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US Confederate Flag in Pakistan

Posted on August 30, 2007
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The Confederate Battle Flag (commonly called the Southern Cross) was first designed during the American Civil War (in 1861) by the Army of Northern Virginia. The 13 stars on the flag symbolize the original 11 US confederate states plus Kentucky and Missouri. 146 years later, the flag has found a new home. It is being used as decoration in a village fruit shop outside Islamabad. Wonder if the shopkeeper knows about the flag?

Photo is courtesy of Aurangzeb Khan

19 Comments on “US Confederate Flag in Pakistan”

  1. Ali Choudhury says:
    August 30th, 2007 1:14 pm

    Maybe he’s a Dukes of Hazard fan?

  2. iFaqeer says:
    August 30th, 2007 4:38 pm

    Hey! He’s from the other side of the tracks, so to speak, but the Pittsburgh Steelers helmet decal used to be a favourite with our well-heeled crowd, too–I never got a feel for how many of them could even name the team…

  3. D_a_n says:
    August 30th, 2007 5:23 pm

    hehe….great photo!
    who says were anti american… :)

    I think its time to introduce a Pakistani character in ‘King of the Hill’ just like the simpsons has its ‘Apu’ ….

  4. Billy Bearden says:
    August 30th, 2007 7:37 pm

    Perhaps he is in Southern Pakistan? Perhaps he is making the statement that he disagrees with a over-powerful and meddlesome Central Government that taxes it’s citizens into the poor house? Perhaps his favorite American Football team is the Ol Miss Rebels?
    Long may it wave!

  5. Eidee Man says:
    August 30th, 2007 9:33 pm

    This is almost as absurd as having Mickey Mouse on the Pakistani flag.

  6. Babar says:
    August 30th, 2007 11:50 pm

    Fits right in with the colorful fruit!

  7. Khalid R Hasan says:
    August 31st, 2007 2:07 am

    I always thought the “Southern Cross” referred to the stars on the Australian flag , as this constellation is only visible in the Southern hemisphere

  8. hira khan says:
    August 31st, 2007 9:40 am

    if he knew ..i m sure he would have used more of em…their living standards clearly indicate what the country has to offer them…leaving no place for loyalty…

  9. D. A. Anthony says:
    August 31st, 2007 8:54 pm

    Mr. Hasan, you are, of course, correct in stating that the “Southern Cross” is the name of the constellation depicted on the Australian flag, but for us American Southerners, the Confederate battleflag (depicted in the photo above) is also known as the “Southern Cross.”

    The reason for this is because the Confederate battleflag adopted the design of the St. Andrew’s cross, which is also depicted on the flag of Scotland, since St. Andrew is the patron saint of Scotland. When St. Andrew was martyred, he requested that he be crucified on a cross different from that upon which Jesus was crucified, because St. Andrew did not believe he was worthy to die in the same manner as Jesus. Since the X-shaped insignia on the flag represents the shape of the cross upon which St. Andrew was crucified, and is used on a flag associated with American Southern history, we here in the South also refer to the Confederate battleflag design as the “Southern Cross.”

  10. Owais Mughal says:
    August 31st, 2007 11:37 pm

    The reason I chose this photo post is bcause I couldn’t fathom how could this flag land in a Pakistani village :) But once it is there then it is easy to understand why is it being used as decoration. Because it looks colorful and villagers will use anything colorful to decorate their assets. Reason: To attract customers e.g. look how colorful are pakistani trucks, buses, rickshaws etc.

  11. Eagle Feather of the Cherokee Nation says:
    September 24th, 2007 7:46 pm

    The Confederate Battle Flag represents all Southern, and even Northern, Confederates regardless of race or religion and is the symbol of less government, less taxes, and the right of the people to govern themselves. It is flown in memory and honor of our Confederate ancestors and veterans who willingly shed their blood for Southern independence.

    Deo Vindice
    – Eagle Feather

  12. Eagle Feather of the Cherokee Nation says:
    September 24th, 2007 7:50 pm

    A Short History Lesson

    Just as the War for American Independence of 1776, the War for Southern Independence of 1861 was fought over “taxation without representation.” The North was constantly trying to raise taxes on Southerners through high tariffs on imported goods in order to protect the inefficient big businesses in the North. These big businesses could not compete with manufactured goods from England and France with whom the South traded cotton. The South did not have factories and had to import most finished products.

    The Industrial Revolution allowed England and France to produce and ship across the Atlantic products that were cheaper than the products of Northern manufacturers.

    When Lincoln was elected President, he and the U.S. Congress immediately passed the Morrill Tariff (the highest import tax in U.S. history), more than doubling the import tax rate from 20% to 47%. This tax served to bankrupt many Southerners. Though the Southern states represented only about 30% of the U.S. population, they paid 80% of the tariffs collected. Oppressive taxes, denial of the states’ rights to govern their states, and an unrepresentative federal government pushed the Southern states to legally withdraw from the Union.

    Since the Southerners had escaped the tax by withdrawing from the Union, the only way the North could collect this oppressive tax was to invade the Confederate States and force them at gunpoint back into the Union.

    It was to collect this import tax to satisfy his Northern industrialist supporters that Abraham Lincoln invaded our South. Slavery was not the issue. Lincoln’s war cost the lives of 600,000 Americans.

    The truth about the Confederate Flag is that it has nothing to do with racism or hate. The Civil War was not fought over slavery or racism.

  13. November 16th, 2007 10:54 am

    Does anyone know if there’s anything more to this? Maybe this humble shopkeeper is an opponent of Musharraf? Are there any Pakistanis who understand the old Southern Confederacy and favor it, as a model of resistance to centralized tyranny?
    I know nothing about Musharraf or Pakistan’s politics, but I see the neocons’ love for Lincoln is rubbing off in some strange ways. Take a look at Musharraf’s praise for the world’s most evil anti-Confederate, President Lincoln: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-cSj-V_II8.
    Please email me privately ManningT@rqasc.com.
    Tim

  14. November 30th, 2007 9:28 am

    I wonder what that shopkeeper thinks of this?: http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/musharraf-and-lincoln-in-their-own-words/
    If anyone knows, please let me know.

  15. AsHlEy says:
    November 6th, 2008 12:54 pm

    The person who wrote this apparently has never gotten a history lesson on this flag so he automatically listens to what YANKEES say about it, so he thinks that it is a bad thing! No that shoekeeper should not have that flag, not because it is a bad thing to have, but because he does not know what it stands for, what it means, or how many men lost their lives fighting for the South. Hmm.. yeahh i wonder if he knows that!! Hell, did you?

  16. MAC says:
    January 23rd, 2009 3:23 pm

    Maybe he understands that the Confederate Battle Flag, with its Cross of St. Andrews, is known worldwide that it represents Independence!

  17. November 8th, 2010 1:34 am

    Well am surprised why this shopkeeper do this.anyways all of above its a great article and increase my knowledge

  18. November 8th, 2010 1:35 am

    Well am surprised why this shopkeeper do this.anyways all of above its a great article and increase my knowledge Confederate Battle Flag

  19. June 17th, 2011 4:19 am

    the shop keeper will be putting it any where because he does not know which country’s flag is this if he would have known he would have

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