Posted on November 4, 2010
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15 responses to “Everyone Wants to Make a Speech and Be Angry”

  1. Watan Aziz says:

    You know what is wrong with Pakistan?

    The gitter-mitter crowd wants to call “great flooding” as “great floods”.

    And the ignorant mullah, (and we have at least one resident ignorant mullah) who wants to call it the wrath of god (yes, with a small “g’, as the big “G” does not do this.)

    So, there you have it.

    Good, honest, decent and hardworking Pakistanis slammed from both sides.

    These so called “liberals” do not want you to speak up in their “serious policy discussions” and the ignorant mullah does not want you to speak up in “his” masjid.

    Both wrong. And both do not want to be called out for their wrongs.

    One unleashes the force of the state, the other the mob with “god’s” help!

    Both will unleash ferocity on those who “dare” to speak up and say, “you cannot walk on us anymore”.

    Good and ordinary Pakistanis are held hostage to the madness of these self proclaimed “liberals” and these self proclaimed “deen-dars”. Neither knows the core principles and neither values the core beliefs.

    And I cannot seem to get off my soapbox!

  2. Watan Aziz says:

    [Sultan Rahi on]

    Whayyy, kisss “serious policy discussions” dey talk kardan ehn You?

    [Sultan Raho off]

    Could this be how, “I-Slammed-Everyone-Else-Abad” is great and how to make it even better? Or how Lahore can rob more resources? Or how Karachi can suck away wind from rest of the nation?

    Wait, wait, wait, I got it. We have to help the poor by spending billions on major projects!

    Yep, those “contracts” are needed to line up pockets and bank accounts. This circus has been going on since 1948!

    Or is it how, Mai Jori Jamali’s mother “traveled” two miles to get water, and how she “travels” two miles to get water, and how her daughter will “travel” two miles to get water?

    Oh the haughtiness of the haughty!

    I wish I could say I am stupefied at this post. I am not. This is a reflection of what is wrong with Pakistan. The thinking of the “gitter-mitter” crowd. They want Mai Jori Jamali and Shazia Mashi to bow on their altar.

    And stay bowed.

    Yes, master, please do mess up our lives, blame us for being uneducated, blame us for having children (population growth). And yes master, your screw ups are not your screw ups, they are a blessing to Pakistanis. Yes, master, you have been sent upon us from heaven. Yes master, you can pee on us and call it a rain. And yes, master, if you pee on us even more, call it “great floods”.

    I know some will claim,well, this NGO is doing this and that. And this group is doing this and that for the people. And this blog is doing this and that for Pakistan.

    Well, it is not fast enough. It is not good enough. It is not big enough. And if you will live in the 3 big cities, not matter what you will say you are doing, it is not fair enough.

    There are mothers who do not sleep through the night whose children are deprived of simple Aspirin.

    There are fathers who are carrying their children for miles so that they can get to the nearest doctor.

    And in the 3 cities, the glamor, the lights, the shiny cars.

    This is not sustainable.

    The soapbox.

    Yes, get the soapbox everyone. Say it out loud. Say it out clear. Say it out again and again, until, civility and respect for humanity prevails. Get on your soapboxes and demand for jury boxes. Get on your soapboxes and demand for ballot boxes. Again and again. And, again and again.

    It is a process and it has to be started. It will be uncomfortable. There will be mistakes. Rome was not built in one day. And the gitter-mitter crowd will not come to these sense in one day either.

    The give and take of the process will educate everyone what is the right way of expression and what is the wrong way of expression.

    Pakistanis are good people. Pakistanis are honest people. Pakistanis are hardworking people. Pakistanis are decent people.

    And you be happy and be proud that you hear from Pakistanis. Pakistanis who love Pakistan. Pakistanis who care about Pakistan. Pakistanis who want to live in peace. Pakistanis who want security. Pakistani who want dignity.

    Pakistanis who want Equity. Pakistanis who want justice.

    Because, as these words are in black and white, there are enemies of Pakistan who wish Pakistan so bad, you do not want to even think about it.

    To the soapboxes everyone!

  3. Watan Aziz says:

    Typos acknowledged.

    Part and parcel of the blogging culture!

  4. Watan Aziz says:

    Oh, the pomposity in pompousness of pompous “gitter mitter” crowd.

    And I reject it.

    Every civil society of great nations (and through history, if you will) has three boxes.

    The soap box.

    The ballot box. (Well, this is relatively new concept in history).

    The jury box. (Judiciary or justice system, active, with spine and respect of the citizenry.)

    The ballot box is an orderly exercise and the transfer of power. The jury box is a must. No nation will survive injustice. It is the law of nature.

    But the soap box is the perhaps the most important. Where someone who has a point to make, can make a speech, a question, hell, even heckle. As long as it does not involve “gali-gloach” or “dhanga-mushti”, all is well.

    And I would rather that Pakistanis take the soap box again and again than not. Much better that breaking laws; causing civil disturbance, mayhem and violence. I would rather have people disrupt ..a serious policy discussion and tell them we are not going to take it anymore, than either to keep it inside or worse, fall victims to those who excel in misguiding people.

    What the way, ..a serious policy discussion, was this the discussion where the topic was how to call the “great flooding”, “great floods”? I mean, I like to know what these serious policy discussions of the “gitter-mitter” crowd is? And please do let me know when and where the next one will be held. I like to send in some water from the same place Mai Jori Jamali gets her water. Will be no time that these “serious policy” planners will be seriously sick and sitting on the side walks throwing up the contents of their sumptuous consumption from stolen wealth of the nation.

    People are getting bolder and bolder.

    Best news I have heard! Yes folks, get your soap boxes out.

    It is ironic, that this post is on the heals of all those folks who were quite when the wife of CJP was manhandled (yes, it was a man) by police, but spoke up when one of their very own’s speech was under threat.

    Free speech is a process. It sometimes comes with a lot of bad speech. Good writing is a process. It also comes with a lot of bad writing. We do not wake up one day and know how to deliver a good speech. We do not wake up one day and know to write better.

    The more avenues, the better.

    I will again gratefully quote Sabeen Mahmud: A lot of people discredit online activism and ask for ‘action’. This is a step towards action. These discussions need to be kept alive; they contribute towards building a critical mass of ‘resistance. This is not about ‘publicity’, it’s about demanding accountability, it’s about asking questions, it’s about saying NO, we will not sit back and allow to walk all over us.

    Online activism = soap box

    The real problem is that the discourse is divorced from facts, from data and from reason.

    And so who says who has the facts right? Mai Jori Jamali or the gitter-mitter corwd? Shazia Mashi or the gitter-mitter crowd?

    That guy who published “100 Pakistanis” in these archives?


    We simply do not have a culture of numeracy. We don’t use enough data to engage in a constructive national public discourse about any of the major issues confronting Pakistan and its future.


    This one I agree. Because we are working with bad numbers!

    The number of schools on paper. The number of people stealing from nation’s treasure. The amount of wealth outside the nation. And I can go on and on and on. We know the picture.

    The numbers that are being presented is an insult to the nation. And only the numbers that add up in taxation are being presented to the nation. And this is nothing new. The godfather of this process was a man named Liaqat.

    About time, we should all walk with our own soap boxes and start talking. Anyone listening?

    I would talk, talk, talk till the cows come home. That would save Pakistan from all this mayhem and death and destruction.

    People are resorting to violence because they cannot talk! This should change (read: stop). People should be heard. If it makes the gitter-mitter crowd uncomfortable, so be it. Gitter-mitter are the cause of the problem. They are the ones who should find the solution. And start the fix.

    …No, no, no…


    In need of anger management?

    making Bhutto-esque speeches during question hours at serious conferences.

    Ah, but there was only one and only ZAB, and if people want to follow a good example, give them a soap box!

    Good people will emerge. It is only natural. And also because, Pakistanis are good, decent, hard working and honest people.

    Elementary my dear, Watson.

  5. I know what you’re saying. I have seen people bang cars into people on bikes just for same hurry, same irrational approach, and same sense of self entitlement.

    I believe, the solution lies in

    1) Taming down our media, request them not to publicize violence, request them to show programs that can bring about some sense of harmony by showing the “better and moderate side of Pakistan”

    2) Tame down ourselves, telling us Pakistan is here to stay, and we’re here to stay, and we owe our country and our people a great deal of respect and appreciation.

    3) Follow the religion in its meanings, and submit to Allah for better results

    4) Get honest to our jobs, our shops. Start charging reasonable profits , and forget about luxuries for a while. I am amazed to see why Bangadesh is doing better than Pakistan since few years, and India is doing even better, so we’re also good guys, why cant we do good? We owe ourselves a promise of prosperity with honesty, and just decline to be rich over night.

    5) Vote sensibly in next elections, not for the people who can get our sons a few jobs, but for the people who have never comitted corruption of any kind (monetary, moral, or otherwise) , be it a school teacher, a janitor, or anyone. Honest people will deliver honest results.

    Anyone with any sorts of criminal records must not be able to participate, not even the ones that even went to courts once in their life times on any allegations.
    I think, if we do all of the above, we can atleast get rid of some of our basic problems.