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Asif Zardari is Elected President of Pakistan

Posted on September 6, 2008
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Asif Ali Zardari becomes the President of Pakistan today after winning the presidential election. He secured 479 votes out of 702. His opponents, Retired Chief Justice Saeed-uz-Zaman Siddiqui received 153 elctoral votes and Senator Mushahid Hussein received 43. Asif’s victory in three provinces is overwhelming, especially in Sindh where his opposing candidates couldn’t get a single vote. Only in Punjab Assembly Saeed-uz-Zaman Siddiqi is able to get more votes than Asif.

The vote by the two houses of parliament and four provincial assemblies forms the 1,170-member, but 702-vote, electoral college. According to a Dawn update:

‘Asif Ali Zardari secured 281 votes out of the 426 valid votes polled in the parliament,’ chief election commissioner Qazi Mohammad Farooq said. He has secured 458 out of 702 electoral college votes, according to partial Election Commission results.






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Asif Zardari is the 13th President of Pakistan. The ones who have been President before him include: Iskandar Mirza, Ayub Khan, Yahya Khan, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Fazal Ilahi Chaudhry, Zia-ul-Haq, Ghulam Ishaq Khan, Waseem Sajjad, Farooq Laghari, Waseem Sajjad, Rafiq Tarar and Pervaiz Musharraf. Waseem Sajjad has twice been the President of Pakistan.

122 Comments on “Asif Zardari is Elected President of Pakistan”

  1. Saad says:
    September 6th, 2008 8:50 am

    So our ‘democratically’ elected president will rob us of our remaining resources. Congrats Pakistanis!

  2. meengla says:
    September 6th, 2008 8:59 am

    Congrats to Pakistani nation! Another major step toward the transition to full democracy.

  3. DaPakiGuy says:
    September 6th, 2008 9:40 am

    Lo bhai jo log bach gaye thay wo ab mar jayengy

  4. September 6th, 2008 10:37 am

    @meengla Democracy only works in those countries where literacy rate is more than 70%.

  5. BUNTY says:
    September 6th, 2008 10:39 am

    GREAT!

    Now the criteria/ moral bar for being the President of Pakistan has been set at an all time low. Any future Presidential candidate will just have to compare himself (or herself) with Zardari and turn out to be an angel to be elected.

    Thank you Pakistan for electing Zardari as the President because now I can convincingly tell my grand children at a ripe old age of 90 years, ”God Forbid! If we have another President of Pakistan like Zardari!”

    Let the infant political system work for a while to get the political garbage out of the system to hopefully produce better leaders in the future.

    You are are next Nawaz Sharif!!

  6. AHsn says:
    September 6th, 2008 10:54 am
  7. Arslan says:
    September 6th, 2008 10:55 am

    Correction : Zardari is the 14th President Of Pakistan.

  8. BUNTY says:
    September 6th, 2008 11:03 am

    Forgot to ADD!

    Hey Adil, please now change the lyrics of that favorite song of yours that you like quoting at many a places including this blog to the following since PPP government is now completely in charge.

    HUM LOOTAY GAIN!
    HUM LOOTAY GAIN!
    LAZIM HAI HUM PAY KAY LOOTAY GAIN!
    HUM LOOTAY GAIN!

  9. Harris Siddiqui says:
    September 6th, 2008 11:13 am

    This is a sad day in the political history of Pakistan. I predict a period of political and economic instability that will shake the foundations of Pakistan.

    The sad part is that most of his corruption will go on without any accountability at all and when he leaves, the executive immunity will save him.

    His election is an evidence that democracy can not work in Pakistan in its current form. In a true democracy, this man would have spent most of his remaining life in jail, not at the top of the power chain and his family would have been out forever.

    Let’s see how long does it take for the Pakistani population to ask the COAS why is he letting all this happen? If history is any measure, not long.

  10. meengla says:
    September 6th, 2008 11:16 am

    Democracy only works in ‘literate’ populace? Perhaps. But dictatorship works no where!
    Grow up guys, grow up finally. The people have spoken and they need to be heard and respected for their opinion.

  11. Ghaus Elahi says:
    September 6th, 2008 11:27 am

    The representatives who people voted for have overwhelmingly voted for him as President. You may not like the choice, but if you don

  12. Aamir Ali says:
    September 6th, 2008 11:57 am

    This election is a joke on the Pakistani people by the people of Pakistan. They used to call Zardari a crook, now they have elected Zardari as President.

    This is proof that democracy does not work in Pakistan due to the foolish and emotional masses.

  13. Raza says:
    September 6th, 2008 12:06 pm

    Let the looting begin!

  14. Rizwan says:
    September 6th, 2008 12:10 pm

    As a nation we must stand behind our new president Asif Ali Zardari and we must give him the opertunity to prove himself. No matter what party we are belong to. For the interest of Pakistan we must unite. No more dirty politics and revanges. Pakistan first.

  15. Rizwan says:
    September 6th, 2008 12:26 pm

    How can people dance and show happiness ? They should support Asif Ali Zardari with questions of future. Attaa , Electricity , terrorism , economy should show on the faces of supporters.

  16. JK says:
    September 6th, 2008 12:55 pm

    meengla > I’m not a supporter of a dictatorship but your comment is inaccurate. Dictatorship has been working well in many areas since the dawn of mankind. Society works in phases. First there is anarchy, then someone takes control with dictatorship, then people get educated and replace it with democracy.

    England, China, Jordon, Egypt, Persia, India etc etc were all successful dictatorships at one time or another.

    But seriously though, dictatorship is not the problem. The problem is TYRANTS taking up power. If a benevolent and fair dictator is in power then the people are better off. If a tyrant becomes a dictator then things are BAD.

    Same in democracy. A democratically elected tyrant can destroy the democracy. Did the people vote for him? No.

  17. faraz says:
    September 6th, 2008 1:23 pm

    I think CIA plan is working for Pakistan. CIA threw Musharaf out as he resisted control of ISI by CIA.

    It is CIA who finance media outlets like GEO against Musharaf. Zardari will be 10x loyal to USA as Musharaf was.

    Next step? Total control of ISI and full freedom of operation in Waziristan. Then may be control of nukes.

  18. Hilal says:
    September 6th, 2008 1:27 pm

    Today Mr Asif Ali Zardari has been elected as the new President of Pakistan – which will go down in history as the DARKEST DAY of Pakistan.

    We are now officially a CORRUPT NATION, as the most corrupt person has been officially declared the President of Pakistan!!!

  19. B Mahmood says:
    September 6th, 2008 1:57 pm

    an extremely dark day in Pakistani history. I am considering giving up my Pakistani nationality.

  20. Nihari says:
    September 6th, 2008 2:08 pm

    dekha musharraf kay janay ki dair thi, jannat kay farishtay presidency pay utar aaye.

  21. BUNTY says:
    September 6th, 2008 2:20 pm

    Hey Guys, Lighten Up!

    The BAD NEWS is that Zardari is President of Pakistan

    The GOOD NEWS is that hopefully this is the worst democracy can deliver and now anything and everything that goes wrong….PPP will be blamed! Lets start with the brazen recent attack of ISAF on innocent civilians at Angoor Adda!

    We have to start at the very bottom of the pile where its smelly, ugly and utterly unbearable, but let the infant crawl only to learn at his own pace

    Give democracy a chance folks, with a few election cycles the garbage of today will really get what it deserves. Give these so called elected custodians a few months before they will start swallowing nuts and bolts and peeing blood!

  22. Sherbano says:
    September 6th, 2008 2:57 pm

    Very Well said, Bunty!
    (I wish for our folks to stop spewing predictions. When it comes to politics we have no shortage of self proclaimed prophets of doom).

    >>We have to start at the very bottom of the pile where its smelly, ugly and utterly unbearable, but let the infant crawl only to learn at his own pace

    Give democracy a chance folks, with a few election cycles the garbage of today will really get what it deserves. Give these so called elected custodians a few months before they will start swallowing nuts and bolts and peeing blood!<<

  23. Ahmad says:
    September 6th, 2008 3:04 pm
  24. Aamir Ali says:
    September 6th, 2008 3:09 pm

    what the hell were we doing between 1988 and 1999 that we are now giving yet another chance for “democracy” and to the same thieves, liars, slackers and morons that ruled during that decade?

  25. whole LOTA love says:
    September 6th, 2008 3:10 pm

    draconian smile!

  26. meengla says:
    September 6th, 2008 3:44 pm

    It is one thing to blame Zardari for his corruption but it is entirely inexusable to hit at the very concept of democracy in Pakistan.

    That the 90s was a bad time has a lot to do with the role of the ‘Agencies’ starting right from the ’88 elections. Please look up what people like Hamid Gul now confesses to, to better understand what happened then and why.

    Democracy is simply a code of conduct where people, regardless of however ‘illiterate’, choose who should solve their problems. Over time, bad democracies can become good democracies. People can’t be fooled all the time.
    As to someone who is trying to tell me below that autocratic systems have ‘worked’ in human history, I would like to say that merely ‘worked’ would need clarification wrt their efficacy and endurance. In Pakistan too, Ayub’s era ‘worked’ in economic matters but, by 1969, seeds of E. Pakistan’s secession were firmly established. Yes, some achievement. Contrast that with most stable and prosperous countries of the world where democracy has delivered. Even in India, with less than the magical ’70%’ literacy rate democracy has provided a level of stability which could not have been possible with an autocratic system.

    President Zardari is people’s choice. If he does not solve their problems then he can be kicked out in 5 years. But if a military ruler does not solve Pakistan’s problem then often only divine interventions in the form of ‘Mango Crates’ can save people.

  27. Aqil Sajjad says:
    September 6th, 2008 4:05 pm

    Tamam PPP supporters ko jashn-e-zardari mubarik

    no independent judiciary, no accountability and no checks and balances
    percentage zindabad

  28. atif says:
    September 6th, 2008 4:07 pm

    Pakistani voters should’ve written letters, emails or in some way contacted their representatives and suggested who to vote for. Having elected them doesn’t end the voters’ say in the state affairs in a democratic system.
    I don’t believe that the majority of pakistanis wanted zardari to be their president. They just don’t understand their rights.
    I still blame Musharraf for letting Zardari and al-qaeda into the country.

  29. Aqil Sajjad says:
    September 6th, 2008 4:20 pm

    tamam Mush supporters ko Dogar court aur NRO mubarik

    Saving Mush’s back side was so important that even the complete destruction of the judiciary was worth it.

    Enjoy.

  30. Shumaila says:
    September 6th, 2008 4:38 pm

    Love him or hate him, Zardari is the “ELECTED” president of the country. He did not come into power through martial law, he has people’s votes behind him.

    Pakistan Zindabad!

  31. Salman says:
    September 6th, 2008 5:07 pm

    meengla writes:

    “President Zardari is people

  32. Anwar says:
    September 6th, 2008 5:21 pm

    Pity the nation…

  33. meengla says:
    September 6th, 2008 6:05 pm

    Nope. Despite some potential ‘horse trading’ by both PMLN and PPP, Zardari was elected by people’s representatives. Learn to live with THAT at least–it may do your health some good not to have your stomach in a knot.
    By the way, one of the main reasons Zardari got so many votes was because his being the president would be the best insurance against a premature dissolution of the new parliament. These MNAs, MPAs, and Senators know where to put their money. No blaming them.

    Kick him out in 5 years if you hate him so much. But you really cannot take away his legitimacy as the president. And try to understand that without democracy there is no way out for Pakistan and that nation’s leaders mirror its populace.

  34. Salman says:
    September 6th, 2008 6:36 pm

    Mangeela,

    Please do not worry about my health or tummy being in knots. I am fine and dandy living here in the West. It is the people of Pakistan that wills suffer.

    Let me share with you what the NY Times wrote recently:

    “Two recent decisions by Mr. Zardari showed a disregard for Pakistan

  35. Waqas Chaudhary says:
    September 6th, 2008 6:37 pm

    its truly a sad day :(

  36. meengla says:
    September 6th, 2008 6:52 pm

    @Salman,
    Thank you for adding to the long list of accusations against Zardari. I think the political science etc departments of various universities of Pakistan should start offering doctorate degrees on dissertations based on Zardari’s misdeeds. That should help in producing so many needed PhDs in Pakistan.
    I am going to wait and see how Zardari ‘delivers’. I am not going to pay too much attention to the all-of-the-suddent glut of articles about Zardari in WSJ or NYT. I am going to give him and his party a chance especially considering that despite the 11-year lynching campaign involving millions of dollars he has yet to be actually convicted. I am going to take into account the fact that those who have put cases against him have themselves admitted to the ‘political nature’ of those cases. And I am also going to keep reminding myself that Zardari is not the only corrupt one in the Land of the Pure and yet he is singled out to be the most and only corrupt.
    Let me see how this govt. functions. I promise I will change my opinion about him if I think that would be right.

    PS. Glad you are in good health.

  37. Asim Kaleem says:
    September 6th, 2008 7:04 pm

    I dont know that what wrong we have done for that we the Paksitanis are going to pay this price and after Musharraf now Zardari, indeed very sad. How much people say that he is now a noble person but we know about his past. And we dot want a person like him. Today I am really ashamed of being called as a Pakistani. I m indeed really distressed and dejected. Shame to all who elected this guy to such a highly sophisticated post.

  38. Abdul Hai says:
    September 6th, 2008 7:11 pm

    I hate Mr. Zardari and his 10 percent deals. However, I am happy he is elected. The people of Pakistan will throw him out if he does not perform. Do not under estimate the intelligence of Pakistanis. The only thing you have to fear is that military dictators do not come back in th name of saving the country. Good leaders are not developed in the vacuum of dictatorship. It is a matter of time good leaders will replace Mr. 10 percent and amir -e- momineen.

  39. Salman says:
    September 6th, 2008 7:22 pm

    @ meengla,

    Just to be fair to Zardari, can you please share with us all his good qualities? You say what I and others share about him as accusations. I would sincerely like to read something good about the man, that now has become the president of Pakistan. Are you up the challenge?

    p.s. thank you for your well wishes for my health. I pray that you are well and enjoying this blessed month of Ramadan

  40. Aamir Ali says:
    September 6th, 2008 7:24 pm

    Excuse me, but Zardari has become President due to the votes of “intelligent” Pakistanis for his party, the PPP in February. It is not because of NRO.

  41. Hilal says:
    September 6th, 2008 7:36 pm

    I will accept Zardari as President of Pakistan if he can give full account of his finances. From where did he get all this money?
    And also how he bought all the properties in foreign countries?
    I also want to let him know that whatever he is today it is only due his wife. Everyone gave PPP the Sympathy vote. Next election he will be kicked out BUT in the mean time he will
    devour and sell out what is left of Pakistan. Shame on him.

  42. Manthar says:
    September 6th, 2008 7:45 pm

    Zardari MUST give a full accounting of his $400 million dollar fortune. Where does an uneducated Pakistani get this kind of wealth??? Then, and only then, will I respect him enough to follow his leadership.

    Everyone knows he STOLE this money. But, if he did not, let him clear the air with a complete detailed accounting of each dollar.

  43. Cameo says:
    September 6th, 2008 8:13 pm

    According to most people here Mr Zardari is the most corrupt person in the world, but for me the most corrupt politician in the world is better then a military general

    In a country where people have gotten away with breaking the constitution, and have gone as far as hanging democratically elected prime Minster of the country without any accountability. Here is a person who has spent 10 years in prison with out a single case being proved against him

    If we believe in democracy then we should all hold our horses and give the guy a chance ….

  44. September 6th, 2008 8:36 pm

    That Zardari became president of Pakistan with an overwhelming majority is unfortunate. Like people, like leaders.

  45. meengla says:
    September 6th, 2008 9:24 pm

    @Salman,
    I am not here to give ‘good qualities’ of Zardari. I am defending his right to be the president of Pakistan due to his role as the leader of the largest and only truly national party of Pakistan. I am voicing against the prejudice of guilty before proven guilty. It is upto the detractors of Zardari to outline Zardari against the other ‘honest’ politicians of Pakistan.
    I am going to judge Zardari based on his performance in future. That he may have received ‘kickbacks’ in financial deal in past is possible but I want the other billionaires since 1977 to be subjected to the same scrutiny, attention, trials that Zardari has been through. Millions have been spent by the State of Pakistan under both Nawaz Sharif and Musharraf to incriminate Zardari. I want a fraction of that amount to be spent against the Establishment’s childs as well.
    Justice, if selective, whether in media or in courtrooms, is injustice. Let other ‘files’ be opened including those who are trying to look ‘principled’ but who themselves have running court cases against them. Let those beneficiaries of the NRO who joined Musharraf be under scrutiny as well. Why be selective when discussing the NRO?!

    Why should Zardari be the only reviled and accused criminal? Are we sure that since 1977 others have been angels? How many of them have faced prison for 11 years? How many of them (except Jawed Hashmi and Y.R. Gillani) suffered jail for so long without incrimination like Zardari?

  46. Mustafa says:
    September 6th, 2008 9:45 pm

    oh guys, just give him and his party some time, inshaALLAH this will be the last CHANCE for them in Pakistan’s Politics, and i am sure this will happen, we wouldn’t have to even wait for 5 years :)

  47. Salman Pindi Wala says:
    September 6th, 2008 10:35 pm

    Re: last CHANCE for them in Pakistan

  48. bezar says:
    September 6th, 2008 11:35 pm

    Why should Zardari be the only reviled and accused criminal?

    Meenglaji;
    The others were just thieves. This man has the gall of doing:
    chori aur seena zori
    And for a leader in civilized democracy the semblance of honesty is a pre-requisite.

  49. hopeless optimist says:
    September 6th, 2008 11:45 pm

    It is a matter of time good leaders will replace Mr. 10 percent and amir -e- momineen.

    Janab Hai Sahib;
    The ground reality is that the progeny of the
    Bhuttos , Sharifs and similar tribes are already in line in the assemlies and parliment for their share of the carrion.
    You think anything will be leftover after they are done?

  50. ShahidnUSA says:
    September 7th, 2008 12:02 am

    Let me be the optimistic and get something positive out of these
    negative sentiments.

    If the iron cuts the iron
    Then an allegedly criminal would be the best to deal with the “criminals”.
    You cannot fool Mr Zardari.
    He is quite capable of fooling others.
    So I am happy.

  51. Ghulam Ali says:
    September 7th, 2008 12:25 am

    Lets hope things will cool down and Pakistanis can get on with life and thsi soap opera will now end. Please.

  52. Mustafa says:
    September 7th, 2008 12:51 am

    @ShahidnUSA, height of Optimism :P

  53. Mustafa says:
    September 7th, 2008 1:50 am

    DEMOCRACY IS THE BEST REVENGE.

    I may not like him but I know that he is elected. Unlike Musharraf he came in not on the barrel of a gun but through an electoral process. A good day for Pakistan.

  54. auk says:
    September 7th, 2008 2:27 am

    Cowasjie’s “Bully-boys, they say, are cowards” in today’s Dawn.

    http://tinyurl.com/6fzs5m

  55. Isloo says:
    September 7th, 2008 2:38 am

    You don’t mess with Zardari (2008).

  56. Jalal HB says:
    September 7th, 2008 2:48 am

    Wel finally the curtain is raised over all ambiguties – this is democracy – he has won with a majority no matter what people opine about him.

    So let the democracy flourish in the country

  57. D_a_n says:
    September 7th, 2008 3:21 am

    Ah Yes….

    so it is in Mr. Zaradari’s capable hands we find ourselves in :)

    Happy days are here again….

    I should think that you wont be able to buy or sell a goat in a remote village in Pakistan without a tap on your shoulder asking you to cough up 10% of the transaction…..

  58. D_a_n says:
    September 7th, 2008 3:33 am

    @ Meengla…

    wow…rather vocal and forceful job of defending Mr. Zaradri here I must say…..the passion is visible…

    However, a question if I may…in light of the swiss government dropping (the last?) of the money laundering cases againt Zardari…He is set to receive an amout of USD 60 Million that will be ‘unfrozen’….I doubt that he made that type of money working overtime at the firm or by a brilliant dot com start up that he worked on from prison or when he was a federal minister….

    you say that he hasnt been convicted by a court of law…true…but then you think the courts…our courts never falter and are infallible…so I would like to correct that assumption…

    additionally…leaving everything else aside…any theories on how he came by that cool 60 million? …cant wait to hear you defend that one …

  59. Umar Shah says:
    September 7th, 2008 4:08 am

    Ai meray piyaray watan…

    kar raha tha ghum-i-jahaan ka hisaab
    aaj tum yaad bey hisaab aaye (-faiz)

    As a nation we seem to fall into one abyss after another. God save Pakistan and the dreams of our founding fathers.

  60. Harris Siddiqui says:
    September 7th, 2008 5:19 am

    You guys are living in fool’s paradise if you think that the future of democracy is bright in Pakistan. If you think that another “chance” for these people will somehow change Pakistan, your hopes are akin to hoping that rotten eggs can be made edible if you beat them enough.

    You can romanticize the virtues of democracy all you want, and it does make for a good punch line but keep this is mind, people are more than capable of making wrong decisions collectively!!! Mark my words, I will be writing them again on this very forum when this joke of a democracy fails yet again in Pakistan and you see yourselves in a never ending cycle.

    Today I am ashamed to be a Pakistani. If one wants to see how corrupt and unethical a nation we are, look no further than our honorable President or the sheep herd we have elected as our parliamentarians.

  61. September 7th, 2008 5:38 am

    I’m Indian and I’m hoping democracy in Pakistan will lead to better relations between India and Pakistan. Unfortunately, democracy doesn’t mean much in our sub continent, and I’ve seen fundamentalism get ugly despite of India’s secular stance. I think it’ll take more than mere politicians to bring about a change.

    I run a podcast site where I have an excerpt shared by Farzana Versey from her book, A Journey Interrupted- Being Indian in Pakistan. You might find it interesting:
    http://www.ideajugglers.com

    Would you agree with the views?

  62. Aqil Sajjad says:
    September 7th, 2008 6:19 am

    Some Zardari apologists regularly ask why Zardari is singled out etc etc.

    One can turn around and ask them why they used to single out Mush as a violator of the constitution when the constitution also says that a theif will not be eligible to contest elections. If you want to apply the constitution (and that should indeed be done), then why is Zardari given a special exemption?

    The claims that Zardari never got convicted etc are nonsense considering that the man is in power and can restore the judges and face his corruption cases in an independent judiciary instead of relying on the NRO. If he is innocent and the corruption charges are bogus, then he should not have any trouble getting his cases squashed by an independent judiciary. Just because a crook has a vote bank does not mean he should be above the law.

    As for other people with ill-gotten wealth, have them tried for corruption by an independent judiciary too, instead of demanding that Zardari be spared because there are also other thieves around. That PPP apologists regularly insist on the latter instead of working for independent institutions and the rule of law where all crooks can be held accountable shows their moral bankrupcy.

  63. Tina says:
    September 7th, 2008 6:50 am

    Gahhhhhh….that grin in the top picture…..Mr. 10%’s dreams all coming true for him.

    I have no words to express myself; I’m sure my comment would be deleted if I did. This is so many steps backwards for Pakistan and the people of Pakistan.

    God bless all of you.

  64. Basheer says:
    September 7th, 2008 7:10 am

    I think all the people who think that Zardari should not be President should form a party and then vote their man into power. SInce you all think that this is what majority of Pakistanis want, it should be easy.

    No?

  65. BUNTY says:
    September 7th, 2008 7:40 am

    Check out the Pakistani political mag NEWSLINE of this month with its article ”ZARDARI IN BLUNDERLAND!”

  66. Kamran says:
    September 7th, 2008 9:17 am

    Here is my theory of the political landscape at the moment. Zardari and Nawaz Shareef use the independent judiciary movement to throw Musharraf out. Zardari already has plans not to bring it back, because of all his cases. Nawaz Shareef also knows about this that is why he take it as a primary agenda. But wait, this plan is made together between them. They show cooperation between themselves and people of Pakistan elect both of them, so that they can form a collation.

    After PPP is elected, they use this agenda to distance themselves. Nawaz now sits in the opposition and waits for his time. Now once people will get tired and frustated with PPP, they will vote for Nawaz, and he will come back. Meanwhile Zardari would have looted the nation for these years, and will hand over the baton to Nawaz, who will continue looting, and this process will go on, until another martial law.

    1990s anyone?

  67. azhar aslam says:
    September 7th, 2008 9:34 am

    any one, please tell what should we do. if we are all sick of this system and want a change will that happen just by writing here. any ideas? can’t we have a professional middle class led political party in Pakistan? which is country based not city based.

  68. Syed Asim Hussain says:
    September 7th, 2008 9:37 am

    I hope we can now stop talking just about this and move on to more important things. With the country facing so many problems lets start solving them please.

  69. azhar aslam says:
    September 7th, 2008 9:37 am

    what is the professional diaspora going to do? be like naseem ashraf?

    don’t you have a role to play?

    are we going to leave Pakistan and Pakistanis to their fate ?

  70. September 7th, 2008 9:41 am

    This is what I think about Pakistan. I do not know who uttered this Sheir but it reads as follows:

    Har shaakh pay uloo baitha hai
    Anjaam e gulistan kia ho ga.

    Ahmed Mahmood

  71. kamran says:
    September 7th, 2008 9:42 am

    @Azhar

    The problem is that we can’t do a lot. The infrastructure that we have is based on a very corrupt foundation, due to which our thinking has also been corrupted. It may sound very negative, but we actually need a dictator (with a very strong moral/ethic code) to spank us and make us a better human being.

  72. AHsn says:
    September 7th, 2008 10:23 am

    Dear Kamran,

    You have traced the political happenings for the coming years in Pakistan. I do agree with this analysis but I will add another possibility as well. For the time being Sharif will be the leader of the opposition party but he may not get a chance to loot.

    The other scenario may be the following:

    The C.J. Iftikhar Cahudry has not been reinstalled and will not be in any future. The NRO will not be revoked. Mr. Zardari will remain the President of Pakistan for five years. The retired Chief Justice Saeed-uz-Zaman Siddiqui, another obedient judge of Sharif Brothers has lost his chances to the presidency. In this case the PPP government may very easily open the old corruption cases against the two brothers. Both of them will be running to Saudi Arabia or to some other safe heaven to escape a Pakistani Prison.

    Meanwhile Zardari will prepare the ground for his kith and kin. He has already started showing his daughters as left and right arms. But he is simply using them as symbols of Bhutto Family (Benazir). His real aim is to install his son (Zardari) on the throne. Mr. Z. A. Butto tried and failed. Now Mr. A. A. Zardari is trying and I think he will he succeed. Long live Pakistan.

    AHsn

  73. Mike says:
    September 7th, 2008 11:19 am

    Does it make much difference who is the

  74. Rizwan says:
    September 7th, 2008 11:47 am

    For the Interest of Pakistan
    President Asif Ali Zardari should disclose all of his assets?
    Please wait and see before we do negative criticism on President and this is coming from 100% supporter of Musharraf. As Musharraf said Pakistan First so for Pakistan give him a chance to prove himself.

  75. Abrar Ali Syed says:
    September 7th, 2008 1:48 pm

    A sad and dark day in our History

    Today is the darkest and saddest day in the history of Pakistan. Today September 6, 2008, the Pakistan defense day when our nation was attacked by India and thousands sacrificed their lives defending the country. Alas On this sacred day Zardari becomes the president of Pakistan. Zardari who does not need any introduction is one of the most corrupt and crook politician of our time, the man who is also accused of murdering Murtaza Bhotto. Is this day is as sad and dark as, when military dictators like Ayub Khan, Zia ul Haq, Pervez Mushraf illegally and unconstitutionally stole the power from the democratically elected governments and impose marshal law i.e. law of jungle on the people of Pakistan. Yes it is and also it is as sad as when so call democratically elected corrupt and incompetent politicians like Nawaz Sharif and Banazeer Bhotto came in to power. We all remember the sad day when Prime Minister Nawas Sharif sends his goons to attack the Supreme Court and destroy the respect and supremacy of the Judiciary. We also remember when Prime Minister Banazeer Bhotto appointed her husband Zardari who got the title of Mr. Ten percent, as minister of investment. Now this flawed character Asif Zardari being all in all of a nation of 170 millions people is as sad, dark and painful day in Pakistan’s history as East Pakistan become Bagladash because of lack of real democracy and ill policies of the military dictators. There is a God after all and I hope and pray that this is the beginning of the end of the miseries of the People of Pakistan.

  76. DB9 says:
    September 7th, 2008 2:41 pm

    Wow! Mr. 10% is finally Mr.100% –

    From a Dictator to a Dakoo

    Simply Amazing…

  77. aydee says:
    September 7th, 2008 4:58 pm

    DEMOCRACY IS THE BEST REVENGE!!

    but what did we “awaam” do?

  78. Salman says:
    September 7th, 2008 5:03 pm

    @ aydee,

    They got duped by gang of looters.

    Yeah right, “democracy is the best revenge”! What a joke!

  79. Salman says:
    September 7th, 2008 5:13 pm

    @ meengla,

    I agree these corrupt Pakistani leaders should setup a fund for children in Pakistan. Let Zardari be the first to donate $1 Billion into this fund. Let Zardari be the first to set this example for all the scoundrels that have looted Pakistan. He is after all the president!

    Do not hold your breath though, Zardari will be last to help anyone, other than himself.

  80. adnan says:
    September 7th, 2008 9:01 pm

    Syed Saleem Shahzad is Asia Times Online’s

    “With his fingers firmly on the levers of power, and with strong American backing, Zardari will lead Pakistan into a new and potentially extremely bloody chapter of which the US special forces’ raids into the country are just the beginning. “

  81. meengla says:
    September 7th, 2008 11:31 pm

    1) I support Zardari’s right to be the president of Pakistan because he is reflected by the elected respresentatives from all the 4 provinces of Pakistan. To deny him legitimacy would only expose the dictatorial mindset of the so-called educated elites of Pakistan.
    2) So Zardari is afraid of the NRO because that might ‘nab’ him now?! Pretty simplistic and un-analytic ‘argument’. Didn’t the State of Pakistan spend millions (of $$–not Rupees) between 1996-2004 to convict him? What could the restoration of IMC do now (under a friendly regime) which could not be done before (under VERY hostile regimes)?
    3) Again, the principle is ‘innocent until proven guilty’. You have a good case against Zardari? Then why couldn’t the millions helped your case then.
    4) At the risk of a seeming contradiction, I will say this now: I, like Dawn.com’s Irfan Hussain (Mazdak) think that Zardari took ‘kickbacks’ in financial deals. Yes, corruption. But nothing on the scale reported and propagated. Even the $60 million -may- be actually $2.8 million.
    5) The crimes of generals who dismembered the country, gave it the Kalashnikov and Heroin Culture and, now, life-threatening terrorism are far greater than the millions which may have been stolen by Zardari. Why NOT someone hold them accountable too?
    6) And what about those Muslim Leaguis, who were mediocre businessmen in 1977, who are empires in their own rights? ANY discussion of that ever possible?
    7) Both #5, #6 lead to: Selective ‘justice’ is injustice. Let there be across the board accountability of all. Then we will have a deal. Until then, however you may shout, I am not going to budge an inch.
    8) Finally, I am practical enough to know that it is only the political class of Pakistan, however undeveloped, corrupt, or feudal, which is going to have the right to rule Pakistan. Inherently, the political class will correct itself. The generals are not accountable and they cannot, beyond a few years of damage control, stabilize Paksitan. But, as I see it, we have an Amir ul Mominoon representative of Punjab or the Don of Karachi or the Pakhtoonkwa nationalists. I won’t even speak of the mullahs (including the untained Maulana Imran Khan). Compared to them, the Pakistan Peoples Party gives the best hope currently of uniting Pakistanis from all parts of Pakistan.

  82. Haris Rana says:
    September 8th, 2008 12:59 am

    “Best of Luck Pakistan”!!!
    Zardari The President of Pakistan…!
    Allah May have mercy of this nation of poors…

  83. D_a_n says:
    September 8th, 2008 1:46 am

    @ Meengla….

    in your last post you made no attempt to even explain the 60 Million USD that is being released to him…but instead came up with the whopper that it maybe as little as a paltry 2.8 Million USD….

    Just how in the world did you come up with that figure?… me thinks that just because you wish something were so…doesnt make it so….you believe that this man is the messiah…? well absolultely nothing in his oast sugguests that…absolutely nothing…and you cant make anything up….you would make a lot of efforts to find a man of better character to be the family driver simply because you will be entrusting your car to him….and yet you hold a president of our sorry country to such low standards….

  84. Tahir says:
    September 8th, 2008 2:29 am

    Jaisai Nation ………….
    Waisa Hukmran……..
    Zardari is a out put of our Nations………
    Why we blame Zardari that Wo Kaisa ha………
    We blame ourself Ham Kaisa hain.?????????????
    Enjoy the Zardari Presidency…….Best of Luck my Nation…I Lv u……..

  85. Desi says:
    September 8th, 2008 6:46 am
  86. Shahid says:
    September 8th, 2008 7:56 am

    Why doesnt he bring back the judges now. All past year ppp and pml have blasted our ears that “judges bahal karo jadges bahal karo”.

    What a blundar. Pakistan is gone now with this dude in the seat. Bombs are still exploding and yesterday another bomb exploded. Nothing will change but actually it will get more worse and worse. America is bomb pakistan border now.

    Some people here are saying give him a chance. Jub sari zindgi yeh insan theek nahin howa so what makes you guys think he will suddenly over night become morally good person just for the sake of pakistan. He was a corrupt guy from the begining.

    I am extreamly sad sad sad and this situation!

  87. awahid says:
    September 8th, 2008 11:38 am

    I can only say “God Bless Pakistan”

  88. lida says:
    September 8th, 2008 12:03 pm

    I simply don’t understand people who make blank statements like I love Pakistan.
    We all know you do and are concerned about Pakistan. Thats why we are on this blog. We all love Pakistan!!! and please spare us your statements and make intelligent coments.

    But unfortunately people that are the most concerned about Pakistan have left the country and the uneducated Masses have elected Mr Zardari Bhutto.

    Someone tell me why is Zardari Qualified to be a president????

    Who is he besides being a widower of a “unqualified hyped daughter” of a good ex-prime Minister ??and why isn’t my Dhohbi Sheeda more qualified than Zardari to be a president??

  89. Mariam says:
    September 8th, 2008 12:11 pm

    It is apparent that most people are angry that the fate of our Country now lies in the notorious hands of a man commonly known as “Mr. 10%”.
    By no standards nor any qualifications can it be legitimate that he should have such a high post in the Country. Read:
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0CE5D91F30F93AA35752C0A96E958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

    All that one can do for now is hope that the tide will change .. soon and for the better.

  90. September 8th, 2008 1:09 pm

    Why do people say give Zardari another chance? Why not give a chance to someone who’s not corrupt at all? like Air Marshal Asghar Khan, or Dr. Qadeer Khan, or Mr. Abdul Sattar Edhi ?

  91. fatima says:
    September 8th, 2008 1:11 pm

    i dont know y
    our nation forget abt the past
    and elect the old party again with a gud future hope
    i think its time our nation realize
    jo party aik dafa govt main akar kuch nahi kar sakty woh das dafa bhi aye to kuch nahi kar sakey gi
    apney bank balances bananey k ilawa

    GOD bless pakistan
    i simply have no hope from our new president
    but he played well
    from jail to president house

  92. naseer says:
    September 8th, 2008 2:58 pm

    Lets hope that Pakistan is able to face all the challanges now.
    Many politicians who were once against hime proposed his name and seconded it.
    Interesting to see what made them changes their mind..

  93. BUNTY says:
    September 9th, 2008 12:18 am

    Adil, please do put on here if possible the video from various news channels showing the supposedly ”law-makers” of NWFP (including the Chief Minister who is Hoti’s son) & Baluchistan Provincial assemblies out rightly showing their ballot slips to the PPP members thereby confirming their ”loyalty” to have voted for Zardari. So much for the sanctity of the vote and laws governing the secrecy of the voting process. Simply disgusting, disturbing and befitting the penny personalities of these so called elected lawmakers of these two assemblies!

    Where is the much touted independent election commission and/ or law-makers now?

  94. Aurangzeb says:
    September 9th, 2008 8:45 am

    Zardari is teh worst choice we cold have made amongst teh politicians. But that mans he is still better than Musharraf or some other military general.

  95. Yossri says:
    September 9th, 2008 10:34 am

    In the first hundred days in power Premer Yusuf Raza Gilani
    made many lofty promises but kept low on delivery.

    Will the first 100 days of President Zardari be any different? Can one expect any concrete results rather than cosmetic gestures?

    Zardari can list out a 5-point agenda for his first hundred days to indicate that he will have a focussed apporach to offer relief to the toiling masses.

  96. Riaz Haq says:
    September 9th, 2008 11:10 am

    Can Mr. Asif Ali Zardari, 13th president of Pakistan, succeed with this elephant of massive corruption charges in the room, and still help unify Pakistan in its most difficult hour? Can he prove the media pundits and the skeptics wrong? Only time will tell. Let

  97. programmingdrone says:
    September 9th, 2008 6:39 pm

    Great. Just Great.

    Why dont we elect the Devil himself in the next election.

  98. September 10th, 2008 11:42 am

    Kainat ka Malik Almighty Allah Kiya Chahta Hay Hum Nahi Samaj Sakte .Yeh Hamari Azmaish Ho .Hum Hamara AHD , Hamari Be mishal Qurbanio ke baad Allah Ki Taraf SeTohafe May Pakistan Milne Ke Baad ,Bhool Gaye.Aap Ko Maloom Hay Firon Us Ki Hukumat /territory May Larka Paida Hotehi Mar Daita Tha Laikin Kainat Ke Malik Ki Margi Ke Mutabiq Moosa A.S.W. Firon Ke Ghar May Plae Barhe.Sab Kainat Ke Malik per Chor Day . Poore Iman Aur Yakeen Ke Saath Allah Aur Uske Habib Ke Ahkam Per Amal Karye Aur Allah Ki Rassi Ko Majbooti Se Thamay . Zardari Bhai Bohat Taklifo Se Gujre Hay In Ki Family Ne Bhi Bohat Qurbania Dee Hay.InshaAllah Un Ke Hath Se Hi Pakistan Ke Sab Maslay Solve Honge, Insha Allah,Aameen

  99. BUNTY says:
    September 11th, 2008 1:46 am

    What was the need for having Hamid Karzai as the Chief Guest on the swearing-in ceremony at the President House? Hamid Karzai and his Indian-influenced governemt are currently instrumental in creating trouble in Balochistan, theny aid and abet US Forces raid in which innocent civilians and Pakistan soldiers are killed and Hamid Karzai utilizes every opportunity to degrade Pakistan to hide his own Government’s shortcomings and ills.

    And yet our newly elected ”allegedly corrupt” President chooses to smile, rub shoulders and do formal press conferences with such a rascal?

    Abhi Tau Aghaz Hai Faraz, tu rota hai kiya!
    Es dastan e fareb may abhi dekh agay hota hai kiya!

  100. September 11th, 2008 3:51 am

    IF YOU CAN CONVEY ME PRESIDENT ASIF ZARDARI’S WEB SITE ADDRESS ,DIRECT TELEPHONE NUMBER OR HIS CELL NUMBER OR EITHER KINDLY CONVEY HIM MUBARAKBAD WITH ALL MY BEST WISHES AND PRAYERS FOR HIM,HIS LOVABLE KIDS AND FOR THE SECUTITY AND WELBEING OF PAKISTAN AND PAKISTANIS.

  101. September 13th, 2008 3:42 pm

    Shame on us..

  102. Saadia A. Arslanturk says:
    September 23rd, 2008 1:55 am

    Left Pakistan seventeen years ago to attend college in States. I have often wondered if my decision for never returing was right or wrong. Thanks to this latest turmoil, I no longer feel sad about my decision. I would rather die on a foreign soil. I cannot believe this monkey is incharge after all he has done to Pakistan and its poor masses. Pakistanis, how much more he has to con you guys before you wake up? Wake up, He is a petty criminal. What a mess! God bless Jinnah and our other founding fathers. They must be sobbing in their graves. We have ruined their country.

  103. ALAMGIR says:
    September 25th, 2008 1:03 pm

    So, now our new President is flirting in New York with Sarah Palin. I think Sarah Palin must have been quite angry at this male chuvinist behavior from Zardari even if she did not show it there she must have been mad. The video of the meeting is really sad:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GHWa6jqALE

    Zardari then called her “gorgeous” and said: “Now I know why the whole of America is crazy about you.”

    “You are so nice,” Palin said, smiling. “Thank you.”

    A handler from Zardari’s entourage then told the two politicians to keep shaking hands for the cameras.

    “If he’s insisting, I might hug,” Zardari said. Palin smiled politely.

    What must she be thinking about Pakistan and Pakistani men after this!

  104. Yasin says:
    September 25th, 2008 5:29 pm

    Zardari might have thought he was being charming to Sarah Palin but his comments were quite sexist and quite inappropriate.

  105. AZRA says:
    September 27th, 2008 5:04 am

    Zardari’s behavior with Palin was embarrassing.

  106. Udaas says:
    November 28th, 2008 9:08 am

    This is extremely unfotune of my beloved country ‘PAKISTAN’ and country fellow that a covicted criminal has become the president of my mother land. This is a moment to think what is going to happen to our mother land & what are we going to leave for the coming generations. If these same faces from sharif & buhtto families with their same bunch of lootoers will be coming again & again where will Pakistan go. Please I beg humbly to every one wake up & safe your mother land for yourself & for coming generations. Save your identification ‘ Pakistan’ before it will be too late that these enemies of this lovely land eleminate it from the globe.

  107. wsamtio says:
    December 13th, 2008 10:19 am

    AOA
    R/Sir
    As it is fact that the fluctuation of power amend from time to time .This brand of
    Behavior occur in the politics but solitary one way in which we constantly subsist in clout that is human next of kin because they are the power of the any realm. We are the workers of (PPPP) but what kind of behavior treated PPPP Government when it comes in power it has totally forgotten us and work for NON -PPPP workers. From Z.A Bhutto up to present era we and our insisters have always worked for PPPP. In all the elections we have always triumphed our polling station (Shah Punja).if you have not believe on us you can ensure the record of this polling station. The record always demonstrate the data that here always PPPP wins the race in enormous majority .but now PPPP government not paying any kind of attention for our problems such as roads, Gas, electricity, drainage system, and the biggest problem of unemployment ratio. From above mentioned data electricity we have purchased privately and remaining items are always remaining forever. There is nothing any job for us until we pay the money (CM, MNA, MPA) always refused us .if we pay money then jobs are waiting for us otherwise there is nothing any job for us. My father is (Wali Muhammad Samtio) general secretary of PPPP at district khairpur (MIRS) when I say to my father for job in (NHMP) he replies that for us there is nothing any job. I tell you interesting news that is about the previous election the opposite candidates offer my father (5000000) fifty lacs but he refused their offer. For poor this amount is very huge amount to get the jobs for them. In election we use our own machinery not only for our voters but bring other voters from different villages and sir I tell you that my uncles

  108. February 22nd, 2009 6:59 am

    salam first of all i wish to pay salam to my respected beloved president asif zardi .i love so much this person.he was doing a well job marvellous job .pakistan will be become a most popular and beautifull country if zardari standing with his position.

    regards

    adnan khan

  109. Mr. Khan says:
    March 11th, 2009 4:16 pm

    Why was this man elected to office?

    This man is uneducated, forged a fake degree and implemented a law that non educated can hold such a government position to justify his own placement.

    The politics of Pakistan are not a Monarchy, but a Democracy. Why is it that bloodline matters so much to elected someone? The name “Bhutto” has given this man the authority to run. It is absurd. Pakistan is not a “Kingdom” it is the peoples republic. The PPP may be known as the Pakistan Peoples Party, but it is nothing for the people. It is more like a gang.

    In other countries, soldiers are praised and formers soldiers run for office. But in Pakistan, it is another story. You know there is a saying that politicians like to use. We will bleed for Pakistan and risk their lives. However, they are the last on the totem pole to risk their life for their country. Pakistan lost a great man, that truly did FIGHT for his country. That man was Pervaiz Musharaff. The people of Pakistan did not elect this man, it was the government officials that were corrupt themselves. The people of Pakistan all over the world dislike this man in an overwhelming majority.

    You do not have to be educated overseas, England, USA to be an official in Pakistan. Pakistan can creates its own great people to run in their country. True Patriots. Get this man out of office, he does not deserve the noble title of President.

    A disgrace is what this Zardari figure is. Charges dropped against him, they should be reinstated and this man should be tried in a court of law.

  110. Nadaan says:
    March 13th, 2009 12:51 pm

    Assallam u Alayikum !

    Dear Sir ! I wana to Ask you all that china Have NO Democracy in his Country and they Are Growing Very Fast . But Our LOVING RELIGION also NOT ALLOWED THIS . Majority is Athority this statement is Un islamic . in our country PHD holder and Labour Have Equal 1 Vote is this islamic .
    Ye nizaam Kabhi bhi Kamyaab nai ho sakta
    Kia Jannay walay or Na jannay walay Brabar ho saktay hain ?

  111. June 3rd, 2009 10:07 am

    Only thing i would add is
    “As are the people so are the ruler”
    A dead nation like Pakistan deserve this.

  112. saba ali says:
    July 11th, 2009 4:02 am

    Hey y r u so jealous 4rm him…he z our PRESIDENT…nd i love him sooooooooooooooooooo much…dont want to listen anything wrong about him…nd those people who r insluting him try to keep their mouth shut….warna i ll kill thm..!!!!

  113. Ali says:
    July 12th, 2009 8:49 am

    I’m actually surprised there are people here who actually praise this man’s election to the office.

    Come on! He’s a land-lord, a feudal prince who’s supposed to be a democratic leader? A mere crook known by his title of “Mr. 10%” and rightly too. He has hogged millions, billions of dollars of wealth from our poor nation and given absolutely NOTHING in return. Pakistan will rejoice the day he isn’t president….by whatever means he steps down/is forced to ;)

  114. saba ali says:
    July 24th, 2009 12:42 pm

    sir zardari! ur smile iz shoooooooooooooo sweet (kidding)…sir em 16y n i also want to b d part of politics..so hw can i fullfil ma vish plzzzzzzzzzz tel me..!!!!

  115. SABA ALI says:
    July 26th, 2009 10:54 am

    :P HAPPY BIRTHDAY :P
    * SIR *
    ASIF ALI ZARDARI
    MANY HAPPY RETRUNS OF D DAY
    AND GOD BLESS U!!!

  116. saba ali says:
    July 30th, 2009 9:44 am

    mujhe aik bar zardari sir say mila do em big big n big fan of him plz koi milwa daaaaaaaaa kash wo ya forumkhud partay tu kia baat thee..!!

  117. saba ali says:
    October 8th, 2009 2:25 pm

    no u r wrong he iz a land lord so wat GOD made ppl some rich,poor nd normal if hez a rich man so wat d problm wid u ppl…us ki wife ki death hui us na bardasht kia or apnay kidz ko sumhala or wo PAKISTAN ko b taraki ki tarf lay k jaye ga DONT SAY ANYTHING WRONG ABT Him coz hez d PRESIDENT of PAKISTAN nd v have 2 obey his rules as educated nation!!!

  118. Wazir Ali says:
    November 18th, 2009 1:31 am

    I’m an expat (from U.K, 33 years) currently living in and running business in Pakistan since last 12 years. Hence I have seen both side of the coin and lived through 3 governments in Pakistan (Muslim League, Musharraf and now PPP). Has anyone noticed, evrytime PPP comes to power, Pakistan’s corruption rating increases? Does this not say something about the current President and his party? Also how stupid and gullible our Pakistani brethren are when they vote for these people? Zardari is no longer known as Mr. 10%, more likely 110%!

  119. saba ali says:
    November 28th, 2009 10:16 am

    EID MUBARAK 2 U SIR!!: )

  120. Wazir says:
    December 21st, 2009 8:34 am

    Happy NRO to you all. Why don’t you all stand up and be counted and return the money taken from our beloved Pakistan?

  121. February 13th, 2010 1:32 pm

    Worst times have arrived therefore Mr. 10% (ten percent) have become leaders of our beloved country. I will not go into the details how corrupt our leaders are. Along with corruption they don’t care if poor people live or die. Zardari and his government have sold our country for few dollars and now our national interests are also on sale by him. When I think about the situation in Pakistan my heart really goes, looking at the necessity which Pakistani nation does not have, such as Sugar, Wheat flour, Electricity, Gas, jobs, clean drinking water and there is huge list of other necessities which Pakistani nation does not enjoy. However leaders of Pakistan have turned a blind eye to the problems of poor people. I always wonder that why Pakistan does not utilizes 18 billion people and produce various items which can later be sold in international market such as Airplanes, Fast Trains, Weapon technology and various other items. Leaders of Pakistan have pledged to neglect this nation and they are extremely busy filling their own pockets with stolen poor people’s money. I pray to God that the injustice vanishes soon and we see a real and authentic leader who can lead us through prosperity and happiness. I believe the leaders of Pakistan have failed to look after their country and they have failed to show care. We as a nation should unite together and raise against the ignorance we face today. Thank you

  122. arty says:
    October 21st, 2010 9:28 pm

    Its very shameless for us to have a president like him? Not only him, all the politicians of Pakistan are like him. They just want to lotting pakistan and then rest in peace some other part of the world.
    Hum logon ko kab aqal ayee gee? yeah log hamara pecha kab chorain gay?

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