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Raymond Davis Released: This Story Ain’t Over Yet

Posted on March 16, 2011
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The man who (sometimes) calls himself Raymond Davis and has been described various as diplomat, technical adviser, intelligence operative, consulate official, CIA contractor, security consultant and much more, has been released and supposedly is already in London (maybe beyond). His release came as a result of a convoluted, arcane and unusual arrangement of “blood money” being paid to the families of those killed under what may or may not have been entirely voluntary circumstances. By refusing to have the case of Raymond Davis tried in a court of law, the US has decided to have it tried in the court of Pakistani public opinion. That is a case it is sure to lose!

After weeks of diplomatic tension and an obvious desire by both the US and Pakistan government for this story to ‘just go away’ this turn of events – although itself not surprising, since this has been on the cards for weeks – is likely to have many surprising results including those that neither side might wish for. But the one thing is clear: the story will not go away. Not now. And not anytime soon.



The details of his release are as murky as the details of who he really was have been, and will invariably be ‘spun’ so much by all concerned that they will soon become unrecognizable. The babbledom already created around this very strange case also means that anything that anyone wants to claim or believe, they would be able to believe and even defend. The essential details in circulation now, as reported in The Washington Post and much of the Pakistan press, are:

A CIA security contractor who fatally shot two Pakistani men in January was released Wednesday after relatives of the victims received “blood money” as compensation and agreed to pardon him, U.S. officials said. Raymond Davis was released from a Pakistani jail in Lahore after nearly two months in detention and was flown to meet with U.S. officials in Kabul. Cameron Munter, the U.S. ambassador to Pakistan, accompanied Davis on the flight, a U.S. official said. “There has been a plan in the works for the last three weeks,” the official said, adding that U.S. officials had desperately worked to free Davis before a threatened murder trial began. “The concern was that if the actual murder trial started it would become very difficult to extricate him.”

… The U.S. official confirmed that so-called “blood money” had been paid to family members of the shooting victims. In Pakistan, there is a tradition of such payments in return for pardoning the perpetrator of a crime. An official close to the negotiations said three Pakistani families each received between $700,000 and $1 million as part of the deal to free Davis. In addition to the two men killed by Davis, a third Pakistani died after being struck by a vehicle carrying CIA personnel attempting to retrieve Davis after the shooting.

… A second U.S. official said that the U.S. government had yet to make any payments in connection with the case, apparently because the terms and initial payments were handled by Pakistani officials. “To date the U.S. government has not paid anybody anything,” the U.S. official said. “We expect to receive a bill.” The U.S. official said that no other concessions had been made. “There was no quid pro quo between the Pakistani and U.S. government” in connection the attempts to get Davis freed, the U.S. official said.

… A senior U.S. official said Davis was flown to Kabul because the United States wanted him out of Pakistan as soon as possible and “it was the closest place.” The official said Davis was in “good spirits,” but was not immediately asked to speak in detail about the shootings or his time in custody. “We wanted to leave that to the professionals,” the official said.

The story is unlikely to be talked about much in the US. But it is nearly certain that it will haunt the US for a long time to come. In fact, the story is now going to get even more out of control than before.

Given everything else happening in the world (uprisings in the Middle East, Tsunami in Japan, Charlie Sheen) and the US media’s obedient self-censorship and willingness to serve as State Department mouthpiece on this story it is unlikely that they will be raising any tough questions anytime soon (for example, what happened to the car and driver that ran over and killed a third bystander in its botched up attempt to ‘assist’ Mr. Davis?). But that silence and connivance has already caused as much damage as Mr. Davis’s killings. More importantly, it will make the resonance of the anger within Pakistan – and not just amongst ‘religious parties’, but within the entire fabric of society, including the so-called moderates and liberals – that much louder and more piercing for the future of this most messed-up of all messed-up international relationships. That resonance is already all too evident not just on the Pakistani media but on the Pakistani street – including, and maybe especially, on the streets in Mozang where this entire sordid tale began from.

From the very beginning this has been a story where the questions have increased over time and the answers have diminished. The facts were clearest in the minutes and moments right after the event and have been willfully made murkier ever since. The will now become murkier still. And the questions will continue to mount.

Here is an incomplete list of questions still unanswered in the official discourse, you can add your own: Who, really, is Raymond Davis? Why was he where he was and why did he do what he did? Who were the two men who were killed? What were they doing and why that led to the shooting? What about the third person killed by a US Consulate car, and what about that car and its driver? How many other ‘Raymond Davises’ are roaming about in Pakistan right now, and what are they doing? What is the precedent set here for international laws about diplomatic immunity? Is paying ‘blood money’ really a business the US wants to be in? What will the ‘blood money’ precedent mean for the US? What will it mean for Pakistan?

Spin-doctors will claim that the anger over the strange case of Raymond Davis comes from a fringe and fanatical minority. They will be wrong. Yes, the fringe and fanatical minority will use this case for all its worth to make their point. After all, they too are spin-doctors. But for too many Pakistanis – and especially for those who feel most strongly about wanting better US-Pakistan relations -this case, and even more the US reaction (not just from the US government but from the US media and citizenry) to it, has become a poignant symbol of all that is wrong with this relationship. Raymond David clearly killed two men and caused the death of at least two more. But he may also have struck another nail in the coffin of an international relationship which was never normal but which has also never been as disturbingly disturbed as it is today.

At one point in this sordid drama, US Senator John Kerry had offered that if returned Raymond Davis will be tried in a US court of law. Maybe doing exactly that, and making sure that it is a fair and transparent trial is the US’s only hope of salvaging at least some credibility. It would be a good idea to do exactly so. But no one in Pakistan is holding their breath for that to actually happen. And that, itself, is a good indicator of where this relationship stands.

91 comments posted

  1. Zecchetti says:
    March 16th, 2011 9:58 pm

    In my mind there is no need to blame the government any longer for our woes. The whole nation seems easy to buy. Just offer the average Pakistani a U.S. green card and watch him sell his soul, his nation, the ummah, and his aakhirat for this paltry dunya.

    Innaa lillaahi wa innaa ilaihi raaji’oon

  2. Adnan says:
    March 16th, 2011 10:11 pm

    @Zecchetti : Don’t jump into conclusions. The same media also saying that family was pressurized to use the ‘Diyat’ tool and the article published few weeks ago already had exposed the deal between CIA and ISI to settle this case so families can’t be blamed at all. They already had refused to accept any money. I am surprised why are we surprised on his release? It was due anyway.

    The main point is which is more important, Reymod did what so called religious parties could not do; fueling anti-Americanism in Pakistan. The US funded people like Adil et all who have been striving their best to hide the barbaric face of USA got a classic slap by an American to let them know that Americans are not friend of anyone, they are friends of themselves only hence don’t give a damn how secular govt will deal post Davis activities.

    On other hand, Jamat Islami continues its typical and bogus “Dharna” politics which is so obsolete now. I wish these guys had brains. Atleast they should learn a bit from Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt who tackles situation in mature way.

  3. Sam says:
    March 16th, 2011 10:15 pm

    I was really pissed of when i got to know about his release.Damn bloody money and Green cards.I felt that if this issue had seriously become a concern for everyone then why we didnt see the involvement of our government to the best.Despite the fact that so many voices were raised.I heard on the news that there were some involvement of Saudi Arabias kings also.I dont know where that matter was actually heading but i m annoyed by the country and by this nation who unfortunately are the part of us.

  4. HaroON says:
    March 16th, 2011 10:19 pm

    Good post, ATP. This is a sad day for rule of law in Pakistan. Mumtaz Qadri and Raymond Davis – two killers we have sent home in garlands!

  5. Imran says:
    March 16th, 2011 10:21 pm

    Totally agree with your article. The key word here is “Closure” and I am afraid that we don’t have it in this case. Maybe the provision of “blood money” to the victim’s families resulted in sense of justice. But what we really needed here was restorative justice. What happened in Lahore on that fateful day in late January has engulfed all of Pakistan. The cloak and dagger approach in handling this situation has certainly left the human element of this “relationship” in tethers. The fact that the Principals involved worked to maintain the transactional aspects of the relationship at the expense of human ones only speaks to the lack of empathy on their part.

  6. Simon says:
    March 16th, 2011 10:25 pm

    This story is not going away now or in future because until and unless rentier class is thrown lock stock barrel they will continue to sell the nation (basically its people) to whomsoever is the biggest paymaster which currently happens to be US of deep pockets. This was clear from day 1 of this affair, why are you surprise? Welcome to the farce!

  7. Rahman says:
    March 16th, 2011 10:26 pm

    Kiyani and Zardari have sold this country.

    Regime Change in Pakistan.

  8. F K says:
    March 16th, 2011 10:32 pm

    19 relatives of the victims happily agreed to divide $2.34 million of blood money. Blood money (diyya) is acceptable under Islamic law. But why did the family members agree to taking the money. If they did not accept the money, then Islamic law allows capital punishment (only if the blood money is rejected). It is a huge amount of money but for the sake of the “dignity” of Pakistan, they should have pressed the court to continue their case and reject the money. What message did this give out to the world? You can kill anyone you want as long as you can buy your way out of it (actually that message is probably right on the spot).

    Incidentally, the US has said they are opening an investigation into Davis’ actions in Pakistan. I don’t think anything will come of it, probably just lip service.

  9. Aamir Ali says:
    March 16th, 2011 10:34 pm

    Ghairat Brigade defeated by dollars and green cards! True nature of Pakistanis exposed by this episode.

  10. March 16th, 2011 10:39 pm

    Finally , It happened. We ( People Of Pakistan ) got to know our values. We can be bought and sold any time even at our homeland . It was all pre-planned. We are always pressurized by our own people/agencies/political parties . Is it a democratic country? I feel ashamed of being a Pakistani now.

    Pakistan Is Now Known As Banana Republic Of Pakistan

  11. Somaiyah Mioz says:
    March 16th, 2011 10:44 pm

    CELEBRATION TIME!!!!!!!!
    Friends and neighbours,
    Good news for you all today.Anyone can come and blow out us Pakis’ brains whenever they like!!!after all, its only a matter of a few million dollars.plus,most of you wouldn’t even be required to do that.just shoot and run.be sure not to get stuck in a traffic jam
    CHEEEEERS!!!!!Yankees,RAW,(our very own)TALIBAN and whoever else feels the need to kill a person or two (or a hundred or two)

  12. Rasheed says:
    March 16th, 2011 10:53 pm

    - The diyyat applies if he were a member of the community, a Muslim, and then committed an ordinary murder of a person, not multiple murders in this dramatic fashion. this is not an ordinary murder,

    - its a time of war “on terror” that Umreeka wastes no time to remind us. so forgiveness by the bereaved is irrelevant. It’s a crime against the nation. He must have been kept in custody until every lead toward involvement in terror had been ruled out – Me wonders if most of the explosions happening in Pakistan or Middle Eastern countries are orchestrated by the US or Mossad agents.

    - there had to be charges of spying. Normally a spy is hanged or imprisoned for life, whether or not s/he committed murder.

    - the dying widow who committeed suicide wasn’t around to forgive, and had expressed her opposition to the idea of forgiveness or blood money, so forgiveness and diyyat was impossible in this case.

    - The case had to be considered in context – a daughter of the soil, Dr. Siddiqui was treated unjustly by Umreekan authorities – sh was sentenced for 86 years for ALLEGED, ATTEMPTED murder (caps for emphasis, not yelling!)

    - Like Husni Mubarak, like the Sheikhs of the Arabian countries, Paki leaders have in essence become agents of CIA and MUST BE REMOVED from office or ANY INFLUENCE, if possible (caps for yelling!)

  13. Adnan says:
    March 16th, 2011 10:53 pm

    Seems US don’t want to see Zardari regime happy. Ms.Clinton denies of any ‘Blood Money’. A slap for those who were ridiculing Shariah again.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/16/pakistani-court-reportedly-frees-jailed-cia-contractor/

  14. Omer says:
    March 16th, 2011 11:00 pm

    Simply speachless….

  15. Rasheed says:
    March 16th, 2011 11:10 pm

    “Bayghairat”? Really?

    For those of you talking about “ghairat”, look inward before blaming the government. For people who do not love or admire their own country and admire those of others (esp. Umreeka) have no right to blame the Pak government/army today.

    How many of you can speak two sentences of Urdu without using words of phrases of broken English? If you admire Umreeka, Umreeka will buy your hearts and minds (happened a long time ago); lives (done in January by Mr. Davis) and collective national soul (happened today)

  16. March 16th, 2011 11:19 pm

    Some comments from the ATP Facebook Page:

    - “this is totally zalalat did by our govt. criminals…………….”
    - “The thing i would like to know is HOW is this bad. Where is your extreme patriotism and religious zeal now..when that same thing is being used for something that you dont like ?”
    - “Both Blasphemy Law & Dayet Law was inducted by Zia Ul Haq ! Either both are RIGHT or BOTH are Wrong ! Showering one wid Rose petals & wanting other to be Hanged till death …. Very Double Standard … Allah never Likes Double Standard …esp ..in the Name of Religion …”
    - Bullshit i didnt expect lame comments from ur ends where are the Pakistani’s, Mr f**kin Davis was carefully exported out of the country he deserved to die as he committed 2 homicides ,he was supposed to be sentenced for life imprisonment but our upper level leaders are all scum bags i hope all of them are torched too …paisa kuch nai mila ga Victims ko sara kha gayan ga ya upar wala politicians mr zordariii included ..bc lota kusss ka …loosers bikayou loog .”
    - “A sad day for Pakistan and our judicial system.
    I am completely shocked, disappointed, angry, bewildered, saddened, confused.
    Another blow to our esteem and our worth as a Nation”
    - “do u want terrorists t0 come n take over it………terrorists r pr0duced n born by USA intelligence infact thr is n0 extremists except USA n its machinery”
    - “All moterfucker ther zardari nawaz the nation gone vote them”
    - “Dayet is a law pr0mulgated, enacted n implemented by Allah.wh0 is Zia ul Haq in beinging Deyat n Qisas laws…jaan k badly jaan, ankh k badly ankh or hath k badly hath hai………..”
    - “that’s the reason some people hate pakistan bcoz of those bullshit leaders”
    - ” its easy to BLAME the Hukmrans as they are already Blamed for everything & they are so Inefficient & must Blamed for that ! but may be … u forget about the Judiciary , Families , religious Parties , Army high ups & Media ….all of them have VESTED interest !!”
    - “hate leaders n0t any s0il or boundary…………Pakistan is n0t resp0nsible 4 the acts, actions n reactions f its inhabitants”
    - “very true sir the individuals and other sources u mentioned play a very vital role too but do for get the ones dictating all authority is zordari ass and his buddies sub ka sub amrica ka asanoun ka nicha daba hoya hain”
    - “.. Jub Musharraf tha tu Zerdari na tha , Jub Zia tha tu BB na thi , NAWAZ naa tha … Sub ki sarri zindagi JAIL main guzri Jub jub FUAJ ki 36 saal ki Hukmarani rahi … so its Not ZARDARI brother ! its The BEST ALLAY of USA in the REGION” ( as per Henry Kissinger)”

  17. Rasheed says:
    March 16th, 2011 11:21 pm

    God bless the people who are courageous enough to fill the streets of Pakistan with protest.

    Each of you should call ten others asking them to join you, who should call ten of their friends to join them, and so on…

    The crowds will get bigger and bigger and you eventually topple the unjust government of Mr. 10%.

    Follow the calls by Honorable Imran Khan; by Gen. Hamid Gul, who plans to be in protest tomorrow morning in civilian clothes along with his wife and children; and other courageous leaders. Bring out your families to express outrage against this injustice.

    Keep the protests FOR justice, not ANTI-American and you’ll succeed. – look at Egypt, Tunisia, Bahrain, Yemen. Maybe later in Saudi Arabia (their role is reported in Davis’ release);
    Oman; Jordan; Palestine;

    Join the Muslim Awakening!

  18. March 16th, 2011 11:21 pm

    More comments from the ATP Facebook Page:

    - “that is Ridiculous :( any paki did the same thing in EU & US can they treat them the same? why we don understand american Govt. has 2 faces ………………. Davis has done a big crime by killing innocent people so he should be punished thats all, plz don politicize it?”
    - “here one thing vich is really not different one…bocz here in that forum everyone is against of America n hate american dictation….but specially guyz if they got any opertunity to go there they will never lose infect most of you people are struggled for that purpose….then why you people are against to america…n you people wana serve them for your own benefit n became a part of brain-drain…..at that time you never think about Pakistan……..LOVE you Pakistan…..”
    - “Pakistan freed Raymond Davis, thank you Pakistan.
    Chicago, USA.”
    - “Everyone knew that it would happen, it was just a matter of time…it needs a lot of courage and character, which unfortunately no Muslim leader has, least of all Pakistani leadership. We are a nation of “Arguments for arguments sake” ONLY, BIG TALKS ONLY …and NOTHING else.
    It was a public pressure to keep him for so long, if it was Mushraff this Davis guy (Not his original name) would have long gone by now.
    We send our women and men to get handful of dollars: When Kansi was sent back son of that time president got millions to sale his own countryman. In reply to that one of Detroit’s senators was so angry for paying that kind of money. He said (on record) “These Pakis will sale their mothers for few hundred dollars; we do not have to pay this kind of money to “THESE KIND OF PEOPLE””
    - “The irony of the CIA benefiting from sharia law. I love it”
    - “Why thanking Pakistan …… Say Thanx to Saudia .. that always come to AID their MASTERS !!”
    - “The nation of Pakistan should not be judged based on the actions of its deformed leaders, we need to rise above that. Greed, injustice will continue .. . signs of the last day..Sadly it happens across the world. Raymond got lucky due to his nationality but remember that Allah swt does not look at your nationality but your imaan, he will not escape the wrath of Allah swt and on that note neither will we by indulging in offensive remarks. Have faith in Allah swt. Pakistan zindabad InshAllah one day!”
    - “Pakistani-Americans should now don a warm welcome to the ‘fast track’ naturalized US citizens consisting of 19 ‘rich’ family members of the murdered victims who swore never to compromise! Guess money talks and bullshit walks which is the reason why these ‘ex-Pakistanis’ chose to give up their Pakistaniat to become citizens of a country whose national killed their kith and kin in the first place. Legal but most certainly not logical!”

  19. Sidra says:
    March 16th, 2011 11:51 pm

    Many facts are kept under cover.Extremely one-sided , unjustified, unlawful, decision.Every common Pakistani condemns it.

  20. Naan Haleem says:
    March 17th, 2011 12:18 am

    Previously it was:

    نابینا جنم لیتی ہے اولاد بھی اس کی
    جو قوم دیا کرتی ہے تاوان میں آنکھیں

    Nabeena janam leti hai aulaad bhi us ki
    Jo Qoum diya karti hai taawaan mein aankhen

    Now it is:

    غلاموں کو جنم دے گی ہر نسل ہی اس کی
    جو قوم بچتی ہے جوانوں کی لاشیں

    Ghulaamon ko janam de gi har nasl hi us ki
    Jo qaum bechti hai jawaanon ki laashen

  21. Aamir Ali says:
    March 17th, 2011 12:26 am

    A few naive Pakistanis may come out on street to protest but most will move on.

  22. Nihari says:
    March 17th, 2011 12:30 am

    Channells are saying 20 crores and american citizenship….not a bad deal….how many people were killed on karachi streets recently…what did they got….now every pakistani family will have this wish that their loved ones are killed by an american :) magar yeh rutba-e buland mila jis ko mil gaya!

  23. Asim says:
    March 17th, 2011 12:30 am

    I am just curious to know, if there was any “blood money”, how much of it will politicians and gov’t keep as their “cut” and how much, if any, will actually make it to the deads’ relatives?

    Also, those who say that even though Islam allows “blood money” Davis should not have been let go, hmmm, let me understand, you want to take the money but you dont want to deliver your promise?

  24. Yasir says:
    March 17th, 2011 12:35 am

    Good one, Haroon.
    No difference between US in this case and those throwing petals over Qadri after Salman Taseer murder. both are supporting murderers and in both cases so is govt of Pakistan and our politicians. Pathetic

  25. Raju Icecream says:
    March 17th, 2011 12:40 am

    not at all surprised, to be expected, one way or the other.
    did we really believe that a US national would be tried, charged, sentenced and executed in a Pakistani court…hah..

    A petit woman is charged, tried and sentenced, after being brutally tortured, for allegedly killing US soldiers..big deal..it was a combat zone….but this guy is allowed to walk…haif sad haif.

    what a country….

  26. Rasheed says:
    March 17th, 2011 12:51 am

    So 10% of the money, at least, would have gone to you know whose pocket.

    And I can’t understand for the life of me why Pakistanis elected this buffoon Gilani as their premier. The guy has such slow reflexes that once you ask him a question, you have to wait and wait to get a clear answer if at all. Let alone show any spine to powerful superpowers. Time for him to go.

  27. Rubina says:
    March 17th, 2011 12:58 am

    I belong to a “beghairat qaum”………

    I am very much depressed and have lost hope……BUT
    I will still look for some kind of platform to protest. ….

  28. Pakistani says:
    March 17th, 2011 1:04 am

    Intel agent to agent bargaining has been going on for ages this case is special because this time ISI and military had some high level deals to strike with USA so they used media and peoples pressure to hi-light the issue and threat america to

    1.Release ISI agents captured in Afghanistan
    2.Increase military budget
    3.provide state of the art technology to compete with India
    4.And don`t even think about any accountability

    ISI used ramon till the end even courts convicted him and they sent a message to America that if you cant agree with us on this we have other ways to twist your arms.

    sad thing is that they made a fool out of the people and now they are thriving to go out on the street and protest against civilian government where in reality this is all done by the military industrial complex.

  29. Omar Khan says:
    March 17th, 2011 1:59 am

    Raymond Davis’s case was finalized the very day he was brought into the police station where he was told, “Mineral Water? botal da? No money no Water.”

    Happy 23 March

  30. Rasheed says:
    March 17th, 2011 2:19 am

    Still thinking aloud about the Davis case:

    Some scholar might complicate the case further with the point that during the time of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), when a case involving a non-Muslim was brought before him, he decided the punishment of the non-Muslim based on his own tradition, not Muslim laws.

    This means that giving Davis, a non-Muslim man, the Muslim penalty of blood-money might be against the Sunnah of the Prophet (PBUH), and may even be called a Tauheen-i-Risalat! (blasphemy).

    It could add a new dimension to the case.

  31. Brian says:
    March 17th, 2011 2:45 am

    Out there on twitter this post is being talked about in terms of the idea that Sen Kerry of USA had said he would be tried in USA if released. Am surprised no one has picked up on that here in reference to the last para. I think that is an interesting idea. Specially if US has to maintain any credibility as post says. I hope Kerry lives up to that and he gets real trial in USA. It can be used to show strength of US justice system.

  32. Un-religionized Pakistani says:
    March 17th, 2011 3:00 am

    Today Qadri’s Rose Petals have been avenged by Allah.

  33. Pakistani says:
    March 17th, 2011 3:05 am

    A bold post, Adil Najam. You seem to have a hand on the pulse of real Pakistan.

    I am sorry to say a lot of the other bloggers I follow and generally like are showing thier America-loving (or America-fearing tendencies).

  34. FreeFromFear says:
    March 17th, 2011 4:35 am

    don’t blame americans….it is in islam where if you have money…you can kill and get away with it…..

  35. Mike says:
    March 17th, 2011 4:48 am

    I had read a report in Tribune about the men who were killed by Davis were affiliated with security agencies. After the initial report, nothing was written about it.

    What happened? Too hot for Pakistan media to handle?

  36. Joe says:
    March 17th, 2011 5:57 am

    You bet I love America! I have been around the world and there is no place like my America! Raymond Davis shot two armed Pakistanis who were trying to rob him. The fact that the Pakistanis, trying to rob or kill Mr. Davis, had guns meant that Mr.Davis felt his life was in imminent danger. In the U.S. if you feel your life is in immenent danger you are justified in using deadly force. Pakistan is a dangerous place for Americans. Pakistanis are hiding alqaeda operatives and are further more hiding Osama Bin Laden and his deputies. Pakistan is only an Allie because the U.S. pays them to be. The U.S. has been paying Pakistan Blood money for years. Fundamentalist Islam is the rule in Pakistan and Fundamentalist Islam is an enemy to the world. Good Day, Joe.

  37. Joe says:
    March 17th, 2011 6:07 am

    Now as a sovern nation the only claim Pakistan has is to ask what Mr. Davis was doing in their country and why he was armed. Mr. Davis was justifed to defend his life. But what is embarrasing to the U.S. is that he was discovered at all. It is a black eye for the intelligence community. In short our spies need to get better at being spies. Good Day, Joe.

  38. Vicky says:
    March 17th, 2011 8:03 am

    I guess the Americans have started a new love affair for Shariah Law. I guess now the USA has officially accepted Shariah Law… wow!

  39. Saif says:
    March 17th, 2011 8:24 am

    And the worst of all – the decision was made in the Pakistani court. You can safely assume the connivance of Government, Judiciary, Police and the security forces !!

    What should the Pakistani’s protest for? The corruption within every organization in the country, or the betrayal by the relatives who will soon flee with their Green cards, or the petty case of 2 murders?

    -S

  40. Brian says:
    March 17th, 2011 8:31 am

    @Mike.
    The Tribune IS a Pakistani newspaper as was the source of that news. It was all over the Pakistan press. Unlike the floozies in the US press that have just been retyping state dept statements and actively lying on this throughout.
    Shame on us, Mike!

  41. Adnan says:
    March 17th, 2011 8:32 am


    Fundamentalist Islam is the rule in Pakistan and Fundamentalist Islam is an enemy to the world.

    @Joe:
    and Idiot Americans and their pet slaves have no idea that releasing of Davis is making them at loser end; more “Islamic” fundamentalism and anti-Americanism ahead.

    I am unable to figure out why Liberals are happy? Are they happy that their Mama, Davis got released? if any liberal has brain he would realize how lethal it is. America is promoting religion more by doing such acts and liberals are helping them so infact they should not blame fundamentalism among Pakistanis. At the end of the day, US and his pet slaves are at losing end.

  42. sipa says:
    March 17th, 2011 8:52 am

    Sharia law saves American CIA operative.mmmm….

    Interesting point though on whether Pakistanis are enraged because 2 civilians were killed for ostensibly no reason or because 2 civilians were killed for ostensibly no reason BY AN American. I mean if people were being killed for no reason, Pakistanis should be in a permanent state of rage. So why is that Pakistanis only become enraged when people are killed by outsiders?:

  43. Musalman says:
    March 17th, 2011 9:07 am

    @sipa: Maybe you have not noticed that Pakistanis ARE in a constant state of rage at the constant killings not just by outsiders (not only Davis but also his drones) but also by insiders. But I guess you chose to ignore that purposely to make a cheap point (I wonder where you are from? NO, I don’t!)

    @Adnan: for once I agree with the first part of your response to Joe. But the second half proves that idiot American fundamentalists are no different from idiot Pakistani fundamentalists in twisting facts and speaking outright lies to advance their agendas of hate: Which “liberal” is happy? Only idiot fundamentalists like Ansar Abassi are happy as how “Islamic Law” saved the day! No liberal I know is!

  44. Rafique says:
    March 17th, 2011 9:22 am

    It is pathetic. True.
    But of the possible outcomes, it is not a bad one.
    The one immediate result of this will be that a lot of the other Raymonds floating around in Pakistan will disappear, maybe already have.
    In an odd way this has given Pakistan more political leverage against the US.

  45. Adnan says:
    March 17th, 2011 9:49 am

    @Rubina: we showed ourselves Beghairat when we handed over Emal Kansi to USA so nothing new at all.

    As they say, Izat anay jani wali cheez hay, Admi ko beghairat hona chahye

  46. MQ says:
    March 17th, 2011 9:59 am

    In spite of the all the noise made against it, the Sharia system of justice offers practical solutions to some of the most intractable problems of this world. Even the USA has accepted its advantages and benefited from it.

    Let’s see how the Capital’s “midia” person, the “flotilla journalist”, the “koala bear” and their like pick up this cup without a handle.

  47. Kafir Per Pakistani Law says:
    March 17th, 2011 11:31 am

    Pakistanis proved it again. They do ZULM (atrocities) only on MUZLUM (weaker among them). Be they the Christians who sweep Pakistani streets and clean after their “masters” Pakistanis or other forced minorities.
    Pakistanis keep up your tradition. Good job.

    Personal Disclosure:
    I hold belief that:
    1-There is no God but Allah (SWT) and Muhammad (SAWS) WAS HIS LAST AND GREATEST PROPHET.
    2-No new or old prophet can come after Rasul Allah SAWS.
    3-I consider all reciters of Kalima-Shahada as Muslims.
    4-I do NOT belong to Qadiani organization headed by their Khalifa residing in England, that holds belief that thousands of prophets can come after Rasul Allah SAWS (nauzubilah), but they will only come in their Qadiani organization.

  48. shahid says:
    March 17th, 2011 12:09 pm

    Rich can kill , pay blood money and go scot free.
    What type of justice is this?

  49. tipusultan says:
    March 17th, 2011 12:12 pm

    THE REALITY IS THAT AMERICAN LOBBYISTS, MOSTLY EFFECTED GROUPS, WERE BADLY EFFECTED DUE TO THIS STRANGE POSITION, NEVER WANT TO COME IN FRONT OF IMPERALIST, WE BEG, WE PARDON, BECAUSE WE ARE WEAKERS IN ALL SIDES, NOT SELF RELAINT
    NATION, WE HAVE TO RUN THIS COUNTRY ON AIDS, LOANS, BEGGING, MANY INSTANCES COME AGAIN LIKE IN FUTURE, IF WE DONOT COME UP TO OUR OWN MEANS,

    LONG LIVE PAKISTAN,

    TIPUSULTAN,
    KARACHI-PAKISTAN

  50. Qamar says:
    March 17th, 2011 12:17 pm

    aaj hum ko apnay Pakistani honay per Sharmandgi hai… Shai kha tha kisi americe nay.. we can sold our mother only in 10 USD….. lannat hai humari Govt. per.

  51. Karam Ali says:
    March 17th, 2011 12:57 pm

    Raymond going going,… gone.
    NOW WHAT.. should we waste our time crying over split milk.. or should we correct ourselves… RAymond freedom should have been the DEAL OF THE CENTURY… but we wasted our time by going after his BLOOD, because of VIRTUOUS SUICIDE of a stupid woman gave it a twist (the question is SUICIDE allowed in Pakistan to get what you want.. than all the SUICIDE BOMBERS will be thinking that we are justified).. we could have stopped the drone attacks… we could have shut down the americans bases in PAKISTAN.. we could have stopped the money that was coming into PAKISTAN. but NOOOOO… We went after his blood.. we have become APE in pure sense.. we would just like to create go ape like tendencies of creating havoc within ourselves… WE HAVE LOST A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO FREE OURSELVES FROM THE SHACKLES OF THE AMERICANS.. PERIOD.

  52. Anwer says:
    March 17th, 2011 6:03 pm

    کہیں نہیں ھے کہیں بھی نہیں لہوکا سرغ
    نہ دست و ناخن قاتل نہ آستیں پہ نشاں
    نہ سرخی لب خنجر نہ رنگ نوک سناں
    نہ خاک پر کوئی دھبا نہ بام پر کوئی سراغ
    کہیں نہیں ھے کہیں بھی نہیں لہو کا سراغ
    نہ صرف خدمت شاہاں کہ خوںبہا دیتے
    نہ دیں کی نذر کہ بیعانہ جزا دیتے
    نہ رزم گاہ میں برسا کہ معتبر ھوتا
    کسی علم پہ رقم ھو کے مشتہر ھوتا
    پکارتا رہا بے آسرا یتیم لہو
    کسی کو بہر سماعت نہ وقت تھا نہ دماغ
    نہ مدعی نہ شہادت حساب پاک ھوا
    یہ کوں خاک نشیناں تھا رزق خاک ھوا

  53. Rasheed says:
    March 17th, 2011 7:02 pm

    As someone (Gen. Gul?) says:

    9/11 to Bahaana hai
    Afghanistan siraf Thikaana hai
    Pakistan asal Nishaana hai

    He expresses concern that Umreeka’s next move would be to take over the nuclear material …

    I wonder if the Pak govt. has already achieved more than what he feared, to please their slave-masters — the fissile material might have already been handed over to the U.S. How would we know that Pak actually still has it? After all, the stupid Gilani govt. kept the impending release of Davis from the country. It was easier for them to do a secret transfer of the nuclear material. Any thoughts from those in the know?

  54. SEO Training says:
    March 17th, 2011 7:12 pm

    Raymond’s case is open in the court of public. He is guilty and he’s not going to just go away with time. He will have to face justice when zardari and aaloo face justice in the court of Allah.

  55. Rasheed says:
    March 17th, 2011 7:19 pm

    If Pakistan is merely a hollow shell of what the Qaid dreamed of, maybe we aren’t capable of having, or running, a true state.

    As much as I hate to say this — and we might actually be heading toward that unthinkable — an eventual take-over by INDIA to merge Pakistan into it, so that the resulting super-country would be managed by the INDIAN govt., which has shown much more maturity than the series of clowns that have been bestowed upon us as our leaders. By contrast, Indians are organized, are intellectually and technologically superior, protect their minorities, HAVE LAWS, and DON’T have blasphemy laws. Pakistan just suffered huge losses due to misapplication of Shariat laws – Taseer, Bhatti and Davis.

    That way Pakistan might lose a lot, but at least it won’t lose CRICKET — our all-time addiction. Even if Pakistan suffers a nuclear attack from Israel, the news channels would be sure to run a big fat cricket story right after, or maybe even before, that covering the attack!

  56. Rasheed says:
    March 17th, 2011 7:41 pm

    قابل نفرت ہے وہ کیوں ساری دنیا کے لیے
    ایک لمحے کے لیے بھی اس نے یہ سوچا نہیں
    وہ زمانے بھر کو دھشت گرد کہتا ہے مگر
    کویّ دہشت گرد اس کی گرد کو پہنچا نہیں
    (Anwar Mas’ood)

    Davis us ki “Gard” hai!

  57. Mirza Mudassir says:
    March 17th, 2011 7:50 pm

    Disgraceful?
    yes indeed.

    Is anyone of us is going to learn anything from this?
    I sincerely doubt that.

    we call ourselves a nation?
    we wrong ourselves. we are not a nation. we are bunch of nations in a piece of bereaved land figthing over power and resources.

    We are a bunch of delusional crazies!
    sure as hell looks like it too.

  58. March 17th, 2011 8:57 pm

    ISI/Army fooled brilliantly everyone including USA, Pakistani awam, media, politicians and judiciary – and get away without a single blame. (Full 5 stars to their performance).

    hota hai shab-o-roz tamasha mere aage

  59. readinglord says:
    March 17th, 2011 9:21 pm

    Certainly this story is not over yet.

    It was in any case a good deal for the robbers who though failed to rob Davis, apparently caused robbery of the public purse to the extent of billions of rupees.

    The question of question is, whether and how compensation money to the relatives of the alleged robbers killed by Davis was made if not made by the accused himself.

  60. Saqib masroor says:
    March 17th, 2011 10:56 pm

    If blood money has been paid, then there is no more case against him. The families have pardoned him and the case is closed. The crime did not happen on US soil and the Pakistani case is closed, then US authorities do not have to investigate anything besides their own official inquiry. But certainly not any criminal investigations.

  61. Mat says:
    March 18th, 2011 1:41 am

    Husband Shumaila ka bhi mara aur wo khud bhi mari lekin us kay ghar walo ko kia mila Police ka Lathi charge. Hairat hai.

    Hum nay to news channel pur yeh hi dekha hai.

    Allah reham karay, Jo kuch bi hua acha nahi hua Dukh hua.

    Hamari qaum ko koi Value nahi hai, Jisay Amrica nay shukria ada kia Raymond ko chornay ka. Aj Kabailion pur attack kur kay drone plane kay zariye.aur 41 admi Bay gunah mar diye on 17th March ko. Extracted from Kamran khan.

  62. Mat says:
    March 18th, 2011 1:46 am

    Mara shumaila ka Husband bhi aur Shumaila bhi , Lekin us kay ghar walon ko kia Mila Police ka Lathi charge.

    Hamari kom ki value nahi, Afsos hota hai, Buhat dukh hota hai.

    Amrica nay Raymond ko chornay ka shukria is tara ada kia kay Drone attack kay zariye 41 Bay gunnah Qabaili Log mar diye jsi ki shadeed Muzammat Army chief nay bhi aj 17th March,2011 ko kee hai.

  63. readinglord says:
    March 18th, 2011 4:08 am

    @Mat

    “Amrica nay Raymond ko chornay ka shukria is tara ada kia kay Drone attack kay zariye 41 Bay gunnah Qabaili Log mar diye jsi ki shadeed Muzammat Army chief nay bhi aj 17th March,2011 ko kee hai.”

    Chalo muzamtion mein ek izafah to ho geya! Hahaha!

  64. Mike says:
    March 18th, 2011 7:01 am

    @Brian

    Yes, I know the The Express Tribune is a Pakistani newspaper.

    Questions I have:

    Were the two people killed by Davis employed by Pak security services?

    How come there in no information about these people?

    Why after the initial news in the Tribune about security service affiliation of dead men, no Pakistani newspaper investigated the dead people?

    In short who were these two dead men?

  65. Brian says:
    March 18th, 2011 7:23 am

    @Mike.
    So, lets assume they were the security service people from Pakistan.
    So what? Would that make the murders OK?

  66. Mike says:
    March 18th, 2011 7:50 am

    @Brian

    It is amazing there is no information about dead men — something smells.

    If the dead men were part of state security apparatus, the whole ball game changes.

    You are calling it murder, I call it self defense.

    Do not believe what pro Taliban Punjabi government says (it denied Ajmal Kasab was Pakistani citizen for a long time.)

  67. Brian says:
    March 18th, 2011 8:05 am

    @Mike
    Ok, my mistake. I had thought you knew Pakistan and the issues. If you think the Punjab government is ‘pro-Taliban’ then you obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

    If the dead men were Pakistani security operatives that would only mean they were amongst the US’s and CIA’s closest allies in the world. How do you think the CIA operates in Pakistan if not via the ISI? That would mean this was not just murder but murder of US assets.

    As to what we know about the dead men. What really smells is that what we know about the man who is alive and who killed them is so much less than what we know about the dead men.

    ‘nuf said.

  68. Mike says:
    March 18th, 2011 8:09 am

    Cyril Almeida:

    SO who lied? They all did. The federal government knew whether Davis had immunity or not, but it kept quiet. The Punjab government and police knew the two ‘innocents’ killed were at least petty thieves and probably more, but

    Punjab hawked a different line.

    The media had in its possession eyewitness accounts that appeared to corroborate Davis’s defence, but quietly shelved the video testimonies. An orgy of self-righteous indignation is a made-for-television spectacle and is extremely profitable. The Americans knew ‘our diplomat’ wasn’t a diplomat — immunity being a separate question — but that was awkward, so they pretended otherwise. The American media was in on the secret, but dissembled.

  69. Adnan says:
    March 18th, 2011 8:39 am

    The friendly gesture of USA on release of Davis, 22 civilians killed due to Drone attacks.

    Will Zardari accept compensation if some Reymond Davis kill his son and daughters? Just wondering.

  70. Ahmar says:
    March 18th, 2011 9:03 am

    Regarding Adil Najam’s conclusion that as per John Kerry, he would be tried in a US court of law….that was before he was acquitted by the Pakistani courts. Now can he again be tried for the same offence…double jeopardy situation ??? I doubt.

    I believe, instead of cursing Raymond Davis, we should look at ourselves. It was our justice system that acquitted him. so the weakness lies at our part. We had stood in front of the US pressure for so long, but we have to decide whether the end decision by a Pakistani court of law was actually legal, and if not, then we should demonstrate against our justice system that let him go – - when the whole nations was sanguine of our justice system taking the stand.

    Anyways, pl read the following one-liner, and give it a serious (and not EMOTIONAL) thought:

    خالی پیٹ غیرت اور بھرے پیٹ عبادت خاصہ مشکل کام ہے

  71. daud khan says:
    March 18th, 2011 7:20 pm

    Our Government fully Corrupted otherwise Raymond Davis can’t go USA.
    Many people killed by drone attack, but still our government going rest on the bed of money

  72. AHsn says:
    March 18th, 2011 8:46 pm

    “Will Zardari accept compensation if some Reymond Davis kill his son and daughters? Just wondering.”

    Of course he will, if the price (blood money!) is RIGHT (perhaps a few trillion US $)

  73. Ravi says:
    March 19th, 2011 12:57 am

    One Taliban spokesman said “Will Zardari accept compensation if some Reymond Davis kill his son and daughters? Just wondering.”

    Why Zardari ?. Substitute your military bosses instead. Do not act so naive and dumb you dude.

  74. readinglord says:
    March 19th, 2011 6:19 am

    Not a bad deal for the paky robbers, killed by Davis, masterfully, apparently, in self-defense. They became shaheed (guaranteed heaven in the next world) and their families got the earthly ‘heaven’.

    But the question is who bore the loss? Yehni, speaking in Punjabi, thuk kinoon lagi’?

    Mahloom hota he kih eh thuk wi pak hakoomat noon lagey(یہ تھک وی سرکار نوں لگے.) Yehni ‘saadiaan jutiaan te saade ei sir’ (ساڈیاں جتیاں تے ساڈے ایی سر!)!

    What a joke has been played with ‘shariah law’ and the paki public!

  75. Arif says:
    March 19th, 2011 10:00 am

    It is clear this story is not over. The US showed Pakistan the finger with the drones the very next day. What they are not realizing is that the Davis affair is forcing even those who had some sympathy for US to lose that sympathy in disgust at the way it uses Pakistan. Just like a condom and no more!

  76. Adnan says:
    March 19th, 2011 10:10 am

    @Ahmar:

    Does this mean that those who are cursing “Ghairat Brigade” will happily offer their sons,daughters and wives to US and grab money in the name of Mulfi Mafad?

    I believe they can. As US senator said once, Pakistanis can even sell their mothers for sake of dollars. This classic picture says all:

    http://yfrog.com/h8bosxqj

  77. Adnan says:
    March 19th, 2011 11:13 pm

    @ReadlingLord: Sure, you are right they got the heaven here and there but what about those who are kissing up Davis and US and been doing it for long time yet US always kick on their but. These ppl are perfect example of:

    Na Khuda Hi Mila Na visal-e-sanam
    Na Idhar Ke Rahe Na Udhar Ke Rahe

  78. Javeria says:
    March 20th, 2011 3:05 am

    The Pakistanis and the US have no idea what the impact of this hasty decision would be. The US should just have left Raymond to the courts but this whole charade of using Sharia Law and then denying it make the US look like a fool as well as a snob, what they in the US call a S.O.B. That attitude is really what has angered people and the willingness of Pakistan government and stooges like Husain Haqqani to dance to US tunes. By the way, whose ambassador is Husain Haqqani, Pakistan or USA?

  79. ShahidnUSA says:
    March 20th, 2011 8:55 am

    “Pakistanis can even sell their mothers for sake of dollars”.

    Adnan quoted comments of some idiot US senator.

    I can assure the readers that I have listened plenty of times American senators and I find them extremely careful, sensitive and educated.
    Anybody including Pakistanis love their mothers immensely, they live for her one smile and can melt with her one tear.

    As far as Pakistanis army concerned, they have vowed to defend their country, I don’t know what circumstances they have to do what they do.

    Mr Adnan, Please don’t trigger people emotions with your cheap ways.

  80. Adnan says:
    March 20th, 2011 9:18 am

    @ShahidunNisa

    you continue to exhibit your dark side, regarding your comment that Senetors are careful, don’t forget how Wikileaks leaked about these “careful” politicians. A while back US ambassador to MExico resigned. Similarly few days back a guy was forced to leave because he showed concerned about Wikileaks so don’t assume for a moment that Americans give you liberals respect because you kiss them up. The senator was true and you even know about it.

  81. ShahidnUSA says:
    March 20th, 2011 11:10 am

    Mr Adnan,

    If I were you I would spend more time in getting your own house (Pakistan) “brighter” in such an order that other follows and copy your good examples and not look at you suspiciously.

    Instead of a denial, teach people how to take the responsibility of their actions.

    It would be a great service from you.

  82. Sayqa Faisal says:
    March 20th, 2011 7:13 pm

    The courts have acquitted Davis in a perfectly legal manner. Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani has said on multiple occasions that the government will abide by the court’s decision, Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah has said the Punjab government was not involved in the release.
    This leaves only a few loose ends to this James Bond ending to the Davis saga:
    The media hype, and inevitable spin, where it remains to be seen what the final TV channel ‘approved narrative’ to this release will be.
    The religious/political/other groups who will still hope to milk the Davis case, calling foul, calling for revolution, and calling for toppling the government who will be blamed for letting a murderer loose.
    Looking beyond the moral arguments tied into this saga , I would argue that this ‘diplomatic disaster’ has come to a best-case-scenario end. A week from now, the media hype will have died down, several new crises will have emerged, many of which will trump the Davis saga, and the United States and Pakistan will go back to their usual quagmire of issues. Till then, we can all sit back and witness the media wave rise and crash.

  83. Nadeem says:
    March 21st, 2011 2:39 am

    The way Davis was whisked away will become for the US what Lal Masjid became for Musharraf. I think both decisions were the right ones in really difficult choices, but in both cases things went wrong by HOW they were done. That is what will happen to the US in here. Raymond Davis is the agent that will keep giving : CRAP!

  84. Bangash says:
    March 21st, 2011 4:00 am

    Pakistanis are not happy when Aimal Kansi or Afia Siddiqi are “handed over”, and Pakistanis are also unhappy when Shariat is used to release Raymond Davis. I doubt there is anything US or Pakistan govt could have really done to please Pakistanis.

  85. Nawaz says:
    March 24th, 2011 7:49 pm

    Seems like Raymond Davis has ‘disappeared’ again. Totally no news on where he is. Could he already be back in Pakistan?

  86. Imad says:
    March 25th, 2011 3:01 am

    This Davis case will haunt US and Pakistan for a long time to come. when the history is written this will be the turning point.

  87. Kamal says:
    March 27th, 2011 4:24 am

    Cricket in Pakistan. And Libya and Japan in the USA.
    And Raymond Davis all but disappears.

  88. Asim says:
    March 30th, 2011 8:16 am

    Will Raymond return to our screens after the cricket is over?

  89. Andy says:
    April 7th, 2011 1:29 am

    I did a search for Raymond Davis and it seems he has disappeared totally from US news media. As if he never existed. How the media lies to us.

  90. Paul says:
    April 8th, 2011 7:31 am

    Actually, I guess the story IS over!

  91. faaiz muhammad says:
    June 8th, 2011 7:47 pm

    We have no right to celebrate independence because we are still a slave and we take dictations from our lord America for every single issue in the country. As Raymond had allegations of double murdering and his act was strongly condemned by the whole nation. Imagine the intensity of heat and grief that wife of a victim committed suicide out of feelings of injustice to her. Religious groups and political parties pushed the families of victim to accept blood money referring it as a shariah rule. Raymond Davis was set freed after all the mess but irony and woe be many times on our leaders for failing to recover Aafia from US prison. It’s a clear manifestation of American double standards of law and political hegemony.
    Another victim of Raymond Davis found in a posh area of Lahore
    http://www.dunyanews.tv/index.php?key=Q2F0SUQ9MiNOaWQ9Mjc3Nzg=



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