Pakistani University Rankings

Posted on October 5, 2006
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Higher Education Commission (HEC) of Pakistan has recently released the university rankings of Pakistan. The rankings are generating so much interest that I am receiving four to five emails daily with people forwarding me the same link to HEC’s ranking web page. (Scroll down to see rankings and details).

I am kind of disappointed with my alma-mater, NED University of Engineering and Technology Karachi, ranked at number 10 out of the 13 Engineering Universities of Pakistan. The photo to the right-below shows few views of NED University.

I genuinely and of course with a little bias think that NED university should have been ranked among the top 3. When I make such claim; I do it on the basis of sheer engineering talent I’ve personally seen at NED. But rankings do not take into account the student talent. They look at finances, faculty, number of students etc. My university mates as well as the university officials have already started the discussion on how to improve the rankings next year. This discussion is going on at many NED online alumni groups. I am sure similar discussions are going on within other university alumni too. This I think, is a positive sign of publishing a list like this as it does create competition.


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Here are the key leaders in the ranking:

Agriculture / Veterinary

1. University of Agriculture (UAF), Faisalabad
2. NWFP University of Agriculture , Peshawar
3. University of Arid Agriculture, Rawalpindi
4. Sindh Agriculture University, Tandojam

Art / Design
1. National College of Arts, Lahore
2. Textile Institute of Pakistan, Karachi
3. Indus Valley School of Art & Architecture, Karachi

Business / I.T.
1. Lahore Uni. of Management Sciences (LUMS), Lahore
2. Institute of Business Administration (IBA), Karachi
3. Shaheed Zulfikar Ali Bhutto Institute of Sci. & Tech. Karachi
4. Iqra University, Defence View, Karachi
5. Lahore School of Economics (LSE) , Lahore
6. Institute of Business Management (IBM), Karachi

Engineering
1. Pakistan Institute of Engg. and Applied Sciences, Islamabad
2. National University of Sciences & Technology Rawalpindi
3. Ghulam Ishaq Khan Institute of Engineering, Swabi
4. University of Engg. & Technology (UET), Lahore
5. Mehran University of Engg. & Technology (MUET), Jamshoro
6. University of Engg. & Technology (UET), Taxila

General
1. Quaid-i-Azam University (QAU), Islamabad
2. University of the Punjab, Lahore
3. University of Karachi, Karachi
4. University of Peshawar, Peshawar
5. Bahauddin Zakariya University, Multan
6. Government College Lahore University, Lahore

Health Sciences
1. Aga Khan University, Karachi
2. Liaquat University of Medical and Health Sciences, Jamshoro
3. Baqai Medical University, Karachi
4. Zia-ud-din Medical University, Karachi

You can have a look at the complete rankings, including the scores, the criteria and the methodology of scoring here. I would like to hear your opinion.

ATP’s another post related to University Education and rankings system can be seen here.

973 Comments on “Pakistani University Rankings”

  1. October 5th, 2006 12:28 am

    Owais few days back I emailed to Adil bhai with some links about same issue. NED did react back strongly. Dr. Shamsul Haq and Dr.NOman wrote a lengthy article on last Sunday’s dawn.

    You can get all links from Adil bhai via Email.

  2. shirazi says:
    October 5th, 2006 2:12 am

    But why are all private sector universities doing far better than all public sector universities; no exception whatsoever?

  3. ayesha says:
    October 5th, 2006 2:24 am

    I was somewhat surprised by these rankings as well. NED was the big surprise and then I was also surprised to learn that FAST Islamabad campus was included in the rankings above the Lahore one. As far as my understanding goes, the Lahore campus is the best one for the university.

    Moreover, I found the ranking system somewhat weird. Look at the ranking criteria they underlined under the heading of “student”. Do they mean the number of students who graduate from the lot that is inducted by the institute? Or is it the number of students produced by the institute vis-a-vis the complete pool of students nationally?! But what about the the quality of students produced? Is that not taken into account at all?

    Secondly, what about premier places like KEMC? A top medical school, yet it does not even fare in the rankings – simply because it has not been accorded the status of a university? The eligibility criteria needs to be rethought.

    But having said all that, it is a commendable effort. It just needs to be fine tuned.

  4. Farrukh says:
    October 5th, 2006 5:14 am

    Rankings are a very good idea. Even if they are slightlly wrong – they nearly always are – they allow institutions to know what to shoot for when the methodology is open.

    To argue that NED should be higher you nneed to make a case not only that it is good but that those above it are worse. And how would one make that case. Rankings are supposed to be in points of time. Not over time. At THIS POINT this is the ranking. It should NOT take into account students it produced in the past. I am sure other institutions also produced good students.

  5. Yahya says:
    October 5th, 2006 8:46 am

    [quote comment="3719"]Look at the ranking criteria they underlined under the heading of “student”. Do they mean the number of students who graduate from the lot that is inducted by the institute? Or is it the number of students produced by the institute vis-a-vis the complete pool of students nationally?! But what about the the quality of students produced? Is that not taken into account at all?

    Secondly, what about premier places like KEMC? A top medical school, yet it does not even fare in the rankings – simply because it has not been accorded the status of a university? [/quote]

    My concerns too. If we consider total student pool then unis like PU have a big advantage for issuing degrees in masses for zillions of years.

    Re KEMC, HEC says (and I confirmed) it is not in the list as it only got chartered after 2001. Once such institutions come “online” there would be another upheaval. Perhaps a few more surprises like NED. Is KE better or Agha khan? ;)

  6. Sohail says:
    October 5th, 2006 8:57 am

    On the student ranking, if you look at teh details on the page it is quite clear that, no, places liek PU will not have an advantage because of what you say. The 17 points reserved for student are further distributed as follows:

    Student produced having 16 years of education (2)
    Student produced having M.Phil/16 + years of education (3)
    Number of Ph.D. Produced (4)
    Student Selectivity (5)
    % of students getting admission having 60% and above marks (3)

    The last two are clearly about student quality. The first focusses only on ‘university’ eductaion, so even a BA degree will not count. And number 2 and 3 focus on research aspects, which is what universities are for.

    The methodology section is very good because of the openness and transparency. Well done HEC.

  7. Yahya says:
    October 5th, 2006 9:33 am

    [quote comment="3713"]Owais few days back I emailed to Adil bhai with some links about same issue. NED did react back strongly. Dr. Shamsul Haq and Dr.NOman wrote a lengthy article on last Sunday’s dawn.[/quote]

    Link????

  8. October 5th, 2006 9:55 am

    Owais,
    All my siblings studied at NED, and only the youngest has recently moved to KU for his Ph.D. work. So I can tend to have a natural bias as well.
    But I think this discussion could also focus a bit on the general state of higher education in Pakistan, and how deplorable it is despite the sheer talent in students that pass through them. I have had the privilege of visiting a few departments in Pakistani universities, and I have been utterly disappointed at the lack of motivation (or even ability) in the faculty’s ability to teach and/or conduct research. Infact, a group of us have already proposed to HEC to establish a faculty training academy which essentially re-teaches undergraduate level stuff to all the existing faculty. It is unfortunate that most faculty in Pakistan (and I stress, not all) don’t even know their basic subject matter as well as a good undergraduate student in their fields from good universities in the US or Europe or Japan would. I know people who studied at NED and are doing terrifically well, but its probbaly because they were geniuses themselves, not because their institutions developed them.

  9. Owais Mughal says:
    October 5th, 2006 10:30 am

    Dear Farrukh. You are right. A case needs to be made if I think NED is better than others. I also admit that I am a bit biased towards NED because I studied there.

  10. ayesha says:
    October 5th, 2006 12:23 pm

    [quote post="341"]The last two are clearly about student quality. The first focusses only on ‘university’ eductaion, so even a BA degree will not count. And number 2 and 3 focus on research aspects, which is what universities are for.[/quote]

    No, it is still not about student quality. Would a PhD produced from say LUMS or GIKI not have more value than one from PU?

    Case in point: a few months ago a few professors from the PU faculty were charged for plagiarism at an international conference. If this the sort of supervisors and atmosphere you work then what sort of product would you churn out? My point still holds – the criterion is just looking at it quantitatively, not qualitatively.

  11. TURAB says:
    October 5th, 2006 2:25 pm

    NED, and DMC should be there somewhere

  12. Yahya says:
    October 5th, 2006 2:40 pm

    How come there are 3, 4 or 6 in each list? Why not say top ten in each list?

  13. Eidee Man says:
    October 5th, 2006 3:43 pm

    I agree with Bilal on this issue. Pakistan has a handful of good schools but the fact is that most of the top institutions are considered good because their students are much more resourceful than the general population.

  14. Eidee Man says:
    October 5th, 2006 3:44 pm

    In other news, Younis Khan seems to have re-ignited the fires of controversy in the Pakistan cricket camp.

  15. Mariam says:
    October 6th, 2006 12:01 am

    Since you guys are talking about NED. Can I ask a question why not many NEDians make their way to foreign universities in the west? Pakistan is sending most students from Punjab and Islamabad. Last I heard Karachi still holds top most position in literacy rate then why we are not seeing that representation in the west. I hope its not low standard of education…

  16. Yahya says:
    October 6th, 2006 1:51 am

    [quote comment="3778"]Since you guys are talking about NED. Can I ask a question why not many NEDians make their way to foreign universities in the west? Pakistan is sending most students from Punjab and Islamabad. Last I heard Karachi still holds top most position in literacy rate then why we are not seeing that representation in the west. I hope its not low standard of education…[/quote]

    My two nephews who came to UK after graduating from UET Lahore say all (I guess they mean most) of their fellow Pakistani students in UK are from Karachi. So I guess some are definitely coming to west.

    How do you come to the conclusion on the literacy rate? I suppose Islamabad should be the highest.

  17. Mariam says:
    October 6th, 2006 2:02 am

    [quote post="341"]of their fellow Pakistani students in UK are from Karachi.[/quote]

    Not the case in the US.

    [quote post="341"]How do you come to the conclusion on the literacy rate? I suppose Islamabad should be the highest.[/quote]

    From the number of Universities and Colleges in the city. But boy I was wrong. Yes, indeed it is Islamabad and then Rwalpindi and Karachi is in third place.

  18. HJ says:
    October 6th, 2006 7:05 am

    Indeed, it is a surprise to see that NED and Dow are not ranked better. Either the standard has really collapsed or there is something weird about the survey.

    Nevertheless, I think it’s important to see things in a wider perspective. Ranking universities in Pakistan helps no one – not the students for sure given how the admission system for state-owned universities work.

    The Times Higher Education Survey published this week shows no Pakistani universities in the world’s top 200 – and only a handful from South Asia.

    The only from South Asia are the Indian Institute Of Technology – ranked 50th in the world and 14th in universities ex-US and Europe. The Indian Institute of Management ranks 24th in the world and 84th overall.

    The IIT is also ranked 36th among the world’s top science universities and THIRD among top global technology universities (IIM is 69th in this catagory).

    Among the world’s top non-university science and technology institutions – none from South Asia, or Asia overall for that matter.

    World’s top arts and humanities universities: None from Pakistan; Calcutta University (39th), Delhi University (87). For perspective, the elite Beijing University is the top Asian school, ranked 6th behind Harvard, Oxford, Cambridge, Berkeley and Yale.

    Social sciences: Surprise! Surprise! Something called the Lahore University (I presume LUMS???) flies the flag – at No. 61. India has four. Top Asian – National University of Singapore at 13.

    Perspective.

    HJ

  19. Yahya says:
    October 6th, 2006 7:13 am

    [quote comment="3795"]Indeed, it is a surprise to see that NED and Dow are not ranked better. Either the standard has really collapsed or there is something weird about the survey.
    [/quote]

    Again the question is not if NED and Dow good but where they stand compared to other institutions.

  20. October 6th, 2006 10:37 am

    dear Yahya,visit following 2 links

    NED Clarfication

    Lower Expectations

    p.s: Adil bhai why doesn’t preview of the post doesn’t work anymore? please enable it.

  21. Khalid R Hasan says:
    October 6th, 2006 11:07 am

    I endorse Bilal Zuberi’s point about quality. Having studied and qualified as a civil engineer at Imperial College in the UK I don’t have any bias. The best students from NED or indeed anywhere else are going to be good regardless, but the test of a university is how well it benefits the average student. I have interviewed first class graduates who couldn’t draw a bending moment diagram for a point load on a simply supported beam (this is like 2 2=4 for an engineer) and this left me with a very poor impression. That said, graduates of NED generally come across as better than those from Mehran at Jamshoro though the rankings suggest the opposite.

  22. Trekker says:
    October 6th, 2006 11:15 am

    Their lumping Business with IT was mighty strange. And if by IT they mean Computer Science then that is not really valid.

  23. iFaqeer says:
    October 6th, 2006 1:06 pm

    Let me say this. I am an NEDian. I am one of those people who have for over a decade tried to start serious NED Alumni activities. [See http://pakistan.wikia.com/wiki/NED_Alumni –and please, people from other institutions, please help build http://pakistan.wikia.com/wiki/Alumni_Groups , but I digress.)

    But if anyone thinks NED *deserves* a better place, I am sorry, but an Ostrich comes to mind.

    And the funny thing is, NED’s standards have *IMPROVED*, at least since I was there (Batch ’87-88, the first of the annual system). But the fact is that the spanner Bhutto Saahab threw into our works with nationalization is finally being overcome and lots of private institutions have come up and ALL are better in hard, objective quality than NED.

    I am not saying I hate NED. I love the community of NEDians, at the very least. I am very, very proud of my friends and colleagues. My own CTO is an NEDian. You can say that an NED graduate is as good as they come and anyone would do well to hire or admit an NEDian any day of the week. And the reason for NED’s being what it is could be debated ad nauseum. Is it the sauthayla sulook that it is faced with; is it to be found in the argument that Karachi gets the dregs in terms of the national pie. I don’t know. But let’s keep it real, call a spade a spade and try to fix the problems. Let’s not try to gloss over it. Tough love and all that, what?

  24. Sridhar says:
    October 6th, 2006 1:19 pm

    The Times Higher Education survey also uses criteria that make it hard for South Asian universities to compete. For instance, two of the important parameters are foreign faculty and foreign students, where these institutions naturally rank very low.

    Also, the IITs are lumped together – there are currently six of them and they are independent of each other, though they use a common brand name. The same with the IIMs – of which there are again six currently. IIT-Kanpur or IIT-Chennai are a world apart from IIT-Guwahati. And IIM-Ahmedabad and IIM-Kozhikode are simply not comparable (primarily because IIT-Guwahati and IIM-Kozhikode are new institutions, still in their growth phase).

    And then, any survey that leaves out the very best higher educational institution in India – the Indian Institute of Science (with a stronger heritage and a better record than either the IITs or IIMs) is flawed to begin with. It is the only institution, apart from the Delhi School of Economics that has had a Nobel Prize winner on its faculty. (IISc had the Physics Nobel winner C.V.Raman on its faculty and Delhi School of Economics’ most famous emeritus is the economics Nobel winner – Amartya Sen)

    I suspect there are similar issues with the way the Pakistani universities have been ranked. I would have expected to see LUMS in the list of top institutions, though I doubt, based on whatever I know, that any other institution deserves to be in the top 200 of the world. It is an omission that is hard to understand.

    But the wider point is very much valid. Apart from a handful of elite institutions (IISc, IITs, IIMs and Delhi School of Economics in India and LUMS in Pakistan), none of the institutions of higher education in the subcontinent really compare with the best institutions elsewhere in the world. Their research output is minimal. Politics have ruined the formerly great Universities like the ones in Allahabad and Lahore. The students from institutions other than these elite institutions might do well, but largely because of their own talents and efforts. A good teacher here and a decent class there does not make a great institution.

  25. Adnan Ahmad says:
    October 6th, 2006 1:57 pm

    Folks, How about the idea of linking existing universities with the ones in the developed world, America to be specific. Help can be sought from universities willing to help. I am a great admirer of American liberal arts school of teaching where regardless of your major you have to take core courses in philosophy, art, literature, history, etc. for they complete the college education experience. And then of course there is the culture of research in grad schools; how it is conducted by the faculty and the students. In my opinion a below average school down south, lets say Alabama is still better than most in Europe and Australia. (On a tangent, this years Nobel winners should also indicate which country HEC should turn for help). It sounds good (and indeed it is a sound byte) when HEC minister says that help is being sought from France, Japan, Austria etc. for new institutions but how about the existing ones. And what would they end up with w/ so many different styles of education.

    Sridhar, Pakistan may have had more than a handful of good schools had they not been nationalized in the 70s. That one stroke of pen did more damage to pakistan than everything else combined.

  26. Owais Mughal says:
    October 6th, 2006 1:59 pm

    Good analysis, Sridhar.

  27. Owais Mughal says:
    October 6th, 2006 2:09 pm

    An interesting point for me is NUST is now above GIK among Engineering Universities. GIK was established as a de-facto center of excellence but it has fallen down to # 3.

  28. Yahya says:
    October 6th, 2006 3:04 pm

    NUST H12 Master Plan; http://www.nust.edu.pk/images/NUST MASTER PLAN NewII.jpg [NUST H12 Master Plan;

    (http://www.nust.edu.pk/images/NUST%20MASTER%20PLAN%20NewII.jpg)

    A university with a golf course. That’s a first in Pakistan?

    Eat your heart out UET, NED, Giki.

  29. MQ says:
    October 6th, 2006 7:25 pm

    This post and the comments led me to look up the HEC website for the first time, which in turn made me look up all the ‘chartered’ universities in Pakistan. Much more than their number (which seems to have increased many folds in the past 5-10 years) what struck me was the names of some these institutions of higher learning. Strange names, some of them, and curious descriptions of their visions and other details.

    There is Superior University in Lahore whose website boasts: “Getting chartered by the Government of Punjab as Degree Awarding Institute is a unique honor for Superior University. Several other institutions had applied for the same status but are struggling since long. Superior infrastructure attracted and satisfied the Punjab Government Higher Education Department as per their standards and requirements and finally we got it (Alhamdulillah).”

    Then there is a Preston University in Kohat. Apparently there is no such person as Mr. Preston associated with the university in any capacity. They just picked up the name, it seems, from the basket. Is it because it sounds like Princeton?

    Then there is NICE University. The acronym stands for Newports or Newport (the website uses both) Institute of Communications and Economics. What’s its connection with Newport, anywhere, one can’t figure out.

    Then we have University of East in Hyderabad! (Go figure it out for yourself.)

    We also have Air University in Islamabad. In Urdu it would probably translate into Hawaii University?

    And then we have this university called GIFT that boasts to be the only university between Lahore and Islamabad. GIFT stands for — alvipervaiz would like this — Gujranwala Institute of Future Technologies. According to the website the university was conceived by Mr. Muhammad Anwar Dar and “The ground-breaking ceremony of the campus was performed by an eminent personality of Gujranwala Haji Aziz-ur-Rehman on 11th August 2001.” The university’s boast of being the only the university between Lahore and Islamabad, however, turns out to be false because, according to the HEC list, there is also a University of Gujrat barely 60 or 70 miles up the road.

  30. Sridhar says:
    October 6th, 2006 7:53 pm

    How many universities are there in Pakistan? Is the university system in Pakistan like the one in England (that India inherited and continues to follow) i.e. of universities as primarily post-graduate institutions (masters/doctoral studies) with undergraduate education provided by affiliated colleges*? Or is it like the American system, where universities are non-affiliating, self-contained institutions comprising all levels from undergraduation to doctoral studies.

    Has there been an increase in the number of universities in recent days?

    Are universities primarily in the state sector or in the private sector? A related question is whether Govt. sector or private sector institutions are considered better?

    What is the basis for admissions at these institutes?

    Sridhar

    ——————–

    *The exceptions in India are the specialized technical institutes like the IITs and a few other engineering-oriented institutions which are given the status of ‘deemed’ universities and have undergraduate studies, but cannot affiliate colleges. There are also two other pre-independence exceptions that follow the American system- the Aligarh Muslim University and Benaras Hindu University.

  31. Adnan Ahmad says:
    October 7th, 2006 11:38 am

    MQ, That was good! :) Superior university stands out in your list. :):)

  32. MQ says:
    October 7th, 2006 4:27 pm

    Adnan,

    There is one more university in Peshawar with the name CECOS University, which boasts of both “in-land” and overseas campuses. I tried to figure out what the acronym CECOS stood for but could not find any explanation in the write-up except that at places the name is further abbreviated to CU, which again means CECOS University.

    CECOS’ vision, typed in a font size 4 or even smaller, reads as follows (I have abridged it):

    [quote]“Since last 16 years, we are in tune with education …Founded on the richness of conversation (sic) and the power of collaboration, our vibrant community is sustained through the practice of … The student’s exchange with the facility (sic) is open and energizing, their interaction with colleagues engaging and dynamic. .. They are inspired to think more strategically and analyze more critically. And at the same time, they contribute to the growth of their peers through discussions and teaming.” [quote ]

    The unabridged version is heavily cliched and sonorous, and is guaranteed to put even a chronic insomniac to sleep.

  33. October 8th, 2006 12:26 am

    MQ, thanks for that comment. I had noticed these funny sounding names in the past but did not make the connection between them and a general trend in naming of Pakistani universities.
    I also looked up NUST’s website. Which major university have they not listed on their website in an international linkage? Is that what brings it credibility and distinction? Could they list a few research papers that their international collaborations may have generated? Unfortunately I am too used to seeing Pakistani university administrators, career bureaucrats, and politicians floating around the halls of MIT (and similar institutions) looking for some way of getting their endorsement. They come and go, with no meaningful change happening at the ground level. HEC folks are trying to help, but they have a very long way to go.

  34. Iftikhan Hassan says:
    October 8th, 2006 12:54 am

    Prof. Najam, I seem to recall that you had something to do with designing this new rating system and working with HEC? No?

  35. MQ says:
    October 8th, 2006 8:32 am

    My earlier comments on the topic were in a lighter vein. On a serious note, ranking is an American thing. And Americans are pretty good at it. They rank their colleges and universities every year and the rankings are widely published.

    Ranking is a good thing. It helps the colleges to be competitive and improve and also helps the students and faculty to choose from. Those of you who work in the academia in the US would be familiar with the criteria used in ranking colleges/universities, which generally takes the following factors into account:

    1. Academic Reputation: Each university is asked to rate its peers (excluding itself) on a scale of 1 to 5 (1 being the lowest and 5 the highest). The total score is divided by the number of responses.

    2. Student Selectivity: is derived from the number of first year student accepted compared to total numbers of student applied and their scores in the entrance tests. In other words, the smarter the students the better for the college/university.

    3. Faculty Resources: is derived from the number of teachers and researchers with Ph.Ds and Master’s degrees and their salaries and benefits. In other words more qualified and better paid the teachers and researchers the better for the university.

    4. Research: is derived from citations in academic journals, papers presented in international conferences, published books, research funding etc.

    5. Financial Resources: is derived from 1) total spending per student, 2) library spending per student, 3) Internet bandwidth and 4) public computers and connection points, 4) laboratory spending is added for science and technology schools.

    As suggested earlier on this thread, HEC will be better off by following the American system. After all, America has the best higher education system in the world. Out of the 20 top universities in the world, according to the ranking done by London Economist last year, 17 are in the US. The other three are Cambridge, Oxford and Tokyo.

  36. 5000 says:
    October 8th, 2006 3:58 pm

    [quote comment="3755"]NED, and DMC should be there somewhere[/quote]
    i guess they are your alma matter

  37. 5000 says:
    October 8th, 2006 4:02 pm

    [quote comment="3832"]This post and the comments led me to look up the HEC website for the first time, which in turn made me look up all the ‘chartered’ universities in Pakistan. Much more than their number (which seems to have increased many folds in the past 5-10 years) what struck me was the names of some these institutions of higher learning. Strange names, some of them, and curious descriptions of their visions and other details.

    There is Superior University in Lahore whose website boasts: “Getting chartered by the Government of Punjab as Degree Awarding Institute is a unique honor for Superior University. Several other institutions had applied for the same status but are struggling since long. Superior infrastructure attracted and satisfied the Punjab Government Higher Education Department as per their standards and requirements and finally we got it (Alhamdulillah).”

    Then there is a Preston University in Kohat. Apparently there is no such person as Mr. Preston associated with the university in any capacity. They just picked up the name, it seems, from the basket. Is it because it sounds like Princeton?

    Then there is NICE University. The acronym stands for Newports or Newport (the website uses both) Institute of Communications and Economics. What’s its connection with Newport, anywhere, one can’t figure out.

    Then we have University of East in Hyderabad! (Go figure it out for yourself.)

    We also have Air University in Islamabad. In Urdu it would probably translate into Hawaii University?

    And then we have this university called GIFT that boasts to be the only university between Lahore and Islamabad. GIFT stands for — alvipervaiz would like this — Gujranwala Institute of Future Technologies. According to the website the university was conceived by Mr. Muhammad Anwar Dar and “The ground-breaking ceremony of the campus was performed by an eminent personality of Gujranwala Haji Aziz-ur-Rehman on 11th August 2001.” The university’s boast of being the only the university between Lahore and Islamabad, however, turns out to be false because, according to the HEC list, there is also a University of Gujrat barely 60 or 70 miles up the road.[/quote]

    i wonder what you are on about……….

    why dont you pick western universities such as

    Kings College (badasah in urdu)

    Imperial (does that mean representing imperialism)

    Queens (malika)

    etc

    etc

    you have to become positive and not negative.

    Good LUCK.

  38. 5000 says:
    October 8th, 2006 4:05 pm

    [quote comment="3823"]NUST H12 Master Plan; http://www.nust.edu.pk/images/NUST MASTER PLAN NewII.jpg [NUST H12 Master Plan;

    (http://www.nust.edu.pk/images/NUST MASTER PLAN NewII.jpg)

    A university with a golf course. That's a first in Pakistan?

    Eat your heart out UET, NED, Giki.[/quote]

    ok…..we will………but hope u have a nice time lawn mowing golf courses when u grow up

  39. 5000 says:
    October 8th, 2006 4:09 pm

    [quote comment="3819"]An interesting point for me is NUST is now above GIK among Engineering Universities. GIK was established as a de-facto center of excellence but it has fallen down to # 3.[/quote]

    it the same story in pakistan…….over and over again……..

    starting and then falling in a free fall

  40. Yahya says:
    October 8th, 2006 4:43 pm

    [quote comment="3912"]
    it the same story in pakistan…….over and over again……..

    starting and then falling in a free fall[/quote]

    or it could be, GIK is where it was and NUST prospered. Its all relative as you know.

    Note that NUST is a military establishment (two swords in the emblem) and they would have nothing but the best. As far as I can see, until its H12 campus is ready (when?), NUST consists of a bunch of colleges, mostly of military nature, spread across the nation. These colleges were one presumes already well funded but since the NUST initiative they must have had a big boost in funding and that may be the result of better ranking.

  41. MQ says:
    October 8th, 2006 5:01 pm

    [quote]why dont you pick western universities such as King’s College (badasah in urdu),

    Imperial(does that mean representing imperialism),

    Queens (malika)?[/quote]

    Well, my friend 5000, It just so happened that there was a King and Queen in England for whom the colleges were named. Just as Kind Edwarde Medical College in Lahore and Edwarde’s College Peshawar were named after the King at that time.

    Incidentally, our Badshahi mosque is so named because it was built by a king, which is understandable.

  42. Rana Asim says:
    October 8th, 2006 7:23 pm

    these ranking make me proud because my father(Prof.Dr.Rana Abdul Wajid) last year retired from Bahauddin Zakariya University after 29 years of service and is currently the Director of Center for Statistics at Lahore School of Economics (LSE) :-)

  43. Yahya says:
    October 8th, 2006 7:43 pm

    Well I am no less proud. My Uni QAU is right up there.

  44. Owais Mughal says:
    October 8th, 2006 10:34 pm

    Dear 5000
    Dow and NED cannot (or atleast very difficult to) be same person’s alma mater. One is an engineering university and the other is a medical university

  45. Owais Mughal says:
    October 8th, 2006 10:40 pm

    I think it is natural that all those whose universities ended up in top 5 call it a very fair ranking system and those at lower ranks call it unfair or what we call in Urdu as: ‘ANgoor khaTTay haiN’. This is human psychology. But as I said in the article above, the positive thing about this list is that it creates competition and I am sure next year universities will try to do better to improve on their rankings.

  46. Daktar says:
    October 8th, 2006 10:51 pm

    I find at least some of this funny. So those of you who are proud of your university because it comes at top, would you NOT be proud if it did not? And those of you whose univeristies are not in the top, are you no longer proud of your alma matter. Should’nt your pride be based on your experience and your attachment rather than some ranking. Isn’t it a little shallow to take these so seriously?

  47. BhindiGosht says:
    October 8th, 2006 11:38 pm

    I am a Dowite, and I can say with a great degree of confidence that DOW should definitely not be in the top 5. The classes and teachers who had any influence on my future development as a physician can be counted on the fingers of one hand…. and this in 5 years!
    AKU is by far the best institution in health sciences. Their graduates are well-rounded and well-trained. And surprise, surprise, can even put together a coherent resume. This is not to say that DOW graduates have not done well for themselves; but if they have, it speaks more for them than their university.
    In fact, more than medical stuff, I remember slogans from my DOW days. My favorite was:

    na surkh hai, na sabz hai
    asia ko qabz hai

  48. Owais Mughal says:
    October 10th, 2006 1:40 pm

    A good friend of mine has forwarded me this thought provoking article from Jang. It is about HEC: here

  49. Riaz Merchant says:
    October 10th, 2006 2:56 pm

    A fundamental question here: is a university defined by its facilities or the quality of student it attracts or graduates?

    In the US, top universities provide the best facilities to attract the best students however in the case of a country like Pakistan, that is not always true. For example, going back to the 80’s, NED was the ONLY option for most of the top class students of Karachi whose parents couldn’t afford a foreign education for their children. The facilities were not existent but we had great students who have gone on to achieve success professionally all over the world. A university does not make an average student smarter but it does provide the tools for a smart student to shine and do great things.

    So if GIK was set up to be a “center of excellenceâ€

  50. iFaqeer says:
    October 10th, 2006 3:31 pm

    Good comments, Riaz M. And nice to see you here.

    In following what I said above, Saad Mufti adds:

    I always felt NEDians prospered despite NED, not because of it. The only credit I wouold give NED would be for providing the opportunity to be around other NEDians.

  51. Owais Mughal says:
    October 12th, 2006 10:43 am

    My friend Shahran has forwarded this link to a letter appearing in Pakistan Link: Click Here

  52. October 15th, 2006 3:07 pm

    MY COMMENT IS THAT WHY HEC GIVE 10 RANK TO NED UNIVERISTY

  53. PETARIAN says:
    October 15th, 2006 3:19 pm

    THEIR IS A BIG DISADVANTAGE TO THOSE PETARIAN WHO ARE BELONG TO KARACHI BECAUSE NED SELECT THEIR CANIDIATE ON BOARD AND NED UNIVERSITY PROVIDE (22) SEAT TO HYDERABAD BOARD BUT IT IS BIG DISADVANTAGE TO THOSE PETARIAN WHO ARE FROM KARACHI HE SPENT HIS FIVE YEAR IN CADET COLLEGE PETARO BUT HE APPLY FOR NED AND SHOCK TO SEE THE SEAT IS ONLY (22) AND KARACHI BOARD GOT (1024)SEAT MY APPEAL TO(HEC) PLEASE INCREASE THE SEAT OF HYDERABAD BOARD

  54. Yahya says:
    October 15th, 2006 3:33 pm

    Here is another complain;
    Obviously someone whose university did not do well in the ranking.

  55. Yahya says:
    October 15th, 2006 3:34 pm

    [quote comment="4414"]MY COMMENT IS THAT WHY HEC GIVE 10 RANK TO NED UNIVERISTY[/quote]

    May be because it is 10th?

  56. Abbas Raza says:
    October 16th, 2006 7:24 pm

    *Yawn*

    1) HEC did a good thing by starting these rankings
    2) They should refine their system further. Have a look at the methodology/details on their website. They rank the student body at LUMS lower than QAU. Now that’s a joke!
    3) Colleges should also be included (KEMC et al.)
    4) Hope this will bring about healthy, rather than immature, competition.

    Best Regards.

    AR

  57. ali says:
    October 18th, 2006 3:12 pm

    AKU still ranks at No.1 considering the total points. This too after AKU started its PhD program a mere 4 years back. AKU is building its college of arts and sciences with a funding of close to 250 million dollars. This part of the Univerity will be complete by 2008. Theres no way any other University in Pakistan will come close to AKU.

    KEMC, and other so called “Univerities” will fair poorly against AKU, since they have no PhD programs, no labs, no research funding…..

  58. JAVED RAHMAN says:
    October 21st, 2006 9:28 pm

    I AM SURPRISED TO FIND THAT NED DID NOT STAND ANYWHERE IN THE UNIVERSITIES RANKING. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ONE OF THE BEST UNIVERSITIES IN PAKISTAN. WHAT IS THE CRITERIA OF RANKING? LOOKS LIKE IT HAS MAJOR FLAWS IN THE SYSTEM

  59. Yahya says:
    October 27th, 2006 7:06 pm
  60. Syed Farooq Hasnat says:
    October 31st, 2006 12:46 am

    Just ranking within Pakistan will not do. None of the Pakistani Universities is ranked within the first one thousand of world Universities.(See the statement of Chairman, HEC).

    Secondly, by just possessing a Ph.D. by a faculty member means nothing. For example Punjab University is notorious for Plagiarism and other unfair means by the teachers. The level of Ph.D. and M.Phil research is extremely poor and much below the standards (any standards). It is the policy of an army general Vice Chancellor to produce a bulk of high degree holders, regardless of quality. He thinks that he can prove his administrative abilities by citing numbers. What a flawed criteria of excellence.

    Think about it!

    The whole dabate about the ranking business is meaningless.

  61. Kamal I. says:
    November 5th, 2006 6:05 pm

    Rankings DO mean something. They give a signal of which direction we shodul move. What is valued. If we deisgn them right they push for the right changes.

    Just because our favorite univeristy does not come up high does not mean the rankings are wrong. Maybe it just means that we were wrong in our assessment.

  62. Abdul Ghani says:
    November 5th, 2006 5:21 pm

    Salam & hi all!

    I think ranking the universities was a really good idea, and I do agree that there are a few unexpected results, NED or IIEE for instance.

    In any case, I would like to state my own thought. The reason why NUST is above GIKI is its distributed campus system. Multiple campuses allow them to hire more PhDs., more labs, more equipment and so on and so forth. PIEAS, on the other hand is “up-there” because of its research (or so I’ve heard), labs equipment etc.

    Coming to GIK, if any one of you has ever been here, I think they would agree, that to establish an institute in as remote a region as Topi – Swabi (see, its so remote most of you might be shocked by hearing a town named “Topi”) is a work of dedication and/or a miracle. Agreed that it might not have “progressed” but I sure know it hasn’t slumped.

    AG – proud GIKIAN

  63. WASIF says:
    November 9th, 2006 2:38 pm

    its really proud to all mehranian to see the 3 rank of mehran. all people think that interior sindhi cant do or deserve any thing special in the field of studies but this ranking proves that we can get 1st rank in future inshallah.

  64. Owais Mughal says:
    November 9th, 2006 2:49 pm

    Mehran is at #5

  65. WASIF says:
    November 9th, 2006 2:50 pm

    [quote comment="7377"]Salam & hi all!

    I think ranking the universities was a really good idea, and I do agree that there are a few unexpected results, NED or IIEE for instance.

    In any case, I would like to state my own thought. The reason why NUST is above GIKI is its distributed campus system. Multiple campuses allow them to hire more PhDs., more labs, more equipment and so on and so forth. PIEAS, on the other hand is “up-there” because of its research (or so I’ve heard), labs equipment etc.

    Coming to GIK, if any one of you has ever been here, I think they would agree, that to establish an institute in as remote a region as Topi – Swabi (see, its so remote most of you might be shocked by hearing a town named “Topi”) is a work of dedication and/or a miracle. Agreed that it might not have “progressed” but I sure know it hasn’t slumped.

    AG – proud GIKIAN[/quote]
    its imposible

  66. Shahzad Anwar says:
    November 13th, 2006 1:06 am

    AOA,
    Well its pity to see that NED is not included in the list.
    NED’s name should be included atleast among top 3.
    I would love to see NED’s administration making positive moves.
    I am happy that IBA’s name is included, cant NED admin learn lesson from IBA.

    Shaz – NED/IBA

  67. adil says:
    November 13th, 2006 1:16 am

    i wonder where comsats stand…..

  68. umar shafique says:
    November 16th, 2006 12:30 pm

    iam shoked to see that where is the name of king adwrad medical college but iam very happy that lums is the top business insitute of pakistan

  69. Yasmin says:
    November 16th, 2006 1:52 pm

    I am amused how people seem to only be happy if THEIR univeristy is on top or not. As if they themselves suddenly become brighter because of this ranking. This educational nationalism is interesting because there are very few comments here about the overall state of higher education.

  70. Owais Mughal says:
    November 17th, 2006 11:05 am

    This topic continues to generate interest in National media. A letter to the editor posted on Dawn online today is here:

    http://www.dawn.com/2006/11/17/letted.htm#7

  71. nasir ali says:
    November 19th, 2006 5:40 am

    GOOD JOB

  72. Owais Mughal says:
    November 19th, 2006 11:44 pm

    One more letter to the editor on university rankings:

    http://www.dawn.com/2006/11/20/letted.htm#1

  73. Owais Mughal says:
    November 21st, 2006 11:24 pm

    A letter to the editor by Registrar of Shah Abdul Latif University, Khairpur on the issue of ‘HEC University Rankings’ appears in todays Dawn:

    http://www.dawn.com/2006/11/22/letted.htm#10

  74. Aamir says:
    November 24th, 2006 9:55 am

    In which place Bahria university karachi campus comes ? can any one tell me in which ranking did it palace this uni and is it internationly recognized?

  75. Owais Mughal says:
    November 24th, 2006 10:48 pm

    Aamir
    Bahria university may be part of NUST

  76. Owais Mughal says:
    November 24th, 2006 11:05 pm

    Dr Inayatullah, President of Council of Social Sciences sends this letter to the editor Dawn on ‘University Rankings’ issue

    http://www.dawn.com/2006/11/25/letted.htm#4

  77. Owais Mughal says:
    November 26th, 2006 11:12 pm

    This topic is going full fledge in national media. two more letters to theeditor appear in today’s Dawn:

    http://www.dawn.com/2006/11/27/letted.htm#1

  78. Aamir says:
    November 27th, 2006 3:30 am

    Owais Mughal thank you for your answer ,but there is a problum ,I am asking about Bharia university of management science KARACHI(In short i am talking about its MBA AND BBA Section).
    NUST is enginearing university ,it can be passible that Bharia dept of engeniaring may be conected with NUST university enginearing dept but where dose BHARIA university KARACHI near stadium road commerce dept stand in the list of HEC? and what do you people think about this uni. I learned from this uni that this is the frist unversity which provide cutting edge tecnology to student like of laptops and net conectivity with in the boundry of its uni and it is wireless and i heard many a students starting off with good salary of 2500 in good orginization what do you people say about this ?.

  79. khan says:
    November 28th, 2006 2:06 am

    NUST was included as 2nd rank among the top engineering univeristies? Anyone bother to know why is that? The answer is simple: if you try to dig inside, you will be surprise to know that amount of funding given to NUST, every year, is greater than the combined budget of all other engineering university. The other engieering university were left in cold, and are struggling to meet even their day to day expenditure. Of course universities need funding to upgarde it labs., trained professors, etc.

    If give 1/10 of the resources to NED, I am pretty confident that NED will easily surpass NUST.

  80. Umair Mughal says:
    November 30th, 2006 1:21 pm

    Hey, answering to Aamir’s comment about Bahria University, Iam currently studying there and doing my BBA, and He is right about the laptops and net connectivity which has been provided for the students there, just recently they’ve brought the wireless internet and provided students with laptops on easy installments basis.
    Iam not quite sure though about where this institude is ranked in Pakistan, but in karachi it is a common perception that is it next best to IBA and CBM ( College of Business Management ) and with the facilities provided for the students there and the quality of education, it is likely that it will surpass CBM shortly in terms of ranking.
    Moreover, I personally know a few people who have graduated from BU and are hired by top organizations with a starting salary of upto Rs. 30,000. And about the connection between the Engineering depts. of Bahria and NUST, im not quite sure if the faculty is linked with eachother in any way.

  81. Zulfiqar ALI JAlbani says:
    December 4th, 2006 10:29 am

    [quote comment="12614"]NUST was included as 2nd rank among the top engineering univeristies? Anyone bother to know why is that? The answer is simple: if you try to dig inside, you will be surprise to know that amount of funding given to NUST, every year, is greater than the combined budget of all other engineering university. The other engieering university were left in cold, and are struggling to meet even their day to day expenditure. Of course universities need funding to upgarde it labs., trained professors, etc.

    If give 1/10 of the resources to NED, I am pretty confident that NED will easily surpass NUST.[/quote]

    love it man LOve.,. IT!!!

  82. Owais Mughal says:
    December 7th, 2006 10:49 pm

    One more letter to the editor on the same topic from todays Dawn:

    http://www.dawn.com/2006/12/08/letted.htm#6

  83. mirwais saeed says:
    December 8th, 2006 7:57 am

    quite surprized wat about NED and UET peshawar

  84. Inam says:
    December 8th, 2006 3:32 pm

    I think any one of u ppl dont know abt GIKI(Ghulam Ishaq Khan Institue of Engineering Sciences and technology);
    its is cosidered to be the best of all engg universities. students here are very intelligent and every year every student get a job before his degree. some are selected by Micro soft, some by NEC, Some by OGDC, Shell, etc.
    its teaching staff is very tallented and every departement has more than 5 Phds, some teachers here are from UK, Russia etc. GIKI has tough acadeima. a student with with a lowest CGPA get a job with a starting sallary of 30,000/- and those with high CGPA get more than 50,000/-,
    Its labs are equiped with new and latest instruments..GIKI Mechanical is topest in asia.
    GIKI manages its expanses by its self.No Governement funds are given to it; as given to other universities.
    Despite of these facts it is put at No 3, which is not fair.

  85. Moiz says:
    December 9th, 2006 6:20 am

    This calculation about the ranking of the universities is not being accurate but as in the starting comments Adil said it is according to all catagory mean. well every1 knows about the main universities of Pakistan. but now the real competition starts and every university is tring to itz best to get the best position. iam living in karachi studying in sir syed UET. i think after NED our university is on 2nd. even in whole sindh.

  86. qureshi says:
    December 9th, 2006 6:42 am

    COMSATS islamabad is one of the best Engineering Instiute, No doubt , it’s the best because others Engineering universities have been established in 1980′s .They are serving our nation for many years.COMSATS got 8th among
    it’s the best due to following reasons

    1. it has established in 1998 , and with in its starting years COMSATS got 8th position among all other Engineering
    universities / institution .

    2. Now it has been upgrated to University standard Federal Cabinet on Wednesday 4th October, 2006,transformed/upgraded COMSATS Institute of Information Technology into university.

    3. Inspite of two as mention below Engineering Discip..
    1)B.Sc. Electrical (Telecommunication) Engineering
    2)B.Sc. Computer Engineering
    COMSATS got 8th position , while oters have two many

    4.It is indeed a matter of great satisfaction that by the grace of Almighty Allah, Pakistan Engineering Council (PEC)
    has has duly accredited the above two Engineering Programmes of CIIT, Islamabad Campus:

    while the HEC ranking was done before accrediation

    So all and all i can say that INSHALLAH COMSASTS will going to beat all others Engineering Universities and institution in Future .

  87. qureshi says:
    December 9th, 2006 7:30 am

    i think it’s quite fair ranking

  88. Formerly Yahya says:
    December 9th, 2006 7:52 am

    The Lack of Morality issue in Pakistani Society: (http://lahore.metblogs.com/archives/2006/12/the_lack_of_mor.phtml). Slightly related to this topic.

  89. WAQAS ANWAR says:
    December 11th, 2006 8:20 am

    HIYE , RANKING IS ALMOST RIGHT .I AM FRM UET LAHORE AND KNW THT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UET LAHORE AND NED BUT NT SOMUCH.NED SHOULD BE PLACED AT 5TH OR 6TH POSITION.

  90. Aamir says:
    December 12th, 2006 2:50 am

    Umair Mughal ,thank you for replying my comment i am now quit convinced that i should take addmissoin in BBA of Bharia institute and i have givin test for that and i m quit shore that i will clear the test inshallaha.There is another question i want to ask that i have given test of Bs commerce KU and BBA KU and i have given quit exelent paper but i m not shore due to compitition but i want to ask you is that how shold i put my priority ?BS of KU then BBA of KU BBA bharai what do you say and plz tell me the priorty list if i get add in all uni ?.or any of the 2 ok .thank you again.

  91. Mohammad Rizvi says:
    December 14th, 2006 5:51 am

    The sole purpose of building GIKI at an enormous cost and in a remote location was for it to be the best engineering institute in the country and a center of excellence.
    It is truly heart breaking to see how institutions with such potential are slowly degrading due to a lack of effort and incompetence.
    Instead of establishing new engineering institutes and universities in the country at public expense the govt. and HEC should try focusing their energy and effort at improving institutions like GIKI to make them good enough to compete with international institutes and universities.

  92. fahad says:
    December 14th, 2006 3:00 pm

    i think that the main cause of these dramatical drops of institutes is something to do with the city values.. speaking frankly,i would say that karachi is being targeted to be devalued. in other fields as well, one can notice that. e.g, the construction os a sea port at gawadar..that would de value karachi..the construction work in karachi just gets started and just when the streeets and roads are dugged up, the construction work comes to a halt…now if u see karachi., the city gives vision of moen-jo-daro at some places. dengue fever causing mosquitoes here were dealt with very carelessly and at last, the city is on the mercy of weather. I mean the experts said that cold will make this disappear and then, the preventive measures were stopped by the government. Why is this not happening in any other part of the country? why are all of these “mis-haps” happening in Karachi? so the lowering name of NED in HEC ranking is the part of the same game…the government officials also r not taking interest to higher or atleast mantain the standards of the institutes at Karachi.

  93. A.K.Chandio says:
    December 14th, 2006 3:54 pm

    Mr. Rizvi, why can’t Mehran Univeristy be higher than Karachi? What are you trying to say?

    The criteria are clear on the HEC website. Have you ever been to Mehran Univeristy, or just have some silly idea tat only Karachi can have success. Mehran is higher becasue more of its faculty actually has PhDs. Also it is higher because it ACTAULLY DOES RESEARCH. What univeristies are supposed to do.

  94. Mohammad Rizvi says:
    December 14th, 2006 3:40 pm

    @ Fahad…

    Sir i can assure u whatever it may be…they’re not doing it to “devalue” karachi…roads all over the country are dug up…there were a large number of cases of dengue fever in isb n rwp aswell and absolutely no preventive measures were taken…y wud they build another port in karachi when it already has one? These “mishaps” as u call them are true for the whole country and not a particular location…
    The standards of universities in Pakistan have been greatly reduced over the years irrespective of location…
    But i still fail to understand how Mehran University Jamshoro can claim the 5th spot when NED is at 10 or 11th place ?! Whatever the criteria, it truly defies common sense !

  95. Owais Mughal says:
    December 14th, 2006 5:14 pm

    Chandio Sahib
    I second your opinion that no city or place is better than other in terms of calibre or talent. The difference is in opportunities. Some cities or places offer more opportunities than others.

    Mehran is a very good uinversity. No doubt on that. I also like the architecture of its campus :) which has nothing to do with its rankings ofcourse.

  96. khan says:
    December 15th, 2006 1:57 am

    It really does not really matter who is rank 1 or 10 among pool of several low grade pakistani universities (including GIKI and NUST). I will ever see a day, when we could see either one of those, HEC ranked pakistani universities, to come near top world 100 universities. There is no one pakistani university who can even close to top 500 universities of the world.

    I think if we really want to progress at world level, we have to bring real qualities into over universities. That can only be done, if we move from adhocism to real reasearch and education. We spend less than 1% of annual budget on education.

  97. Anwar says:
    December 15th, 2006 12:19 pm

    Most Pakistani students who go overseas and excell, excell not because of a particular institution but inspite of it. It is always an individual self motivation that help them succeed. I do not recall any of my professors in Pakistan whom I will call a role model! On the contrary, some felt offended when asked critical questions (and got even during viva voce exams)and some befriended “smart students” to avoid embarassment.
    That was in the seventies – hope it is different now.
    I all fairness, in the absence of mobility and freedom to choose any institution because of domecile/quota issues, it does not matter how HEC rates schools. Most kids (and their families) will opt for the nearest rather than the greatest school.

  98. Owais Mughal says:
    December 20th, 2006 11:35 pm

    President of Textile institute writes his views on University rankings here:

    http://www.dawn.com/2006/12/21/letted.htm#2

  99. Hassan says:
    December 25th, 2006 7:26 pm

    Debating whether a university is ranked right or wrong now feels repititive.

    My question is, do we have any information if univesities in Pakistan are trying to take real steps to improve their rating by doing the things that are measured (like PhD, publications, etc.)?

  100. TALMIZ UR REHMAN says:
    December 29th, 2006 2:47 pm

    so i think the above ranking is not so bad but i reaaly hurt 2 read that PU in GENERAL RANKING has the 2nd rank i think PU should be placed at the top of all universities’ ranking in PAKISTAN n there is no mention of CEEET of pu this is ridiculas

  101. Optimist says:
    December 30th, 2006 4:06 pm

    I am an optimist and I think our universities are becoming better with new universities and good work of HEC. This ranking will also help.

  102. xyz says:
    January 6th, 2007 1:30 am

    [quote comment="3740"]Dear Farrukh. You are right. A case needs to be made if I think NED is better than others. I also admit that I am a bit biased towards NED because I studied there.[/quote]

    WELL Look at it honestly how much cheating goes on at NED and I dont know if most graduates are quality graduates or not?

    Karachi in particular has image problem, it is a lawless city with lots of influential political background which favors students of their parties.

  103. m.zulqarnain says:
    January 7th, 2007 4:13 am

    MEHRANUNIVERSITY THE TOP UNIVERSITY IN SIND

    iam very happy after ranking that our university is the top 5th university in pakistan and in sind it is at first place. the reward goes to our teachers and students

  104. shahid says:
    January 8th, 2007 2:21 am

    PLEASE TELL ME ON WHICH NUMBERS HAZARA UNIVERSITY COME.WHY IT DO NOT OFFER THE SCHLORSHIP FOR HER STUDENTS.

  105. TURAB says:
    January 8th, 2007 2:32 am

    [quote comment="24154"][quote comment="3740"]Dear Farrukh. You are right. A case needs to be made if I think NED is better than others. I also admit that I am a bit biased towards NED because I studied there.[/quote]

    WELL Look at it honestly how much cheating goes on at NED and I dont know if most graduates are quality graduates or not?

    Karachi in particular has image problem, it is a lawless city with lots of influential political background which favors students of their parties.[/quote]

    WOW the amount of bias is crazy!!!
    this generalization is not welcome by a karachiette

  106. Muhmaamad Ahmad says:
    January 8th, 2007 5:23 am

    nust is the best university of pakistan.Its teaching technique is excellient.

  107. Kamran says:
    January 11th, 2007 2:32 am

    I hope this will be an annual ranking. When is the next one expected?

  108. nida says:
    January 16th, 2007 1:26 pm

    heyy,
    i just wanted to ask that is Beacon House National University( BNU) situated in Lahore not chartered? or recognised with HEC or The Government of Punjab?….so some where it was written that it is…and if it is not why not? it is an excellent university and when will it be chartered permenently..and if it is chartered then what position dooes it hold as compared to ther unvrisities, good universities…and in Punjab and all over Pakistan …please i need my answer urgently…thank you….i think i should be considered as one of the best in LAHORE n all over PAKISTAN.

  109. furqan says:
    January 20th, 2007 3:14 am

    i am muhammad furqan ahmad from comsats insitute of information technology islamabad campus.dr. attaurehman has done good work to ranking of univeristes all students now awear to find most beneficient univerisy of himself.i sugest that ranking with the bases of faculty members and then also become most powerful univeristy in all over tyhe pakistan.ok thanks of my regard ness.if any mistake then forgive me.allah hafiz

  110. annie says:
    January 29th, 2007 1:37 am

    I am really impressed by this RANKING stuff . In almost all catg. the PUNJAB is taking the lead but I dont know why the Students are not as SHARP in discussing their Surrounding as the students belong to BALOCHISTAN even NO ranking giving to Baloch Institutions( may be due to the wiered criteria) Plz. dont take it a negative comment… its b/c I as a daughter of a Govt. employee have to go all around Pakistan & thus have a good knowledge of Student mantality & their IQ ( Alhamdulilah)….Thanx

  111. wasim& Qurban says:
    January 29th, 2007 5:36 am

    we have seen the list but we must say that why NUML is not anywhere in the list. hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  112. nasir says:
    February 2nd, 2007 7:20 am

    what is the scope of BEIT IN PAKISTAN

  113. umair ahsan says:
    February 3rd, 2007 5:16 pm

    hi to all
    well i did my MBA from HAMDARD UNIVESITY , karachi , also i m a foreign qualified having MSC in international business management from Thames Valley University
    I m bit surprised of HIMS exclusion , the reason what i have learn from HIMS is some thing that cannot be explained in words
    so for me this is wrong, my class mates are getting on average 35 thousand with in 2 years

  114. February 22nd, 2007 1:58 am

    Keep your good work going.

  115. fatima niazi says:
    March 2nd, 2007 1:25 am

    wow,
    lets go n check it , hehhehehe
    well i must say that these people don know any thing about human psychy, u can teach them by love not by punishment. but its main drawback of our nation k they think Danda is solution of every thing.
    fami

  116. March 2nd, 2007 6:20 am

    what is the scope of be(ee) from numl university

  117. March 2nd, 2007 1:32 pm

    7 years ago around 20-25 pre-engineering batch mates in saudia left for higher studies, some went to NUST, some to FAST, some to NED, most to UET(Lahore). Although there were many more students who went to other places as well but im mentioning this small sample is because what ive come to know, NED is the worst among atleast the four mentioned, they do hire the best students but they dont produce the best engineers. Besides the definition of best is also controversial in pakistan intermediate board system. NED has no research facilities, faculty is lacking and for a long time they didnt have enough PhDs and most faculty were NED grads.
    NEDians survived because they were the ‘best’ students. (again the def sustains) who helped themselves out. And ofcourse being the only public engineering university in khi worth going, many students who coudnt afford private univs. came along.

    NUST, started off really well, infact still is a fantastic place to study but I have heard so many instances where NUST has a strong bias against civilian students even when they bear most of the fee. From Risalpur to PNEC in khi, its the same old story. Infact in khi, they used NED’s faculty. This states the sorry state of our top ranked univs. too.

    there were around 5 of us who came to FAST, two in khi, two in lhr, 1 in isb. Things were going well in all three but when management changed in khi, they ruined it, when i applied, there were above 4000 candidates for 150 seats in karachi, last year i came to know that there were only 700 candidates for 500 seats!!! So much for attracting top students. and believe me, when i came, FAST had passed its peak time and was on a steady decline. Now, only lahore is worth going but with the constant increase in fee, people r choosing LUMS for obvious reasons.

    UET Lahore i find to b a gym among public engineering univs. Except for the Mechanical Department which is and has been quite notorious for under achievement, their faculty, facilities all are worth mentioning.

    I’d also like to add, that SSUET for a short period of around 5 years produced the best IT pros in Pakistan outclassing FASTians and KU students. even though they were not the highest in merit when entering, SSUET made them the best at graduation. This is what i call a good university.
    But now i guess, its the old days again, what comes in, comes out the same…

  118. March 2nd, 2007 1:35 pm

    ofcourse these are all my opinions and those which i got from my friends.
    no hard feelings to any one’s alma mater.
    peace!

  119. tariq khan says:
    March 2nd, 2007 6:59 pm

    hi,i want to take admission in bcs in comsats islamabad campus.I am only interested in it for various reasons but i have a few doubts.

    1..
    what kind of electives are taught there in the theird and final year?do they match with uet lahore’s course?

    2..
    Is it possible to transfer credit hours from ciit isd. to some british university/institute.

    3..
    what kind of time table do they have?

    I have a few friends who are studying at uet taxila(software eng) they told me that its in the evening shift and they don’t give any summer holidays and its a continous
    period of 4 years which is really hard.(imagine going to university from islamabad everyday @ 10:30 in morning and returning @ 8:00 in evening)so in islamabd i am only interested in comsats.

    please guide me.send me mail at

    hashboy@reallyfast.info

    thanx and waiting for reply’s

  120. Ataur rehman says:
    March 5th, 2007 1:31 pm

    I m a student of national university of science and technology.i have read some comments abt hec ranking and
    also abt NUST.it is thought that NUST has a large amount of funds.I think it is not true.bcoz if we compare any type of facilities tht the student of other public sector universiteis have.Like tansport facility accomodation facility etc.every public sector university student can get these facilities at very low expenses.another important thing is exam system of nust.there is relative grading system.and after each semester aproximately 10% students from the lower end r relegated or withdrawl due to its tough exam system.due to this studies at nust is very tough as caompared to any other institution.so u can not say tht the ranking is bad.

  121. AzK says:
    March 24th, 2007 9:23 am

    Well ranking the universities is a good thing that HEC has started but the criteria should be made more diverse. I am a student of the Ghulam Ishaq Khan Institute’s Mechanical Engg. department that is probably the best ME department in whole of Pakistan. As far as GIKI’s standards are concerned they are undoubtedly the highest in Pakistan, a fact that is even recognized and admired by the people and students that come from different other universities in Pakistan. We have a faculty that is truly international with Phds not only from Pakistan but also from UK, France, Russia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan etc. The ranking of the universities has been rejected by GIKI’s rector Dr. Abdullah Sadiq (S.I, Abdus Salam ICTP Laureate). He was also the previous rector of PIEAS. GIKI maintains that the criteria under which the universities were judged is completely biased as private and public sector universities are judged under the same category. GIKI is a no-profit institute unlike NUST or PIEAS which recieve massive funding by the government and the Armed forces. GIKI is not on the governments funding list and finances itself yet it got higher points in finance management by HEC as compared to other universities. Also GIKI is an undergraduate institute whereas it is ranked with post graduate institutes that counted for the reduction in points for GIKI under the categories of no. of Phds produced every year etc. Our academic standards are recognized by HEC itself as a 2 gpa holder from GIKI is equivalent to 60% whereas for other universities it is 2.5 equivalent to 60%. In short HEC should make the sysytem more elaborate by including categories as student societies and activities etc.

    A gikian…}}}

  122. ali says:
    March 29th, 2007 10:32 pm

    Listen guys,

    aga khan university is the only place to look for. Check out their entry on wikipedia

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aga_Khan_University

    their alumni are already professors at harvard, johns hopkins, yale etc

    some of these alumni have come back to aku. imagine if they are good enough to be professors at harvard, hopkins etc how good they will be.

    all this when aku started producing grads less than 20 years ago. its only a matter of time when one of their alumni wins a nobel prize etc and aku starts shwoing on the world map!

  123. ali says:
    March 29th, 2007 10:38 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aga_Khan_University#Medical_College_2

    these number of aku alumni working as professors at american universities….

  124. umair says:
    March 30th, 2007 10:02 am

    HI!!!!!!!
    ME UMAIR HERE I AM STUDENT OF MUHAMMAD ALI JINNAH UNIVERSITY ITS THE INSTITUTION WHERE WE GET THE REAL ENGINEERING TECHNIQUES N KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE NEW INVENTIONS……..
    COMPLEMENTS

    UMAIR ASIF (ISLAMABAD)

  125. April 6th, 2007 1:03 am

    I was somewhat surprised by these rankings as well. NED was the big surprise and then I was also surprised to learn that FAST Islamabad campus was included in the rankings above the Lahore one. As far as my understanding goes, the Lahore campus is the best one for the university.

    Moreover, I found the ranking system somewhat weird. Look at the ranking criteria they underlined under the heading of “studentâ€

  126. ali says:
    April 10th, 2007 11:03 am

    I dont see how KEMC will even beat nwabshah medical school -KEMC has no phds in its basic science department, no research facilities…

    u cannot rely on hearsay for ratings.

  127. ali says:
    April 10th, 2007 1:48 pm

    This is what matters.

    Click here

  128. bhatti says:
    April 10th, 2007 7:41 pm

    KEMC published a mere 5 articles in 2006. pathetic.

    AKU is certainly at the top.

    —-
    AKU researches have most impact

    * Punjab University ranked fourth in researches impact

    By Khalid Khattak

    LAHORE: The Aga Khan University is the number one university in Pakistan according to the national universities’ rankings announced by the Higher Education Commission (HEC).

    HEC executive director Dr Suhail H Naqvi told Daily Times on Saturday that the research ranking of universities was determined internationally on the basis of Cumulative Impact Factor (CIF) of research articles published by the universities in the internationally recognised journals.

    According to the rankings, Aga Khan University topped the list with 694.28 CIF for its 189 research articles in 2006. Quaid-e-Azam University came in second with its 312 articles securing 405.84 CIF. Karachi University was placed at number three with its 226 articles getting 204.58 CIF. Punjab University was ranked fourth at 125.996 CIF for its 94 research publications published in internationally recognised journals during 2006.

    The University of Agriculture, Faisalabad was ranked fifth for producing 137 articles that secured 107.95 CIF. The Government College University (GCU), King Edward Medical University (KEMU), University of Engineering and Technology (UET) and the University of Veterinary and Animal Sciences (UVAS), Lahore, were placed sixth, eighth, 21st and 25th respectively. These varsities got 69.888, 51.171, 10.828 and 7.295 CIF for 67, 5, 17 and 3 articles respectively.

    As many as 31 varsities from public and private sectors in Pakistan did not contribute articles in 2006 to any internationally recognised publication.

    The Lahore College for Women University (LCWU), Hajvery University, University of Central Punjab (UCP) and the University of Lahore were among the universities with zero impact factor.

    According to the HEC, the universities focusing on arts and social sciences and those degree awarding institutes that were given charters after 2002 have been excluded from this ranking.

    Dr Naqvi said, “Universities with zero impact factor need to start focusing on research since they, unlike colleges, are expected to contribute to research along with traditional classroom studies.â€

  129. bhatti says:
    April 10th, 2007 7:50 pm

    go to the wikipedia entry on aku to learn more……

    —————-
    Recent discoveries made at AKU have made headlines in international and local news outlets.

    Aga Khan University team discover which patients keep on taking their medicine.
    AKU researchers find blood-pressure gene
    AKU Study urges Pakistani families to ‘stop kidding around’
    AKU CHS Research Helps Shape Injection Safety Policy
    AKU Researchers Unravel Genetics of High Blood Pressure
    The University is also the site for several NIH cinical trials. [7]

  130. Khyal says:
    April 12th, 2007 3:08 am

    Here is some information about “Pakistan Institute of Engineering and Applied Sciences” ranked No.1 amongst the Engineering Universities.
    PIEAS is run by Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission and it teaches subjects that are of direct relevance to PAEC, so that all the MS graduates are directly inducted in PAEC.PIEAS has a vast pool of highly qualified manpower available to it in PAEC for its teaching. It also has associated with it the number one multidisciplinary research institute of the country PINSTECH to support its research activities. The student teacher ratio is around 1:5. No wonder PIEAS tops the list of engineering universities

  131. bahraim says:
    April 12th, 2007 11:55 am

    sure dude, but research ranking depend on how much you publish in international indexed peer-reviewed journals not how good your facilities/ faculty are…

    and based on that, other than Aga Khan University, all the rest are pathetic.

  132. maaz says:
    April 19th, 2007 12:43 am

    there is no name of allama iqbal open university. Why?

  133. akhtar says:
    April 20th, 2007 9:11 am

    because of no research

    thats why

  134. Zobaria says:
    April 20th, 2007 2:12 pm

    Regarding the Aga Khan University, it is definitely a great medical college, and probably a good nursing school. However as a university, I believe it still has a long way to go. They really need to work on their PhD programme, where the attrition rate of both students and teachers is very high. Infact, to compensate for the lack of faculty, they end up asking undergrad students to teach their PhD students!
    Before starting a PhD programme they should have introduced M.S/M.Phil programme. That should have been the launching pad for PhD studies, where the students who are really interested could continue their research studies and those who decide to leave would have an M.S/M.Phil.
    An ad-hoc based PhD programme would only tarnish it’s image as university, casting doubts as to it’s right to be the highest ranked university.

    P.S. I have seen graduates of lower ranked universities showing better performance than the graduates of higher ranked institutions. You can’t judge a book by it’s cover.

  135. zia-ur-rehman says:
    April 24th, 2007 6:29 am

    hi.i m the student of FC College(A Chartered University) and doing Business Program there.From 1971 to 2003 it was govt’s institute but after 2003 it again privatised and its quality and standard is sharply improving day by day.FC has hired very capable faculty especially from LUMS for business program.i hope in the future FC will be at the top positions in ranking in pakistan.

  136. ali says:
    April 25th, 2007 8:55 am

    ranking is based on the number of research papers you publish in indexed peer-reviewed journals NOT how good your teaching is.

    by the way, the PhD program at AKU started 4-5 years back and it is too soon to judge its quality.

    I know one graduate of that program who did part of her thesis at karolinska and is now a faculty at AKU.

  137. akhtar says:
    April 25th, 2007 8:23 pm

    AKU just started its PhD program. In the US you dont do Msc/ mphil before PhD and AKUs PhD program is based on the american system

    They have foreign trained faculty so I dont see why the students would have problems.

    http://www.aku.edu/medicalcollege/bbs/fac.htm

  138. May 2nd, 2007 6:53 am

    Well I’m really amazed to see these rankings.I think that COMSATS university is better than atleast the position which is being given to that.Thats not because I’m a student of COMSATS but COMSATS has earned that status in few years which universities normally get in many years.

  139. AO says:
    May 4th, 2007 6:31 pm

    The rankings are arbitrary. Its more a list of “approved” universities. Case in point:

    Though, some of the facts are hard to digest. For example, TIP is ranked number one in terms of facilities, higher than even the Aga Khan University which is slightly lower at number two. To further elaborate, when one looks in to the details, the student to computer ratio is claimed to be 1:1. Another is the ratio of Ph.D faculty, where we get the maximum score. (We have note more than three Ph.D’s).

    http://www.quackonline.net/general/tip-ranked-number-8/

  140. mansoor says:
    May 17th, 2007 7:34 am

    i study the commits of all the boys and girls about top ten universitesof pakistan but i am that some of leading and devlopping uninersites are not considerd yet.
    forexapmle
    UNIVERSITY OF SARGIDAH,SARGODAH
    is one of most beautiful and vary nice place to study.
    any one who wants to take information about the university
    HE or SHE must visut the site
    http://www.uos.edu.pk
    thanks

  141. Aysha says:
    May 21st, 2007 2:23 am

    i m student of Islamia university bahawalpur.i want to know which one uniersity is best for the time being.i hpe best one is Islamia University bahawalpur. thanks

  142. M .UZAIR says:
    May 22nd, 2007 6:03 am

    ahi all
    i am pu bbit student i read all comments .
    i here want to tell wy pu stand 2nd bcoz it has 70 depatment and 40,000 student.and provide education from philosphy to phycics.

  143. chaudhry salman akbar of pagh says:
    May 23rd, 2007 9:17 am

    hello can any one tell me about the bahria university and its rank possition mail me if some one now about that salman1207pk@hotmail.com

  144. Danish khan says:
    June 2nd, 2007 2:17 am

    hey friendz

    the rankings r ok but all these top universitiess r expensive and hard 2 get admission in so don’t think of them

  145. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    June 2nd, 2007 3:27 am

    [quote comment="3778"]Since you guys are talking about NED. Can I ask a question why not many NEDians make their way to foreign universities in the west? Pakistan is sending most students from Punjab and Islamabad. Last I heard Karachi still holds top most position in literacy rate then why we are not seeing that representation in the west. I hope its not low standard of education…[/quote]

    I think that is perhaps because more jobs are available in Karachi than in say Punjab or Islamabad. Its usually the people who have difficulty finding jobs go for higher studies to make their future secure. Karachitites don’t perhaps need to go for any further than a Bachelors.

  146. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    June 2nd, 2007 3:31 am

    [quote comment="3819"]An interesting point for me is NUST is now above GIK among Engineering Universities. GIK was established as a de-facto center of excellence but it has fallen down to # 3.[/quote]

    I have studied and taught at NUST and have visited GIK a number times. I fail to understand how NUST scored better than GIK.

  147. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    June 2nd, 2007 3:40 am

    [quote comment="7377"]Salam & hi all!

    I think ranking the universities was a really good idea, and I do agree that there are a few unexpected results, NED or IIEE for instance.

    In any case, I would like to state my own thought. The reason why NUST is above GIKI is its distributed campus system. Multiple campuses allow them to hire more PhDs., more labs, more equipment and so on and so forth. PIEAS, on the other hand is “up-there” because of its research (or so I’ve heard), labs equipment etc.

    Coming to GIK, if any one of you has ever been here, I think they would agree, that to establish an institute in as remote a region as Topi – Swabi (see, its so remote most of you might be shocked by hearing a town named “Topi”) is a work of dedication and/or a miracle. Agreed that it might not have “progressed” but I sure know it hasn’t slumped.

    AG – proud GIKIAN[/quote]

    How many PhDs does NUST really have? And does a PhD really matter? You can get PhDs from say Petronas University in Malaysia and MS from MIT. Which one would you rate higehr?

  148. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    June 2nd, 2007 3:42 am

    [quote comment="12029"]Aamir
    Bahria university may be part of NUST[/quote]

    It is not.

  149. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    June 2nd, 2007 3:45 am

    [quote comment="15147"]I think any one of u ppl dont know abt GIKI(Ghulam Ishaq Khan Institue of Engineering Sciences and technology);
    its is cosidered to be the best of all engg universities. students here are very intelligent and every year every student get a job before his degree. some are selected by Micro soft, some by NEC, Some by OGDC, Shell, etc.
    its teaching staff is very tallented and every departement has more than 5 Phds, some teachers here are from UK, Russia etc. GIKI has tough acadeima. a student with with a lowest CGPA get a job with a starting sallary of 30,000/- and those with high CGPA get more than 50,000/-,
    Its labs are equiped with new and latest instruments..GIKI Mechanical is topest in asia.
    GIKI manages its expanses by its self.No Governement funds are given to it; as given to other universities.
    Despite of these facts it is put at No 3, which is not fair.[/quote]

    GIKI is definitely better than NUST.

  150. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    June 2nd, 2007 3:49 am

    [quote comment="19702"]Debating whether a university is ranked right or wrong now feels repititive.

    My question is, do we have any information if univesities in Pakistan are trying to take real steps to improve their rating by doing the things that are measured (like PhD, publications, etc.)?[/quote]

    To me the whole idea of PhDs and research is flawed. We need to produce good engineers and technicians rather than MS and PhDs, because that is what our economy demands.

  151. Ataur Rehman says:
    June 5th, 2007 3:07 pm

    hi
    nust institute of information tech. was established in 1999.and in short time this institute gain good reputation in it and coom. sector.and at this time it is collaborating
    with stanford caltech and other top ranked univ. in world.
    and companies like cern microsoft intel ibm linux.and graduates from this institutes are in high demand of international markete.and almost 70% students are selected by international companies.so that is why nust is above giki.

  152. Usman says:
    June 5th, 2007 9:02 pm

    here iam Usman Ahmed from qta,, i want to know the recogonation of UET Kushzdar,& BUITMS & IQRA UNivesity in BAlochistan qta,, which one is better one either UET KUSZDAR BE or BUITMS BS or NUST BBA or IQRA University BBA…. ..
    iam SOOOOO HUrdle………
    that i got admission in Alot of universities in Pakistan….(islamabad, lahore)..BUT yet now.. here i also got admission In …..1.BBA In NUST, 2.BBA IN IQRA UNIVERSITY QUETTA, 3.BS.TELECOM BUITMS 4.BE ELECRTICAL UET KUSZDAR…………..which one i’ll join it…..either BBA, BS or BE has alot of scope or ACCA or CA has alot of Scope….which DISCLIPINE I”LL JOIN it..which one is better 4 mee??…….

    USMAN AHMED
    usmanahmedqta@hotmail.com
    03003817589 :D

  153. Owais Mughal says:
    June 5th, 2007 9:50 pm

    Dear Usman
    Among the universities and choices you have listed , I will recommend you to go for BBA at NUST.

  154. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    June 6th, 2007 9:12 am

    [quote comment="52015"]hi
    nust institute of information tech. was established in 1999.and in short time this institute gain good reputation in it and coom. sector.and at this time it is collaborating
    with stanford caltech and other top ranked univ. in world.
    and companies like cern microsoft intel ibm linux.and graduates from this institutes are in high demand of international markete.and almost 70% students are selected by international companies.so that is why nust is above giki.[/quote]

    Well NIIT is over rated. Back in 2004 or 2005 I was part of the academic audit team of NUST and we looked at all the courses offered by NIIT in detail. The courses offered by NIIT were far inferior to offered by MCS and most of the students who really did some work there were from MCS, NIIT students not being capable of contributig in any meaningful way, thanks to the law quality of NIIT students.

    Most of these “high quality” students come from the Computer Science department of MCS but the quality of these students has deteriorated over the years for many reasons.

    Quality faculty has left MCS. The merit for Computer Science (Software Engineering) has gone down due to student’s preferance for Telecom. Courses at MCS are not being updated and geared towards the market needs.

  155. arsalan ahmed khan says:
    June 13th, 2007 11:02 am

    salm dis iz arsalan 4m bahrain i suffered a lot in finding besty universities in karachi as i was unaware of the of degree recognition of universities and its value after finishing for jobs but then i finally appplied in 2 best universities of karachi i.e NED and Sir Syed university of engineering and technolofy and hope fully i got admission in sir syed uni buty can any body tell me if i can transfer to some other uni my email id is
    Khanzscope_2c@hotmail.com
    03062221161
    right now im in bahrain spending holidays with my parents i will reach karachi by 4th of july i have completed all my studies in Kingdom Of bahrain in middle East

  156. arsalan ahmed khan says:
    June 13th, 2007 11:04 am

    please inform me or email me the website on which all universities of pakistan are mentioned ranking wise

    Khanzscope_2c@hotmail.com

  157. ALI says:
    June 15th, 2007 8:34 am

    On which number BZU MULTAN comes among the universities of engineering?I have got 75% in 1st year and to get 76% in second year what will u prefer for me?

  158. abdul khaliq teepu says:
    June 15th, 2007 10:34 pm

    ASSALAMUALAIKUM,
    your ranking are good but not 100 percent right because mehran university did not deserved 5th position.The teachers do not taking the classes properly and many political parties active there and distroy the educational atmosphere.The equipments of mehran university are very nice but labs are not taken properly and students are warried about that.teachers using bad language in the class for students.I thing you give 5th position to the sir syed university because the atmosphere,diciplan and every thing is perfect there upto 80 percent.only one political party is active there n that party doing positive work.
    THANKS

  159. safdar ali qureshi says:
    June 16th, 2007 3:43 am

    private sector should have there own catagory.

  160. jamshaid says:
    June 16th, 2007 3:48 am

    i like a girl .she is our senior but so lovely.it is requested to hec to fail her for two years.

  161. Ataur Rehman says:
    June 16th, 2007 1:05 pm

    well some of my freind suggested that the courses at niit are inferior.pec team has visited niit anad they aproaved niit,s engineering at their first visit in 24 hours with no objection. and they apreciated the courses which are offered at niit.and it was a great hounour for niit that in the history of pec engineering degree of niit was recognised so immidiately.

  162. Mateen Ahmad says:
    June 19th, 2007 5:51 am

    Salam i msut say that it is not a completely right ranking,
    it has some mistakes, and also it is not complete rankinging, because atleast 10 university including in a ranking in a specific field, for example 10 universities ranked of medical field, ok
    God Bless U, Goodbye

  163. June 21st, 2007 1:15 pm

    Thank you for starting this important dicussion I want to ask that where does PakAims stands and these days in lahore, University of Lahore(UOL) is having good ranks wht you people preffer PAKAIMS or UOL for MBA. Thank you.

  164. June 26th, 2007 1:23 am

    Well! Being a student of NUST I found this ranking quite nice but I couldn’t know the logic behind this that why there is no name of NUST in the IT Ranking, while infact NIIT(NUST Institute of Information Technology) is one of the best IT institute of Pakistan with alot of research output. I am an IT student of this institute and I know the standard of education and other research based activities which are part of academic life in this institute even in the UG level while other universities lack in this field.
    So, a bit dis-appointing in this regard!!!!!!!!

  165. Yasir Maken says:
    June 29th, 2007 6:02 am

    Well! I strongly disagree with the ranking criteria, Well, what do u think the first field NUmber of students is reflecting??
    They have even rated FAST below that Jamshoro university.
    Dont you think it sounds pathetic??
    Is there any logic behind it??

    They should atleast have categorized the ranking under different critereas and FAST should be put under IT sector as it has just started offering Telecom engineering.

    FAST has a good name due to Computer science. Whay should it be compared with other institutes offering pure engineering degrees. There should be separatrion of concern atleast.

    Yasir Maken
    yes_sir1@hotmail.com

  166. Yasir Maken says:
    June 29th, 2007 6:05 am

    If the PEC ranking criterea goes on this way, im sure that after some days, all of us are going to find hamdard and iqra on the top and LUMS , FAST and NUST on the bottom.

  167. BARKAT SHAH says:
    July 3rd, 2007 8:56 am

    why QUAID-E-AWAM UNEVERSITY OF ENGINEERINF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY NAWAB SHAH.(QUEST)is in the end of ranking .plz tell me the procedure how to improve university to get the top in ranking. inshallah we get the top .plz sir mentioned all includeds. thank u

  168. July 4th, 2007 7:06 am

    Preston University is one of the most important university of Pakistan.

    There are so many students who are serving Pakistan’s leading companees at key posts

  169. saqqib says:
    July 4th, 2007 3:02 pm

    NU_FAST is one of the top university in pakistan. so y not its in the top listed universities.

  170. summaiya says:
    July 5th, 2007 11:13 am

    well…I’M shock that private universities taking to0 much fees……and i think its not fair…because we are the students…and we need to get higher education from the standard universities…but we cant….the most richest student can afford it…..i just want to mention it that please make the fees affordable…in this way we can get it!! hope my comment ‘ll work!!

  171. waqas says:
    July 8th, 2007 11:36 am

    i am satisfied wd the 4th position of uet lahore
    :)

  172. waqas says:
    July 8th, 2007 11:40 am

    but i fink 3rd position suits uet lahore better
    but as they did worse in case of ned so i fink placing uet lahore on 4th number is suitable

  173. basit khattak says:
    July 9th, 2007 12:58 am

    yar can anyone, prove that there is best degree than CA in pakistan.A qulafied CA go above one lac at start can anyone else.pupykhattak@gmail.com email me thanks

  174. July 9th, 2007 10:43 pm

    Assalam o Alaikum Dears;

    good ranking here. there r also many universities providing good quality of education, so i think site will be updated n there names also mentioned.
    ok can any one tell me that which university offering quality MS Telecom in pakistan.
    Thank You;

    Allah Hafiz.

    Best Regards;
    Syed Talha Umair Bukhari
    Telecom Engineering Student
    s.talha@ieee.org
    sydtalha@yahoo.com

  175. July 10th, 2007 9:11 am

    bhai
    can anybody tell me any university in Karachi offering mba in textile management

  176. Faisal Mahmood (Gikin) says:
    July 14th, 2007 1:48 am

    i would like to say that GIKI is one of the best institutions of engineering and technology in asia our seniors get jobs during their final years it is not conidered good for parties to choose institutions but still parties prefer fresh graduates from GIKI(Engineers), LUMS(Ecnomists and MBAs), FAST (CS) which are basically private institutions but are considered to be the most prestigious ones among all other institutes in asia if HEC representitves really visited GIKI and looked over all the facilities they would have never ranked it # 3 although they have done so students still prefer GIKI over NUST & UET (Lahore)
    F.MAHMOOD

  177. Khali says:
    July 15th, 2007 6:29 pm

    i like take interest in international islamic university islamabad what so ever i think that IIUI should No.1 in General ranking

  178. OWAIS says:
    July 17th, 2007 8:18 am

    what is the rank of ned in the pakistan ranking??

  179. aden says:
    July 19th, 2007 4:06 pm

    i am a student of superior university lahore i am doing bba from here what is my future will i take good job or not but i can say one thing about superior thats its studies is very good and it will go to top in pakistan

  180. Yasir says:
    July 21st, 2007 11:31 am

    Assalam-o- Ailikum!

    I have recently done with my HSC examanation and now preparing for the aptitude test for NED, I was shocked to see NED “thye symbol of engineering education in Karachi” lacking behind in the rankings and not geeting the quality mark as it should have and I think that is not good for the students of Karachi …….Well I can hope so that ranking should not effect a person`s engineering carreir who has graduated from NED.

  181. saad says:
    July 23rd, 2007 4:21 am

    i’ve got admission in both NU-FAST and LSE for BBA.can anyone suggest me that where should i apply FAST or LSE?

  182. saad says:
    July 23rd, 2007 4:25 am

    it’s really urgent.plzzzzzzzzzz tell me

  183. nazia ahmed shaikh says:
    July 23rd, 2007 12:12 pm

    i would like say that ‘what about the IBA sukkur.becouse my teacher’s says that this is top most ranking institute in pakistan but in ur website there is no mentioneb this college

  184. Owais Mughal says:
    July 23rd, 2007 11:25 pm

    Yasir
    The ranking above will probably not affect one’s career if he/she is looking for job. The rating is in its nascent stage now. Maybe after few years it will gain weightage but in the first year, as it is above, it shouldn’tt affect one’s career. However, those graduating from top universities mentioned in this rating can use it to as a plus point while talking to their prospepctive employers.

  185. saad says:
    July 24th, 2007 2:10 am

    can anyone tell which is better in lahore NU-FASt or LSE for BBA?

  186. hassan says:
    July 25th, 2007 6:47 pm

    salams i wants to know that is bahria university is the great choice for me to do bba

  187. Owais Mughal says:
    July 25th, 2007 9:23 pm

    Hassan, scroll above in the comnents section and see Umair Mughal’s comments on BBA at Bahria University

  188. umaid says:
    August 1st, 2007 4:10 am

    there are no specific rankings for Computer science program
    It should have been and definetely FAST-NU will have been no.1

  189. umaid says:
    August 1st, 2007 4:16 am

    FAST NU is the NUMBER ONE computer science university in Pakistan
    those admitted or have studied are proud FASTIANS
    IF computer science is your field of interest look no further than FAST-NU

  190. umaid says:
    August 1st, 2007 4:21 am

    ALL supporters of FAST
    write to me at

    umaidkhalid@yahoo.com

    next rankings will have FAST-NU at no.1 position
    in computer sciences

    our voice will be heard

  191. August 1st, 2007 4:59 pm

    hey this is zain i think ranking has little unconsitency because they rank iqra university above LSE whiich is very very strange because iqra is not a gud university its dam easy to get in IQRA univerisity but to get in LSE is far difficult.so i think lse must rank in 3 or 4 position

  192. israr malik says:
    August 2nd, 2007 1:28 am

    what is ranking of technical base universities

  193. Owais says:
    August 2nd, 2007 12:33 pm

    WIERD RANKING!! i mean what is the criteria of this ranking system?? What a surprise, NED & FAST-NU are far below in the ranking.

  194. Syed Omer Ali says:
    August 7th, 2007 1:49 am

    its really very weird,infact I became surprised when i had visited the ranking.its seems like all the criteria and policies have been changed for placing the right universities on right place,or may be its a controversy….

  195. Zulfiqar says:
    August 8th, 2007 6:56 pm

    I totally disagree with these rankings.

    If you have ever applied to NUST BBA and LSE..you will know the difference. A friend of mine, ranking 500th on NUST BBA merit list got admission in LSE easily…that is the quality of student input of LSE vs NUSTs BBA (NIMS). NUST takes maximum 108.

    Most of the criteria here are based on Quantity and not the quality. A BBA from NUST will ensure your job and their market value is as much as LUMS Bachelors graduates…(you can check that with HR managers of Banks in RWP/ISL)

    Again, HEC failed to take quality considerations in mind…thousands of students apply for NUST’s BBA, only 108 get selected. That tells you something…and those who fail here and cant keep up, get admission in Bahria easily.

    This is how I would rate for BBA/BSE hopefulls:
    1 – LUMS
    2 – IBA
    3 – NUST (NIMS)

    The difference between top 3 and rest like 4,5,6 is alot, so its not even worth mentioning and fees of NUST is also reasonable compared to other private universities.

    Also once all NUST’s campuses are centralised in Islamabad, it will become the biggest, most advanced university in Pakistan. They have a strong Alumni presence (e.g. The Brand manager of AXE is a NUSTIAN) and many more.

    This information I have given as I did survey for my cousin for best BBA in this country.

    Iqra, Bahria, Comsats, MAJU ~~ etc are okay if you dont get admission in the top 3. FAST’s BBA is very new, so I dont know, but FAST is good for computer subjects.

    Good luck to all the confused souls.

  196. August 9th, 2007 1:56 am

    i want toask that what is the scope of bba from fast_NU

  197. Muhammad Hassaan says:
    August 9th, 2007 10:08 am

    Haam kafi haad tak theek bhi kaha gia lekin main samajta huun k HEC ki ranking say zeyada important engneering k dues hain jo k intnay zeyada hain k koi middle gharanay ka bacha ya bachi afford nahi kar saktay yeh GIKI, LUMS, FAST and many other universities k jin k dues itnat zeyada hain k oh my GOD!!! yaar sirf ham logon ka hi dil nahi karta k hum in universities main parhain middle standard ki families k bachoon ka bhi utna hi haak hai in universities pay jitna k hamara hai Govt. ko chahiay k in k fee structure ki taraf dhiaan dia jaey our iss main kami karnay ki jaey takay woh students bhi in universities main parh sakeen jo k itnay marks letay hain lekin vasail ki waja say in main admission lay nahi saktay, main sirf yeh kahna chahoon ga thnx and ALLAH HAFIZ.

  198. shah says:
    August 10th, 2007 2:31 am

    lba is best for bba

  199. sohail says:
    August 11th, 2007 1:50 pm

    here private inst are not mentioned in ranking or? what u say about COMSATS abbottabad uni plz?

  200. zohaib abbas says:
    August 14th, 2007 3:54 am

    please tell me is szabist islamabad campus better or bahria islamabad as i am selected in both of them
    please hurry up i am undecided help me through ur rankings

  201. August 14th, 2007 7:36 am

    Hi dears
    I m from peshawar.the student of agricultural university of peshawar.i m stisfied with 2nd position of agricultural universty peshawar and i m very happy Thanks God.

  202. August 14th, 2007 7:57 am

    agricultural university peshawar ki janib say tamam aihle wathan ko jishni azadi mubarak hooo

  203. Ayaz Ahmed says:
    August 15th, 2007 8:12 am

    can u please tell me where Mohammad Ali Jinnah University (MAJU) Rank

  204. Muhammad Zeeshan Kidwai says:
    August 15th, 2007 2:22 pm

    It is really very disappointing to see that NED is not in Top 3 university of Pakistan. How they have evaluated this, everybody knows that NED is in top 3 . I think so the people who hae evaluated have not seen evry aspect of evaluation criteria.

    NED is the BEST .
    Muhammad Zeeshan Kidwai

  205. August 17th, 2007 3:39 am

    I think that HEC ranking must be based on most competeting university basis and i think so NUST and UET are most competiting universities.uet should have been placed above GIKI because this year only 5000 students applied in GIKI but in UET and NUST ALMOST 50000 STUDENTS applied.so HEC must take it in to accout too.

  206. Ali Pasha says:
    August 18th, 2007 4:17 am

    The University Of LAHORE should be here in top list. Because this is the only university from pakistan who come in world’s top 500 Universities ” THES-QS World University ranking 2006″.
    It is recognised by the Pakistan Engineering Council.
    It is recognised by the pakistan Medical and Dental Council.
    It is recognised by the Pharmacy Council of Pakistan.

    In May 2007 The University Of LAHORE given highest HEC ranking.
    Ranked among the Top 500 Universities of the World (Times London & QS).
    I think this is the No 1 University Of Pakistan.
    The University has also a new city campus in which it teaches the programs of COMMERCE & ACCOUNTING AND FINANCE and It is attached with the University Of LONDON.

  207. ANAM says:
    August 20th, 2007 3:33 am

    i want 2 do bba can anybody tells me 4m where i do

  208. Fahd says:
    August 20th, 2007 6:38 am

    In response to Zulfiqar’s response regarding NIMS and LSE.

    The addmission criteria is surely a bases of the quality of students you have in a university but i strongly disagree with the policies of NIMS and i dont personally think that the 108 that would ultimately get through would be quality as compared to world standards.

    Their entrance test was totally pathetic, asking things which could be attempted by anyone who is good at cramming things. There is no provision for personal creativity and assessment of students on their personal talents and abilities. They just have a bookish formula of taking in students and nothing else. In Bussiness Administration specifically universities should look for the people who would turn out to be good proffesional managers and contribute something to the market that is exclusive. Do you expect a student who is just used to the matriculation system of cramming things and copying it word by word in the exam and any addition or subtraction would lead to deduction of marks. This might work for doctors or engineers but for bussiness management this is can not.

    Also, i fear that NIMS also has that conventional method of teaching. As BBA/BSC require constant updates on courses,etc our conventional teachers and universities go by the dogmatic way of teaching. This could be done in BBA as well.

    Last but not the least, universities are known for their facilities, their faculit and student intake. 108 students in a batch is not a good enough no. to be ranked amongst the top universities of the country. The more the students the higher number of quality graduates pass out.

    I might not be right, but thats whats my personal opinion and on this basis i’ve based my decision to go for LSE.

  209. Fahd says:
    August 20th, 2007 6:42 am

    @ ANAM..

    It depends on the options you’ve got. But i personally think that if you are looking for a good job placement after you’ve completed your studies you should hope to do your masters from abroad. Do your undergraduate from any normal university here and then go abroad for masters, that would make sure you’ll in line with the graduates of LUMS and IBA for that matter :)

  210. Razza Nazir says:
    August 21st, 2007 4:52 am

    I would like to know if have any link in Bharain to do BBA.
    Thanks,
    R/

  211. Riasat says:
    August 21st, 2007 11:51 am

    What about the other Universities in Private sector. The private sector Universities charge much than the expectation of the students, whereas the public sector university can’t absorbe the students who want to get higher education.

    The government should direct the Universities in private sectors to charge fee not more than the public sector universities.

    I think in Pakistan there is nobody to listen the request of common man, who is suffering from decades. On the other hand the culture of nepotism and favouritism also deprive the common man of its rights.

    HEC should also direct the private sector Universities to imporove their standard and provide facilities to the students who spend million of rupees of geting Higher education.

    There is another duty of HEC to scrutiny the Universities in the private sector and rank them according to their standard of education.

  212. August 21st, 2007 5:56 pm

    Dear
    is there any one who can tell me about Biztek .i have to do BBA but they are sayn thatBiztek is in A category of HEC is that right plz confrm me.Or is there any other universitis iam new in karachi.
    thanks
    aayyan110@yahoo.com

  213. Murtaza says:
    August 21st, 2007 10:09 pm

    It’s sad to see no public universities whatsoever in the top list, anyhow another sad factor which has poisoned the job market in Pakistan is the fact that for instance if a manager of a good company has studied from IBA or FAST he/she will prefer to recruit graduates from those universities “only” and this culture slowly grows up to the height that you will find every individual graduating from a certain university going in and getting hired easily to a particular company which is popular for developing this kind of culture for the respective university graduates.

  214. Ahsan says:
    August 22nd, 2007 4:12 pm

    hello
    The university of lahore is said to be in the 500 top universities of the world but this is not the truth because if you want to see the real world ranking of the universities then VISIT http://www.webometrics.info on which u can see the ranking of the universities for where u come to that there is no Pakistani university in that Ranking

  215. Owais Mughal says:
    August 23rd, 2007 12:32 am

    I don’t know about other universities or colleges but I and other NEDians can provide some guidance to prospective students on NED University. Do visit the official website of the university here. There is also an active blog on NED where you can get latest news about university and alumni. It is located here
    If you need discussion with the NED alumni, then you can join one of the discussion forums here. There is an NED alumni listing at Wiki here. There is also an NED group at LinkedIn.com for Networking. It is located here.

    I hope alumni from other universities will also post information for the help of prospective students.

  216. fida hussain says:
    August 23rd, 2007 2:58 am

    i thnk insitute not best but stdnts are best becouse institute only provide atm. if students wants to get high scor otherwis imposible.

  217. Engineer Asim Habib says:
    August 23rd, 2007 1:55 pm

    I am very dissapointed that NED has ranked number ten. Because no. of students registered from that university is low. But it is not a criteria of ranking. The ranking criteria depends upon the type of education and criteria of teaching. The criteria of teaching of NED university is better than the other university. The students who passed out from that university have better knowledge than other universities. The engineers of that university is famous all over the world because of above reasons.

  218. kuchikuchi says:
    August 24th, 2007 5:26 am

    i dont agree with the rankings

  219. COOL TIGER says:
    August 26th, 2007 2:12 pm

    HI.Dear can anyone tell me that i`ve interested in BBA,so 4m where should i do. I`m 4m FAisalabad.. PLZ plz guide me.

  220. Parvez says:
    August 27th, 2007 12:14 am

    From the above comments, it is clear that these ranking are confusing and have no solid basis. To compare Pakistani universities with ones in the US serves no useful purpose except lower the morale of Pakistani students and create discord among alumni of various universities. Pakistan is relatively poor country and has to put her resources where we get the maximum benefits.

    There are two types of universities: the teaching schools and the research institutions.
    Pakistani need is mainly for teaching where received knowledge is mastered. These students go into work environment and keep on learning the application of their knowledge. This the most productive part of educational system. It would be desirable to rank teaching schools so that they can improve imparting of knowledge to the students in most efficient manner.

    The research type institution should be compared among themselves. Research is most subsidized activity the world over. There are a few areas where Pakistan should put some resources. These include agriculture, communication and computing technologies. These areas have the potential of absorbing a lot of surplus labor available in Pakistan. The defense expenditure would continue to provide resources for some of these.

    It is a sorry state of affairs that there is no mention of millions of kids who never get to get any education. There is your root cause of low expectations for all educational institutions.

  221. hassan says:
    August 27th, 2007 9:29 am

    hi.can anybody tell me that i have been admitted in lse(lahore school of economics) for bba.i have heard from many people that lse is very good institute.so please help me hurry.thanx

  222. sumaiya says:
    August 28th, 2007 6:42 am

    hi i m from peshawer and i want to ge information about city university of peshawer .please help me to taking right decsion is that good university whats the standard of it
    i want to do BBA in this university .

  223. M.Haseeb Aasim says:
    August 29th, 2007 6:23 am

    AOA
    Indeed this is a great step to rank our Universities.It will certainly make easy for us to take right decesion where to get admission.
    thanks
    Haseeb

  224. usman says:
    August 30th, 2007 2:17 am

    where institute of space & tech islmbabad stands any one knows

  225. omar says:
    August 30th, 2007 3:37 pm

    The best University in pakistan is ghulam ishaq khan university swabi because many of their student work in “Nasa, Intel Compaq,etc” the companies of pakistan is referred the degree of Ghulam ishaq khan University than any other university.

  226. Muhammad Furqan says:
    August 30th, 2007 6:21 pm

    I think there should be a ranking of teachers aslo. I think the Governemt universities are given less grades in research work as compared to private universities (e.g.GIK, NUST etc). This is all due to lack of modern laboratories in Government Universities so Government should facilitate universities with modern labs.

  227. Muhmmad Furqan says:
    August 30th, 2007 6:32 pm

    I think the best university in Pakistan is university of engineering and technology Lahore because UET Lahore has well equiped Labs, experienced teachers, good environment for studies without any politics, every facility for its students. In short UET Lahore can stand infront of each and every Engineering University of Pakistan and can defeat it in every field.

  228. August 30th, 2007 11:59 pm

    According to view punjab universty is best becose this universty provides education to poor and lower middle class at small financial budget.in this way it is best for large number of student.

  229. ASAD ALI FASTIAN says:
    August 31st, 2007 2:46 am

    IT REALLY SURPRISE ME THAT THERE IS NO NAME OF FAST KARACHI

  230. M.RIZWAN CH. says:
    September 1st, 2007 2:22 am

    Hi Dear’s
    I m muhammad rizwan from The Universty Of Faisalabad & I m stisfied with my 2nd position in Textile engineering & I apriciat my universty and its fucalty & management.I thanks GOD

  231. UMER says:
    September 1st, 2007 4:35 pm

    RANKING…. A illusion beyond a certain permitted criteria, nothing more than this, i m still amazed y NED is on 10 n especially UET on 4, well i m not comparing them but i think degree is worth whether the student has such a level or not…!

  232. saqib nawaz says:
    September 2nd, 2007 3:14 am

    good information is pasted here but i dont think that university of peshawar is above the bahauddin zakariya university multan.

  233. Muhammad Imran Yousaf says:
    September 2nd, 2007 9:26 am

    The Best University in Pakistan ” University of the Punjab”
    and Best Campus is ” Punjab University Gujranwala Campus” PUGC.

  234. Muhammad Hamza says:
    September 2nd, 2007 11:35 am

    For admission in universty for BBA

  235. September 4th, 2007 1:18 pm

    i m’n fast(isb camp).Fast is on 7th number in ranking of eng. universities.i know how much effort the they do for “advancement of sciences and tecnology”.in my opinion they should be awarded 5th or 6th place instead of uet taxila.

  236. Owais Mughal says:
    September 8th, 2007 3:28 pm

    Annual Convention 2007 of NED University’s alumni is currently going on in Silicon Valley and it can be viewed live here:

  237. Dewana Aik says:
    September 8th, 2007 5:10 pm

    “Annual Convention 2007 of NED University?s alumni is currently going on in Silicon Valley and it can be viewed live here:”

    How is this related to “University Rankings”? :D

  238. khuram shahzad says:
    September 11th, 2007 9:53 am

    dear
    I think that if i see in the context of Ranking of universities in Pakistan,i think this only waste of time and nothing else.
    If u liked to ranked pakistani university you first of see what is the system of our education, which only gives us student but we like to have in future best scientist. there is no scientist which is capable to compete even india scientist,europe which subjects read since 100 year before,we studty now a days.its just a joke that our universities have the capasity that they can have ranking as well.first look at u where u are standing in the world in terms of education.i think if u ranked pakistani insititution on top i think THE INSITITUTION WHICH PRODUCING SINGERS” now a days we are on top in singing and other related things,which also we copy from europe and now on top.there is no creative meterial produce from pakistani mind except singing ””””

  239. arsalan says:
    September 13th, 2007 11:32 am

    I think the ranking is based on the previous results of the universities.But iam very upset due to the ranking of engineering and medical university.It must be improved and NED university should be in top 5.Please it is my request to the concerned authorities.

  240. Muhammad Junaid Sadiq says:
    September 15th, 2007 5:20 am

    da ranking is gud but i request hec to help ur uni in incresing there grade at world level n 2 decrease their charges so that a normal student with marks can easily afford uni dues n get more quality edu which iz da true reward 2 his efforts…………………..i hope dat the officialz of hec will considered my request

  241. TALAL HUSSAIN says:
    September 16th, 2007 7:07 am

    I think progress has been started,but with a little slower pace.uet lahore is changing itself; new buildings with new look,turn on to gpa system etc. But it should also emphasize on teaching quality and labs should be up to date

  242. rabia says:
    September 16th, 2007 1:42 pm

    ranking universities is good but it is requested to HEC to plz emphase more on quality of education.also provide universities good teachers as well as research facilities.

  243. irfan says:
    September 17th, 2007 12:59 am

    There was a time–say, four years and nine months ago–when news that the government had been gathering up the country’s universities records might have been the making of a scandal, or even a constitutional crisis. But although there have been protests from civil libertarians and some criticism on Capitol Hill, early indications suggest the revelation could actually give a political boost to a Pakistan who hasn’t had many of those lately. The day after Today broke the story that the National Security Agency (NSA) aimed to “create a database of every university ever made” within the pakistan., as one of the paper’s sources put it, a Karachi Post–ABC

  244. CH AJMAL says:
    September 17th, 2007 3:51 pm

    pls discuss freinds abt ucp

  245. Kamal says:
    September 18th, 2007 2:02 am

    Internetional Islamic University should be in top 3 universities, because of their efforts on study in Islamic limits. And their buildings and area are large

  246. September 19th, 2007 3:27 am

    i think that sirsyed university of engineering is the best university all over in asia,because its elecronics course is the best and this university also ays attention on extra curricullar activities.this is the university which gives attention on the ersonality of students.thanks

  247. Muhammad jamil says:
    September 19th, 2007 5:29 am

    please send me the ranking of these universities operating in Peshawar pakistan….. City university, sarhad university, Iqra University, CECOS university, Preston university… which one is the best?

  248. fahad says:
    September 21st, 2007 2:33 pm

    no way how can this ranking was made COMSATS is doing much better than Mehran Univ, Quaidians are doing also good they should be no 1 PU should come more down as it is not doing so well as it should be. well i dont know why iqra was given this ranking that was surprising.

  249. aamir ali says:
    October 1st, 2007 10:50 am

    Hi i am Aamir ali shaikh i wants to read in this university.

  250. munazzah tehreem says:
    October 6th, 2007 3:38 pm

    rank of NED university ?

  251. October 8th, 2007 2:25 am

    Sir pakistan is developing day by day specialy in education sector,in that context what HEC comments about preston University in Pakistan is it at the level to study in it and get a competence degree.

  252. October 9th, 2007 1:37 am

    Hmmmmm!!!! After reading the comments of many of the people belonging to diverse areas and having variety of opinions, what I can understand is that most of the people are just flattering there own universities and there is an extra-ordinary exaggeration about their universities irrespective of the standards and quality of education of that university. What I can understand is that this ranking is made by some highly talented persons and it can’t have as many flaws as people are mentioning.

  253. October 9th, 2007 3:35 am

    HELLO dear i will say in the regards of NED university. NED is the best and eligible university for the all student entiere the pakistan and almost Iwill put on top 01 unversity in pakistan

  254. Khurram ali Khan says:
    October 9th, 2007 9:08 am

    hello there !

    It was strange not to see Dow medical college and King Edward college in the rankings of health sciences group, these colleges produces some on the best MD in the country.
    One more thing University of punjab ranks above karachi university how can it be possible? my only question is that few faculty members of punjab university are black listed.
    the raking crieteria should be according to international standards.

  255. HM LEO says:
    October 10th, 2007 12:25 am

    DEAR SIR,
    WHAT ABOUT P.A.F KIET UNIVESITY OF KARACHI
    I THINK IT IS ONE OF THE BEST UNIVERSITY IN KARACHI

  256. Abdullah says:
    October 12th, 2007 11:59 am

    Owais, I really like the ranking of the colleges and universities of pakistan, becuase in this way i would be able to know the best universities of pak. I like to study in IT and searching for the best university in any area of pakistan. I would be thankful to anyone who can help me in guiding about the university.
    thanks ,
    yours truly
    Abdullah Mohammadi

  257. saad says:
    October 17th, 2007 12:43 pm

    hi i want to take admission in bba so which one is the best universty for bba…Lse,nims,fast or any that you would prefer

  258. Hassaan Shahid Baig says:
    October 17th, 2007 2:20 pm

    first of all i wud like to add something to Sohail comments abt COMSATS that it is not a private institution, it is under federal govt.
    and next thing i want to know that why COMSATS is not included among the top ten institutions in the list of HEC???
    As i am a COMSIAN i came to know that in 2006 it was ranked on no. 7 among 114 institutions but why it is not mentioned here above???

  259. Hassaan Shahid Baig says:
    October 17th, 2007 2:27 pm

    helloow dere…Saad
    i wud like to prefer LSE the better one if u want to do it 4m Lhr but IBA of Karachi wud b the best 4 BBA…

  260. Mustafa says:
    October 18th, 2007 10:31 am

    i think that IBA is the best institude for bba

  261. waleed says:
    October 19th, 2007 6:41 am

    i am a petarian and i m in 10th now but i m thinking to leave d college only because of the admisions in ned university: the only reason 4 that is that every one dsnt go 4 forces and there at least 100 karachities in every badge out of at least 200 and every one doesnt go 4 forces so they have to come to karachi 4 higher studies……………i plead and request from the side of all petarians to please increse the seats 4 hyderabad board.

  262. October 21st, 2007 4:13 am

    Sir,It is for your information that university of veterinary and animal sciences lahore is one of the best institution in Asia.

  263. Hassaan Shahid Baig says:
    October 21st, 2007 10:44 am

    hi there, irfan
    if u are so sure abt that then du u no 4 wat feild it is best 4???

  264. ALI NAWAZ says:
    October 22nd, 2007 8:19 am

    salam.thats v nice idea of ranking and it will guide and help in selection of university.v fair ranking.

  265. Irfan Ali says:
    October 23rd, 2007 1:50 pm

    HI to All.
    here is another intresting website of Pakistan’s 3rd public secter women’s university in quetta. the hub of women’s education. so please visit the web and let me know your idea and view about this newly created website.
    http://www.sbkwu.edu.pk
    post your comment at
    http://www.sbkwu.edu.pk/contact_us.aspx
    Thnaks for your time.

  266. SunRe says:
    October 24th, 2007 7:40 am

    Dear All,

    University rankings are not undertaken by official government bodies in any of the developed world, because of their ‘innherently controversial nature’ and because ‘numerical indicators’ cannot be attached to aspects of universities. I wonder which governments in the developed world our HEC is following in conducting this exercise.

    Also since most of the categories in the rankings are professional and not general universities, I am surprised to find placement rates, starting salaries and time to land a job on graduation not amongst indicators under student.

    Just how many students at professional institutes go on to do research or aspire to do MPhils or PHDs. That is, I believe a preferential and extremely biased twist being forced upon by HEC onto the readers of the rankings. It might be linked to how HEC is indulging in trying to produce and increase the numbers of PhDs. in the country without regard to professional education.

  267. arsalan says:
    October 24th, 2007 10:45 am

    i think this ranking is not based on the perfomance of the universities.especially in engineering sector the ranking is too up set for me i personally the ned university n it should be in top 5 because it is one of the few engineering universities in Pakistan who done great job.

  268. arsalan says:
    October 24th, 2007 10:49 am

    i personally visit it it has almost 17 departments of engineering it should be in the top 5, it is my request to the concerned authorities.

  269. faisal sadiq says:
    October 25th, 2007 6:50 am

    plz can u provide me the law colleges information in islamabad and rawalpindi..i ll b thankfull for this help.

  270. ivehadit says:
    October 27th, 2007 11:34 am

    I’m disappointed at the rankings of the UET, of course. It has the largest number of graduates working in leadership positions in many of the largest corporations of the world. But thats neither here nor there.

  271. Muhammad Haroon Marwat says:
    October 28th, 2007 12:09 pm

    why is bahria university islamabad is not icluded in the business schools ranking?

  272. October 30th, 2007 12:14 am

    University of Management and Technology is one of the top universities please revise your ranking

  273. nasir gabol says:
    October 30th, 2007 8:38 am

    muet on 5th woww

  274. aamir says:
    October 30th, 2007 2:20 pm

    sir i study in balouchistan university in textile engineering ,ur means this university is not better university, many student study in this university ,most student belong to punjab,that students are foolish . give my answer?

  275. mir masood sulehria mzd says:
    October 31st, 2007 4:44 am

    Asalam-o-alaikum to all the nation,and cardial prays to the most loving “pakistan”.

  276. mir masood sulehria mzd says:
    October 31st, 2007 5:14 am

    Asalam-o-alaikum to all the nation beloved nation and deep cardial prays to the dearest “pakistan”
    I am satisfied with the ranking of the universities but i want to mansion two core issues concerned with hec.
    Firstly,hec should facilitate the progressing universities and institutes in order to provide quality education or they should adopt corrective measures.
    Secondly,hec has deprived the AJK university from its rights. hec has not given even the bottom rank to AJK univers… although it has created a revolution in different fields and showed its prestigeous performance countrywide. then ……why——-? it is treated unequally.
    otherwise,hec should facilitate it,promote its performance,monitor it properly because it is the only one govt university in AJK.I hope ,hec would take its positive notice.

  277. Agha says:
    October 31st, 2007 8:53 pm

    hi!
    im doing graduation B c s in england and this is my last year and i have no idea regarding university admission i mean entry examz 4 admission and which uni is the best 4 mobile and computering in karachi if u have any idea just plz let me know so kind of u . aghashubair@hotmail.com
    fanks!

  278. student says:
    November 3rd, 2007 2:49 pm

    u ppl look very much concerned abt NED. same like we r concerned abt our (fjwu)
    Sorry to say but idea of ranking the universities is not so good in my opinion.the ppl rank the university according to thier criteria.i am student of fjwu that was ranked quite below in the given list but how could u ppl give percentage to someone without knwing the facts.so atleast first make the ratios in every aspect equal than compare them. if govt dnt give us faciliteis then why do we suffer.

  279. talha says:
    November 4th, 2007 12:38 pm

    it is the best side of world

  280. Waqas says:
    November 5th, 2007 1:42 am

    How do you rank Virtual university is it considered a good one and does it meets the criteria of higher level studies

  281. Asma qazi says:
    November 5th, 2007 4:18 pm

    Asalam o alekum, i hav done my masters in zoology recently from G.C University Lahore, and i think it is having qiute a gud position among all other biggest universities, bcoz its quite newly born bt is progressing as compared 2 other newly declared universities.As far as i think this university should be granted more funding 4 itz research purpose.Thanx

  282. Zain Butt says:
    November 7th, 2007 9:28 am

    s far as i m concerned UET Lhr is better than NUST in terms of environment. Teachers are very able. Dont take entry test eassy. Try to get good marks in entry test and just chill in the UET. It is best in all the universities of Pakistan.

  283. Kiron Talukdar says:
    November 8th, 2007 3:49 pm

    One can’t help notice the relatively poor quality of faculty qualifications in most Pakistani universities. A significant percentage of them do not have doctorates, and what makes it worse is that very few of them have North American degrees.

    For comparison please check out any of the IIT or BUET faculty rosters.

  284. SYED ABID HUSSAIN SHAH says:
    November 10th, 2007 8:28 am

    i was also surprised to see that NED not being rated number one..but eventually come to know may be if they have been given such low marks the only reason could be its teaching staff..although they are counted amongst the best but the level of teaching was lagging…i may be wrong but this is what i have percieved

  285. Muhammad Saleh (M.Sc Geophysics) says:
    November 12th, 2007 12:34 am

    Its great to see my Educational Mother (direct translation of Mad’er-e-Ilmee) to top the list.
    They are right who say “Quidian Once Quaidian Forever”.
    Quaid-i-Azam “forever” Zinda Baad,
    Quaid-i-Azam University “forever” Pae’nda Baad”.

  286. Nauman says:
    November 13th, 2007 8:42 am

    hi.i want to say that iba and lums are best for management sciences but you have to take care about your budjet i mean to say if you are financially strong then i recommend these both for bba otherwise comsats or punjab university is main option you should consider.

  287. November 14th, 2007 1:22 am

    Why most of people shout at the ranking? where as i am appreciating this first step towards successful future Universities Ranking System. Why we always see the black holes? Come on my nation, have a big heart, don’t criticize at the beginning, let them appreciate and have see what will be next by our suggestion. The basic theme was to introduce some rule, some system. :)

  288. sonia says:
    November 15th, 2007 12:57 am

    PUNJAB UNIVERSITY ROCKS !

    You need merit to be there, not like private, where you need just Dad to keep you in private sector, any division would work for you.

  289. Shahzad says:
    November 16th, 2007 2:14 am

    Hi

    I am graduate from NED University and right now i am doing masters in Canada. I dont know the ranking criteria of Universities in Pakistan. I would like to write first the fact and figures. I am doing masters in Canada and i found very few students from top 6 Engineering Universities. Most of the students are from NED University. It means the students from NED are more reconganize in USA and Canada as compare to other Universities. HEC should rank the Universities according to the Research, Employment, and Students intake to international Universities for Higher studies criteria.

  290. November 19th, 2007 10:50 pm

    pakistan university ranking is on merit.
    but in my oppinion some universities are ignored in the ranking like university of sargodha.

  291. November 21st, 2007 10:35 pm

    yah…… This is correct and best collection of Univresties Ranking.

  292. khadim Ch says:
    November 23rd, 2007 3:27 am

    Owais interesting readings….Can we have discussion on Where we need universities…Govt is building foreigh universities in big cities.. like lahore, karachi, islamabad, sialkot……I am from Multan south punjab…..the students of Multan, DG KHAN Bahawlpur and Rahim Yar khan has to travel to Lahore for engineering and technology education…..The whole region is deprived of quality university of Science and Technology……at the same time UET Lahore is having its campus at Kala Shah Kaku adjacent to lahore and faisalabad….while UET Taxila in Chakwal….Can we left South punjab in it….I think No….Punjab Govt has promised but couldnt deliver it…..

  293. Hamid Iqbal Khan swati says:
    November 26th, 2007 5:53 am

    oh
    I was astonished to see peshawar university at no 4.

  294. Shahzada zeeshan waheed says:
    November 26th, 2007 6:18 am

    I m very pleased, when i see this ranking. because i m reading in UET LAHORE. i want to ask something that what is the ranking of Islamic International University Islamabad.
    i m waiting for your reply

  295. Naqash Haider says:
    November 26th, 2007 10:09 am

    I never accept these rankings of universities because these rankings destroying our educational system by making student’s mind vivid in thinking.

  296. jawad says:
    November 26th, 2007 10:53 pm

    according to my point of view GIFT university should be included in the general university ranking.im a student of international islamic university Islamabad and it is said to be the 2nd top universityu of pakistan but it is not included in any rank of university..

  297. Imtiaz Ali says:
    November 27th, 2007 12:51 pm

    I got degree from UET which have 4th poistion in Enginnering Universities in Pakistan any how I think UET Lahore must be at TOP due to future educationist belongs to UET Lahore.

  298. Zulfiqar Bukhari says:
    November 27th, 2007 10:50 pm

    Please give me fee information and also confirm me future of executive MBA in Pakistan, & all iformation if i want to do executive MBA.

    Thanks

    Zulfiqar bukhari
    Relationship Officer
    Bank Alfalah Ltd
    Seaview Branch
    Karachi.

  299. Dr Ahmad Bilal Qamar says:
    November 29th, 2007 2:06 am

    University of Agriculture, Faisalabad, Pakistan is having highest number of Research projects, PhD Scholars, Foriegn qulified PhD researchers, Research collaboration with foriegn universities in Pakistan

  300. Khuram says:
    November 29th, 2007 7:35 am

    Where’s the complete list of universities ? where’s Islamic University Islamabad ?? This list is fake.

  301. November 30th, 2007 6:18 am

    Thanks for the sharing

  302. Shahnawaz says:
    December 4th, 2007 4:40 pm

    plz give me information about DAWOOD COLLEGE AND ENGINEERING AND TECNOLOGY…..

  303. Owais Mughal says:
    December 4th, 2007 10:57 pm

    There was a brief news in today’s Jang that only 3 pakistani universities made up to top 600 World University rankings released by Times. Top Pak university came out to be NUST (ranked around 450+) second Karachi University (500+) and third was some university in NWFP. I cannot recall the name right now.

  304. ingunyama says:
    December 5th, 2007 4:05 am

    I think it’d be better for HEC to standardise. Ranking is a bad idea. It will label a graduate as 3rd class university grad or something and they might be discriminated on that basis. So HEC should make standards recommendation for specific types of universities (technical, agricultural, medical, general), send the standards to universities and give practical advice to Universities as to how they can imporve the ‘quality’ of education. Above all the knowledge about university facilities should be up to date. eg. HEC published a ranking of universities conducting research work. Internation Islamic Univeristy, Islamabad was reported as zero research work while the students, faculty and administration tells a different story. So HEC needs to be a lot careful before blurting out such comments about universities as people take their comments seriously.

  305. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    December 5th, 2007 5:16 am

    Owais Mughal:

    The third university is not in NWFP but in Islamabad, the famous QAU (Quaid-e-Azam University). I wonder how NUST made it to the top? Perhaps because of the state patronage it gets, being the Generals’ university, at the expense of the rest of the institutions.

  306. Owais Mughal says:
    December 5th, 2007 7:34 am

    Ahmad Shahid sahab
    you are right. the third highest ranking university in Pakistan that i forgot about is QAzam University Islamabad. thanks

  307. December 7th, 2007 10:48 am

    well..!!! i am quite surprised abt Sir Syed University Of Engg N Tech..!!! Karachi..!!!

    what abt it..!!????

    Imran
    From
    Karachi.

  308. Muhammad says:
    December 10th, 2007 9:14 am

    Let us accept and respect the decision of Ranking. This process will give chance to Univeristies shown in lower position. Although Mehran Engg Univ, Sindh, one of the best Univ, in my opinion was placed at No:5 in Engg Universities. However, my ex- University Mehran should take further steps to move up in the ranking. Likewise other people should adopt postive attitude towards this trend of Ranking.

  309. Farhan Ahmad says:
    December 14th, 2007 2:44 am

    Hello All, surprised to see these rankings. NED, has always produced best engineering talents. Just compare the managers working in the industry, out of every 3 one is NEDIAN.The situation is still the same. Then, consider the number of graduates persuing their education abroad. Most of them are from NED. It was amazingly biased .

  310. Sarim says:
    December 14th, 2007 4:50 am

    Well, quite surprised too .(Mehran UET Vs NED UET)

    Being a successful graduate from NED I know very well that Mehran University can’t compete with NED at any level. I don’t know what is the critaria adopted here for the ranking.

    2ndly Its a fact that NED always Got the cream of top most students from HSC who are already quite capable of performing best in even worst conditions and yes there is a lacking at teachers side and faculty have to do a lot more hardwork or experiments to reach upto the best level.

  311. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    December 14th, 2007 7:19 am

    I think another advantge to NED is its location in the hub of the economy, Karachi. Education is much more than mere studying course books and passing exams. Mega cities like Karachi, groom you more than any educational institution. No wonder NEDians, who combine the toughness in studies to the rough and tough of real life, rise in the real world. Same applies to UET Lahore and LUMS.

  312. hira says:
    December 15th, 2007 9:25 am

    hi i m from uet lahore it is famous and poplaruni in pakistan.thanks

  313. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    December 15th, 2007 9:46 am

    I think for BCS, the best place is LUMS. It has got the best faculty available for the area. It also offers a wide range of courses.

    Second best I would say is FAST.

  314. Imran says:
    December 15th, 2007 12:07 pm

    Where does virtual university stand

  315. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    December 15th, 2007 12:48 pm

    Virtual university stands virtually no where. Its a non-starter in Pakistan for many reasons but mainly the lack of broadband and other high speed networks. Secondly its always better to have regular classes because you develop a lot of other skills from there. Thirdly there is no such thing as “faculty” there. Things are too ad-hoc.

  316. kamran says:
    December 16th, 2007 9:37 am

    i want to say in m phil or phd program no much depends upon university but its only depends upon person who will superwise u ………..and urs own interest……thanx from kamran rasool awan

  317. Zubair Mustafa Tunio says:
    December 23rd, 2007 3:30 pm

    hi!one think im telling to webmaster that plz include my university name in orderto get populatrity in world as well as so im requesting u plz add my univ name Quaid-e-Awam University Of Engineering Science & Technolgy Sindh Pakistan.www.quest.edu.pk

  318. shariq says:
    December 24th, 2007 9:50 am

    i become in tense to see the ranking of NED.i cannot believe that NED loses their repution day by day,its a very bad news.I have a request for NEDIAN that they should perform an outstanding performances so that they university ranked is in top one.

  319. m anees khan says:
    December 25th, 2007 11:36 pm

    i think this is a very good idea.but one thing i would want to say that; please please throw away army from the education. i am the student of national textile university, and here our vice chancellor is an retired army officer. hec has done alot forv the education but that last bold step should be taken now, if we want to deliver on the international level.

  320. m anees khan says:
    December 25th, 2007 11:45 pm

    one thing i also add that; most of the universities in pakistan are not recogonized by pec, while hec has recogonized them. what will be future of these students studyiny in these universities in pakistan as they sant apply for msc programme in pakistan according to rule’s of pec.
    please forward this to chairman of hec and pec.
    and also inform me of their comments.
    thank you.

  321. Sabir says:
    December 27th, 2007 7:27 pm

    The standardization or ranking is a process to show the demand of the day. This demand may be right or wrong but it displays the trend of an institution, or of the nation itself, if the institution is recognised by the nation as an standard itself.

    If HEC is recognised as an standard in Pakistan then the ranking released by it would be the voice of nation. We all Pakistanis should accept that. Because it is also going abroad for showing our trend. If our nation’s standard of education is rising the we will show the actual highest institution/university to be on the top. But on the other hand if our standard is diving to a lower value then we will display the lower standard university to be on top. That is our trend.

    For unbiassed standardisation some other parameters are definitely required for measuring the quality of a university not the marks granted in degrees. That correct standard may be use of GRE scores achieved by average student of a university.

    Ambitions play significant role in declaring oneself to be on top but that may or may not be correct. Some external unbiassed analysis may yield a better ranking contrary to ambitions to soar high.

  322. December 28th, 2007 3:36 pm

    wat about sir syed university of engg. & tech., it is at which rank

  323. usman says:
    December 29th, 2007 1:01 pm

    [quote]Well, my friend 5000, It just so happened that there was a King and Queen in England for whom the colleges were named. Just as Kind Edwarde Medical College in Lahore and Edwarde

  324. sohail says:
    January 2nd, 2008 2:59 am

    University of Balochistan is missing in the general education list of ranking.is this is an error or it is not under any ranking?

  325. adnan says:
    January 2nd, 2008 4:12 am

    comsats is also good institution

  326. January 2nd, 2008 4:20 am

    comsats is missing from this list add this in the list because nishterian (Aamir,Adnan,Bilal) are doing Bs-physics from there.

  327. January 2nd, 2008 4:23 am

    comsats is the best.

  328. Shariq Ahmed Riazi says:
    January 3rd, 2008 7:01 am

    I have been to NED as a student for 4 years and i am aware of in and outs of that institute.
    Its basically no point to compare it with other highly equipped and high fees institutions of Pakistan as in NED there are students irrespctive of their family background without any requirement of fees.
    In my Intermediate i have seen boys and girls targetting NED and working out their best in their high school for the best grades so that they can be admitted in NED and get their degree from there. I know that i cant justify the fact that students are brilliant and NED is not adding any value, but still guys working in market are accepting the fact that this university has given them a System and available infrastructure in the best available shape and way.
    My concern is that we are nowhere in the world ranking top intitutes even LUMS has no standing internationally so we should now gear up and stand somewhere internationally.

  329. uzma says:
    January 3rd, 2008 7:11 am

    what is this i am seeing no where anything about fatima jinnah women university

  330. Dewana Aik says:
    January 3rd, 2008 9:23 pm

    Dr Mujahid Kamran made VC of Punjab University. Let’s hope he can put some sense into PU system…if only Jamaatis will let him do it.

  331. Dewana Aik says:
    January 3rd, 2008 10:03 pm

    Embattled Prof Dr Kamran made PU VC

    Facing a case for creating law and order situation | He has been highly critical of government

  332. Dewana Aik says:
    January 3rd, 2008 11:02 pm

    “The Dean Faculty of Science, Professor Dr Mujahid Kamran, was the person who pointed out to the university administration in April last year that the director of the Centre for High Energy Physics (CHEP) and at least four faculty members of the same centre were involved in plagiarism. ”

    http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/apr2007-weekly/nos-22-04-2007/enc.htm#1

    Dr Kamran blew whistle on plagiarisms in PU. Let’s see is he

  333. sabawoon says:
    January 4th, 2008 10:11 am

    hi
    this is sabawoon from peshawar
    my nationality from afghanistan can some one give me admission in peshawar university
    it can be and any one.

  334. Muhammad Uzair Sukhera says:
    January 4th, 2008 4:15 pm

    I have made a fair bit of attempt to read the 300+ comments of this topic. Personally i think the whole debate is pointless. Half of the time there was hue n cry over NED’s ranking. (maybe because NED graduates are persuing post-graduate studies abroad in a greater no. than some other universities).

    I have a suggestion here. Since the HEC’s criteria is pretty much obscured, we should introduce our universites here for the general information of the readers. All those who are lamenting the low ranking of their university will get a fair chance to represent thier institute.

    Some genral guidelines should be agreed upon for this representation e.g.
    1) Standard of Labs
    2)Competence of teachers
    3)Qualification of teachers
    4)student bodies
    5)general atmosphere
    6)research facilities
    7)university campuses
    8)HEC and PEC recognition
    9)affiliation with international institutes etc
    10)Post Graduate studies
    etc
    If some people agree on this we should proceed right on. followed by the reader’s responses to the university description given by other writers.
    What do u people say?

    PS: if some people give a go ahead. I will be representing NUST

  335. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    January 4th, 2008 4:35 pm

    I think PEC recognition is a big farce.

  336. Owais Mughal says:
    January 4th, 2008 7:48 pm

    Why do we think PEC recognition is a farce?

  337. Kamal says:
    January 5th, 2008 12:05 pm

    Prof Kamran was able to sort out Jamaatis in the Physics Department when he was its chairman during the late 90s. Imran Khan incident at PU removed the fear of Jamaatis from the heart of the students. I think things will greatly improve at PU during his tenure. Just look at the educational and professional rise in the Physics Department under his leadership. (Plagiarists were from CHEP and not Physics Department itself.)

  338. basim khan says:
    January 5th, 2008 2:50 pm

    what about sindh universty..if we think the most oldest universty in pakistan..and it ignore from many years..what lacks in univesity of sindh

  339. January 7th, 2008 6:59 am

    salaam to ever one;
    i syed talat hussain student of sir syed university of Engineering and technology,karachi.Our university is best in all field,as you can see in the field of jobs in pakistan many students of SSUET working perfectly.

  340. Zubair Mustafa Tunio says:
    January 7th, 2008 8:31 am

    Where is top Ten list?also where is QUAID-E-AWAM UNIVERSITY OF ENGINEERING SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY NAWABSHAH-SINDH why u r ignorining this university?

  341. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    January 7th, 2008 8:52 am

    @Owais Mughal

    PEC is a big farce for many reasons. I am also a PEC recognized “professional engineer”, which doesn’t entail anything more than that. I don’t get any benefits out of it, nor does the society except the babus sitting within the PEC building and those heading and running the show.

    Secondly HEC has started making PEC recognized faculty as the cornerstone of its policy on higher education in Engineering. That is making things worse. Like the Computer Science is a very important area in Engineering. In fact normally Computer Science departments are part of the Engineering departments and there is often talk of merging it with electrical/electronic engineering. So the gurus of the two fields don’t really see them apart. But what HEC’s policy is? It wants people to be PEC recognized and to get PEC recognized you need to have the name “engineering” in your degree. Apparently in Computer Science the closest qualification is “Software Engineering”. Now what is happening is that just to get PEC recognized students and universities have geared courses and their choice of degrees to Software Engineering, with a lot of courses related to the subject. But Software Engineering is just one part of Computer Science, with others being Networking, Artificial Intelligence, Algorithmics, Databases, Theorectical Computer Science, Computer Graphics and a few others. One can be a very good computer scientist without being good at Software Engineering, but the PEC won’t recognize them as “Professional Engineers” and the universities in Pakistan, given the guidelines given by the HEC, might not be interested in hiring them. Though for the economy many of them might be more useful such as the ones specializing in Computer Graphics who are the people behind the computer games and stuff, a high money making business.

    Sometimes people are even refused scholarships for higher studies because they want to do it in Computer Science and since it is not recognized by the PEC so the universities don’t really want them. How stupid!

    In the modern age new fields are emerging as a result of integration of different fields. In which category would you put the Bio-Informaticists? They are not medical people per se, and not computer scientists or engineers. So PEC won’t recognize them nor would they be counted among the medical personnel. Though they may know a lot about some of the core Computer Science subjects, such as Algorithmics and Aritificial Intelligence. But universities might be reluctant to let them teach Algorithmics to Software Engineering students. How stupid!

    HEC must come out of the shadow of Atta-ur-Rehman who thinks very highly of himself and thinks he knows everything. A feature not different from retired military officers. Both these species are highly dangerous for the higher education in Pakistan.

  342. Owais Mughal says:
    January 7th, 2008 10:44 am

    Ahmad Shahid saheb, thanks for sharing your view on PEC. I was curious that is why I asked.

  343. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    January 7th, 2008 12:20 pm

    @Owais Mughal

    An implication of HEC’s policy that I have observed in the Computer Science departments within the Pakistani universities is that a lot of faculty is now specialized in Software Engineering perhaps much more than we actually need at the expense of other specializations. The result is that it is becoming increasingly impossible to find people specialized in Artificial Intelligence, Theoretical Computer Science, Computer Graphics and a few other courses while almost anybody can teach Software Engineering, Computer Networks and Databases.

  344. Aquarian says:
    January 7th, 2008 11:59 pm

    This letter to the editor appears in today’s dawn and it talks about corruption in our universities.

  345. Owais Mughal says:
    January 8th, 2008 12:13 am

    If I were to rank Pakistani Engineering Universities, then this will be my ranking

    1. GIK, Topi
    2. NUST, distributed campuses
    3. UET, Peshawar
    4. UET, Lahore
    5. NED, Karachi
    6. UET, Taxila
    7. MUET, Jamshoro

  346. Areeba says:
    January 9th, 2008 10:04 am

    Would you people tell me something about Bahria University Karachi, As it is NOT LISTED on HEC website.
    Is it a Reccognized Degree awarding institution??
    Why did HEC not even mentioned its name on their website??
    Why is Bahria University TOO silent about the matter??

  347. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    January 9th, 2008 3:36 pm

    Probably because Bahria University is just too weak academically to make a case. I don’t know about the Karachi campus but I have been to the Islamabad campus many a times. Things are really not good there. Specially the faculty is not good enough. But still it has become a norm in Pakistan that people think that every educational institution run by the military or its branches would be good. Which I don’t think is true.

    If I talk of Computer Science, I rank both NUST and Bahria below LUMS, FAST, GIKI, and COMSATS, all of which can boast of much better faculty than NUST or Bahria.

  348. Mohsin says:
    January 9th, 2008 6:26 pm

    Comsats is not even considered in the normal universities because its merit is very very low and anyone can get admission there… the repute of the university depends on its merit and on that how much ppl are desperate to get admission there… Pakistan has no such ranking… talking about ranking than PMA (pakistan military academy would be in the bottom) but its the great institute in pakistan.

    UET, NUST, GIKI, NED, SSUET, and those which has high merits are great institutes… rest of all are same..

  349. uzair says:
    January 9th, 2008 11:36 pm

    which one is better for BBA fast or lahore school of economics…reply urgent

  350. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    January 10th, 2008 5:21 am

    I think its the quality of the faculty that ultimately matters and not how much people are desperate to join the university. If COMSATS can maintain the quality of its faculty, which in Computer Science at least, is better than NUST and many others, then it would start making its mark.

  351. kashif says:
    January 12th, 2008 7:29 pm

    How come King Edward medical college is not included in the list of medical schools. I think K.E is one of the best medical school and should be on the list. But thanks for posting the list. Is it possible to find the resources about the listing.

  352. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    January 13th, 2008 7:28 am

    @Kashif

    Is King Edward still a college affiliated with a university or is it itself a university?

  353. Shameem Hassan says:
    January 14th, 2008 4:16 pm

    In terms of landing a good stable job in the field of engineering in Pakistan, would it be wiser to send my son abroad for a foreign degree or would graduating from the top university, either NUST or GIK, be a better option? I have heard conflicting information from various sources. A degree from a top pakistani university would make sense as it would be more relevent to pakistan and allow for local job experience. Lastly, would the local degree be recognized internationally?

  354. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    January 14th, 2008 8:14 pm

    @Shameem Hassan

    A lot depends on what exactly your son wants to study because every university is not good at every thing. Also if you could mention the foreign universities in which you are interested to send your son, which country etc. There are a lot of factors to be considered.

    Recognition of a local degree depends on a number of factors, such as the demand for the skills in foreign countries. If there is lesser demand for skills, they won’t accept a Pakistani degree. But if there is more demand for those skills and lesser number of people possess them then he might be considered by companies working abroad.

    If you could please narrow down your search to the following:

    1) Which degree he wants to pursue?
    2) Which foreign universities he is interested in and in which countries?
    3) Does he want to go into the job market right after his degree or would like to pursue post-graduation qualifications?

  355. Nouman says:
    January 15th, 2008 10:14 am

    The education in Pakistan is very expensive and an ordinary man is totally disable to enlightened his mind with this education.

  356. Owais Mughal says:
    January 15th, 2008 10:26 am

    A letter to the editor that appeared in Pakistan link alleging falling standard at NED. Read Here

  357. Rehaan says:
    January 15th, 2008 11:57 am

    I received below response from chairman Higher Education Commission for my email also below;

    Dear xxxxxx sahib,
    Thank you for your Email dated 13 January. I fully agree with you. I am writing to the Vice Chancellor in the matter.
    With kind regards,
    Yours sincerely,

    Prof. Dr. Atta-ur-Rahman, FRS
    Chairman (Federal Minister)
    Higher Education Commission
    Sector H-9, Islamabad
    PAKISTAN

    Tele: + 92 51 9259201
    Fax: + 92 51 9259203
    ________________________________________
    From: xxxxxx
    Sent: xxxxxxx
    To: chairman hec
    Subject: UET descriminating on religious grounds?

    Dear Dr Dr Atta-ur-Rahman

    AA

    I hope you are well by the grace of Allah.

    The UET Lahore has on this link http://tinyurl.com/yrfhy6 the Undergraduate Application form and it contains the following declaration;

    Muslim Only
    A) I solemnly declare that I believe that Hazrat Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the last prophet of Allah and there is and was no prophet of Allah. And that I have firm faith in Islam and I am not the follower of any such person who claims to be a prophet of religious reformer after Hazrat Muhammad (peace be upon him). I do not belong to Qadiani, Ahmadi or Lahori Groups.

    My question is, does the UET offer any special scholarships or facilities to the Qadiani/Ahmadi/Lahori group members and therefore need to identify them or is it just a case of religious discrimination? If the universities all over the world can do without getting into religious affiliation of candidates, why can

  358. January 17th, 2008 11:02 am

    This is very good but pu is best

  359. January 18th, 2008 12:59 am

    Pay to salam everyone.
    Respected Sir,
    i m a student of electrical engineering ,Engineering department of (ISLAMIA UNIVERSTY OF BAHWALPUR)
    sir our deprtments have a four technology Electronics,Electrical,Telecom and Computer.
    respected sir why r u neglecting recognize from (PEC) this engineering department .kindly sir plz solve this problam.
    special thanx.
    Muhamaad Saleem
    student of electrical engineering.

  360. farrukh says:
    January 18th, 2008 5:44 am

    SIR SYED UNIVERSITY is best

  361. Sajjad says:
    January 18th, 2008 6:17 am

    I agree witht he NED Crowd that they deserve a better ranking. The ranking that universirty has Achieved is because of its quite different policies than other Engineering Universities. Few of them that i know are :

    1 – Selection is purely based on Intermediate results. Candidate taking 40 marks in admission test has the same level as the one who takes 100 marks. The game is won by the guy who has a better score in intermediate. everyone knows, Intermediate Boards can be influnced.
    MUET and its affiliate in Nawabshah are surely not better than NED when it comes to Student Quality. But just look at this, There Entrance tests are conducated by IBA and now by NTS. The test results actually decide the fate. if a student have been hit bad by Board results, then he has a chance to improve in these results. Same applies to students declared bright by Education Board, if they are really good then they will get good marks in test.

    2 – The Qouta system in NED is based on Education Boards accross the Country. thus, Candidates with karachi based Intermediate have better chances to get in. This closes doors to students willing to get admission at NED from rest of the country.

    3 – Being a MUETAlumna, I can compare Infrastrcuture of the both the universities and My observations are NED needs to improve when it comes to buildings, Equipment availability, Use of Current Resources and some permanent Faculty.

    I have attended several workshops at NED and I see it as a better Engineering University in Pakistan.

  362. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    January 18th, 2008 9:45 am

    NTS is no objective measure of the worth of the student. I have taken it twice and also have feed back from other guys who took the exam. The questions are copied as such from Barron’s GRE preperation guide. If some one has done that particular exercise from Barron’s that is asked in the NTS, he/she is lucky and gets a high score as compared to the one who failed to do that particular exercise.

    The idea of GRE is totally different. Here each time the questions asked are different because a team of experts prepares them and they are not to be found in the Barron’s book. So its not just about whether you have gone through a particular exercise in Barron’s or not but how much you have prepared for that. Since no questions asked in GRE can be called really intelligent questions, except the new Analytical Writing questions, so it measures more how much effort you have put in rather than how intelligent you are.

    I think in order to improve the NTS, HEC must appoint a team of very capable professors who should prepare the questions, not from Barron’s but from their own minds. I wonder what if ETS gets to know about NTS and files a suite against it, being the violation of copyright act.

  363. waseem ijaz says:
    January 18th, 2008 3:59 pm

    well its nice to know Pakistan has started the ranking system it wil increase the competition among universities as well as their education level too

    but its sad to knowFAST universitie is not in 1st 3 although i have studied in FAST n NUST both and i prefered FAST over NUST because of thier teaching standards n staff.

  364. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    January 18th, 2008 4:49 pm

    @Waseem Ijaz

    I fully agree with you that FAST is much better than NUST.

  365. Yasir Ali Bhatti says:
    January 21st, 2008 6:19 am

    hi
    it,s brilliant system i am agree with HEC but they must consider priviate universities and their student basically i am the part of
    PAF-KIET i am undergraduate student in Engineering faculty
    and i hope once we means KIET will count among top universities/institutes . further i appreciate this the system of ranking it,s remarkable and terrific

  366. Asad says:
    January 26th, 2008 10:11 am

    NED uet is a very good institution,but the bad ranking is due to the official people of ned uet.They do not use the fund on university.Where the funds go?no one knows, but the official people do.i think they are the basic reason for the bad ranking.

  367. January 26th, 2008 10:35 am

    NED was once on the top.But now it has 10th ranking,this is due to the documents which the officials didnt handeled well.that was their performance.the phd teachers are on leave also.

  368. Umair says:
    January 30th, 2008 8:45 am

    i thnk that i surprisd that the International Islamic univrsity Islamabad campus was including in th ranking in General 2 and Management sciences in 3,

    if w considered total student pool thn lik Intrnational Islmic university Islamabd hav a big Ambions

  369. Nazia says:
    February 1st, 2008 6:41 am

    Federal urdu university of arts,science and tehcnology islmabad is the best for MBA due to low merit and less fees.

  370. meraj says:
    February 1st, 2008 3:01 pm

    what u people say about ssuet.I heard that its electronic engineering department is better then NED .Do tell me

  371. February 5th, 2008 1:38 am

    i was really shocked to read this ranking of medical colleges provided by u.it is to inform u that where is AYUB MEDICAL COLLEGE ABBOTTABAD,it is the most prestigious institution of medical sciences,plz do include it in the top 3 rankings of medical colleges of pakistan

  372. February 5th, 2008 3:08 am

    What a surprised and astonishing ranking by HEC? what meant by finance and students?
    Actually the ranking must be based on Quality not Quantity.
    The criteria for ranking must be based on the no of researches from university, faculty, facilities, inventions and students in the field.

  373. Aisha says:
    February 7th, 2008 6:36 am

    wherez ur MAJU………..?????? Hehehehehehe :-))

  374. Waqar Shakir says:
    February 7th, 2008 7:32 am

    Ranking of university is very good. Through this every student can easily under stand the position of every university in pakistan.

  375. saqib says:
    February 9th, 2008 10:17 am

    comsats should b one of them

  376. Muhammad Uzair Sukhera says:
    February 13th, 2008 4:05 pm

    Once more bringing forth the suggestion:

    why critisize HEC for all this mess? Why dont we represent our own universities here? May be it wud be of some help to newcomers!

  377. Vitayaar says:
    February 14th, 2008 8:02 pm

    University ranking? Does it matter one bit? How can any of them be called a university if there is no real research conducted at any of them?

  378. Nauman Mustafa says:
    February 18th, 2008 4:23 pm

    I guess there can be two separate University ranking systems.

    1. based on this existing criteria with some fine tuning

    2. based on talent pool that they generate.

    and I agree that (2) does not necessarily depend on ( 1), although it does help.

    NED is a perfect example where they may not be ranked 1, but they do produce top talent and hence must be ranked 1 in this category.

    They however need to improve on facilities, faculty, research and especially to bring their curriculum up to date.

  379. Owais Mughal says:
    February 22nd, 2008 11:05 am

    This post has recently crossed the 50000 hits mark in roughly 16 months since it was published. It is also the first one to do so at ATP. This shows a big need of career counselling in Pakistan’s teenagers coming out of HSC. Looks like there is a genuine need of a ranking system where prospective students can compare the universities they are applying to.

  380. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    February 23rd, 2008 8:54 am

    @Owais Mughal

    Everytime I click on this topic an ad comes up on my screen. I have to go back and click again. So probably it counts it as two clicks and not as one. Probably that is the reason behind such a high number of hits. Otherwise we can safely assume that the independent hits were just around 25,000.

  381. ATP Administrator says:
    February 23rd, 2008 10:20 am

    Dear Ahmed Shahid,

    No they still count as one click. On some posts some readers (never more than once per visit) will encounter an ad that you can skip by clicking at top-right button. However, these do NOT add to click.

    Not that click counts really matter that much …. for techies here, we can tell you that the click counts are wrong for other technical reasons…. and they usually undercount (mostly when there is a rush of readers on a post, the counter for some reason stalls at a threshold…. just in case some folks worry about these things ;-)

  382. Dewana Phir Say says:
    February 23rd, 2008 10:23 am

    Five PU physicists shown the door: Plagiarism case

    Lahore, Feb 23, 2008: Punjab Governor Khalid Maqbool has compulsorily retired the former director and four faculty members of the Centre for High Energy Physics, Punjab University, after a probe body found them guilty in the plagiarism case.

    “The director and the four faculty members of CHEP have knowingly indulged in plagiarism”, the two-member inquiry Committee stated in its report to the governor.

    The wrongdoing by CHEP’s five faculty members surfaced in 2006 when the then PU faculty of science dean Prof Dr Mujahid Kamran, now PU vice-chancellor, filed a complaint that the CHEP faculty members had plagiarized international research papers.

    http://www.interface.edu.pk/students/Feb-08/PU-GCU-Plagiarism.asp

  383. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    February 23rd, 2008 4:31 pm

    @ATP Administrator

    Thank you for the clarification.

  384. IJAZ ALI SHOUKAT says:
    February 26th, 2008 12:41 am

    Complete Ranking of all other Universities should must be done by HEC, NOW in 2008.
    MS-Computer Science students admit in last MSCS adminission & currently Studying with their Univeristy name are as follows,
    Quad-e-Azam University Islamabad = 8 Students
    Punjab University Lahore = 6 Students
    GC University, Lahore = 10 Students exact
    UET, Lahore = 27 Students aprox.
    Comsats CIIT, Lahore = 30 Students aprox.

    So Punjab univeristy, Quaid-e-azam Univ. & GC University Lahore have very much tuff criteria to award admission by follows the policy i.e MS(CS) students are not more than 10

  385. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    February 26th, 2008 6:29 am

    @IJAZ ALI SHOUKAT

    Or is it because not many people applied at these universities? I don’t believe that a university admitting only 6 students to a course has really tough criteria. Since 6 students are too few to make the program “financially viable”. That is why all the universities define the minimum number to be admitted so that the program remains financially viable.

  386. Auwais says:
    February 26th, 2008 2:47 pm

    i study in mechanical engg department of UET Taxila. Our department has got 4 foreign professors in their faculty. there is a whole new hostel for the foreign faculty and new facilities are developed, Few years back there were barely any PhD there. Now almost half the faulty will have PhD qualifications in a few years.

    Still i think the main reason for slow development is sluggish beuraucracy. It is just not possible for students to get financial support for projects and hence no research and development

  387. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    February 26th, 2008 3:28 pm

    I don’t think Pakistan needs R&D. Its just a political joke. We need to produce good engineers and not researchers. Thus we don’t really need PhDs at the university.

  388. Owais Mughal says:
    February 26th, 2008 3:55 pm

    Ahmad Shahid saheb, I respectfully disagree. PhDs and genuine R&D together form the backbone of a country’s self sufficiency effort. Without PhDs and R&D effort, it is like blind leading the blind in universities and will result in a country which is always dependent on imports (as it is now). Also the worldwide university rankings include weightage to PhD faculty.

  389. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    February 26th, 2008 4:21 pm

    @Owais Mughal

    Well I beg to differ on that on many accounts.

    Only those countries need to do research that have reached a certain level of development and for further growth they have to offer something new, which requires research. Only the least-cost path is the best path. For any country it is better to develop without giving too much input. In other words the growth rates are high if the ratio of output to input is high. The advantage with the under-developed economies, such as Pakistan, is that they can produce very high growth rates without coming up new ideas and by just adopting and adapting the technologies that are already developed. The rich world has to do research because their markets are saturated with the traditional things. How many more TVs can they sell? How many more cars can they sell? So they have to offer something new to sell their products. Thats where the research comes in.

    Also research is only needed if there is big or huge market for something. America is too far ahead in Aircraft technology, not because just like Dr. Atta-ur-Rehman they “felt” the need for research but because they have the biggest market in the world for the aircrafts. They are so advanced in computer technology because they are the biggest market for the computers, both hardware and software, in the world. Now China is gradually taking over the USA in the volumes game in almost everything. Still China doesn’t feel too much need for research. But if China’s market is saturated and the companies can’t make more money by selling the same products, and they already sell the most-developed products, then for the companies to growth further would create new products. That is a natural way of doing things. Till now apart from a few things China is not too keen on developing its own technologies because research is costly and the ratio of output to input is low for countries which have to rely on research. No wonder the growth rates for the developed world hardly ever go pass the 3% mark. For countries like Pakistan, even 4-5% is considered low, and that is precisely because of the same reason that in countries like Pakistan where people haven’t yet even adopted the already developed technology, companies can grow without coming up with new products. The cost that Pakistan saves by not spending on research yields higher growth rates for the same input.

    We would automatically move into the research gear if our markets are saturated for a particular product and for the companies to grow further they would have to come up with something new. In my opinion it would happen in the mobile telephone sector within a few years. Already there are around 78.7 million mobiles and by 2010 that number is expected to reach 100 million. With that we would be able to achieve the economy of scale and once the market is saturated the companies would have to come up with something new in mobile phones otherwise they won’t be able to grow. They might start developing mobiles keeping in mind the tastes of the people and might start research on that. For instance, they might try to come up with mobiles with even larger battery life, or they would try to come up with the cheapest mobile to sell in the rural areas.

    But till the time our market is not saturated for any product then we shouldn’t spend anything on research and should rather try to increase productivity of the labor force with better vocational training. That would be the least cost path to development and according to William of Ockham “the simplest hypothesis is the best hypothesis”.

  390. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    February 26th, 2008 4:25 pm

    The rhetoric of R&D is only beneficial for the careers of the individuals and not for the benefit of the society at large.

  391. Owais Mughal says:
    February 26th, 2008 4:50 pm

    Ahmad Shahid. Got your point on the need of R&D’s relation with market saturation. I am not totally convinced by your theory yet but i am unable to bring any argument against it either :) Let me think more about it. It is still hard for me to believe R&D and PhDs can be useless for a developing country.

    Also, tell me more about how ‘least cost path is always the best path’. I am interested in learning more about this theory. Is Quality (which may have different standards for different people) achievable with least cost?

    I am by no means set out to prove you wrong, b/c i may be wrong too. I would like to have an educational discussion.

  392. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    February 26th, 2008 5:28 pm

    @Owais Mughal

    I think its a very interesting question. Well strictly speaking least cost path may not always be the best path, but it may take a nation to a state of high development, not necessarily the highest development, the difference between the local minima and the global minima.

    Well as for the quality and the least-cost path, I think it can be achieved. Once again companies only improve their quality if its advantageous to them. Increasing quality is once again a costly process so it would only be successful if there is a market for quality products and the volumes are large enough to create economies of scale are too huge or else the margin is too high. For the first, you don’t need to have the richest people in the world, just a large number of middle class people. For the latter you need to have a market with big purses, the legendary High Net Worth Individuals (HNWIs). For a country like Pakistan, the first approach is better.

    1) People are migrating to urban areas in large hordes from the rural areas. In cities the average incomes are much higher. So the buying power of people is high. According to some estimates, 40% of the population in Pakistan is now urban. That is an enormous 64 million, assuming that our population is 160 million. 64 million is more than the population of either Britain or France. Obviously Pakistan can’t compete with China, India, USA, Indonesia or Brazil on scale, but we can compete with fairly large countries on that account. Though not all of this urban population is in the middle class. Many do live in the slums too. But slums have their own economies too. The famous Dharavi “is home to a $2billion (Rs 8,800 crore) leather industry that employs 2 million and, on 19 February, it will get its first commercial bank branch.” http://www.livemint.com/Articles/2007/02/14003743/Indian-Bank-brings-economic-ma.html
    We need to do similar study on Karachi’s slums.
    The point is that the total buying power of urbanites even in the poor countries such as Pakistan and India is huge and is certainly much higher than the rural areas people. And they are at the lowest rung of development. Everyone else in a city is in much better financial position. Thus Pakistan can rely on economies of scale to achive higher growth rates and with such a big market, a large number of players would jump in and with competition there would be some quality. That quality would be different from the quality expected by the rich people but it won’t be too poor. As can be seen over the last few years many brands have entered the Pakistani packaged milk market and they are bringing quality in that sector. It would definitely be better than having just the milk pak in the packaged milk sector.

    The big problem in Pakistan is the low savings rates, and thats why we have to rely on foreign investment to bring such products to the burgeoning urban market and the foreign exchange is very shy of instability. We can only ensure sustainable development with higher savings rates, which the Pakistani government doesn’t encourage for some reason.

    2) In a country such as Pakistan we can have a very small elite and their can’t be too many people belonging to the group of HNWIs, which have liquid assets of over a million dollars. Thus we can’t rely on selling very high quality products, for which we might need research. That can happen in China and India now for very large number of people are becoming millionaires and billionaires.

    The rising house prices over the last few years had started creating the HNWI market in Pakistan. Houses in Islamabad now cost around 20 million in the G sectors. Even the cheapest ones are now available for at least 7-8 million. Though that is not a liquid asset but rising house prices increase the salaries for people to be able to pay higher rents, which follow the rising house prices. That doesn’t help those who have to rent a house but tremendously boosts the liquid assets of home owners who rent their property. If it had continued it might have been able to produce a big market for big spenders in big cities. But every boom ends with a bust and so has the housing sectors. Thus the house prices in Pakistan could not reach a stage where they could start impacting a lot. Even though we did witness a rising demand for cars, motorcycles, ACs, TVs and other such items, which can be traced back to rising house prices. The house prices bust might continue for a decade and so won’t be able to produce a large number of HNWIs in Pakistan. Also such a development would be risky for the stability of the country. Since it would make a few people ultra-rich at the cost of others. Such income equality breeds instability and violence and sometimes a virtual collapse of the economy.

    So the conclusion is that Pakistan must rely on the urbanite middle class, which can provide economies of scales in our economy, and the kind of goods they require don’t require any amount of research. That is also the least cost path, because this rural-urban migration is a natural phenomenon and the government should try to use it more constructively.

  393. Owais Mughal says:
    February 26th, 2008 5:49 pm

    Thanks for your detailed answer. I agree with your conclusion.

    The only thing i’ve not understood is why R&D and PhDs can be a burden or non-cost -effective. I gotta think more on that. I can make an idealistic case that the PhDs are needed in universities so that it is not a BS/MS level person teaching the same level students. I also believe R&D is needed in certain areas of economy like Defence OR (say) to make commercial products cost effective.

  394. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    February 26th, 2008 5:56 pm

    @Owais Mughal

    I fully agree that in certain areas we might really need research. Because Pakistan is not just an ordinary run of the mill third world country and is quite advanced in certain areas.

    As for the need for PhDs teaching at universities, I have some personal experience in this regard. I have taught for over 3 years at Pakistani universities with just a MS from the USA. I have also talked to many PhDs and observed them teaching at these institutions. The level of courses, even at the best universities, is not what requires a PhD to teach them and the level of courses is going down because of the market requirements. Very high technical skills are not required in the Pakistani market, and students are not much interested in learning any skills that might not be of any use to them in the job market. With increased information they are much more informative now. The universities have no option but to bring down the level of courses. And its not just in Pakistan. Here at University of York, UK (74 best in the world according to The Times Higher Education ranking), the courses are being downgraded according to the market needs, and they level of skills they teach is much higher than what any Pakistani university teaches in Computer Science. Pakistan is even much less developed market.

  395. Auwais says:
    February 27th, 2008 9:27 am

    I was just studying for a semester project and i found out that there is a big amount of R&D that just goes into the Small Industries in Europe. Initially Spain was left behind others because its SMEs did not have a strong back ground in R&D.

    I have not read the posts above but I think that R&D is required because even the smallest industrial solutions sometimes need research and development work. Also the solutions for Pakistani industries are different in many ways as everything is not written in text books. Our industry will be stuck where it is unless there is no step taken in this regard. or even if some development is attained it can never be lasting.

  396. Auwais says:
    February 27th, 2008 9:28 am

    Plus it can only do good if you spend some money on students and teachers then to make golf course for elites and khakis

  397. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    February 27th, 2008 9:40 am

    @Auwais

    Sure we have our own problems and we have to solve them our way. But perhaps solving such problems is a daily routine for companies working in Pakistan and doesn’t require any academic research.

    As for in order to develop we need all kinds of things and not just university. Golf courses are as much part of development as are universities.

  398. Owais Mughal says:
    February 27th, 2008 10:08 am

    Ahmad Shahid, it was interesting to read in your above comment that:

    “Here at University of York, UK (74 best in the world according to The Times Higher Education ranking), the courses are being downgraded according to the market needs”

    That is thought provoking. I don’t know how they are being downgraded. Is it moving from theory to application OR is it by simply removing material from the books.

  399. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    February 27th, 2008 10:11 am

    @Owais Mughal

    They are removing all the difficult bits and making them less theoretic and less mathematical, and introducing courses that are more practical even teaching web design. Or in other words their students would be less able to carry out research in the future, which simply might mean that such skills are not now highly rated in the market or the quality of students is going down.

  400. Owais Mughal says:
    February 27th, 2008 10:22 am

    @Ahmad Shahid. Thanks. That is thought provoking and interesting.

  401. Raza says:
    February 28th, 2008 11:31 am

    There’s an excellent keynote session delivered by none other than Pervez Hoodbhoy where he talks about the deteriorating quality of Pakistani students and issues plaguing our universities. You must listen to it:
    http://razzita.blogspot.com/2007/09/dr-pervez-hoodbhoys-keynote-at-ned.html

  402. Annie says:
    February 28th, 2008 1:34 pm

    this raanking is quite fair but karachi university should be in the list as well…

  403. formanite says:
    March 1st, 2008 3:53 am

    Because i study in Forman Christian University, so F.C should be on the top of this list.

  404. Talha says:
    March 2nd, 2008 12:11 pm

    This is an absurd ranking, I don’t see FAST NU Karachi in it, which is the 80th Microsoft Innovative Center in the world and contributing in the local as well as foreign countries. Criterion must also include the total percent of employed graduated from every universities.

  405. awais says:
    March 2nd, 2008 4:07 pm

    well i dont accept muet at num 5.it should be at num 13. i am student of muet

  406. March 3rd, 2008 12:46 am

    comsats must be first rank university WAH CAMPUS

  407. Hassan Butt says:
    March 3rd, 2008 5:51 am

    this raanking is quite fair but Gift university gujranwala should be in the list as well

  408. muntzir mehdi says:
    March 3rd, 2008 7:47 am

    rachna college
    rocks others socks

  409. Tariq Ali says:
    March 4th, 2008 12:39 pm

    Dear learners!I m student of UET Lahore.It is the best university in engineering field of pakistan.The faculty is best than any other university of pakistan.It is the first preference of a student who wants to do engineering.student of any soial status can study here with ease.It is difficult for for a student of mediocre family to study in GIKI,NUST,PIEAS,LUMS and NUST.SO UET Lahore should be given top rank.Thank you.

  410. Syed Faisal Ali says:
    March 5th, 2008 12:39 am

    asallam-o-aleykum to all of you

    I am a faculty member at Mehran UET and we were ranked 5th in the country.
    regardless that ranking or rating what i like about this university is that we as a faculty never consider any student’s belongings or any references of thier basics but what we do, we provide excellent knowledge and information on which thier caharacter building is depandent.

    inshallah in future the rest of the world will also going to know that we are omne the best engineering university of the world.

  411. muhammad safdar says:
    March 6th, 2008 8:14 am

    i am the student of uet taxila and we were ranked 6th in the country.there are good faculty members but it is needed to increas the no. of PHD teachers.overall good university with location at countryside.bye

  412. kahf says:
    March 7th, 2008 9:57 am

    hi well i m a little confused i have to choose btween dawood engineering university of karachi i have got in electornics engineering there and i have got in BSCS in karachi university as well so it is very difficult for me to choose one so kindly give me a advice

  413. arshiya says:
    March 8th, 2008 5:29 am

    hello i need to know that r u teaching fine arts courses online i mean to say fine arts like candle making, glass painting, flower making types. i will b very thank full to u if u let me know about dis.

  414. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    March 8th, 2008 7:17 pm

    @kahf

    Both the professions, Electrical Engineering and Computer Science are good but one needs to keep the future demand in mind before deciding which one to choose.

    1) Since 2001, when the Computer Sciences faced a major crisis in the form of the dot-com crash, CS has faced major setbacks with the number of students declining in absolute and relative terms all over the world, with Pakistan being no exception. On the other hand there has been upsurge in the demand for CS/IT people over the last year or so and now there is expected shortage in it. The skills that would be in great demand would be database (Oracle, SAP) and networking skills. Indian IT companies, the notable ones being TCS, Wipro and Infosys, are hiring in hordes, specially overseas. They are posting around 30% growth rates and they need a lot of new people. In India it is becoming increasingly difficult to get good candidates because the skills taught at the universities are not really in line with the industry demand. The skills they are really looking for are: good command over English language, team working skills and presentation skills apart from technical skills, which they nevertheless teach at their own institutions. Due to lack of supply of good graduates they are going overseas. But overseas, people are moving away from CS fearing that there would be a lot of job losses due to outsourcing in India. The result: a great dearth in supply specially when the demand is increasing manifold. So CS is a good career option.

    2) Electrical Engineering has two main branches: Telecom (Communication) and power. Over the last few years, since 2003, the world has witnessed great expansion in mobile telephony due to deregulation of the telecom sectors all over the world. But would that continue? And if so for how long? My answer is not for long. Since you should be looking at the market four years from now, when you would be graduating, market for telecommunication doesn’t seem that good. Due to exponential growth in this sector it is expected that it would be saturated in 2-3 years and then it might witness a slump, which might be a big crisis. Since so many people are already doing their bachelors in Telecommunication, there would be a glut of people entering the market with very few vacancies. The other field, the power, might witness a boom since the world is about to witness great power shortages. It was expected around 2003 or 2004 that in the succeeding 10 years around 10 trillion dollars would be invested in the power sector. Also a large number of people would be retiring in the power sector, specially in the USA and Europe, due to the retirement of the baby boomers, so there would be a lof of job opportunities in the power sector.

    Conclusion: In my view both CS and Electrical Engineering (power) would be good, but I would prefer the first.

  415. Javed says:
    March 10th, 2008 8:59 pm

    I think NED University has been capturing the best talent of Pakistan without any help of NED itself. Karachi- that unpopular city located in the south- where most NEDians come from- definitely has got some God gifted talent. That overly talented world class high-tech, I mean the small cream of NED, stands out and shines in all prestigious organizations of the world and that ranges from the tech giants like Cisco and IBM to the financial kings like Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley.

    Wake up call- Stop the brain drain or keep getting backward…

  416. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    March 11th, 2008 8:08 am

    I have seen NEDians, if they can be called that, always exagerating their own excellence, as if they are the only talented people in a nation of 170 million. In fact the same could be said about many institutions of higher learning. Since even less than 1% people go for higher education in Pakistan, all of them are certainly better, “God-gifted”, than the rest.

  417. KASHIF says:
    March 15th, 2008 2:02 am

    yar aiou ki telecom ki ranking kia hai

  418. Syed Naqi says:
    March 16th, 2008 6:11 am

    Iqra university on 4rth rank ,chah gaye hai, its really shamefull for all big public universities who had an age of 40 to 50 years.And now there is no right for the students of public universities students to say anything or lose commentents on private universities .IQRA hamri ZINDABAD !

  419. usman says:
    March 17th, 2008 12:24 am

    what abaout UET Peshawar???????

  420. muhammad ahad qureshi says:
    March 18th, 2008 3:14 am

    I want to transfer my credit to “ARID UNIVERSITY” from “COMSATS UNIVERSITY”

  421. FAISAL MALIK says:
    March 18th, 2008 12:22 pm

    SIR MERA SAWAL HA KE KIA PRIVATE INSTITUTE SE GOVT MAIN TRANSVER HO SAKTA HA

  422. Awais says:
    March 19th, 2008 2:44 am

    I think HEC PUNJAB GROUP OF COLLEGES ko bhool gayee hai…its one of the leading group of colleges providing quality education with lots of facilities for the students…its market is expanding and Punjab colleges are catching many position holder students from all boards which is a great achievement by any private education institition. This university of Central Punjab also goves scholarships to deserving students and a fee weiver is also given to many students which others institutions hardly provides. The university of central punjab offering business, arts, engineering, law studies…No doubt it is an expensive study place and getting good grades is very difficult here in presence of many competent and highly educated professors…but this institute really polishes its students and make them ready to face practical life challehges in all fields…there is an environment of great competetion in this University…So the students here work extremely hard…The future of this university is bright…HEC should consider to add this University of Central Punjab among TOP 10 universities atleast.

  423. sadia chaudhary says:
    March 19th, 2008 6:43 am

    hello pakistanies ! I would like to request u plz tanz karna band krein. HEC is our best organizatoin and its ranking is quite good.The Universities which are at lower level should try to make themselves best.We can make our country a best country only by hardworking.Think about it.Thankyou

  424. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    March 19th, 2008 8:27 am

    In my personal view HEC under Dr. Atta-ur-Rehman was in too much hurry to publish this list and make it one of his achievements. As can be seen many institutions have been left out of the ranking. This old ranking should be discarded and it should be done again keeping in mind different views that have been raised.

  425. umar says:
    March 24th, 2008 7:01 pm

    Pakistani book shops going online . I have noticed that almost all famous bookshops across country are now online stores. For example Multiline Books in Lahore store URL is http://www.multilinebooks.com

  426. Abdul Basit says:
    March 25th, 2008 4:51 pm

    why you ignoring University of Management & Technology Lahore.It is also a “W” catagory University.and Best one for BBA & MBA………………….

  427. aliraza says:
    March 29th, 2008 11:23 pm

    HEC should provide equity to the universities. There are many univerities which are follow the rules of HEC but they are no included in this web site .The students are dishearted when they see no name of his university in this web site. so it is the request plz updated the other universities i-e lahore university,university of central punjab,virtual university,hajvery university etc. in this web site and other related websites.

  428. C.Prasan says:
    March 30th, 2008 6:58 am

    I am thinking of doing a PhD from Preston University based in Ajman. I understand that the degree will be offered from Preston University in USA. I would like to know people’s views about Preston University in Pakistan. Is it a good university? and are Preston degrees valid in and outside Pakistan? I am reading a lot of negative views in the web about Preston University. Should I still consider a PhD from Preston. Thanks.

  429. Uzair says:
    March 30th, 2008 7:29 am

    Dear C. Prasan.
    There is no such thing a s “Preston University in USA”.
    Preston is really a fraud and money making operation… Its degree is worth nearly nothing in Pakistan and absolutely nothing outside Pakistan.

  430. Zuhaib Saqib says:
    March 31st, 2008 7:48 am

    On what rank you will place the GIFT University, Gujranwala

  431. Khayyam says:
    April 2nd, 2008 11:12 pm

    Dear Uzair and C. Prasan,

    I hate to be a party pooper but there is actually a Preston University in the state of Alabama, USA. This university is infact affiliated with the parent in the US. Although I have no clue about the recognition of its degree. Some people say it is blacklisted in Pakistan. My advice to you is to be very cautious before you make any decision about going for higher education from this university.

  432. ashfaq ahmad says:
    April 3rd, 2008 3:46 pm

    What do u think about K.E.Medical College Lahore. I hink it should be included in ranking as 1st

  433. ahmad says:
    April 3rd, 2008 7:17 pm

    aoa all pakis!
    i think this is a perfect ranking except the number 1 uni in engineering. i think many of us dont know about that uni and it only specializes in masers. the only reson of its 1st position that i can figure out is that “faujiun ki uni hai”. and dats wat one of my friends in islamabad says. nobody even knows it there! let alone the whole of pakistan.
    and about punjba group of colleges, i think they simply suck….sorry but this is the fact. they are no more than money making machines for amir mehmood and nothing else. no research, no campus, no distinctions…..why should they be even considered for such a high level ranking that involves the whole of pakistan? what message will one be giving to international community who reads this ranking and then actually finds out these shity “kothis turned colleges”?
    btw i was myself a part of punjab group of colleges by studying in Resource Academia so don’t challenge my information.
    AH

  434. ali raza says:
    April 4th, 2008 2:18 am

    What about the M.A jinnah university islamabad i think it also provides the quality education

  435. KHALID KHAN says:
    April 5th, 2008 9:06 am

    can u plz tell me the rank of sir SYED UNIVERSITEY

  436. Muhammad Uzair Sukhera says:
    April 6th, 2008 3:25 am

    @ ahmad (April 3rd, 2008 7:17 pm post)
    “i think many of us dont know about that uni and it only specializes in masers. the only reson of its 1st position that i can figure out is that

  437. Muhammad Uzair Sukhera says:
    April 6th, 2008 3:36 am
  438. Zulfiqar Siddiqi says:
    April 8th, 2008 5:14 pm

    It was interesting to know about the expansion of universities
    in Pakistan. However, I am wondering if someone could elaborate as to how the rating of an educational institution
    is determined. Is it based on factors like, quality of professors,
    talent of the students, number of books in the library, opportunities for research, location of the institution, finance
    available, opportunities of finding jobs for students after graduation, etc. etc. How many points are assigned to each factor of these factors. Thanks.

  439. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    April 9th, 2008 5:17 am

    @Zulfiqar Siddiqi

    I think this ranking was just a very premature effort on the part of HEC under Atta-ur-Rehman to make some headlines and to present Rehman as the architect of modern universities in Pakistan. Not all the universities were covered. Not many factors could have been considered. And the subsequent lists were never published. It seems that Rehman has other priorities now, one of them seems to be saving his own jobs.

  440. Muhammad Tahir Ismail says:
    April 12th, 2008 1:25 am

    UET Lahore should be at top in Engineering universities considering the Faculty, Services provided to community as compared to the dues & funding in which they are managing everything. The Cream of nation goes here and have a survey of top professional organizations. MOST OF THE TOP POSITIONS ARE HELD BY UETIANS……

    UETIANS ARE SERVING THE NATION IN REAL SENSE….

  441. adil javed says:
    April 12th, 2008 10:40 am

    i am surprise to see pieas university at the top of engineering institutes the university which should be at the top is uet taxila wow what a university in every department in girls in faculty so better be change it or else remove the rating list u dont know me…….

  442. Muhammad Uzair Sukhera says:
    April 13th, 2008 5:17 am

    What gives an edge to PIEAS over the rest is the no of Phd faculty and the no of publications. Uet certainly lags behind in both!

  443. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    April 14th, 2008 6:19 am

    NUST doesn’t have that many PhDs yet it is quite high on the ranking. It receives a dispropotionate amount of funds from the military, ministry of defence and ministry of finance. Other universities should be provided similar amount of funding.

    PIEAS was originally just the educational arm of Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission. Thus it received a lot of funding and man power from PAEC. No wonder its also high on the list.

    Other universities are competing on an un-level playing field. Thus ranking of universities must also take into account these factors.

  444. padam veer says:
    April 15th, 2008 10:33 am

    all the words are small infornt of mehranian and mehran university……
    no one can not get the place of it
    hope fully it will be the best among all universities in 2008

  445. April 16th, 2008 5:56 am

    It is honorable for me that I was/am part of top ranking university.

    Quadian Once
    Quadian forever

  446. baqir kamal says:
    April 16th, 2008 9:32 am

    dawood college of engineering and technology
    is a fine institution
    i m very upset as HEC excluded it in a very tight manner

  447. Muhammad Uzair Sukhera says:
    April 16th, 2008 3:01 pm

    “NUST doesn

  448. Nasir Ali says:
    April 18th, 2008 5:38 am

    I dont accept it.Ranking should be based on how it is tough to get admission in that university.For the screening of uet Peshawar is very much tough and only those student get through who can compete,but still it is on 8th no.This is not fair .you people only see how the university appear just by looking at it and then rank it.Uet texila is just a kid in front of uet peshawar.

  449. Mian Shahzad, MD says:
    April 19th, 2008 11:46 pm

    I don ‘t agree with this list. Especially, when KEMC is not even considered to be one of the top medical colleges in pakistan. Even though I have not received my medical training from Pakistan, here in the U.S., doctors from KEMC are exceptional (in my view) on their USMLE exams and clinical work. KEMC has a name which is recognized internationally and this college should be given its due place.

    Thank you

    Mian M. Khuram Shahzad, M.D.,
    Assistant Professor, OB/GYN
    Hosuton, Texas.

  450. April 22nd, 2008 1:40 am

    Dear pakistaniat.com

    I just wanted to know where is biztek(Institue of Business & Technology). Although it ranked Grade A in HEC Category.

    Thank You
    Regards
    S. Kashif Moin

  451. buzar says:
    April 23rd, 2008 6:34 am

    good and nice

  452. lucas borwon says:
    April 24th, 2008 11:00 am

    why is LSE included in the HEC list. it dont deserve to be there cuz they have the most shitty faculty of all times
    thanku

    Lucas Brown…

  453. Sulaiman says:
    April 25th, 2008 8:27 am

    I totally agree with a lot of people here cause I also think that this list is not based on the talent of students but on the size and finances of the universities.A lot of good universities have been left out while some low grade ones have been highly ranked.This list is totally void.

  454. ahmed says:
    April 27th, 2008 2:14 am

    I agree with the list. For those who don’t agree n consider it as a satan’s work, I would only say that there is no ranking list in the world which statisfies everybody.
    I would like to reply to MIAN SHAHZAD, MD that King Edward would have been in this list n might been on the top, But reason is that it was chartered as a university after 2005. HEC has said that only universities that were chartered before 2001 were present in the present list. As King Edward Medical Uni was only a college (affliated to Punjab Uni) before 2005 so it was not included in the present list.
    Please think 101 types before u guys caliberate anything!
    Thanks!

  455. Babar Hayat Malik says:
    April 27th, 2008 2:27 am

    Hi everybody> i too agree with the ranking list HEC published because HEC is only org. of pakistan that approves and give proper grading to universities. Its not just an internet-based forum of a handful persons BUT a big institute for granting Universities In Pakistan there legal right to exist (as no universty can exist within pakistan without HEC approval).
    So HEC ranking list is a technical one as AHMED said very right that there is no ranking list in the world which statisfies everybody.
    Ahmed! I totally agree with your statemant. A big Yo to you!

  456. zohiab ahmed says:
    April 27th, 2008 11:10 am

    hello
    sir i think szabist is best bussnis among the all institutes.

  457. zohiab ahmed says:
    April 27th, 2008 11:13 am

    hi yanger i think szabist is the best institute in the pakistan

  458. Afaq says:
    April 27th, 2008 11:20 pm

    AoA — I’m surprised to see that NEDUET, Karachi couldn’t make it to the top 5 engineering schools in Pakistan.

    Any idea?

  459. shazi says:
    April 28th, 2008 11:33 am

    hey i think all the universities got the position that they deserved… but i cant accpet nust at 2nd position….. NED is better then nust all the way…i myself as an engineering student accpets the results displayed.. but NUST………………………………………….. !!

  460. Kamran says:
    April 29th, 2008 9:23 am

    It is good that HEC has started ranking universities but HEC should take care about other issues also as in ranking published papers play vital role and some vice chancellors are forcing their teachers to publish papers and started giving premium on each publication. Most of the teachers have started publishing papers by getting (8-10 years) old thesis from librries and from different sources and making papers out of them. Measures should be taken to criticize such things. Some teachers have diverted their attention from teaching to paper publications and are not paying attention to deliver proper lectures to students particularly in new universities. Because they know that publication will count in his credit for promotion not good teaching.

  461. ANNA says:
    April 29th, 2008 10:39 am

    no matter wat faculty or whatever facilities iqra is providing am not sure why is it ranked far better than the institute of business management… iobm is providing the pakistani industry with far better entrepreneurs and leaders.
    this seems quiet biased hec better look at the market demand of degree holders of different institutes as well and there you will find the real answer…

  462. MUBASHAR SHARIF says:
    April 29th, 2008 10:21 pm

    Asalam-o-Alikum
    I think all the universities deserve to this .its ot the matter of well& good. for us its a matter that either the univeristy is giving the admission to all. or the seats are so much sufficient. if a qenerl peron is not allowed then 4 us its n matter that who’s on top.

  463. Mian Shahzad, MD says:
    April 30th, 2008 12:09 am

    After reading the reply from Mr. Ahmed, I now concur that the rank list was furnished in a good spirit. Insha-Allah, in the future, the ranking should focus more and more on scientific discovery and the schools contribution to the society as a whole.

    Universities should also be judged by the caliber of their faculty training, ranking of their incoming class, and places where their graduates find jobs. In this spirit, the universities will also compete to get the best and most serious students from the applicant pool. They will also focus more on the strengths of their curriculum, experience of their faculty and leadership of their administration.

    This ranking system, will one day insha-Allah, revolutionize the attitudes and cultivate a spirit of teaching and innovation while bringing pride and a sense of purpose back to our education system. This will, undeniably, nurture and groom our future educators, health care professionals, lawyer, engineers and beyond.

    In short, I believe this is a good start and we should commend the HEC for their efforts.

    Mian M. Khuram Shahzad, MD

    Assistant Professor & Research Scholar,
    Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, USA.

  464. Mian M. Khuram Shahzad, MD says:
    April 30th, 2008 12:16 am

    Sallams:

    After reading the reply from Mr. Ahmed, I now concur that the rank list was furnished in a good spirit. Insha-Allah, in the future, the ranking should focus more and more on scientific discovery and the schools contribution to the society as a whole.

    Universities should also be judged by the caliber of their faculty training, ranking of their incoming class, and places where their graduates find jobs. In this spirit, the universities will also compete to get the best and most serious students from the applicant pool. They will also focus more on the strengths of their curriculum, experience of their faculty and leadership of their administration.

    This ranking system, will one day insha-Allah, revolutionize the attitudes and cultivate a spirit of teaching and innovation while bringing pride and a sense of purpose back to our education system. This will, undeniably, nurture and groom our future educators, health care professionals, lawyer, engineers and beyond.

    In short, I believe this is a good start and we should commend the HEC for their efforts.

    Thank you

    Mian M. Khuram Shahzad, MD

    Assistant Professor & Research Scholar,
    Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, USA.

  465. Mian Shahzad, MD says:
    April 30th, 2008 12:31 am

    Sallams:

    After reading the reply from Mr. Ahmed, I now concur that the rank list was furnished in a good spirit. Insha-Allah, in the future, the ranking should focus more and more on scientific discovery and the schools contribution to the society as a whole.

    Universities should also be judged by the caliber of their faculty training, ranking of their incoming class, and places where their graduates find jobs. In this spirit, the universities will also compete to get the best and most serious students from the applicant pool. They will also focus more on the strengths of their curriculum, experience of their faculty and leadership of their administration.

    This ranking system, will one day insha-Allah, revolutionize the attitudes and cultivate a spirit of teaching and innovation while bringing pride and a sense of purpose back to our education system. This will, undeniably, nurture and groom our future educators, health care professionals, lawyer, engineers and beyond.

    In short, I believe this is a good start and we should commend the HEC for their efforts.

    Thank You

    Mian M. Khuram Shahzad, MD

    Assistant Professor & Research Scholar
    Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, USA

  466. Aslam baig says:
    May 3rd, 2008 4:47 pm

    I dont accept the ranking.All the talented Engineers of pakistan belongs to uet peshawar and its missing from the top rank list .If the only thing you count for ranking is the building then why dnt u provide sufficient funds to improve the structure.I dont think UET taxila is better then UET peshawar.

  467. afsaralijadoon says:
    May 6th, 2008 5:43 pm

    i think khyber medical college and engnreeing university should also be include in this ranking .these two are playing very important roll in higher education.

  468. Salman says:
    May 7th, 2008 3:14 pm

    Sir Syed University Is Best In Pakistan

  469. Amir Zeb says:
    May 8th, 2008 6:20 am

    FAST is also known as National University of Computer and Emerging Sciences (NUCES) or just NU. Its 7th in all Pakistan Engineering ranking and that can be checked at http://www.hec.gov.pk/QualityAssurance/Ranking_lists.htm

    NU-FAST is only 7 years old and its still progressing. I hope it will rise to the top soon.

  470. ibrHIM says:
    May 9th, 2008 5:13 am

    in this ranking,you just included public sector universities accept GIKI.Why there is no ranking for private sectors.I am Ibrahim from UMT [University of management and technology] Lhr.In UMT,there is well equipped labs,high speed IPC [information processing centre

  471. Ehsan chaudhary says:
    May 9th, 2008 11:57 am

    Yar comsats iz gr8. Huge building wid a lot of faculty specials

  472. Muhammad Uzair Sukhera says:
    May 9th, 2008 2:34 pm

    Those who are commenting on this topic for the first time are kindly requested to study the entire procedure for ranking and preferably the previous posts insted of giving the rhetoric that their institute is great and that its grave injustice not to have included it or else assigned a lower position!

  473. Saad says:
    May 9th, 2008 3:15 pm

    In the larger interest it will be usefel for ppl like urselves to announce the criteria on which each and every uni is being judged and then make these short but usefel and much needed lists………..

  474. Raheel Ahmed says:
    May 10th, 2008 5:42 am

    Please include “Virtual university of Lahore” in you University ranking.

  475. Zohaib Tariq says:
    May 10th, 2008 5:58 am

    I am shocked to see the list of Business Universities, where are Hamdard Institute of Management Sciences and College of Buisness Management exist. In my opinion these are the two main Insititute of Business studies & far better than Iqra and SZABIST……

  476. Waqas says:
    May 10th, 2008 9:51 am

    Wats about COMSATS Lhr campus….It is growing fastly and its students are recognizedas good in market

  477. tariq ahmad says:
    May 14th, 2008 3:13 am

    i think comsats university is the best engineering university in pakistan and tell those student that are comsian,to proud on his university and also on his future.

  478. shams ur rehman afridi says:
    May 14th, 2008 2:31 pm

    asalam o laikum to all . i am from comsats it scored 7th position even though i am not satisfied with ranking of HEC.

  479. mazhar says:
    May 15th, 2008 2:49 am

    plz add The Islamia University of Bahawalpur which is the best university of Pakistan

  480. May 16th, 2008 2:36 am

    dadabhoy institue of higher education in Karaci is the most recent emerging university in pakistan, If offers a wide variety of courses.

  481. SOBIA AHMAD says:
    May 22nd, 2008 12:15 am

    hi.i m the student of psychology.and the best univesty in the field of psy is peshawar univesty.

  482. bilal khalid says:
    May 24th, 2008 10:07 am

    COMSATS UNIVERSITY IS THE BEST UNIVERSITY IN PAKISTAN BECOZ OF ITS HIGH STANDARDS

  483. Irfan Ali says:
    May 25th, 2008 1:36 am

    Irfan Ali Chacher

  484. Majid Hussain Buledi says:
    May 26th, 2008 2:06 am

    As far as the TEFL qualification is concerned, ADP-TEFL in HE of Aga Khan University is the best in Pakistan fot its quality teaching and services.

  485. May 26th, 2008 3:43 am

    i think in the right modern world area i think the UCP university of centeral punjab i think doing a very good job and i think one of the best universities in the punjab right now.

  486. May 27th, 2008 2:36 am

    Dear Friends

    Well ! Regarding Preston University Pakistan, i would like to inform you that there are two chartered universities (recognized by the HEC) are functioning in Pakistan i.e. Preston University Kohat and Preston University Karachi. The Preston Universities has their own sub campuses in Peshawar, Islamabad, Lahore, Faisalabad, Multan and Gujranwala (affiliated with Kohat) and Quetta, Hyderabad (affiliated with Karachi).

    All the degrees (B.Tech Pass / B.Tech Hons. / M.Tech / HND / MBA / B.Sc Textile Engineeering etc.) are recognized by the Government of Pakistan.

    you may visit its website http://www.preston.edu.pk and you may check its name in the list of HEC institutes at HEC website.

    Thanks

  487. MUHAMMAD NAEEM says:
    May 27th, 2008 10:32 am

    hi…. i m student of electrical engineering in uet lahore.My uni. is best for electrical engineering.

  488. May 29th, 2008 12:46 pm

    hi,
    wish u best of luck.
    made a motto tht “yes we can” absolutly we can!
    made a mind abt success.
    i am from sir syed university karachi. bs civil engineering.
    letz do only 4 pakistan,
    “compition brings out the best in products, and the wrost in people”
    another place can be said……
    “what u ardently and constantly desire, u alwayz get.”

    ” if i haven’t commited any error, its because i haven’t made any decision”

    so ,
    what to say tht do ur work heartly.never dishearted any 1.

    big hugz to all of u =======> 4 reading my messege.

    sohail aijaz palijo.
    2nd year ssuet civil deptt:
    karachi.
    03223214997/03313152275.

  489. Bilal says:
    June 3rd, 2008 7:32 pm

    IU just keep on thriving, we are the best..!!

  490. ALi says:
    June 4th, 2008 12:20 pm

    I exactly and precisely dont know , which university is best in Pakistan. As a overseas student i felt ours universities standerd shoul be improved and we have a big margin to do it. I studied Quaid-i-azam university in Islamabad which comes first in HEC ranking but beleive me it cannot compete a smallest university in europe.
    best regards

  491. Amjad Sahil says:
    June 7th, 2008 7:15 pm

    Hazara universtity is the best bcz of education and sights

  492. June 11th, 2008 12:08 am

    AOA,
    well i wana say hat why uet taxila is below jamshoro… i dont think this is rite thing..uet taxila merit and faculty is much high than jamshoro…..plz correct the rankings..

  493. Awais says:
    June 12th, 2008 10:14 am

    Hi,

    Its very strange to see that NED university is not standing on any rank,could u tell me please how its possible?

  494. hasan says:
    June 14th, 2008 1:55 pm

    i think this ranking is fake

  495. Dewana Phir Say says:
    June 14th, 2008 2:22 pm

    This ranking is from Oct 2006. Has HEC updated the ranking since?

  496. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    June 14th, 2008 2:47 pm

    The HEC ranking has proved to be too controversial and hence be done away with. I wonder why the HEC didn

  497. saad zafar says:
    June 15th, 2008 11:13 am

    i think mehran university and ned are the topest universities in pakistan but i satisfied with the hec ranking iam happy that mehran university is at no 5 because of its highly qualified faculty well equipped labs,hostel education etc.

  498. mazhar says:
    June 16th, 2008 3:43 am

    can i get the list of pec recognized universities and eng disicplines?

  499. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    June 16th, 2008 11:19 am
  500. M. Uzair Khan says:
    June 21st, 2008 10:13 am

    Assalam o ALikum…

    I m a SSUETian (2nd Year Comp. Eng).

    plz ne1 tell me tht how in the world is Mehran Univ. is rated higher than SSUET and NED ?

    p.s. My question is for the ppl who have visited all the three univs concerned :d…

    plz come up with the ur source of info Mr.Topic Creator :)….
    post the link plz…

    Jazak Allah

  501. Faraz Hussain says:
    June 22nd, 2008 10:19 am

    I completely agree, it appears that the ranking is a farce. though i am not a graduate of NED as i graduated from UET Lahore, still i feel pity over the ranking as it grades Mehran univ. better than many including NED. The ranking should have been done by a panel of professionals as I reckon many pure scientists and graduates of military colleges prepared the ranking list.

  502. yasiir ansari says:
    June 23rd, 2008 3:39 am

    i think HEC panel need to survey again and should mention on website that on what basis they are give rank to pak universities whether its on research wise or popularity wise?

  503. June 23rd, 2008 10:15 am

    sallam to all. i just asking about the universitz (medical).can have any one information abut universitz.which one is best university.?

  504. Mazhar Iqbal says:
    June 26th, 2008 5:54 am

    plz check it

  505. Irfan says:
    June 26th, 2008 10:38 am

    University of Lahore claims in their website that their standing is among the top 500 universities of the world
    How come they do not fare well in the HEC list?

    Is it possible that certain traits in certain universities are given exaggerated waightage to drag them to the top?

    You see, higher education, besides contributing to producing intellectuals, is unfortunately also becoming a booming business now-a-days

  506. umair` says:
    June 26th, 2008 10:55 am

    Maju is much better dan Iqra……..Dun agree wid tht rankinG…therE must be a neutral pannel !

  507. yasir says:
    June 27th, 2008 2:34 am

    comsat is much better then other universities

  508. A.R Marri says:
    June 30th, 2008 6:49 am

    university of sindh jamshoro is the second largest university of pakistan it comprises on 58 departments .and graduates of this university are working at senior position at national as well as at international level .
    then why HEC has not include it in high level ranking why .
    what is reason behind it.

  509. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    June 30th, 2008 7:06 am

    @A. R. Marri

    Size has its own benefits yet its not the sole criterion of the ranking of a university. Michigan State University if one of the largest universities in the USA, but is quite below University of Michigan in ranking, even though the latter is smaller in size. Size does matter but not always.

    Still as for HEC ranking I have serious doubts. It was an exercise, which was done in haste, perhaps just to please a few people at the top. What makes me wonder is that why this exercise was not repeated after doing it the first time? It has been many years since then.

  510. razi shah says:
    July 1st, 2008 11:41 am

    NUST is the best university in pakistan…..
    and i hope that it will progress with such greater speed….

  511. AHSAN JAMSHAID says:
    July 2nd, 2008 6:23 am

    COMSECT IS THE BEST UNIVERSITY OF PAKISTAN

  512. Sharjeel Mustafa Ali says:
    July 2nd, 2008 3:00 pm

    In my point of view, Sir Syed University of Engineering and Technology (SSUET) is much more better than Jamshoro university.

    I wonder Why Sir Syed university is not mentioned in the above Ranking ???????????????????????????

  513. tazeen says:
    July 3rd, 2008 3:41 am

    I wonder why Kinnaird college for women Lahore is not mentioned in the “General” list although its principal is the education minister ??????????????
    KC is one of the finest institute for women education not only in Lahore but in Pakistan as well…

  514. Zeeshan says:
    July 4th, 2008 1:52 am

    where is Muhammad Ali Jinnah University
    ma dear frndz MAJU is NO 1 coz da progress made by this universities in last 5 years is much more higher den uders

  515. S.Suleman.Q says:
    July 6th, 2008 4:41 pm

    On what grounds HEC has compiled this ranking, moreover where is NUML?

  516. asad says:
    July 7th, 2008 4:02 am

    you should give a ranking of all the universities put together
    and you guys havnt even mentioned KEMU its one of the best in pakistan

  517. Read the post!!!! says:
    July 8th, 2008 4:35 am

    This post gets the silliest comments possible.

    First, can people please READ the actual post before commenting. That will really save everyone’s time from your asking silly questions already answered in the post (such as who did this, or why, or what criteria was used).

    Second, just because you went to a university does not make it a good university. In some cases that would only make it a bad university! This is a RANKING. It is not about what you think it is about how a university PERFORMS on some criteria.

    Judging by the comments the ranking of some of these institutions should go DOWN just based on how dumb some of these comments are!

  518. July 8th, 2008 7:24 am

    My dear fellows Aoa……….

    We should work hard for the btterment of this country that it get success like amirica.
    long live pakistan and pakistani.
    thanks alot.

  519. Zeeshan Akhter says:
    July 9th, 2008 5:31 am

    Asalamoalikum to all Muslims And Pakistani In this world
    I want say that in many universities programe of Engg going on but there courses are much differ from each other
    And now i m Studing in @@@@@@@@@@@@@” Muhammad Ali Jinnah University Islamabad ” with respect to studies this is one of the best university of pakistan because they train a student to go through any problem in their life@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ but i feel very ashammed when i saw on its Building
    i Requested to HEC and PEC that they don’t give permission to open universities in PLzas.

  520. zara says:
    July 10th, 2008 3:33 pm

    hello iam zara from karachi iam doing mechanical engineering from NADIR SHAW EDULJI DINSHAW UNIVERSITY. iam very surprized that NEDis not in top five . i think these ranking must rejudge and imust that ned is better from all these jamshoro all that

  521. kahn says:
    July 10th, 2008 3:41 pm

    Assalamu alikum to all muslim pakistani brothers,i belong to the one and only engineering university of balochistan,which is U E T KHuzdar,i would like to attain attention from P E C and H E C to take into account this university too..becouse it is not like other universities of the country,it is far behind than other uni’s …i think it is just coz of the lake of intrest of H E C and P E C,,thay should come and check out for problems.the main deficiency of our uni is the lake of research work ,,P E C should contruct research labs and should checkout uni’s finencial and achedmic conditions,, Hope to get prompt responce from reciever… Allah hafiz

  522. G.H says:
    July 13th, 2008 3:53 am

    SALAM
    YAR YEH FAST KA BBA KAISA HAY?
    AS COMPARED TO IBA LUMS AND NUST

  523. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    July 13th, 2008 9:19 am

    I wonder how so-called “research work” would help UET Khuzdar, or just make its teachers avoid “teaching” in the name of “research”?

  524. Muhammad Omar Miana says:
    July 14th, 2008 3:17 pm

    Respected Readers!
    Differentiating between the universities is good from HEC point ofview but very bad from my point of view because each and every one who is reading in a university which is not included in the ranking will be dishearted and most of them like me think that they have no future after certification or degree.
    Now I am willing to get admission in MAJU Islamabad Campus but that is not included in the ranking list even the administartion of MAJU claims that they are best in that region.
    where as Riphah International is the next option as it is included in the ranking list?
    I am living in Multan and feel that MAJU is much better from its web page than BZU but BZU is on fifth position should I to go for that?
    infact the ranking causing the problem of disheart among the students who don’t want to loose the time but ???
    its causing a race and due to which there are many factors which are causing the problem like increasing in the fees, less enrolemet for the courses etc.
    What I want to say is HEC should make a standard and every university has to follow that and then there will be only one ranking for all of them then a time will come that our private and government universities will produce the same level professionals.

    Thanks its the matter of great importance as still my family is not allowing me to go for further education and they are just looking for NUST, QAU, PU they don’t like to think about CASE, MAJU, Riphah International etc please omitt such kind of practices to give an open chance to every one to grow.

  525. Moiz says:
    July 15th, 2008 10:41 am

    FAST ka BBA kaisa hei as compared wid CBM?

  526. talal ahmed says:
    July 16th, 2008 7:32 am

    uet taxila is one of the best merit wise university in pakistan.it should be atleast above jamshoro university.this is not fair with uet taxila

  527. Khan says:
    July 18th, 2008 4:07 pm

    hi,
    i thing that MAJU namely Muhammad Ali Jinnah University in Karachi leaded by Dr.Abdul Wahab the person who made the name of IBA(Institute of Business Adminstration) which is in top 5 for aroud 40 years,he is now in connection with MAJU for a couple of years and the progress this country has made is absolutely exceptional,Dr. Wahab is implementing his vast experience and knowledge,so i think HEC should consider each current aspect of the university when issuing their list.

  528. asmat says:
    July 18th, 2008 11:48 pm

    i m student of giki.giki is the most populos than nust.giki has only 6 feculties but nust have 12 feculties if see to %age giki is more better than nust.so ranking should be repeat.

  529. July 19th, 2008 7:30 am

    aslamualaikum
    i want to ask from the students who r studying in NED KARACHI ?
    IS NED best like NUST and UET lahore ?
    ALLAH HAFIZ

  530. jugnu says:
    July 20th, 2008 7:58 am

    Asalam o alicom;
    i m doing MBA at wah univeristy one of the most quality education university where u can developed ur skills in studies and alos socially.This is strick discipline university and strong examination proceedure and also capable teacher and coordinative.As u get admission here a strong, clear way for ur bright future will be in ur grip.u all must visit wah university at wah cantt. salam pakistan and pakistan zindabad

  531. waqas says:
    July 22nd, 2008 10:25 pm

    Asslam-o-Alaikum to Pakistanis……
    I’m student of Information Technology in University of Peshawar. Really, reading here is a charm and providing enthusiasm for those who seek their obligatory goals and set them on top priority lists.I did my 4 year graduation program from the above mentioned and want to pursue my further studies with proceedings of MS. The teachers, the environment, the discipline, the society, the students and the courses….thus nothing can be taken as granted and they are all out of retrospective. thanks to ALLAH who provide me the opportunity studying here. anyone wanna acquire some challenging careeer in any field, is always warm-welcomed in Peshawar university. so come and build your future on aptitude basis. Quality is the motto of my institute. If you dont trust me, bring out few hours from your busy life one day and visit the University of Peshawar. thanks…. chheers.

  532. Ahmad Kamran says:
    July 22nd, 2008 11:21 pm

    Pieas, might be ranked as number one Engineering university in the Hec ranking but people don’t know that it might be the worst experience ever in their academic career.! Especially to the guys thinking of going for MS(System Engg) at pieas must think twice about joining it or at least meet the poor souls who are stuck in this hell in pieas. Teachers in Electrical Department are worst than anything except for one or two, 69 credit hours in all master programme as compared to 30 credit hours in other universities double triple you miseries, think about it!, they will suck your soul for giving you just a petty Rs 10,000. The sword of dropping out in always hanging on the head of students even the good ones , Just think about this last session 50 students came in the zero semester ,Now in third there are 22 left in the MS(system Engg). I’ll sugest if you are
    a Nescom Fellow don’t even think about ruining your career .

  533. ali raza says:
    July 23rd, 2008 12:34 am

    i m doing mechanical engg in uet taxila.my univeristy is the best in pakistan for mechanical engg.

  534. Shakeel Sadiq Jajja says:
    July 23rd, 2008 11:33 pm

    The whole cream of students from Punjab (which is largest province in population, therefore, largest in number of inter boards, therefore, producer of greatest number of board toppers) comes to UET Lahore. Weightage to standard of intake students should be increased while ranking universities.

    UETIANS are dominant in performance in every field of engineering…

    UET IS THE BEST OF THE BESTS….

  535. Ali says:
    July 24th, 2008 1:20 am

    im surprised to see NUST 2nd in the ranking…IT SHUD BE FIRST!!!!!

  536. M. JUNAID CHOHAN RAJPUT says:
    July 25th, 2008 2:40 am

    hi

  537. taimy says:
    July 26th, 2008 1:13 pm

    University of Lahore is the best as it is among the top 500 universities of the world (Times Higher education and QS) ahead of NUST. These two universities are the only Pakistani universities in the top 500.

    University of Lahore is not present in the HEC ranking because if you read the introdcution page of HEC ranking, those universities which have been chartered after 2002 are not included in the ranking. The university of Lahore is one such university. Yet if you read the “excluded universities” page, you will see that university of Lahore has been awarded “W ranking” which is top most HEC ranking given to Pakistani universities like UET, Punjab univeristy, NUST etc.

  538. Ibrar khan says:
    July 28th, 2008 8:10 am

    i am looking 4 best ENGINEERING UNIVERSITY

  539. farhan says:
    July 28th, 2008 11:42 am

    i am looking for the ranking of business universities in karachi.

  540. YAHYA AMAD says:
    July 30th, 2008 3:38 am

    PIEAS is best Institution in field of Engineering & Science

  541. AYYAZ MAHMOOD says:
    July 30th, 2008 6:57 am

    hai.im also looking for engeneering university.ther are no.of opportunities for brillent students in pakistan.but,sory to say ,there should some institutes for average and good students.because there are much competition in all big universities.and a average student can not get admision in these institutes. so, GOVT. & PEC. should take some steps to established these institution.GOOD BY.

  542. muhammad ashar tariq says:
    August 1st, 2008 6:31 am

    i want to see the government based universities to come up in the ratings.They should match up with the standards of some of the well known universities (private) in pakistan.I have just taken my intermediate exams and i am looking forward towards my coming 4 years which i am going to give to an institution.I am an enginering student and want to enjoy the facilities regarding my studies’therefore the concerned people should do something.

  543. Fahad Ahsan says:
    August 1st, 2008 3:51 pm

    i guess COMSATS should b in the top 6 …
    its progressing by leaps n bounds

  544. umara awan says:
    August 3rd, 2008 7:53 am

    hii
    i have done bsc honors in zoology from punjab university lahore and i experienced in these four years that punjab university providing more talent to students than all of other universities and occupies the students not only from pakistan but from all over the world.it provide research facilities in zoology which are not been found in quaid e azam university isb so it is superior…

  545. August 4th, 2008 1:47 pm

    The first batch of FAST-NUCES BBA has just graduated and the graduates are working in reputable companies such as Trade key, Standard chatered, citibank and etc. The graduates are talented professionals, as the univesity provides a professional learning environment where students are assigned different research projects which provide them with the latest knowledge of the market.

  546. UROOJ ATHER ALAVI says:
    August 5th, 2008 1:57 am

    sir syed university is there somewhere

  547. August 5th, 2008 3:40 am

    Wel i think that fast is the best university n it can compete wid any universtiy in pakistan

  548. Owais Mughal says:
    August 8th, 2008 7:32 pm

    This cutting is from today’s Jang announcing establishment of Pak-China University of Engg and Tech in Islamabad. Apparently HEC has also given its blessing to this venture.

  549. August 9th, 2008 7:32 pm

    PUNJAB UNIVERSITY IS BEST.

    BEST LL.B
    BEST LL.M (2 YEARS ACTUAL RESEARCH PROGRAME)
    PHD LAW

    All other private Universities like 2 in lahore are wasting students time money and future as they provide hardly 8 months LL.M programme. Oh My God!
    See. “it was a public service message”
    be safe, be aware, choose right university for secure Future.
    Bye,
    Allah Hafiz.

  550. Syed Safdar Ali Kazmi says:
    August 10th, 2008 5:55 am

    i am a student of commerce and i think IBM is far better than
    iqra

  551. MAK says:
    August 10th, 2008 2:57 pm

    I assume that people who have contributed above, in response to HEC university rankings, are educated, but unfortunately there comments indicate a total lack of objectivity expected from graduate of any discipline. One person commented that his university is best best because he saw talent there, another mentions his institution should be rated higher because its graduates are in the employ of renowned firms etc. What objective criteria is this? Talent is not enough, its application is the important factor. Also how many graduates from other institutions may be in in high quality employment? Just rooting for your own university is not enough – you must try and find find out what factors were taken into consideration in order for the rankings to be drawn-up. This is what all national and international educational set-ups do – subjectivity must be absence from any such enterprise. Unless you have had experience, both quantitative and qualitative, of all the different HEI’s included in the list then please refrain from giving such partisan views airing on an internation platform as this.

  552. August 11th, 2008 2:08 pm

    COMSATS is the best!!!!

  553. muHAmmAD Ali says:
    August 27th, 2008 5:01 am

    m StdyinG in MAju, i THiNK mAJU iS best amOng the Lot

  554. MehTaab says:
    August 29th, 2008 6:59 am

    Assalam O aliqum 2 all brothers and their sisters.. 1st of all i wud like 2 introduce myslf..well my name,s Mehtab n i m 4m RWP ,i applied in NUST 4 BBA but My merrit n0 was 422 so i was unable 2 get addmission there. and at that time addmissions 4 FAST,, BAHRIA universities were CL0seD,, Then I applied in SZABIST<<RIPHAH<<MAJU<<anD Cleared addmission Tests Of all Mentioned ABoVe,,N0w the problem is that My parents R N0t Taking Any decision 4 me n they ve allowed me 2 choose any of university and I m confused wat 2 do yarrrooooooo,, By Knwing abt RankinG Of These Universites By HEC I m dishearted..wat 2 do yaarooo?????????

  555. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    August 29th, 2008 7:46 pm

    @Mehtab

    HEC ranking is not a very good thing to go by. Based on my own experience I would recommend MAJU. They have a good learning environment and a good faculty. As for SZABIST and Riphah, they still have a long way to go before becoming institutions of substance. While Riphah is more concerned about making money, SZABIST Islamabad has never really picked up. Bahria is more of a “fauji” kind of institution and merit is not their first priority. As for FAST, its good, in fact quite good, specially in CS. But I can’t say if its good in BBA as well.

    My suggestion would be to visit all the instituions and try to analyze the faculty, since institutions depend on the faculty they have. Some hi-fi institutions like NUST do not have the best faculty, while others like FAST have a relatively very good faculty.

  556. Mehtaab says:
    August 30th, 2008 5:39 am

    ThAnk U V mUch AHmad Bhai 4 guiding me,, U mean 2 say tht HEC ranking duz nt matter ,, ranking 0f Szabist is gud among those 3 n i was thnkng 2 go 4 it ,,bt i thnk its karachi campus of szabist whch makes it prominent n islamabad campus is nt gud enough na?,, u,ll nt believe bt nw my intensions r diverted n i wish 2 join MAJU jst coz of u..ThanKS aGAin BrO…Plz PRAY 4 me..

  557. Arbaz says:
    September 1st, 2008 7:02 pm

    hey! you should for NUST till next year. all other universities can’t even compete with the standards. its the Pakistan’s top rank university about science and tech now including IT and its rank in Asia is 17 by ASIA WEEK universities ranking.

  558. Arbaz says:
    September 1st, 2008 7:05 pm

    SZABIST, isb is still much better than MAJU. so go to SZABIST if you dont want to waste your 1 education year.

  559. Mehtaab says:
    September 2nd, 2008 5:11 am

    AssALam o Aliqum…. ThAnks ArbAz Bhai… now Finally i,ve decided 2 join SZABIST As iT is Ranked 3rd By HEC And Also iTs recognized by Almost ALL over the world..i m planning 2 transfer credit hrs after 4th semester 2 UK… MAJU is nt recognized By UK So iTs credit hrs r nt transferable…SZABIST has signed a contract wd WALES UNIVERSITY LONDON thT WALES university LONDON wud grant addmsn 2 studnts of SZABIST aftr 4th Semester iF they wish 2 join iT….2morrw m Goin 2 Submit Dues oF SZABIST… ThAnKS 2 ALL of U FrienDsss>>:XXXXXXXXX N RAMZAN MUBARAK 2 All Of U>>>><<<

  560. September 7th, 2008 7:58 am

    well,
    i think for character building and for your bright future. do join international Islamic University electronic engineering
    cuz our dean faculty is pulling back many other Professors and Doctors of universities like nust giki etc
    and the last update is that HOD of mechatronics department of nust EME has recently joined IIUI, Islamabad. Thanx

  561. riaz says:
    September 11th, 2008 4:58 am

    nice sharing keep it up.

    here is some more information http://www.humdumz.blogspot.com

  562. fahad says:
    September 27th, 2008 4:37 am

    Now u can pay your Mobilink postpaid bills simply by calling MCB helpline at 021 111 000 622 and pay bills 24 hours a day without standing in line .

  563. YOUNIS says:
    October 5th, 2008 11:53 pm

    AOa.

    very good post admin I like it.

    here is my pakistani forum please join and share your idea.

    http://younisoft.com

  564. Ahmed says:
    October 7th, 2008 9:33 am

    From my opinion and analysis of all the universities. I have come to the conclusion that Hajvery University (HU) is the best. HU is on top is terms of HEC ranking and also in term of quality education and atmosphere.

    HU has the best campus in Pakistan-in fact it is even no less than any other top international university. I am a graduate of HU and now I am working in U.A.E. Banks and other multinational corporations also regard Hajvery as a top university.

  565. October 7th, 2008 10:35 pm

    If we are not in the list then what about Forman Christian College ( FCC n University)

  566. Sameer says:
    October 8th, 2008 6:10 am

    Aslam o alikum, i dont know about rankings .But i made search and found this site.My personal view , that it is helpful for the students of intermediate.To choose best

  567. zahid says:
    October 12th, 2008 2:07 am

    virtual university is the best. This year round about 10,000 students got admissions in VU. I think this is all time record.

  568. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    October 13th, 2008 9:13 am

    I wonder how the number of students studying at a university is a sign of the good quality of the university. Also many people believe that the number of students applying to a university is an indication of the quality of a university.

    In my view a university must be gauged by the quality of its faculty and how it responds to market demands.

  569. Zia Ahmed says:
    October 14th, 2008 6:53 am

    Most of the students go to Government Universities due to their low fee, on the other hand private institutions are very costly regardless of their educational quality, this is what i think.

  570. Zia Ahmed says:
    October 14th, 2008 6:57 am

    Furthermore any one who is not able to get admission in government university, then only option left for him is to go for any private university.

    And highly ranked private universities are very costly eg: pkr 8000 – 12500 per course.

    No doubt these highly ranked private universities are far far away from a common people, spically for those who also have to support their families.

  571. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    October 14th, 2008 11:47 am

    I think the culture of working along with uni study should come to Pakistan as well. That is the only way to pay higher fees to get good education. Our students are used to living off their parent’s money till their MS which is unthinkable in the West, except of course for the well to do.

  572. Junaid Siddiqui says:
    October 15th, 2008 3:17 am

    NUST has been ranked 376 in the recently released Times Higher Education-QS (THE-QS) World University Rankings (WUR).

    http://www.topuniversities.com/worlduniversityrankings/results/2008/overall_rankings/fullrankings/

    NUST is the only Pakistani university in the top 500 list. QS ranking is a prestige world university rankings and securing a position in top 500 is a great achievement for NUST.

  573. Riaz Haq says:
    October 18th, 2008 1:25 am

    In preparation for a panel discussion at the upcoming NED Alumni convention 2008 in Hartford, CT, I have a new post on my blog about the HEC university rankings controversy in Pakistan. Here’s a brief summary of it:
    Higher Education Commission in Pakistan released its first and only ranking of universities in Pakistan in October 2006. Prior to this HEC effort, there had been no formal attempts by any public or private group to establish a set of criteria and judge Pakistani institutions of higher learning. While this is a laudable first step in the right direction, it is clearly not the be all and end all of the universities’ ranking process in Pakistan. It can be significantly improved. As expected, there is a genuine controversy swirling in Pakistan on the HEC ranking methodology and the results. This ongoing controversy may be the reason why the HEC skipped the annual rankings in 2007. The main criticism of the HEC assessment criteria is the emphasis of quantity over quality that unduly favors and rewards institutions with large graduate programs. Another key criticism is the lack of peer and employer assessments of the universities and their alumni.
    I invite you to read the full post and comment on it at:
    http://www.riazhaq.com/2008/10/hec-university-rankings-in-pakistan.html

  574. AHMED says:
    October 18th, 2008 6:10 am

    i am very shocked when i saw that there is no name of BAHRIA univeristy(ISLAMABAD CAMPUS) in HEC ranking.where as BAHRIA is one of the best insituition in managment as well as enng.

  575. October 18th, 2008 12:02 pm

    yes i agree with you that NUST is the only prestigious university of pakistan and i can easily compare its status with PIEAS and i think NUST should be at the top of engineering universities….

  576. Shamsa Baloch says:
    October 19th, 2008 5:10 am

    afsoos ki baat hai balochistan mein aisa koi bhi university nahi hai jo top list mein a sakta hai…the deprived province but yet the richest of all the provinces of Pakistan…we are your part and why are we backward, i understood today…there is no such educational development in my land and that is the result of being so back….Please try to contributr your part and bring Balochistan equal to all the province, where the people will not feel alien in their own homeland….

  577. Taimoor says:
    October 19th, 2008 10:02 am

    this is a wrong ranking as ned is omit from this ranking it is the best engineering university all over the pakistan and it is very difficult to take admission as there are highly standard qualification required only so in this perspective i think this ranking is not a right one

  578. October 26th, 2008 11:53 am

    I am doing BS-Telecom Engineering 4m The Hajvery universty Lahore.I want to do Job in Dubai in future.i don’t know that is UAE companies accept this university Degree… and also not know the procedure of apply for visa and the cost of living in Dubai e-g Residence,Food,Clothes,Transport etc.
    If any one knows this kindly answer me on engineer_hajverian@yahoo.com.Thanx.

  579. Sahar says:
    November 1st, 2008 4:50 pm

    Shamsa i understand your feelings. and yeah i love my homeland too, that is PAKISTAN… I m a true Pakistani and want to snatch it from the bad people’s hand. i promise u, u will here my name in the prominent personalities of pakistan in future. INSHALLAH. and i will give this country a new way. this is most important anbition of my life, more important then my ownself. for this reason i m in US right now. want to gain the best so that i can give PAKISTAN the best. as it deserves do. please pray for me. and i love u all PAKISTANIS…

  580. Rabi says:
    November 1st, 2008 11:39 pm

    Shamsa Baloch,

    I agree with you that our government has failed all of it’s citizens and more so for residents of Balochistan at all levels.

    This country has been run by crimnals who have no desire to respond to aspirations and needs of it’s citizens.

    For some time I have personally been raising the voice against all forms of injustices committed by this crimnal oligarchy ( establishment ) and after a long lull I am starting to hear echo of it and may be and just may be we are turning the corner. I have great hopes from Lawyers movement.

  581. HUMAYUN says:
    November 4th, 2008 2:59 am

    I BELIEVE PEC has not ranked well
    uet taxila is no. 1

  582. salman says:
    November 4th, 2008 6:36 am

    plz tell me about the ranking of inststutes of bussiness and information technology.as im studying in punjab university

  583. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    November 4th, 2008 8:55 am

    I think university rankings are over-rated. What matters more are the skills of the graduate and not which university he/she graduated from. If I am hiring people I would look at their skills and over-all profile and would not give a job just because one is the graduate of some highly ranked university. HEC has been stressing on the criterion for too long now.

  584. ali says:
    November 6th, 2008 1:30 am

    Paia the HEC should rank themself on an International level where we stand according to our course subjects and structure. There is no use of doing this ranking on a national level. I dont c any major output of this ranking what HEC want to prove from this?

  585. Adnan says:
    November 6th, 2008 10:29 am

    Dear Aqeel,

    Hajvery University (HU) is a very good private sector university. It is a chartered university and also has W category ranking. I am also a MBA graduate of HU and working in Microsoft Dubai.

    Employers also consider HU as a respectable university. Dubai is a very competitive market and seeks for the best people.

    Good Luck and Enjoy your time at HU.

  586. syed ali raza zaidi says:
    November 7th, 2008 2:09 am

    Dear sir

    I m a student and i really believe that King Edward Medical University must also be among the top Pakistani medical universities.

  587. adil shehzad says:
    November 7th, 2008 3:21 am

    hy!i don’t agree on this ranking list.in this list hec forgate quaid-e-awam university of engineering science and technology nawabshah.why?it is the most important university of engineering sector in pakistan.

  588. Farhan says:
    November 9th, 2008 4:32 am

    after reading almost all the comments and suggestions regarding universities ranking and all,i believe that the person who is intending to study more like postgraduate degree,just visit to hec website you will find all recognised universities and colleges there whether its preston or lolo university as long as you find university name is hec recognition and sindh government chartered list you can take admission with out thinking of whether university is with good reputation or bad because nobody or organizations cannot challenge the degree or instituition as long as they are classified on hec approved list,as far as career or getting job concerns,then its tottaly upto you if you have previous job exposures or foreign exposure and you have good looks and personnality and know how to tackle and the position you are applying for is matching with your experiences then there should be no worries whether you have done pg from lums,iba or preston

    cheers

    Farhan

  589. Shamsa Baloch says:
    November 13th, 2008 8:45 am

    I would like to thank Rabi and Sahar for understanding my feelings. I want Pakistan to prosper to the best and I am sure about the potentials and talents available in Pakistani people.
    If we try to educate the Youth of Pakistan and guide them in the right path..I think Pakistan will gain a lot in the future.
    I am happy that Pakistaniat is within you, may it remain.
    Anytime when ever I am needed to serve Pakistan in anyway I am there too…
    I’m trying my best to bring changes in Balochistan in education field…InshAllah, with Allah’s grace and Help we will accomplish the Mission….

    High Regards,
    Shamsa Baloch

  590. arsalan says:
    November 18th, 2008 5:24 am

    iam arsalan hanif from karachi. i am to much upset that ned university are not included in the ranking . ned plays a great role for making good engineers in pakistan. and we all know that there are so many fault in the administeration but if we look around the all avialable resources then i came to conclusion that ned is just enough. i want that concerened authorities should take action

  591. November 21st, 2008 2:31 am

    university means not only study but research as well. We have a big problem to face. many teachers of university assumes that they have to teach only which is very wrong. Infact the universities must be ranked on the basis of research only. HEC must keep an account on the basis of Number of Ph.D holders, Post Doc, Research Scholars and status of students.

  592. Sadia says:
    November 22nd, 2008 10:49 pm

    Well, i would like to include that ” Iqra University ” never deserve to be in this good rankings , there must be a complete interview from the students to be taken from HEC, so they would come to know the problems students are facing.

    * They started failing students to generate revenue.

    * Totally a sick management of Iqra University

    * Totally weak Administration and no Management. Even they teaching us management courses but they dont even have their own setup management.

    * Faisal K. Qureshi replies no quries for students to help. He just have one answer “Its a University Policy we cant help”
    These teachers should be banned who dont have any strength to help students and acquiring high position in the University.

    * Tentative results and even Tentative Exam Schedules

    * No University pannel includes in events to watch up whats going on

    * the best teacher of “Supply Chain Management” named Mr.Haneef Memon is terminated from the University just because he had a class in Auditorium and they setup the Movie night at the same time and same day Haneef Memon has a class. When Haneef Memon talked in this issue that the class is more important, They terminated him as well. Other then that we bared a big loss in this subject. Other teacher that joined in the middle was an Engineer. He has no knowledge about Supply Chain Management.

    * Teachers are Pathetic now, they dont teach well and started failing students, they usually setup criteria from the starting to fail up to 70% students.

    *Events Organized by LIPTON. BBA students are chosen as volunteers and they cheated in Event. They favour in Auditions to BBA students and friends. That Happened in LIPTON BATTLE, you can see the upcoming program will be telecast on Channels, the bands from IQRA UNIVERSITY performed Pathetic, as they selected bands in favoritism even auditions were taken 2nd time because of Cheats and a university pannel ” Miss Rabia” was there in the pannel to setup for auditions but the same bands were selected. ” Again Cheating Done”

    * They started Suspending students for no reasons to generate revenue , they “FINE” students

    * And many other problems faced by students

    Well there should be a criteria setup by HEC that if 30 to 40% students started failing in the desired subject then there must be a warning letter to be issued to the Teacher else he should be terminated from the university. Because if 40% of the students are failing then the teacher is the one who is not teaching good and making problems for the students and generating revenue. More the students fails more the revenue generated.

    HEC should organize the specfic criteria for students to whom Iqra University Fails. There must be Rs. 200 to the ones who are giving the failed papers. Because most of the MBA students do job and they try their level best ,but teacher fails for no reasons so there should be no Heavy amount of Fees to be taken in order to repeat the course or subject in which the student fails.

    There must be the best administration to be chosen, the most professional administration in every university, and it has to be strictly prohibited that there will be no jobs for Iqra University Students in the University, Its because,I revealed from some resources that Iqra University do Cheats and started passing the failed students if the students gives money to concerned people in the Iqra University.

    There are other problems ,even other many problems the students facing from Iqra University. And will come up soon again from Interviewing more students.

    Hope HEC should take actions in this account.

    Thanking you,

    Iqra University Student
    XYZ

  593. Cimpatheez says:
    November 25th, 2008 8:07 pm

    XYZ, I agree with whatever you said about Iqra University. Unfortunately, this is restricted to just IU, but is being practiced at many other private institutes, which proves to be equally lucrative for both institutes as well as for teachers. Institutes gain through extra fees for the semester and courses that students would have to undertake, and teachers through encouraging students to take private tuitions from the same teachers who have been failing them deliberately.

    Now this is the direct outcome of lack of implementation of educational policy and the control by the educational authorities to keep a check on universities to ensure that a certain level of standard is achieved.

  594. November 27th, 2008 12:14 pm

    Our University SSUET is a Best University in karachi or Pakistan as wel

  595. Ali says:
    November 30th, 2008 5:45 am

    i ve done B.COM.. now wan do MBA..can any1 guide me vich university is best fo MBA in islamabad..thnx

  596. Shariq (NEDian) says:
    December 2nd, 2008 9:04 am

    NED is the best and also standard is good then NUST AND GIkI .Their totally depend on merit whereas the GIKI is just collecting money and NUST is in ranking coz it is a forces university thats its.othere wise NED is COOL and their engineer also have well reputated name in this fast and modern era of world

    NED is the best forever and ever.

  597. Pakistani says:
    December 6th, 2008 2:17 pm

    I totally agree with Sajjad. I wud like to say tht few depts of ned are very gud but not all are gud. As far as i know Muet has highly sophisticated equipments available in many deparments and a gud teaching staff overall.

  598. December 7th, 2008 9:27 am

    i m tanveer ahmed i m in bright future public college in inter. ihv listen from my friends that in pakistan mehran universty of engineering is the best universty in pakistan. it played an important role in the industriees of pakistan .i think the mehran universty is 1-2 position in pakistan. welcome…!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  599. Mahesh says:
    December 11th, 2008 4:07 am

    Yes muet is better than manny in pakistan

  600. XYZ says:
    December 15th, 2008 3:20 am

    Dear Author, You said rightly that NED is good but its for you bcz you got your graduation may be. Overall ranking matters many things like facilities to students,faculty,reserch work,publications etc.May be NED is behind due to this factors but at one point i am agree that for pakistani talent does,nt matter whether it is NED,Oxford,or a normal instution.
    Regards,
    Student from UOM

  601. Waqas Butt says:
    December 20th, 2008 7:23 am

    AoA,
    I m a student of NED …I think NED deserves to b on da bottom .. 90% of the teachers tht teach in NED are just pass outs who have no practical experience watsoever ………but everything doesnt go by books…THey have no equipment to show the students or even if they buy sum equipment then they publicize those equipments as show pieces ………i-e , nothing 4 da student …..practical workbooks which we have to buy are just like scrap ,even the teachers do not know wats written in them…… The teachers think tht as they are a government employee , no student can complain against them .but ,on their part ,they give marks only to selected students ,,, When i first came to Ned ,i came here with high hopes about my future but soon all my hopes were broken n now i m in final yr ….the administration just adds seats in every dept …….no dot care about the standard watsoever…..NED sucks ……but sayin this doesnt really comforts me , but i do not want to live in a fools paradise ………..

  602. Zia Ahmed says:
    December 23rd, 2008 3:05 am

    Waqas Butt, you are right. I agree with you. But this is not only in NED, but also in all other govt universities.

    Karachi university, Sindh university, Mehran university etc.. all are same. No difference.

    May Allah bless our educational institutes. (Aamin)

  603. Fahad Azhar says:
    December 25th, 2008 4:25 pm

    Bahria University (BU) new upcoming institution improving very fastly and providing the quality of education to the students, there is no name in this context

  604. Imran Nazim says:
    December 27th, 2008 4:04 pm

    University of Management and Technology, Lahore, is also showing good results in the job and commercial market of Pakistan. UMT’s admission criteria is strict, but the degree awarding criteria is the MOST STRICTEST in PAKISTAN! Degree awarding for graduates is 2.75 CGPA and for Post-Grad, it’s 3.o CGPA. There are several students who leaves UMT just because they don’t fulfill the degree requirements. The faculty of Engineering in UMT is highly qualified and almost 35% of permenant faculty members are PhDs. Same is the Management faculty. The most speciality of PhD faculty members is that they are fully devoted to the University and pay full time for counselling. Labs are also well equipped. Specially after shifting to new campus at Johr Town, the University is now an attraction for students from all perspectives. I would say, from all aspects, ranking of UMT in Punjab should be at number 5, after LUMS, UET, FAST and PU.

  605. January 3rd, 2009 6:46 am

    I agree with Imran Niaz. UMT (previously known as ILM) has shown significant improvements in terms of its campus, extra-curricular activities, number of programs introduced and of course, the faculty which is considered the best faculty of business schools. Plus, it is directly competing with LUMS; in fact, many of our faculty members used were in LUMS before they joined UMT. And being an HR professional, I know that majority of UMT graduates are placed in top-notch companies. So I believe it should come in the top ten ranking.

  606. Jaad Syed says:
    January 5th, 2009 10:52 am

    yeah you are right the ranking was crooked!

    Waqas Butt i would suggest that you take a round of the so called better universities, like Mehran !

    Then you will say that atleast NED teachers have theoretical knowledge ! The teachers there don’t have these either !

    While on the other hand i would say that FAST and SSUET can be compared to NED and might be placed ahead !

    but Mehran !?!? no way !

  607. Khurram Khan says:
    January 7th, 2009 6:25 am

    Respected All:

    I have just gone through the views and the opening lines of the author. I strongly agree with the ranking of the NED University and disagree with the authors comments about the ranking

    We are in 21st century; please have a look at the following web page of the Electrical Engineering Department: http://www.neduet.edu.pk/electrical/default.htm

    Do it look likes a university webpage, I don

  608. imran says:
    January 7th, 2009 11:13 am

    what about
    MOHAMMAD ALI JINNAH UNIVERSITY

  609. yasir zulfiqar says:
    January 7th, 2009 3:12 pm

    hi im the student of pieas and agree with ahmed kamran no doubt pieas is the best intitute of pakistan but her policy of course designing need to be changed now

  610. Abid Ali says:
    January 10th, 2009 3:08 pm

    I would disagree with my friends who suggest that UMT has shown improvements .Some of my friends who are studying at UMT are quite unsatisfied by there procedures, systems and quality of teaching. Five years back when I was choosing a University for myself; I opted for Hajvery University instead of UMT. I think from 1990 Hajvery University has achieved many milestones in terms of faculty, international linkages, quality of teaching, job placements for there graduates and infrastructure (which is there best part and no university in Pakistan comes up to that level). From my personal experience if I look back at my batch of MBA, it is hard for me to recall any of my friends who is earning less than RS 840,000 annually. Hajvery University has the highest retention of professors and faculty members and above all Hajvery has two purpose built beautiful campuses in the heart of the city i.e. Gulberg, unlike UMT campus which is located in outskirts of Johar Town and the condition of roads are also pathetic. My advice to you guys is to visit Euro Campus of Hajvery.

    I am personally working as Manager in Barclays Bank Dubai.

  611. jawaan says:
    January 12th, 2009 11:23 am

    this is great list of universities in pakistan to help those who have no idea where they stand.

  612. Zia Ahmed says:
    January 15th, 2009 2:42 am

    But we are bit hopeful for changes by HEC’s new chairman. Lets see…

  613. mansoor aziz says:
    January 18th, 2009 10:12 pm

    i went to lums and had no entry test because i topped the g-mat so i got in straight. My first job was at nestle at 60, 000 per month. Basically all i can say is LUMS is the best for business.
    bUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT YOUR SELF BECAUSE IF YOU ARE AN AVERAGE STUDENT YOU WILL DIE IN THE STUDIES AT LUMS.

  614. Hamid says:
    January 18th, 2009 11:09 pm

    Dear Mansoor Aziz, sorry to disappoint you, but there is no such thing as “topping” in GMAT. Nor does anyone get through directly. So, please don’t misinform people.

  615. MUHAMMAD ALI NAGRI says:
    January 19th, 2009 10:26 am

    COMSATS should one of top university becaz it has high qualified faculty.comsats is perfect in everything.whether in case of faculties or facilities

  616. HAQ says:
    January 22nd, 2009 1:43 am

    I DONT AGREE WITH THE ABOVE RANKING. ALL PAK. UNI. ARE ON EQUAL FOOTINGS UNLESS ANYONE THEM ACQUIRE INTERNATIONAL RANKING AMONG 100 TOP UNIVERSITIES.

  617. shaista says:
    January 24th, 2009 7:10 am

    where does “The First Women University” Fatima Jinnah University stand in this ranking?

  618. Salman Javid says:
    February 6th, 2009 4:04 am

    Hi and Salaamz,I want some information about those engineering institutes who are not recognized from PEC but occupy good position from HEC i-e “W” ranked. Whts the future of their alumni.I am student of BSc electrical engineering from UMT lahore.It isn’t accrediated from PEC. but is awarded W ranke from HEC.I am very afraid about my future.
    If you can help me in this regard, I mean if you have any information in this issue, then plz inform me through mail.I mean should i carry on my engineering through this institute or not?
    I will be very thankful to you.
    Allah Hafiz

  619. Irfan jamil says:
    February 7th, 2009 10:47 pm

    Ranking methodology: criteria and weights
    Universities are Ranked by several indicators of academic or research performance, including alumni and staff winning Nobel Prizes and Fields Medals, highly cited researchers, articles published in Nature and Science, articles indexed in major citation indices, and the per capita academic performance of an institution.

    Quality of education+ Quality of education+Research output+pre catpita performance.

    1) Alumni of an institution winning Nobel Prizes and Fields Medals
    2)Staff of an institution winning Nobel Prizes and Fields Medals
    3)Highly cited researchers in 21 broad subject categories
    4)Articles published in Nature and Science*
    5)Articles indexed in Science Citation Index-expanded, and Social Science Citation Index
    6)Per capita academic performance of an institution

    Regards by Eng.Irfan jamil (BE-Electrical) Harbin Engineering university china.

  620. obaid says:
    February 11th, 2009 1:28 am

    where is iiui international islamic university?,,,,,,,,,………………

  621. February 11th, 2009 7:01 am

    Respected Sir, I am in to my professional line and would be retiring in few years. I would like to know where is the standing of AIOU, Islamabad and what would be my scope if I do my MBA Exective from there. Thanks and regards.

  622. Aslam says:
    February 12th, 2009 1:05 am

    @Shista:

    You can check Universities and affiliated colleges ranking on HEC website at URL below…

    http://dev.hec.gov.pk/UniversityFinal2/RegionUniversity.aspx

  623. nabeel says:
    February 14th, 2009 2:41 am

    he .. i want to ask u about international islamic university islamabad (iiui)

    its mangment sciences iss on top ..

    whay islamic uni iss not on the list??

  624. irshad ali says:
    February 15th, 2009 5:14 am

    mehran university is the best university in sindh province there is no doubt
    i pride my university b/c teachers teach us heartly.

  625. SupeR ko0l WaqaR says:
    February 15th, 2009 8:16 am

    I WANT TO ASK THAT WHAT IS THE RANK OF SIR SYED UNIVERSITY OF ENGINEERING & TECHNOLOGY IN THIS RANKING SITE.PLZZZZTELL ME.OK

  626. zain us sadat says:
    March 6th, 2009 12:25 am

    I have done BBA(Hon) in Finance from Karakurum International University Northern Areas Now I would like to get Admission in MBA from Any Prestigious University So Help me in this regard plz

  627. Rahil says:
    March 7th, 2009 1:56 am

    advise 4 GIK studnt (inam) Plz dnt submit greedy complimnts C0MsI@N Comsats;)

  628. ahmed jamal says:
    March 13th, 2009 1:20 pm

    Hello,
    Sir,
    I want to know about the top rank universities in karachi city for the commerce group. thank you. waiting for your message.
    sincerely,
    ahmed jamal

  629. zia says:
    March 14th, 2009 6:12 am

    Hello,
    Sir,
    I want to know about the top rank universities in lahore city for the commerce group. thank you. waiting for your message.
    sincerely,

  630. UMAIR ASIF says:
    March 18th, 2009 8:59 am

    hello i think the best university of Islamabad is international islamic university because the university has values with having commitments with students and with parents which helps the beings to accomplish their goals and make them the successful human being. and the department of MASS COMMUNICATION is going great. they are teaching new techniques to come up with the latest technology and severe challenges of future. thanks

  631. Kalim ullah says:
    March 22nd, 2009 9:25 am

    hello Sir,
    Please tell me which universtry offers Mechanical Engineering in Islamabad and rawalpindi
    Watiting for your replay .thanks a lot

  632. kazim ali says:
    March 22nd, 2009 10:18 am

    i am very pleased to say that i am student of numl hyderabad.i am proud of numl because numl is best for education.numl build the confidence of student.the students of numl can do every thing in the world.

  633. kazim ali says:
    March 22nd, 2009 10:31 am

    numl is the universty that makes man perfect.i am student of bba part 1. if you have any confusion releted buisness plz contect me my personal phone number is 03322685281

  634. kazim ali says:
    March 22nd, 2009 11:20 am

    i am very pleased to say that i am stutudent of numl hyderebad. i am student of bba.numl is the best for education.it provides every thing that student need.if you have any dificulty reletetet to buisness adminstration.plz contact me on my personal mobail number 03322685281

  635. Tariq Saghir says:
    March 24th, 2009 11:58 am

    I am a Chemical Engineer, University Of the Punjab. Now I am doing job, I think all engineering universities are best in Pakistan but where ever you are after job matters a lot. Best of luck for all Engineers & Professionals.

  636. March 25th, 2009 12:32 am

    You are right Tariq, all job places and specially the first job after education matters alot as a new comer learns everything from there, he goes into practicle and sees few of the things happening that he just read in books upto now.

  637. March 25th, 2009 5:17 am

    Ned karachi is good engineering institute as far as education is concerned, and giving low rank to this university is unfair……………………..

  638. March 28th, 2009 10:32 am

    hi everyone. i m student of f.science and want to have suggestion about Engineering Universities. i have been suggested National University of Sciences and Technology Islamabad. because i may get Financial Aid and Best education over there. if you have any better suggestion then kindly help me in this regard. my e-mail address is akn576@gmail.com. additionally my mobile number is 0333-4560961. please help me. i will be thankful…….

  639. Muhammad Waqas says:
    March 31st, 2009 6:30 am

    U.E.T Lahore is the best bcoz its not th private one

  640. March 31st, 2009 7:37 am

    i think that university of engineering and technology taxila is the best institution of pakistan after uet lahore but it is unfair to give it rank after uet jamshoro because in uet jamshoro all deppt. labs are incomplete while in uet taxila approximately all labs are well equiped.

  641. Sayed Sadaat says:
    April 1st, 2009 4:06 am

    Salam Every body!

    I am student of IM/Sciences doing my MBA, in 3rd Semester.
    Yeah IM/Sciences is a place that explores its education for each individual and make you all the scholors of the future, if you all want to build yours future and get satisfied education then join IM/Sciences …..
    IM/Sciences Transparent Education and grantteed Future..

  642. sajid ali says:
    April 7th, 2009 8:58 am

    Any one can tell me that the electrnics engeering in COMSATS abbottabad is recognized by pec or not! thanks alot,

  643. April 11th, 2009 1:53 pm

    @ Sadat,

    Sadat is IM/sciences the name of institute you are talking about, or is it a course name ?

  644. HAMMAD says:
    April 13th, 2009 7:53 am

    EAST AND WEST AIOU IS THE BEST

  645. QAMMAR says:
    April 15th, 2009 6:28 am

    AIOU SYSTEM IS THE STRONGEST EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM IN PAKISTAN.MANY COUNTRY HAVE COPIED THIS SYS FROM US.

  646. Abbas says:
    April 15th, 2009 7:53 am

    Allama Iqbal Open University is best recognized international University with best coaching, communication and examination system.

  647. adnan-ul-haq says:
    April 16th, 2009 3:06 pm

    I am student of Quaid-e-Azam Collage of commerce University of Peshawar doing my M.Com(One Year) in 2nd semester.

    Yes this is the place where provide complete study knowledge,i mean communication and examination system is perfect.

  648. April 19th, 2009 12:50 am

    You may also go for Virtual University, they have branches in whole country and covers so many courses.

  649. kazim says:
    April 20th, 2009 9:05 am

    i am shocked that why numl is not at 1st position.

  650. Adam says:
    April 21st, 2009 1:03 pm

    Air University is the emerging engineering institute in Islamabad with Excellent faculty specially Dr.Zafar Ullah Koreshi (world class nuclear scientist and proud of Pakistan).students of Air are very intelligent specially mechatronics department.they know alot of design and analysis softwares (e.g Pro-E 3.0 ,Ansys 10.0 ,Matlab 7.0,EES,CM,etc….) according to my experience many big names are just up to names not , not so qualified faculty and students but due to name of university students get job not on the basis of there knowledge.many may disagree but first experience and then talk .

  651. SAJID says:
    April 23rd, 2009 4:47 am

    I think Mohammad Ali Jinnah University is also a good university in Engineering and Bussiness departement

  652. Zaid Ahmad says:
    April 23rd, 2009 6:11 am

    Mr. Adam is right to some extent. I being the ex-student of Institute of Space Technoology has experienced that. Presently I am working in Iqra university. Our University is some of the top-most universities as far as I think. I have been in contact with my friends who were studying in other universities and arrived at this conclusion.

  653. April 24th, 2009 5:35 am

    I totally agree with this ranking of HEC as it’s based on the research culture, faculty abilities, lab resources and the academic environment provided by different universities of Pakistan and not based on the sentiments or biases of individuals as are shown by majority of the commenters here. I am sad to see that every one here is boasting about his/her own university without looking out of the box in the real perspective. I know quite a number of universities out of the highly exaggerated universities which don’t have even standard labs and class rooms!

  654. umme hani says:
    April 24th, 2009 8:52 am

    east or west
    COMSATS IS D BEST:)
    dont u ppl dare 2 jealous
    tata n bye bye
    now u ppl can jealous and reply angrily:)

  655. Khawaja M. Waqas says:
    April 28th, 2009 1:30 am

    It is really good for students to know accredited Universities in Pakistan.

  656. Agha Saood Khan says:
    April 28th, 2009 3:44 am

    Well people iam not surprised by the ranking cuz mehran is one of the best university in PAK although NED may accept students who hav higher HSC marks bt look on the other side i mean how hav they got the marks everyone is well aware of the education system in PAK (no offence)…
    Besides a university should also be recognized by other universities all over the world for example the Chemical Dpt in Mehran is supported by the university of Illinois USA
    and than their is afcrz the PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS Dpt well its S.P.E chapter (society of petroleum engineering)….
    but still its not the university that will give us the jobs its the ability of the student that gives him the JOB!!!!

  657. sheriff izhar says:
    April 28th, 2009 9:54 am

    i had concerns with PAF kiet…..\

    wht this university stands among top 10 university of Pakistan

  658. faiz says:
    April 29th, 2009 3:35 pm

    i am the student of m.phill genetics in hazara university.sir plz tell me the rank of hazara university among all pakistnai university.

  659. Emmen says:
    April 30th, 2009 4:00 am

    I have just graduated from Pakistan Institute of Engg. and Applied Sciences, Islamabad (PIEAS). Its a top class institute in terms of educated and experienced faculty, research facilities and the conducive culture. Believe me it deserves to be at number 1 in engineering schools.

  660. AZMAT NAZ says:
    April 30th, 2009 1:48 pm

    its unfair to declare GCU at No.6 in ranking list. im studying there in M.phil(Env.Sci) i didn’t find it inferior to anyother university.its a fact that GCU is still establishing but isn’t it an achievement that GCU has done alot for the promotion of higher education with limited resources???? HEC needs to play its role fairely because all the universities basically require lots of financial,technical,personals and research support from hec. good luck GCU

  661. Sohail Ahmad says:
    April 30th, 2009 6:39 pm

    oh
    there should be maintion of FUUAST in this ranking list

  662. May 1st, 2009 3:58 pm

    what about muhammad ali jinnah university (M.A.J.U) it should be included in the engneering list

  663. Aftab says:
    May 2nd, 2009 2:48 am

    Hi sir i m the student of mba in Qurtuba universite.please tell me about the degree value of qurtuba university

  664. M. Haseeb Khalid says:
    May 2nd, 2009 3:35 am

    i did not find Fast-NU in this I.T ranking, whereas it is the most recognized university in this field.

  665. Rizwan says:
    May 2nd, 2009 9:39 am

    I don’t find any reason why UET Lahore is pushed down. Currently im doing Master’s in Technical University Munich (essentially the top merit univesity in Germany), and if you consider students from Pakistan, you’ll find 99% of the grad students which are from UET Lahore.

    I personally believe that rankings mentioned there are not realistic.

  666. shehhzad says:
    May 4th, 2009 5:01 am

    Vu aslo a pakistani university .
    area of student Managment
    IT/computer science
    Arts

  667. May 8th, 2009 1:33 pm

    I m glad to see the ranking of the engineering universities of Pakistan, I would appreciate the efforts of the HEC which bring out the realistic listing, I ve seen a few students of NED arguing this list, but for their information i would like to add that they should see the HEC official website which clearly indicates the criteria of ranking.
    The guy from NED has posted few snaps showing different views of versity building I claim that even looking the pics Mehran could be awarded first rank but my dear merit is some thing else and those who has made this ranking are renown scholors of Pakistan, so first go and get the knowledge about the ranking criteria and then comment.
    thanks and regards
    f.a.malik

  668. imtiaz says:
    May 10th, 2009 9:00 am

    why NUST is not on the top????Even its no 1 university of Pakistan in all international rankings

  669. Syed Nusrat Ali says:
    May 10th, 2009 7:10 pm

    I dont know why name of Dow University of Health Siences
    [ DUHS] is not included among the leading universities of Pakistan .

  670. yasir says:
    May 11th, 2009 1:18 am

    Hello
    what about Allama Iqbal Open university, Is it not in ranking.

  671. Abdullah ch. says:
    May 11th, 2009 7:53 am

    I Feel pleasure after having a view of universities ranking in pakistan from the core of my heart esp. that my university is at no first i.e UAF Faisalabad.its a matter of honour for me and for all Agrarians.I appreciate HEC efforts on issuing this list of ranking.SO THANX to HEC as well as the founder of this website.

  672. Amir Jalal says:
    May 12th, 2009 12:57 pm

    Dear Farhan,
    NEDUET was ranked 11th in this ranking… no regrets, this list shows how bribe has been given to HEC for such damn ranking. Mehran university…. the worst one has been ranked 5th… NEDUET and DUHS are the two best universities of Engineering and Health sciences respectively and everyone admits that. so u be happy with ur ranking but value of students of these institues has not changed a bit by this fake ranking.

  673. Amir Jalal says:
    May 12th, 2009 12:57 pm

    Dear Farhan,
    NEDUET was ranked 11th in this ranking… no regrets, this list shows how bribe has been given to HEC for such damn ranking. Mehran university…. the worst one has been ranked 5th… NEDUET and DUHS are the two best universities of Engineering and Health sciences respectively and everyone admits that. so u be happy with ur ranking but value of students of these institutes has not changed a bit by this fake ranking.

  674. gulzaib khan says:
    May 13th, 2009 12:05 am

    what you think about superior university

  675. May 20th, 2009 8:27 am

    the city university is one of the leading university in pakistan in the field of it

  676. ismail says:
    May 26th, 2009 12:22 am

    Private Universities in Pakistan are just doing business. They are not interested in education for the sake of education. As far as my knowledge about these universities is concerned, they are just producing degree holders not scholars. No one get fails even with few days attendence in the class in a full academic session. The libraries, labs, and other academic facilites are sub-standards. There is little check and balance over these universities by the HEC. This check and balance is just a bureaucratic process and a formality only.Though entry/admission tests are conducted but merit at the time of admission is never strictly observed. Those having money can get admission. Poor can not think even visiting these universites and taking admission there is a far cry for such guys. If you have strong PR plus money you can buy a degree even in the back date. I would also like to mention here that this is not the case of all private sector universites, but fair universities committed to the quality of education for the sake of education are only a few. Majority of the Universities are earning a good business only. They can not be called universities in the full sense of the word. (May be some people will disagree with my these comments, but it is only an observation of mine)

  677. waqar says:
    May 26th, 2009 1:14 pm

    internation islamic uni is good but its test system is very bad

  678. Uk says:
    May 27th, 2009 9:22 am

    I feel really obliged to see Iqra Univeristy on this list.

    I would like to tell that i am a final year student of Iqra University from the department of Media Science. All my time here, i have scored a well acknowledged CGPA of 3.2 with my own hardwork, and i dont remember seeing anyone fail just like that for “GENERATING REVENUES”. thats insane,im sorry. i have seen, however, students failing because of their shortage of attendance and also because of their misbehaviour.

    As for the teacher here, ofcourse favourtism varies from teacher to teacher and course to course. but all what we have been taught here is relevant and understandable. something that we can apply later on in the relative field. I am very content with all the teachers here. Faisal Qureshi is one of the really good teachers here. I once had a problem with one of my business course i was doing with the MBA’s and he took his time out to make sure my problem was solved. What more can one ask for?
    I have no idea what kind of trauma did miss XYZ go through, but saying like that about a proper university is plain crap.

    Ofcourse we all have our differences but that doesnt alter the fact that Iqra is a well established, resourceful University.

    As far as “jobs” is concerned, i would just like to mention that i have also done an internship at InterFlow. and i have volunteered for a lot of other events at art council all through University’s source.

    Thankyou
    Ume Kulsum Wasty.$

  679. durrie says:
    May 29th, 2009 3:31 am

    Hey could some1 tell me how is GCU lahore for mphil in env sciences and if there is any other better uni?

  680. uzair says:
    May 29th, 2009 8:04 am

    which university is better for management field

  681. Muhammad Sabih toor says:
    May 29th, 2009 2:54 pm

    I think the universities of PAKISTAN are lagging in the world ratings but few of them like NUST have make thier mark – as jumped from 474 to 376 in international ratings. I am an intermediate student and looking for a suitable engg university… UET lhr and NUST are better than any other in PAKISTAN

  682. Sakhawat Ali says:
    June 2nd, 2009 5:18 am

    AOA.
    I dont know that what is the problem with NEDians. They are not happy b/c their Uni ranked below to MUET, not concerning with this that there are many other Uni’s which are above ranked to NED, so what is this????????
    There are so many friends of mine in NED so i know internal senario of this Uni, so dear dont critisize to any Uni.
    1st visit MUET, take information about it and then compare.
    Dont make decission by sitting in closed room.
    This not important that what is in your Uni, but important is that what you are getting from it.
    So just concenrtate on your studies.
    Regareds

  683. Sajid Shah says:
    June 6th, 2009 7:23 pm

    If we compare the number of engineering institutions here and in USA, we can see that the difference is astounding. Just for the reference, you can see that the number of engineering universities in USA are astounding. We are here fighting over the issue of being NUSTIAN or GIKIAN or NEDEAN… Why can’t we stop fighting and try to establish a similar number of educational institutions here in Pakistan with comparative quality level of education?

  684. Nauman says:
    June 7th, 2009 7:17 am

    hi frnds i”ve passed my fsc exam n i am intersted in institute of space technology in aerospace engineering.i request toMr. Zaid Ahmad bhai to help me n inform me that how is ist?

  685. uzair says:
    June 7th, 2009 1:49 pm

    hi i have done my fsc but my part 1st num r not good but i m sure that i would get 60% marks in fsc i want to do civil eng so plz guide me 4 some uni that i can get admit easily

  686. Engr Syed Raheel Gardezi says:
    June 8th, 2009 8:08 am

    elOw …
    m frOm mirpur university of science and technOlgy ( MUST)
    azad kashmir…
    the mater tO b discussed is that its the Only gOvernment sector engineering university Ov azad kashmir…and alsO prOviding best tO its students….sO it shOuld alsO be cOnsiderd while ranking…

    may ALLAH ALL MIGHTY keep all u pakistanis happy healthy nd sucessful

    thanx

  687. MUHAMMAD ASIF says:
    June 14th, 2009 7:19 am

    i have passed my f.sc exam. now i want to take admission in uet peshawar. what should i do for it?

  688. joshsmith says:
    June 16th, 2009 1:51 am

    We are here fighting over the issue of being NUSTIAN or GIKIAN or NEDEAN

  689. M Naveed Asghar says:
    June 16th, 2009 3:23 am

    hi

    i have done my graduation from BZU Multan.i want to get MBA degree.my nearly universty is BZU.would i take admision in bzu.is this universty has worth in pakistan

  690. Muhammad SAAD IRFAN says:
    June 18th, 2009 10:16 am

    ASALAM-O-ALIKUM

    i jst wanna say that comsats should be placed instaed of MEHRAN..
    dats my opion

    remember me in prayerz,

    SAADI:-)

  691. June 19th, 2009 4:11 pm

    May I suggest you all to take a look at Time’s world ranking?

  692. usman says:
    June 19th, 2009 6:21 pm

    hi i am an engineering student and have visted giki and nust both . I think giki should be ranked above then nust because tha standards of giki are much higher then nust . Their labs and workshops are much better.!

  693. sundas says:
    June 20th, 2009 12:52 am

    What about king edward college? Has it lost its popularity?

  694. ZAINAB says:
    June 20th, 2009 7:29 am

    I AM A STUDENT OF INTERNATIONAL ISLAMIC UNI ISLAMABAD.SORRY TO SAY BUT YOUR RANKING OF PAKISTANI UNI DISAPPOINT ME AND ALSO OTHER STUDENTS OF THE UNI.MAJOR PORTION OF THE COUNTRY STUDENTS ARE TAKING THEIR QUALIFICATOIN FROM THIS UNI.YOUR SURVEY IS NOT WELL PERFORMED.THIS IS A INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY MULTI CULTURAL STUDENTS ARE IN THIS UNI.I AM SHOCKED THAT ON WHICH BASES YOU MAKE RANKING.WHY YOU WANT THAT PAKISTANI PEOPLES REMAIN UNEMPLOYED.THANKYOU

  695. FARAH FARID MIRZA says:
    June 22nd, 2009 5:28 am

    NEDUET WILL BE ON TOP ONLY WHEN THE TEACHERS WILL UNDERSTAND THE MINDS OF STUDENTS AND THE NUMBER OF SUBJECTS WILL BE REDUCED.

  696. June 22nd, 2009 2:45 pm

    I am a student of BE Urban Engineering at NED University. NED truly deserves its low rank.

    Honesty and just examining is absent at NED. Engineering is absent; Past papers rule the examination days.

    Read what happens currently at NED,
    http://arificialintelligence.blogspot.com/2009/06/cheated.html

  697. uzair says:
    June 24th, 2009 3:48 am

    sorry to say iobm should be placed on third as u look on its campus & faculty..how cum iqra on 4th ..better correct uni rankings ..dont make people fool if u r already fool ..

  698. Muhammad Ali Nagri says:
    June 25th, 2009 2:17 pm

    Here majority of us r talking about NED,NUST & GIKI.But from all of them i considered COMSATS university is one of the top rank emerging engineering university of pakistan.beccaz NED,NUST & GIKI are established 20 years ago where as Comsats is build in 2001.and u could easily imagine how fast it has got a high reputation in engineering uni in few years.
    >>rank 8 among the engineering uni of pakitan….
    >>rank 5 in research productivity(all over pakistan)…..
    >>faculty of world top class universities like massicatus,stanford,oxford,,,etc
    >>best in telecom engineering and also in electronics and electrical power engineering(abottabad campus)…..
    >>coloborations with foreign unisities
    >>scholarships for deserving students.
    so COMSATS IS BEST

  699. Akber says:
    June 25th, 2009 2:21 pm

    Comsats u really rocks………………………………..

  700. mansoor aif says:
    June 27th, 2009 1:22 pm

    i am glad with hec ranking.its quite fair.if u consider the mere looks of a university a ranking criterion than GIFT university gujranwala should have been on no.1

  701. June 28th, 2009 1:53 pm

    Dow University of Health Sciences is ranked 40th according to the Web Popularity Ranking.

  702. June 30th, 2009 6:28 am

    Hi friend!
    will someone please tell me that what to do with the NTS card that I have recieved from NTS center. I have taken 71% marks in it. Now i want to bba. Which university are associated with NTS. Please tell me some there.

  703. July 2nd, 2009 5:08 am

    tell me about nts test exams

  704. engg tariq says:
    July 6th, 2009 5:22 am

    East and West CoMsAtS is THE BEST

  705. Rukhpar Mor says:
    July 7th, 2009 1:09 am

    Is there any way to find out how Pakistani universities rank at the international level? Just curious. Maybe I shall google that.

  706. Ali says:
    July 8th, 2009 4:44 am

    Hello, i hv cleared test of Mohammad Ali Jinnah Univ Karachi and i hv also seen the HEC Ranking Univrsties, i wanna know the demand of MBA degree of Maju. i m confused with these Univrsties Maju, Hamdard, Iqra.. plz help me out

  707. danish says:
    July 12th, 2009 4:15 am

    should i go for computer science in BZU Multan if i am to pay very low for study as compared to any other institute OR NOT???
    how much value computer science study is there in BZU??
    E mail me at
    danishkayani@rocketmail.com

  708. July 13th, 2009 3:08 am

    i want to know the scop of mecha tronics engineering

  709. WAQAR says:
    July 14th, 2009 9:05 am

    Hello, I WANT TO GET ADMISSION IN MBA, I M LIVING NEAR ISLAMABAD.SO PLEAS GUIDE ME ABOUT UNIVERSITIES SITUATED IN ISLAMABAD. AND ALSO WANT TO KNOW THE DEGREE VALUE OF IQRA AND MAJU ISLAMABAD CAMPUSES.

  710. Ali says:
    July 15th, 2009 1:13 am

    First is surely the Best IT University of Pakistan

  711. Atia says:
    July 15th, 2009 2:14 pm

    you can see international ranking at
    http://www.topuniversities.com/university_rankings/results/2008/overall_rankings/fullrankings/
    Nust is the only university that was able to make its mark and be in first 500 universities of the world………….

  712. July 17th, 2009 7:16 am

    i want to do css… kindly guide me about rules, syllabus and complete guidance regarding css.
    thanks

  713. ikhlas mohiuddin says:
    July 17th, 2009 11:23 am

    why PAF kiet not in the top 10 list of universities although it has a link with Pakistan Air Force.

  714. Maya Ansari says:
    July 20th, 2009 10:32 pm

    Stop Fighting.All the universities are the best because they remove the darkness of ignorance from us and make us good human being and citizen…please love your educational institute and try to become good and civilized citizen.I believe that Pakistan has more talented people than any of the other countries so use this talent in positive way rather than wast your time by saying, “this university is better than that”.I hope you will not mind my words.Thanks

  715. Badar Ayub Izhar says:
    July 22nd, 2009 7:22 am

    If I were to rank Pakistani Engineering Universities, then this will be my ranking

    1. GIK, Topi
    2. UET, Lahore
    3. NUST, distributed campuses
    4. NED, Karachi
    5. UET, Taxila

  716. July 22nd, 2009 2:51 pm

    i think in Pakistan study is only for rich man my father is middle class he cant afford my expensive & there is no man who give scholarship what i do

  717. Zoraiz Khurshied says:
    July 23rd, 2009 6:17 am

    Why isnt LUMS SSE in the rankings?

  718. Shakil says:
    July 23rd, 2009 12:06 pm

    Asslam O Alaqum,

    I am not feeling good cuz there are more universities in Pakistan are offering quality education but there names are not included, like Muhamad Ali Jinnah University, there should be more universities to be included that are performing good rather than showing some in this way perception of other people will change.

    Regds

  719. Uzair ahmed khan says:
    July 27th, 2009 5:53 am

    I think that Virtual university of Pakistan should be included in the top ten online universities of Pakistan. It is offering almost all courses online. But i have not seen its name.

  720. July 27th, 2009 10:55 am

    I like all UNI,i am saying all students please do hard working.

  721. Muhammad Toqir Ranjha says:
    July 29th, 2009 12:43 am

    Stop Fighting yar.All the universities are the best because they remove the darkness of ignorance from us and make us good human being and citizen

  722. zafar says:
    July 30th, 2009 3:30 am

    I am student of Abasyn University Peshawar. It was recently chartered and is the the first university in private sector with “A” ranking. I think government shall encourage such universities. I feel great difference after one of study at BBA .

  723. Zohaib Hassan says:
    August 3rd, 2009 4:24 am

    Well no doubt that GIKI is the best institute of PAKISTAN

  724. waqar anwar says:
    August 4th, 2009 10:15 am

    hello;
    sir,
    plz tell me degree value of islamic university and university of education of lahore i wait your ans plz sir

  725. Rai Muhammad Hassan says:
    August 6th, 2009 4:51 am

    Dear Sir,

    Please inform me regarding Ranking of Superior College?
    And please inform me degree value of MBA programe from Superior College.
    And What is about “W” category?

    Thanks
    Rai Muhammad Hassan

  726. August 7th, 2009 2:58 pm

    thank you very much for your effort

  727. August 8th, 2009 1:02 am

    hey boys it depend in you people….. doesn’t matter universities are only buildings.. same as oxford etc… but our minds… sorry i’m matriculate but know everything

  728. haseeb says:
    August 9th, 2009 9:55 am

    I think the best universities in business are university of central punjab (ucp)and university of management technology (umt). where they do stand ? ucp and umt students should be proud of their future . as for comsat my friend who studied there get asked by no one for job and so on…

  729. mahroon says:
    August 9th, 2009 9:57 am

    I think the best universities in business are university of central punjab (ucp)and university of management technology (umt). where they do stand ? ucp and umt students should be proud of their future . as for comsat my friend who studied there get asked by no one for job and so on…

  730. asghar jmd says:
    August 12th, 2009 4:16 am

    Gye pakistan!
    i m glad to see universities competing n hope soon v’ll be ranking among the top in the world. IF universities r not burnt!!

  731. Sadia says:
    August 13th, 2009 6:24 am

    Well i am a student of GIK INSTITUTE and according to me it is the top engineering university of pakistan. because of its high standard of education, its marvellous internships and also planned and secured future with highly payable jobs to those who worked hard there. THANKS

  732. Aamir says:
    August 13th, 2009 6:33 am

    I know Ms Sadia. You are absolutely right. I agree with you.
    Giki is the top ranking university of pakistan because it is out of GOVERNMENT reach and so as we know out of corruption. No seats available on special or any other cases.
    GOOD LUCK GIKI of your success of being a world’s one of the top ranking university. As it is now included in top 500 universities of the WORLD

  733. Adnan Zahid says:
    August 13th, 2009 6:34 am

    Of couse GIKI is no.1 no doubt at all.

  734. zaheer says:
    August 14th, 2009 10:44 am

    there should b seat available for refuges in all engineering universities as they have no eng. universities there areas. students of this area r talent but no facilities in there footstep

  735. wasay says:
    August 14th, 2009 12:40 pm

    GIKI is best

  736. Habib says:
    August 16th, 2009 3:10 pm

    Dont forget Behria University for its one unique programme i.e MBA (Maritime Studies). The successful completion of this programme ensure an attractive career in Port Operation in Pakistan. And in middle eastern countries like Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE etc. Thus Bahria University not mentioned above yet very important to be look at their Programmes.

  737. Ali says:
    August 16th, 2009 11:43 pm

    Everybody is saying giki is the best but in my opinion it has lost its repu too much. Even very average students in my class have got admission there. I got admission there too but for me nust was a much better option wid its ranking in top 400 universties of world and most important thing is that it maintains its repu.

  738. Asif Kamal says:
    August 17th, 2009 7:25 am

    In the Computer I think that the FAST-NUCES is the best university in the Pakistan…!!!!

    In the Engg PIEAS is the Best…!!!

    In the General QAU is really a best University..>!!!!

    LUMS is really a best in the Manangment…!!!!

    No compitition with the NCA in the Arts…!!!!

  739. SAAD says:
    August 18th, 2009 3:40 am

    Its biased analysis. as it has kept UET peshawar out of the picture. Even placing UET taxila and Jamshoro above it…

  740. khurram says:
    August 19th, 2009 2:42 am

    i am a student of FAST national university.It is one of the best universities in pakistan.It has best BS(CS) which assures the high standard of education as well as excellent jobs.

  741. khurram says:
    August 19th, 2009 2:44 am

    AOA
    I am a student of FAST national university.It is one of the best universities in pakistan.It has best BS(CS) which assures the high standard of education as well as excellent jobs.

  742. Fakhre alam says:
    August 21st, 2009 1:13 pm

    Ned may be good but gik has got its own reputation. Its has the most latest laboratories , which even nust lacks.. And i thinklaboratories are the key points in deciding rankings

  743. Aurangzeb Jadoon says:
    August 21st, 2009 1:59 pm

    AOA!!!!!
    I am a student of Comsats University Abbottabad.It is one of the best universities in pakistan.It has best BS(Earth Sciences) which assures the high standard of education as well as excellent jobs.

  744. Uneeb says:
    August 21st, 2009 3:18 pm

    Sir/Mam, When Private Universities Will Recognized By PEC?. Who Is Already Recognized By HEC..

  745. August 22nd, 2009 6:23 am

    iqra university is the best
    if any one is the best than no need of higher universty anddepartments

  746. SALMAN SALEEM says:
    August 24th, 2009 6:12 pm

    PLEASE TELL ME THAT WHICH IS PREFERABLE FOR ME UET OR NUST AND I AM LIVING IN LAHORE.IHAVE TO SUBMIT MY FORMS IN TWO DAYS.TELL MW FAST FRIENDS.

  747. MUHAMMAD WAQAS KHATTAK says:
    August 25th, 2009 3:29 am

    i want to join top university in pakistan national university of science and teachnology Islamabad

  748. zain says:
    August 26th, 2009 2:33 pm

    i have 917 marks in fsc and 235 marks in uet entry test. what is my admission status ?

  749. umar islam says:
    August 27th, 2009 1:31 pm

    hello. i m umar i got 871 marks in FSC. i like in lahore. i want to do chemcial engineering only.very few uni of punjab do dat. tell me uni other tha uet and nust. in which ic an get admission easily. its not necessory that uni should b very namfeul. if moderate than it will b also good. so tell me

  750. August 29th, 2009 5:11 am

    Respected sir,

    In F.Sc my marks are 867 and in UET Entry Test i got marks 190 so i wanna take admission in UET, Lahore in Chemical Engg. Please suggest me about some other universities of Province Punjab.

    In which universities i can take admission ?

  751. Shahzaib says:
    August 30th, 2009 9:51 am

    I Think NEd Is The Best Engineering university but it is loosing its Value by the increase in the No of seats plus the The increase in the Self finance Seat ……. And other which NED face is the Financial problem due to the Non funding From HEC

  752. Khalid Jan says:
    August 31st, 2009 11:41 am

    I am MEHRANIAN and CiVIL Engineer…AND feel proud on it.well its surprising for me…cause when i was in university Mehran University Jamshoro was 2nd in ranking…but presently he falls down. I think because of few recent accidents it declines…
    i felt laugh on the comments of Khalid R Hasan because he thinks Mehranian may not make B.M diagram…lolz…brother i think you met with a student who may not got his degree…anyways presently in market i found mehranians are working better than NEDians…am not competing but its true KHALID Sahb…cause in majority of the large projects you may find guys from M.U.E.T JAMSHORO…and thats todays true

  753. airmist says:
    September 1st, 2009 1:27 am

    A lot of work is needed to improve the standard of pakistani universities. They have got everything money, faculty, latest literature but still the thing missing is the lack of competition and lack of contact between the industries and universities. I am a student of univesity of engineering and technology taxila and it simply rockin..

  754. faisal says:
    September 1st, 2009 6:15 am

    good ranking bt i think uets are atthe top

  755. laiba says:
    September 4th, 2009 1:25 am

    is iba lahore best for bba or ibm(uet) lahore?plzzzzzzzz reply me.

  756. Muhammad Meraj Uddin says:
    September 4th, 2009 7:55 am

    This is my ranking of engineering universities

    1. GIKI
    2. PIEAS
    3. NUST

  757. Muhammad Meraj Uddin says:
    September 4th, 2009 7:56 am

    This is my ranking of engineering universities

    1. GIKI
    2. PIEAS
    3. NUST

    keeping Nust second is due to biasing by the pak army.

  758. Saifullah says:
    September 6th, 2009 6:14 am

    Salam to every one…………
    Ranking process is good for universties, because it give rise to competition…it does not mean that your universty is bad or good..it mean how much the student works and are talented.. I think it depends on one works, plzz work hard because you will face the future…….me from BUITEMS.
    REMEMBER ME IN YOUR PRAYERS

  759. TO LAIBA says:
    September 6th, 2009 6:20 am

    LAIBA IBA IS TOO BEST FOR YOU FOR DOING BBA……..
    GOD HELP YOU………..FOR MORE CONTACT 03159439315.

  760. shah hassan says:
    September 6th, 2009 3:00 pm

    i wana know where dow university is standing. in medical universities ranking

  761. Mubasher says:
    September 9th, 2009 3:34 am

    gud ranking i am satisfied this plz pray for me,,,,,,,,

  762. Nouman says:
    September 9th, 2009 9:09 am

    Asslam-o-alikum to every one .I am Nouman belonging to one of the best universities of Pakistan i.e Mehran university JAMSHORO.Altough it has lost its rank from 2 to 5 but still I am very happy that our university which belongs to a rural area is among the top five universities of Pakistan.
    I just want to say that each & every thing of our universitiy is perfact i.e laborties , library ,studies , practicals etc .Teachers are so much coperative that we don`t feel that it is a government university but still there is one problem in our university that is the party or polotical system, which is the greatest challange to the V.C of our university. It is a threat to our university.But inshallah there is hope that one day this system be kicked out from our university.

  763. Faiza Idrees Sindhu says:
    September 11th, 2009 2:41 am

    i am glad or may be a bit proud because, i did my BS (Hons) from the University of The Punjab and currently doing my masters in International Relations from QAU, Islamabad.. both are top ranked..yahoo :)

  764. ss says:
    September 14th, 2009 1:53 pm

    A very good discussion going on. Thanks God that now the students have lot of choices to opt for higher education within the country. And the results are there that we see lot of competition. And our GUROOS are no more than less than any world class professional.

    A complete list of universities could be found here…

    http://www.pakpressads.com/list_of_universities_in_pakistan.php

  765. Muhammad Aziz says:
    September 16th, 2009 12:17 pm

    Unbeleivable ranking, Criteria must be mentioned

  766. September 16th, 2009 9:02 pm

    AoA!
    My brother n cousin r in 2nd year, of Icom. Im trying to find out best university for them in Bcom, plz guide me in this reguard.

  767. Rabia Riaz says:
    September 25th, 2009 2:53 am

    I am currently doing my A Levels and want to know which eng. university can suite me best.Please inform me about the standard of education at LUMS SSE. I am looking forward to be admitted in that particular institute and information concerning it will be most welcome.

  768. September 27th, 2009 6:42 am

    Hi all,
    It’s me Mukesh from Hyderabad, currently pursuing my B.E in Electrical Engineering as a 3rd year student from MUET Jamshoro, Hyderabad. It is incredibly great to be the student of MUET, who have gotten top 5th rank in Pakistan’s Engineering Universities and top 2nd in Public Sector. You will find many students of MUET studying abroad or doing job there every year, having recognized skills MUET.
    In the last i’d like to suggest Engineering students, get yourself admitted to this university if you are really wishing to have quality of education amomg Pakistani Universities.

  769. Shani says:
    September 28th, 2009 4:15 am

    You missed one for Computer Science – Fast National University.

  770. September 29th, 2009 5:39 am

    i m very happy that our citizens r now completely mature to have a complete knowledge about their homeland and environment.

  771. September 29th, 2009 6:51 am

    @Rabia Riaz

    In which city are you looking for admission ?

  772. Tim says:
    September 29th, 2009 3:04 pm

    Always good to see more people interested in Pakistan University rankings!
    I am making a website with a page for each institue which also cinlcudes HEC ranking info

  773. AQEEL says:
    September 30th, 2009 2:38 pm

    salam

    Will you plz let me know that what is the rating of B.Z.U Multan? Speacially the rating of IMS BZU Multan.

    Regards

  774. suhana says:
    October 1st, 2009 1:40 pm

    it is nice 2 c the ranking but can u tell me the rank of Virual University

  775. faraz says:
    October 1st, 2009 5:13 pm

    i am student of NUML.. NUML IS THE BEST UNIVERSITY IN THE WORLD., NUML STUDENTS HAVE THE HIGHEST POTENCIAL TO DO THE BEST IN ANY ORGANIZATION..
    I AM PROUD TO BE THE STUDENTS OF NUML..
    NUML IS THE EXTRA EXCELLENT UNIVERSITY IN PAKISTAN AND WILL SOON BE IN WORLD..INSHALLAH

  776. mehr ali says:
    October 4th, 2009 1:21 am

    iam student of FUUAST ( Fedral Urdu University of arts science and tecnology isbd). recently its Eleectrical Engineering department has tooped in all pakistan annual project competetion..still its not include in hec ranking…i think hec autorities must consider students skills and telent before put into rankings itsnot just all about faculty or numbr of students.. prout to be a student of FUUAST Isbd. gudluck.

  777. KHURAM says:
    October 4th, 2009 2:32 pm

    i am shocked to see that comsats is not even in first six top universities of engineering it shouldbe at 6th ranking overall .
    it has great potential and hifi labs as compare to uet’s and mehran wehran (Ansar Fayaz & Eng.r Khuram Shazad)

  778. October 5th, 2009 2:41 am

    You can get a more detailed list of all scholarship opportunities on this website http://www.pkstudent.com/category/scholarships-in-pakistan/

  779. waqar says:
    October 5th, 2009 6:10 am

    iiu iz best uni of islamic study

  780. October 6th, 2009 9:36 am

    i think SSUET (Sir Syed University of Engg. & Tech.) Karachi should be among the top 5 Engg.Universities of Pakistan, as it produces the engineers who are the quite master in their respective fields, despite it has extremly limited funds, being the most economical engineering institute in the private sector in Pakistan.
    also that SSUET is proud to b the pioneer of the Bio-Medical Engineering in the country.
    most of the students continue here on merit scholarships.

    SSUETians enjoy a prestigious demand in the Gulf.

  781. October 6th, 2009 2:06 pm

    i am a student of comsats abbttabad ciit is the best institue of pakistan

  782. shaam says:
    October 7th, 2009 1:31 am

    Assalam o Alaikum
    in my point of view, i think all the universities are good enough to be no. 1. cos… its all responsibility depends students shoulders to make some unviersity no 1. if u have gts..n keen to learn knowledge then each n every university is best…
    so keep studuyng 1st of all ur self, ur family n all of the most for our country..
    thanks
    shaam779@gmail.com

  783. Atif Hafeez says:
    October 9th, 2009 12:15 am

    Hi

    I think best university i have ever seen is UAAR(University of Arid Agriculture Rawalpindi). There faculty and academic facilities are brilliant. Not also agriculture but there management sciences and IT departments are generating very good material for the industry.

    Atif Hafeez

  784. UMAR says:
    October 10th, 2009 12:22 am

    hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

    I am Giki’s Mechanical Engineer……………

    Giki iz BeSt…….u already know!

  785. haris says:
    October 10th, 2009 3:10 pm

    in my point of u parhai mey kuch nai rakha becuz parhai kar k un logo ko job mil rai hai jin k bap dada mpa yah minsiter hai u know what am saying so study is not better then parhai hahaha

  786. muhammad usman says:
    October 14th, 2009 1:25 am

    Agar pakisataniyo (esp political ppl) nay ab apnay aap ko nahin sambala to phir bohot dair ho jayay gi.you can say pakistan is on the verge of destruction. pakistan ko development ki bohot zaroorat hai infact change honay ki bohot zaroorat hai. aur agar aisay hi talent disheart ho kay bahar chalta raha to believe me aik din pakistan khatam ho jayay ga. yahan par ab bi logon kay khayalaat nahin badlay(esp politicians ). yeh log infiradi soch rakhtay hai, aur ijtimaai soch ko nazar andaz kertay hai. laikin yah beywakoof log yeh nahin dekhtay kay is may ultimately un ka b equally nuksaan ho raha hai, kyun kay society , country , community logon say banta hai agar aap us may dil say contribute nahin kartay to ultimately aap country kharab ker rahay hai, aur chunkay aap aur aap ki family b country ka hissa ha to lihaza aap aur aap ki family ko b nuksaan hoga.aur agar yah politicians sochtay hai kay bahar settle ho jay angay to yeh unki soch hai they would not be happy kyun kay apni mitti apni hoti hai.
    aik example dena chahunga “AGAR BUS A DRIVER SO RAHA HO TO ACCIDENT HO JATA HAI. AUR ACCIDENT HONAY KAY BAAD LOGO TO MARTAY HI HAI LAIKIN DRIVER AUR CONDUCTOR BI UN MAY SHAMIL HOTA HAI”. bohot recent,real world examples bi hai Komon aur unkay leaders kay sath jo hua wo aap kay samnay hai. baki aap log samaj daar hai samaj sakhtay hai.

  787. Mehran says:
    October 19th, 2009 3:42 am

    mehtran is best than ned lolz

  788. soha says:
    October 20th, 2009 4:22 am

    hiiiiiiiii
    me soha khan
    mery khyal mn sb universities achi hn coz uni hi hmain yeh mooqa dati hy k hm yahan a k further study krain r uni kisi bhi uni ki qeemat tu ap un logon sy poochain jo ability hony k bawajood further study nahi kr sakty coz un k area mn uni nahi hoti r out of city ja k un k liay affordable nahi hota
    thanks

  789. Armaghan says:
    October 20th, 2009 9:17 am

    Dear Friends…

    Bahria University is among The Most prestigeous University for Business Management Studies in Pakistan.

    N one thing is for sure. The Facilities Bahria University Islamabad is providing, are not available in any of the Universities in Pakistan. Bahria is the most Modern n Most facilitating University! U can’t find something better then this in world.. Except re-creational facilities like pool table etc. But Yes, Bahria God it’s Gymnasium right next to it!

  790. Afaq says:
    October 21st, 2009 12:16 am

    I Think Institute of Business and Technology (BIZTEK) should also added in a top 10 ranking of Pakistan.

  791. numan raza butt says:
    October 22nd, 2009 1:44 am

    assalam. I think UET Lahore is the best place of knowledge and education throughout the Pakistan. Proud to be a UETIAN.

  792. zeshan haider says:
    October 23rd, 2009 4:40 am

    agr prhna ha wo b univrsty mai to comsats sy best koi nai ho skta ku h comsats pahata nai ap ko har hasab sy tyar krta ha k ap apny future ko kasy save krskty ho so Inshort “”"”COMSATS IS BEST INSTRITUTE OF WORLD NOT PAKISTAN”"”

  793. rizwan says:
    October 23rd, 2009 7:20 am

    i think NED should be on top of 3 engineering universities

  794. Sehr Ahmed says:
    October 26th, 2009 3:36 am

    I think IBM rating should be considered again bcz if ur looking at the faculty and facilities, than SZABIST & IQRA have same teachers teaching at IBM. Similary, if u look at facilities than IBM have much much much better facilities than IQRA & SZABIST (this is what their students even say).

  795. waseem khaliq says:
    October 28th, 2009 7:00 am

    comsat institute is emerging institute for management while you did not take this institute for your ranking they have big campuses with lot of facilities

  796. Ali says:
    October 30th, 2009 2:29 pm

    Guyz tell about the reputation or maket demand of COMSATS university in the field of engineering…..howz itz going?

  797. naveed khan says:
    October 30th, 2009 3:40 pm

    i think IBA should be on first and i m not agree wat she said IBM has better facilities than IQRA & SZAIBIST.i think IQRA much better than IBM and SZAIBIST is better than both in all so IQRA’S rating is rite.thanx

  798. Awais Saeed says:
    October 30th, 2009 4:39 pm

    I got shocked when I didn’t find Pakistan’s second & Sindh’s first oldest university in the list. USindh (Sindh University, Jamshoro) is one of the best universities of Asia, & there isn’t any doubt in that. May be favouritism still survives in the hearts of this nation.

  799. Umair Nawaz says:
    October 31st, 2009 2:18 am

    plz tell me about the scope and different field of chemistry as I am the student of undergraduate.

  800. Mansoor Bhanbhro says:
    October 31st, 2009 1:36 pm

    i will not feel shamed that our studentz of Mehran University of eng: & tech: jamshoro are very very talented but some our polititionz create unwanted political atmosphere through the senior employz of university …. i think Mehranianz are better than otherz eng: uni. studentz

  801. Shahid Ali Khan says:
    November 2nd, 2009 1:03 am

    University of Peshawar z ranked 4th in general category which z ofcourse the greatest achievement of Frontier.az a student of Buisness Administration i l request the management deptt: of UOP to plz improve thier studies & make IM studies the leading Institute

  802. Talha says:
    November 2nd, 2009 2:22 am

    UET is the best having cream of Pakistan……..

  803. Omer says:
    November 12th, 2009 1:14 am

    Some universities are missing from ranking espacially in balochista.

  804. waqas ahmad says:
    November 12th, 2009 6:21 am

    international islamic university is one of the best university in all over the world.

  805. fakhar ul islam says:
    November 13th, 2009 1:42 am

    iiui the best university of the world

  806. m bilal rasheed says:
    November 13th, 2009 8:19 am

    international islamic university is one of the world’s most prominent university,but we are shocked to see this ranking of universities in which most of the famous universities are missing especially iiui.This university is providing education to students of 56 countries and the its facilitating the students with the demands of the modern era.It is suggested to you people to enlist international university in this ranking otherwise it would be very shocking for the people related to it .thnksssssssssss

  807. sarmad ali says:
    November 14th, 2009 1:37 am

    salam im sarmad, iam studying in paf-kiet karachi. plz tell me the market value of this institute and ranking in pakistan.

  808. azeem toi says:
    November 16th, 2009 1:24 pm

    i am student of ciit abbottabad, and i find it really good.
    Full equiped labs and best faculity, i think a good univeristy needs punctual and hard working faculity and a good environment for study and you will find it all in ciit abbottabad.

  809. Tauseef says:
    November 18th, 2009 5:15 am

    HEC need to check this list because there is no name of NED University in engineering and the rank of NED on list of HEC is also abslitlyy wrong bcause NED is NED n HEC should check out the ranking.

  810. Farhad says:
    November 24th, 2009 2:23 am

    i think its unfair ranking in think in Management sciences the Internationla Islamic university shuld be placed on the number 3 after Q U and lums

  811. FARRUKH says:
    November 26th, 2009 4:51 am

    itz unfair ranking

  812. Sanaullah Baloch says:
    November 26th, 2009 6:04 am

    Dear All,

    Following are punjab universities in punjab , a university at almost 100km in each direction, but we are here in Gwadar doent have one in 700 km in each direction

    Bahaudin University Multan
    Sahiwalcampus(BU)
    Multan Campus (BU)
    DGKhan Campus(BU)

    Univeristy of Sargodha

    Punjab University
    Gujranawala(PU)

    Univeristy of Gujrat
    Univeristy of Wah

    Islamia University Bahawalpur
    Bahalwalnagar(IU)
    Rahim Yar Khan(IU)

    Engineering Universities.
    UET Lahore
    UET KalaShah Kaku
    UET Faisalabad
    UET Taxila
    UET Taxila(Chakwal)

  813. November 27th, 2009 12:08 pm

    sir, tell me the best private section universities for BBA(Hon) Near Sialkot.

  814. Danyal khan says:
    November 30th, 2009 9:18 am

    Sir, can you please tell me that which unversity is better IET multan or IEFR faisalabad…? Plz answere as early as possible

  815. December 1st, 2009 6:09 am

    grate university rankings should be seen in a different perspective too. Campaigns in these universities should be run to finish extremism from the country. This is the youth that will get into high job post tomorrow so we realize that they can make the difference. The voice of these people should be raised so that space is given to modern liberal views which will in turn attract investors from all over the world and will grow Pakistan as a nation.

  816. Hira Mir says:
    December 2nd, 2009 7:00 am

    A latest suvey shows that 75% of LUMS graduates that is probably the best business University are still jobless. The economy is so bad. The industry wheel is not rotating. The main reason behind this is the element of extremism. A voice must be raised by US the youth to fight extremism otherwise this situation can get worst then this.

  817. December 2nd, 2009 7:01 am

    grauduated invest millions in taking high quality studies. When they get out of universities they go jobless just beause of the current situation. I believe the media needs to take notice of this and show this all around. The same Univeristies should plan some rally or campaign in which the purpose if to eliminate terrorism from Pakistan.

  818. December 3rd, 2009 6:37 am

    grauduated invest millions in taking high quality studies. When they get out of universities they go jobless just beause of the current situation. I believe the media needs to take notice of this and show this all around. The same Univeristies should plan some rally or campaign in which the purpose if to eliminate terrorism from Pakistan.

  819. Waqas says:
    December 4th, 2009 6:04 pm

    Hello i am the student of BZU doing MBA (Marketing) from Institute Of Management Sciences. i want to know about the value of degree that i recieve from that specific institute. Will it proves as helpfull in making the evaluation for my professional personality. According to HEC ranking there is not satisfactory place in the overall ranking. I am little bit confuse please help and guide me thanks.

  820. Gulzar Hussain says:
    December 8th, 2009 2:09 am

    I want to take admission in march 2010 plz hekp me in their test shadule

  821. shah says:
    December 9th, 2009 2:24 pm

    hi for ur kind information preston university is now counted in w category university which is annouced from hec govt… u can check hec w category universities…u will found the name of preston university….preston is now one of the biggest private institute for business studies which have 7 campuses over the country …and charted by sindh and NWFP..

  822. kashif Gujjar says:
    December 12th, 2009 3:56 am

    Hira,
    You are right , you are living in a country whose democratic parliment has Absconder, Murderer,Looter, Traitors parlimantarian, one of constitutional outcome of parliment is that politicans are not accountable for anything, Militiary accountable is already obvious, prvoinces depriviation is obvious from Sana Baloch comments, In this national crisis, Youth could play a vitol role.

  823. syed Rehmat shah says:
    December 12th, 2009 5:10 am

    hi dear iam strudent of preston university kohat campus which is recognize from HEC … u can check it… and also w category university…its education is so good….but i dont know why people give negative views about preston university….my 3 cosins are done BBA and MBA from preston university…. now they all are on good jobs in foriegn and in pakistan….their sallaries are above than 60 thousand….

  824. Muhammad shah says:
    December 20th, 2009 7:30 am

    hi
    i m the student of fsc part 2 i m taking admission in 2010 means thus year plz keep me in mind when the test will be carry of engineering colleges plz i will be very thank ful 2 u………………….

  825. December 22nd, 2009 8:00 am

    its great, finally found it here, good job!!

  826. Hassan says:
    December 26th, 2009 7:06 am

    Nice.

  827. Dost MUHAMMAD says:
    January 7th, 2010 2:24 am

    Salam
    Dear There are two sides of Studies
    1)To get a degree for a job
    or
    2)To really get knowledge what,s happening inside field of your interest.

    PIEAS is basically a university of later catagory .
    You always get negative comments about PIEAS from 1st catagory students.
    So if you really want to get deep and emphasized knowledge about your field of interest PIEAS is the best place in all over PAKISTAN.And you will find it best too.
    And if your aim is to get degree only then you can get degree too from PIEAS but a little more effort then you need in other universities.

  828. January 7th, 2010 2:36 am

    What about Computer Sciences? IT is an up and coming field specially in these days of extreme digitization.

  829. Ramesh Kumar says:
    January 7th, 2010 9:05 am

    why NEDUET Karachi is not in ranking ? what is reason of it?

  830. Mike Koan says:
    January 9th, 2010 11:36 am

    This ranking is totally wrong.
    Dow university is number 1 health Sciences University.
    Dow university of Health Sciences has the most brilliant and top class students as compared to any other medical school in Pakistan.
    They have proven this all over the world. Only top students on the merit list can get into DUHSC.
    Dow students are ready to compete with any other college or university.
    Please change the ranking

  831. Muhammad shakir mir says:
    January 10th, 2010 11:44 pm

    Iam surpised to see the HEC ranking ,
    Virtual university is not in top listed ranking to pakistan,s univerity ,
    The mode of education at virtual university is most advance students of all regions in pakistan and abroad can get access to knowlwdge at there door step its a A class university which have braches in each and every part of pakistan region .

  832. mubin says:
    January 12th, 2010 2:57 am

    salam i m the student of BBA from VU. i wanna know that what is the importance of VU”S degree.

  833. Raza Ali says:
    January 12th, 2010 9:43 am

    people i study in Princeton University, New Jersey, America and i am a pakistani. i would like to tell you people that these rankings are pretty correct. Besides the IT ranking that is the computer studies is present and that NEDUET is not in the ranking because its not been producing much results lately though it may have done so in the past year s(no personal offense); so it makes a difference.

  834. shan ali says:
    January 13th, 2010 11:56 am

    MY FIRST PERIORTY GOES TO NED UNIVERSITY OF ENGINEERING & TECHNOLOGY…..

  835. faizan says:
    January 14th, 2010 4:10 pm

    i totally disagree with these rankings… i think iobm(cbm )should be at number 3 Coz… its market value is 2nd in karachi after IBA…
    I dont think that IQRA is that good … that it is put ahead… may be COZ of phd…
    iobm cums in LUMS club now…. so ibm and szabist both should come on 3rd… NUST should be 4th….
    lums>iba>iobm=szabist>NUST
    rest are …..

  836. ehsan khan says:
    January 18th, 2010 4:25 am

    according to world ranking the first uni of pakistan fall on rank 2384 of LUMS.while in pakistan ranking its not present. so its not a good ranking.

  837. annie says:
    January 18th, 2010 1:20 pm

    hey all
    wanted to ask u tht when do v need to apply to all these unis u guys are talking about? IN THE SUMMER VACATONS? tht is may/june? And when are their admission test?

    i ll b glad if someone ov u help me out
    Thanks.

  838. AWAI S KHAN says:
    January 18th, 2010 10:45 pm

    i love NED university. it’s mine all time favourite

  839. Bilal Khan says:
    January 18th, 2010 10:53 pm

    Hey everybody’
    i think that the ranking should be change…coz every one knows that NED is bestest university of Pakistan nd it’s degree has much more value other than.so it desirve 3rd rank.

  840. ayaz says:
    January 20th, 2010 1:15 am

    where the hell is ned university in the ranking its the most prestigous university of karachi ;the biggest earning centre of the country

  841. rizwan says:
    January 20th, 2010 3:45 am

    Buitems is the best university of I.T and Engineering in Pakistan.

  842. sohail says:
    January 30th, 2010 4:07 am

    Where is the name of Allama Iqbal Open University Islamabad

  843. FAISAL says:
    February 1st, 2010 4:28 pm

    i think rankings should also bear the factor of market value…iobm karachi is ranked 6th but according to market value its after iba… as most of the iba students have attitude problems so iobm students are hired and they work even better… szabist on other hand is also one of the best but according 2 me the ranking shud be..
    lums
    iba
    iobm
    szabist
    nust
    lse
    iqra

    Alfaisal business school(no.1 in future)

  844. asif says:
    February 8th, 2010 8:35 am

    This ranking is very misleading as it was formulated a very long time ago; here is an extract from the ranking page itself: ” should not completely rely on the ranking list as being definitive”

    In short this may just have been a necessity of the time or just a gimmick, it does NOT include universities chartered after 2001. Some of which are now serving as a backbone of academia and young scholars. Such as UCP, UMT and one that has interested me more so HU- because of the free study abroad options for students and research opportunities, and the amazing website http://www.hajveryuniversity.com

  845. muzamil hussain says:
    February 8th, 2010 1:10 pm

    farhan sahab don’t think so, it is not better to compare UET Mehan with NED. yet it is your wrong thinking that NED is anyway better than Mehran. Don’t be emotional,!

  846. GHULAM HUSSAI NASEER says:
    February 11th, 2010 12:20 am

    our university (THE UNIVERSITY OF FAISALABAD ) faculty of engineering &techonology is also ranked among the top universities of the pakistan. so dont forget it inshallah we’ll prove that

  847. farhan says:
    February 14th, 2010 9:54 am

    where does fast stands ?

  848. Eid says:
    February 14th, 2010 11:39 am

    COMSATS Institute of Information technology is not mentioned in this list.
    This is Highly recommended that the authorities have to take care of the True ranking!

  849. Muneer khan Marwat says:
    February 15th, 2010 2:25 am

    Institute of managment studies of university of peshawar should also be included in top ranks.

  850. MUHAMMAD JAMIL says:
    February 18th, 2010 12:44 pm

    hi,
    im assosiate enginier.recently i complete my deploma in SWEDISH PAKISTAN INSTITUDE OF TECHNOLOGY GUJRAT PAKISTAN.this iz my contact number 03137871809.

  851. hamid says:
    February 19th, 2010 5:06 am

    y not bahria university is in this ranking

  852. Muhammad Farhan Ahmed says:
    February 21st, 2010 3:28 pm

    Comsats Institute of Information technology should also be included in Top General universities

  853. yahya malik says:
    February 22nd, 2010 12:00 pm

    hi ,i m doing electronics engg from comsats institute of information technology,it is the best university i have ever seen in pakistan,because its faculty is highly qualified,and i want and request that u should also place comsats in top 5 rankings of enginnering universities

  854. imran khattak says:
    February 23rd, 2010 5:08 pm

    i studying in comsats .it has highly qualified faculties.so i think that it best university of the country.

  855. Asad Durrani says:
    February 26th, 2010 6:27 pm

    rankings are done by cheap magazines and universities cant be compared. Each and every uni has got its own culture and its best according to that. So dont look into rankings and concentrate on the degree

  856. Saif says:
    February 27th, 2010 6:08 pm

    Is Preston University perhaps registered as a company in Pakistan ? If yes Preston University can technically claim to be “registered”, I guess ?

    The best details of Preston University Wyoming and then California are at
    http://www.cheyenneherald.com/_pdf/April%202009/Preston%27s%20new%20location%20in%20LA%20-%203.pdf

  857. irfan says:
    February 28th, 2010 1:18 pm

    where is dawood college of engineering and technology karachi?

  858. saif ullah says:
    February 28th, 2010 1:23 pm

    yar dcet ko to is ranking me top hona chaiye tha lekin us ka nam o nishan hi nahi had hoti hai yar na insafi ki

  859. zardari says:
    February 28th, 2010 1:28 pm

    chahy kissi bhi university me parho job k liye to sb ko paowa hi chahiye

  860. Shery says:
    February 28th, 2010 10:07 pm

    Dawood college kahan hay
    wo bhi to H.E.C aur pakistan engineering council sy affilited hy?

  861. Masood Khan says:
    March 1st, 2010 11:47 pm

    would you please tell me about all the top ranking universiteies related to medical or health sciences in pakistan ???

  862. muhammad biland says:
    March 2nd, 2010 9:00 am

    where is IIUI..?????

  863. BURKI says:
    March 4th, 2010 6:43 am

    All univercities in pakistan are third class

  864. umar says:
    March 4th, 2010 12:57 pm

    wat i think is that giki’s reputation has been deteriorated because of there faculty , except mechanical, electrical and electronics

  865. junaid says:
    March 6th, 2010 3:37 am

    punjab uni. is one of best them

  866. March 6th, 2010 1:59 pm

    Hi!
    we are student of 3rd prof DVM SAU Tandojam.
    we have started a programme relating to the rehibilitation of Animal also caring and medication of them on our own under the supervission of our respected Prof.Dr.A.B.Kachiwal Memon(surgeon).
    sir,we r telling you that we have started this programme and we want morally and financial support from the HEC,so we become courgeous rather then being discourge.
    Thanking you in anticipation.

  867. SAIM says:
    March 8th, 2010 6:08 am

    PLZ TELL RANKING OF UMT IN ENGRRNERING

  868. sadam mangrio says:
    March 10th, 2010 7:06 am

    wht the rank of dawood college of engineering and technology?

  869. filza bajwa says:
    March 13th, 2010 2:35 pm

    hello sir,i m filza bajwa from university of karachi..i m doing bs.in international relations and its my very first year there..i have seen the rankings you people have displayed for the universities..i m a bit shocked to see karachi university at the number 3rd..wot i hav observed,there’s a huge demand of ku graduates and its ofcourse offering the highest number of courses as compare to punjab university,students from abroad come to study here..its having the finest quality of professors..environment is really pleasant..so,i just reqest u 2 maintain its bar higher and higher..kindly look up to my request..thanking you.!

  870. Faisal Aman says:
    March 19th, 2010 3:38 am

    What is Comsats ranking in buisiness and it?

  871. hina says:
    March 19th, 2010 9:04 am

    hello every body i am Hina from arid agriculture university Rawalpindi doing BSCS , and want to say that we students can change the future of the whole nation .its my message to all students that please be united for the sake of yours country and religion

  872. ayaz ali khowaja says:
    March 23rd, 2010 12:02 pm

    i am the student of mehran university (muet) jamshoro and proud of it…………………………………………………………….

  873. umair fida says:
    March 29th, 2010 1:36 pm

    well! i dont know the logic behind this ranking because ………….my uni quaid-e-awam university of engineering science and technology is better than jamshoro uni. our civil dep. is fully equipped ……..with modern lab equipments and our civil faculty is very good than jamshoro uni………..thanks

  874. mubasher ghafoor butt says:
    March 29th, 2010 1:56 pm

    sallam 2 every 1 . . . . i m a student of quaid e awam university of engineering science and tech nawabshah.As i was looking at the ranking of universities the name of my university was not there at any number and it was a sad feeling for me.i think that in the ranking of universities all universities should be considered.And ranking should be done from a proper procedure which should consider all factors and not by just considering there past reputation and quantity of labs teachers and students.i think a proper competition between the students of different institutions should also be held because students make the institutions

  875. Virus says:
    March 30th, 2010 11:23 am
  876. Owais Mughal says:
    March 30th, 2010 11:42 am

    The link to HEC rankings in the post corrected today

  877. Muhammad A. Nazir says:
    March 30th, 2010 6:18 pm

    Aslaam-O-Alaikum!
    I think the HEC and esp. Br. Owais Moghul has totally failed to set up a criteria based on merit and talent of the Alumni.
    Otherwise some top ranking universities like KEMU (www.kemu.edu.pk/) must have not been missed.
    Here is a website for criteria:
    http://www.arwu.org/FieldMED2009.jsp

    Please give some second thought to the above rankings & adjust.
    Jazak Allahu Khairan.
    -MN

  878. abbas says:
    April 1st, 2010 4:04 am

    I think National University of Sciences & Technology Rawalpindi (NUST) is topper in Engineering because it is ranked in 350 in all over the world.

  879. muhammad says:
    April 3rd, 2010 10:31 am

    i want to say that is preston university have value in the univerities of pakistan or not sent to my email tell me your opinon rafi_zaizullah@yahoo.com ok please

  880. Airian says:
    April 6th, 2010 4:55 am

    Air University, Islamabad should be included in the top 5 universities (Engineering Department).

  881. April 6th, 2010 9:57 am

    Urdu University Should be include top 5 universities
    And visit the Islamabad Campus
    (Engineering Department)

  882. April 7th, 2010 9:00 am

    iam student of IQRA UNIVERSITY karachi.. i want to comment about my university … IQRA is the most ridiculous university in pakistan it’s management is rude teachers dont give attention to students no one will give u response …. in last i would like to say that IU runs only for money not for anyother things teacher will not give u marks which u deserve they will fail u…. PLZ Dont take admission in IQRA university…. IU must listed in last not in 4th ranking… if u dont believe me than ask students of IU they will tell u everything… FACT: 80 percent students left IQRA university after first semester…THAT is fact…..

  883. lubna javaid says:
    April 8th, 2010 5:14 am

    i m the student of international Islamic university doind electronic engineering. wana say this that we r doing good here in our faculty working hard to make our degree strong nd to learn how things work through engineering point of view but the problem is ths now a days in every university expenses are kissing the sky that a normal student belongs to a poor family cant even think of studying after inter our government should feel his responsibilities. nd 2nd thing is tht we shud provide oppertunities to our educated persons in order to make them feel comfortable in serving their own nation nd country.i wana request HEC to take steps in this repect …… thank you

  884. yasir says:
    April 9th, 2010 4:14 am

    this is yasir from international islamic university…
    electronics engineering department….. i dnt who are the responsible of this wrong ranking of universities…
    IIUI is competing many of the university…especiallly electronics department…..they have gotten prizes from comsat,uet lahore,GIK, even last year in NERC they have gotten 1st runner up awad from NUST…PEC also visit our universty and they appericiatd the our senior project…why dnt our uni came into the top 5 of pakistan…

  885. M SAjiD KhaN says:
    April 10th, 2010 9:21 am

    NUST – National University of Science & Technology is the Top University in Pakistan……

  886. Shoaib Muneer says:
    April 19th, 2010 7:55 am

    I have passed my B-Tech (Electrical) from Indus Insitiute Karachi,& needs to register at Pakistan Engineering consul.
    kindly explain procedure?
    thanks

  887. April 19th, 2010 1:55 pm

    yes, fc college university has improved its standard in a time which is impossible for any other institute in pakistan..by the way in what context the standard of an institution is being watched. by seeing the above institutions i guess the ranking is given after every two decades where such institutions are emerging, those are not being considered.

  888. Muhammad Shoaib says:
    April 21st, 2010 3:40 pm

    i am a student of iiui department of computer science as we have a very good department and our university is on second number in islamabad which comes after quaid-e-azam univesity so why it is very down in hec ranking in CS and IT

  889. Swabiwal says:
    April 23rd, 2010 9:23 pm

    Thanks Owais, This is a guide for every student out there who is going to enter a university and doesn’t know yet which one is best for him/her.

  890. May 3rd, 2010 3:38 pm

    IN MEHRAN UNIVERSITY OF ENGINEERING AND TECHNOLOGY AND IN LIAQUAT MEDICAL UNIVERSITY , IF THERE WILL NO COTA SYSTEM IN THEM THEN I FEEL THEY WILL BE THE FIRST UNIVERSITIES OF PAKISTAN.
    GUARENTEED.

    WHAT IS PIEAS AND AGHA KHAN. HUH

  891. Azhar says:
    May 7th, 2010 11:20 pm

    Being an alumini, wish to see UET Lahore at the top. For me its not only the no of students graduating, grades, covered area, plothara of labs, no of campuses, discipline, weight of faculty/students to account for but, naturally biased, there are other important factors too like the statistics of the age of institution, general campus life, the self generated/organized extracurricular activities, canteen activities, attending university in self-study days, hilarity, life in hostles/dinings, sports, student bodies’ activities, the free student-faculty interaction etc, etc ….

  892. May 10th, 2010 11:53 pm

    where is Sukkur institute of Business administration, sukkur
    this is the top institute in Business and IT in upper sindh
    it is also upper than MUET QUEST and NED
    this is the best institution.

  893. sam says:
    May 12th, 2010 1:37 pm

    where do islamic international university stands in the ranking??

  894. Rashid says:
    May 15th, 2010 11:40 pm

    AOA,

    My dear sir i want to say that where the F C College University fall in the Pakistan university ranking…….

  895. akbar says:
    May 19th, 2010 3:10 am

    Aga Khan University is the top University in health science in my view.plz try to admited ur children in this university.it main tain marit

  896. safa says:
    May 21st, 2010 2:58 pm

    haha there is no cota system in the universities you’ve mentioned because there is no such thing as a cota. its quota. and shouldnt there be a listing of universities in general? coz lums isnt just a business uni its social sciences department is just as strong. so what about that?

  897. s says:
    May 26th, 2010 11:03 pm

    Are you kidding me? Dow Medical College, now University sweeps up the most competitive students after Inter/ A level after Aga Khan in Karachi. And King Edward Medical College as well. I wonder the people who made this list this even know about how to set up standards in medical colleges. From my experience in medical school: the best informed people on how to progress in your carreer/standard of medical schools are the students themselves. Not our ‘senior doctors’ regardless of their experience/job titles.

  898. Hasan Mir says:
    June 1st, 2010 1:18 pm

    Owais,

    Do you have a detailed listing of colleges/universities under the IT/Business section? I see that you have posted just 6 institutions – if you do have a more detailed list, can you please post that as well?

    Mir.

  899. Shahid says:
    June 1st, 2010 9:47 pm

    I don’t see institutions such as King Edward Medical college. Isn’t that a top med-school in Pakistan?

  900. ahsan says:
    June 2nd, 2010 7:04 am

    salam,
    i think dcet is one of the best engineering college in pakistan it has lot of extra student and inshallah we will be in the top 10 ranking with in 2 to 3 years.

  901. Aroosa says:
    June 2nd, 2010 9:54 am

    yes NUST is the best university of pakistan.

  902. dr.amjad waseer says:
    June 3rd, 2010 4:40 pm

    salam,
    agriculture university of faisal abad is the top class university of pakistan.

  903. sohaib nazir says:
    June 4th, 2010 4:20 am

    sargodha university is the best university of world

  904. Ijaz - Ul - Abedin says:
    June 4th, 2010 5:22 pm

    YES,
    MY PAKISTANI PEOPLE ” THE ONE AND ONLY UNIVERSITY LAHORE UNIVERSITY OF MANAGEMENT AND SCIENCE ( LUMS ) ” IS THE TOP UNIVERSITY IN PAKITAN. AND THE SECOND ONE I SAY IS G.C.U

  905. Faraz says:
    June 9th, 2010 9:06 am

    I can see that who ever is lucky enough to be in any Uni of Pakistan starts to believe that he is in the best Uni of the country, and some even do not hesitate to go on and claim that their Uni is the best in the whole wide world.

    There is no doubt that Pakistan’s Medical College’s are most hard to get in to. Engineering Universities come after that. I have seen that private unis whether medical or engineering or otherwise are relatively easier to get in to. But then again its just my observation. I think this mushroom growth of government Unis is not a healthy thing for the academic sector. Specially as an Engineer and an Engineering academic I see that the quality of the Engineering professionals is deteriorating as more and more technical colleges have updated their diplomas to Engineering degrees, this is just wrong and highly detrimental to the integrity of the Engineering profession in the country.

  906. afaq says:
    June 10th, 2010 3:48 am

    slam i wanna join a collage

  907. s says:
    June 11th, 2010 11:48 pm

    I agree that the standard of institute are not what is should be but I feel pretty let down, you work so hard to get into the ‘best’ institute that the city, (Karachi) in my case , offers and then to make a list and not mention it at all. Like other grad of Dow, I can speak volumes of what is wrong: but it comes down to basics: no money to invest in the college, too many students in a class, teaching environment is very controlled, the best professors take too little class , and people are hung up on their titles that they carry. Good teachers however always shine!
    After getting trained abroad, my teachers here with ‘titles’ are humble , approachable and most importantly very knowledgeable who are keen to impart their knowledge and appreciate an individuals hard work.
    Also, there is a strong feed back system, if a teacher has not taught / doesn’t know enough: every student get a chance to give feedback …excellent check and balance system. You just have to keep yourself updated.
    We should have healthy competitiveness regarding academics amongst universities to help us improve and grow. And no politics in academic institutes.
    Case report, research, writing articles are all unheard of! They (dow) has the best lot but during my time didn’t know what to do with its students!

  908. s says:
    June 11th, 2010 11:59 pm

    Also,
    I do think more than 10 yrs down the lane, I would like to pay tribute to N.E.D students who made solar car on their own, using their skill in those years when no one was talking about solar energy.
    Never heard anything ‘solar’ made after that…sad..

  909. Imran Hussain says:
    June 16th, 2010 5:02 pm

    Faisal K. Qureshi has a fake BA degree from Karachi University.

  910. zaka says:
    June 27th, 2010 12:19 pm

    it is pretty good to see NED on number 10.i personally visited two times NED in past,in short i am not satisfied from their courses and final year projects.

  911. abbas says:
    June 28th, 2010 3:01 pm

    university of munawwar-ul-islam

  912. smartbrains says:
    June 30th, 2010 7:30 am

    According to me this article is boring I am not satisfied this statement. I can see that who ever is lucky enough to be in any Univercity of Pakistan starts to believe that he is in the best Univercity of the country, and some even do not hesitate to go on and claim that their Univercity is the best in the whole wide world.
    http://supportfortechnology.com
    Support for Technology

  913. Bilal Ahmed says:
    July 1st, 2010 4:48 am

    PIEAS DESERVE TO BE ON THE 1ST SPOT.
    1 QUESTION IS THAT WHICH INSTITUTE N pAKISTAN DOING IST(SPACE TECHNOLOGY)

  914. Kashif Khan says:
    July 5th, 2010 2:21 am

    By providing the shameful ranking of Pakistani Universities, HEC has lost its credibility. Its funny that a funding authority to universities is ranking. The ranking body shall be independent. Shame on HEC

  915. Anique says:
    July 10th, 2010 4:38 pm

    there is no ranking position about neduet and ssuet,

  916. July 14th, 2010 12:53 pm

    Can u issue rankings of medical colleges of Pakistan.

  917. Adil Shahid says:
    July 15th, 2010 1:40 pm

    India is developing 20 world class universities, which makes India a knowledge house in South Asia. I would like to ask HEC that what the hell HEC is doing for Pakistan’s educational future. As our Govt. reduces educational budget up to 50%.

  918. Usman says:
    July 16th, 2010 6:00 pm

    What about CASE uni

  919. Bilal says:
    July 16th, 2010 6:14 pm

    This i believe is first BSc EE bach from PIEAS. I have a few Q can any one please help
    1. How are the studies and professers and facilities
    2. Do they bound u to serve in Atomic Energy? If i pay for the course, am i still bound?
    I only want to join atomic energy to work on PLASMA and methods to disable all nukes of the planet. I really don’t want to get bound as many of courses are offered outside PAK.

  920. Ahasn Mahmood says:
    July 19th, 2010 3:14 am

    We have behind if we compare our education

  921. saif ullah says:
    July 23rd, 2010 11:59 am

    kiya universuty pec s aenda 2 year m manzoor ho jy gi plz tell me soon

  922. samia says:
    July 30th, 2010 6:21 am

    what about islamic international university in islamabad

  923. August 5th, 2010 8:02 am

    711

  924. shafeeq says:
    August 5th, 2010 9:08 am

    please provide an educational ranking of universities of Pakistan and what is number of university of sargodha in ranking.

  925. Shafaque says:
    August 6th, 2010 1:25 am

    Salam,
    the only thing i would like to highlight in your above ranking is that you should have classified Business and IT Universities Seperately. Also National University Of Computer And Emerging Science is one of the highly ranked university of IT industry and you havent mentioned its name.

    ThankYou

  926. xena says:
    August 7th, 2010 5:14 pm

    wat abt COMSATS Abbottabad?

  927. August 7th, 2010 5:59 pm

    assalamuaikum
    what is the ranking of (U.E.T) Peshawar & Agriculture University of Peshawar
    please inform me

  928. August 8th, 2010 6:42 am

    what about the g.c university Faisalabad??

  929. Muneeb Rehman says:
    August 9th, 2010 11:56 am

    is Foundation university islamabad better than Numl islmabad.

  930. Nedian says:
    August 11th, 2010 6:20 am

    Salam
    I think the rankings are done on considering many things.
    N.E.D no doubt is a great university but you should agree with that.
    The score of N.E.D by HEC is about 18.65 which is quite low considering top university is 61.35 which is quite high.
    Inshallah we will going to achieve that and not only that but also achieve something bigger than that.
    Thanks
    Allah Hafiz

  931. Inam Khowaja says:
    August 16th, 2010 8:27 pm

    Nmul hyd campus and Sindh university jamshoro are the best in the world…..

  932. August 17th, 2010 2:55 am

    Good 1, thanks for such a useful list of uni’s.

  933. ِعا بد صد يقى says:
    August 19th, 2010 6:46 am

    I dont think so it is correct callibration……

  934. AMMAR says:
    August 25th, 2010 12:03 pm

    thanks alot !

  935. sophia says:
    September 14th, 2010 10:47 am

    can i know which universities are offering project management and event management?

  936. jocation says:
    October 1st, 2010 9:42 am

    Please visit http://www.jocation.com for the complete list of courses being offered by all 127 HEC recognized universities in Pakistan. We have over 3000 courses with complete course description and contact detail of each course and also we have compiled list of universities with their brief history , faculties and facilities and Resources. For a complete list of Universities please have a look at
    http://www.jocation.com/institution_list.php

  937. mohsin says:
    October 9th, 2010 11:31 am

    uet peshawar is not bad too……

  938. Qasim says:
    October 15th, 2010 4:26 am

    Are there updated rankings for subsequent years – how about 2009 or 2010(if it’s been released)?

  939. Ayaz khan wazir says:
    October 18th, 2010 2:33 pm

    what about kohat universty?
    ik bath batao, k kohat universty me jo electricle engineering department he, kia oska koi ranking he. Aya PEC is ko regesterd karega.
    Yar don’t mind, akhir KUST tho KUST he. Geo kustians. Geo aur dosroon ko B jene do. Salam to all KUSTIANS.
    Ayaz khan wazir(KUST).
    Email and at facebook,
    ayaz_khan899@yahoo.com

  940. Ayaz says:
    October 27th, 2010 9:38 am

    Please tell me the which rank of virtual university

  941. Quran Online says:
    November 5th, 2010 12:48 am

    well i think these universites really have standard like QAU ,NUST,AGha KHAN..well this ranking is free to politics and thats good…

  942. Alexander says:
    November 16th, 2010 1:35 pm

    yes obviously these universites are really have standard like QAU ,NUST,AGha KHAN..well this ranking is free to politics and thats good…and I think the rankings are done on considering many things.
    N.E.D no doubt is a great university but you should agree with that.Quran Tutors

    The score of N.E.D by HEC is about 18.65 which is quite low considering top university is 61.35 which is quite high.

  943. alexander rider says:
    November 16th, 2010 1:40 pm

    thanks for amazing posts

  944. November 25th, 2010 3:07 am

    salam,
    Gomal University Dera Ismail Khan established in 1977 is a good teaching instituition for learning and knowledge. But you have not given its ranking . Plz mention that too.

  945. kamal says:
    November 26th, 2010 5:28 am

    In fact a great information.

  946. fzi says:
    November 27th, 2010 10:09 am

    PAF kiet kahan hai

  947. December 2nd, 2010 11:31 pm

    Can I Know, Who Rank This?

  948. riaz says:
    December 10th, 2010 3:07 am

    its very informative…………………… thanks

  949. Sajid says:
    December 28th, 2010 12:32 am

    It is wrong…… Engineering Universities mein Karachi ki universities ka name nahi hai….. Aur PAF KIET ka name bhi nahi hai list mein.

  950. anwar says:
    January 2nd, 2011 12:32 pm

    sir syed university ka name kaha ha can you plz tell me about its rank in pakistan

  951. Call Pakistan says:
    January 2nd, 2011 5:48 pm

    What factors have been taken into account ?

  952. January 5th, 2011 5:42 pm

    Dow medical College and Sindh Medical college where there is very hard enough to get only the admissions and clear the papers is missing in your list .. not a good list at all.. please use the good resources before writing on any topic..
    Thanks :)

  953. WAJID ALI says:
    January 10th, 2011 5:12 pm

    WHAT IS THE RINK OF VIRTUAL UNVERSITY

  954. Furqan says:
    January 16th, 2011 1:01 pm

    Can you mention the available major departments within each university like… MBA, CS, PHYSICS, ANTHROPOLOGY Etc?

  955. Tanesh Kumar says:
    February 18th, 2011 12:52 pm

    please inform what is the ranking of COMSATS Lahore

  956. February 18th, 2011 3:18 pm

    It’s really glad to read about the following topic which has

    enhanced my knowledge regarding topic and plus has given

    alot of ideas which I can think on.
    So I would say thank you to the blog owner for providing

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  957. john says:
    March 2nd, 2011 8:53 am

    The best instituite of engineering in Pakistan is CASE.
    Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CASE,_Center_For_Advance_Studies_In_Engineering

  958. Tehreem says:
    April 10th, 2011 10:32 am

    its a good way of increasing competition between the very many universities. i havebeen a student of PU n hope to see it on the ranking of 1.
    will this ranking system be based on annual ranking system or alternately ?

  959. Sultan says:
    April 12th, 2011 6:28 pm

    Does anyone know if these have ever been updated?

  960. Haider says:
    April 21st, 2011 10:23 pm

    I think Pakistan needs a new ranking. And to be done with care and done regularly. Now that HEC is not there, maybe ATP and Prof Najam should set up a system for doing these. It will be good for the country.

  961. quranblog says:
    June 16th, 2011 6:31 am

    the ranking page it gives an error and goes on to like see your internet connection it is the hec site is it but why is it not opening

  962. Yasir Usman says:
    July 4th, 2011 7:40 pm

    sallam …
    i want to know that , is university of lahore is in HEC ranking list.

  963. hashim says:
    July 17th, 2011 2:20 pm

    i am from nust i think ranking is ok ….ned cant be compared to nust eme campus and giki …giki me and ee are among best in asia ….nust arenautical(cae) is among best in asia aswell….they are top institution…lums and giki are pride of pakistan remember giki came 3 in asia 1998 and lums came 6th…..nust having many campuses and producing 2700 above average engineering deserves to be 2nd nodoubt giki produces 200 best

  964. Ayesha says:
    August 12th, 2011 2:42 am

    have a go through his article…
    Unroofed and Uncovered toilets
    http://pakistanall.blogspot.com/2011/08/unroofed-and-uncovered-toilets_11.html

  965. August 14th, 2011 3:14 am

    Yes I also want to say That NED is far more better then some Other ranked universities, I am student of Computer Science in UBIT(Uok) It is also a cool place for IT.

  966. sana says:
    August 31st, 2011 11:53 am

    do read a detail article on Pakistani mangoes

    http://pakistanall.blogspot.com/2011/08/pakistani-mangoes.html

  967. somaniabdulmalik says:
    September 1st, 2011 9:33 pm

    Do you think that Karachi has volcano? and if any is it Korangi
    or is it Orangi hill? I need to know. One more thing, as we experiancing global warming, do you think that portion of karachi will submerge in near future?

  968. @tir says:
    October 5th, 2011 5:34 pm

    comsats is also best for computer sciences.

  969. October 14th, 2011 8:27 pm

    You can also look these rankings of HEC here

  970. October 16th, 2011 2:43 am

    oh really , its good, i like NCA and UET!

  971. Uth Game says:
    October 19th, 2011 10:48 pm

    A “How To..” headline grabs your prospect’s attention because it tells their brain they are about to learn something new that could benefit their lifestyle. The headline should get their attention and explain how to get their benefit faster, cheaper, easier, etc.

  972. munib says:
    November 1st, 2011 10:03 am
  973. Anonymous says:
    December 11th, 2011 3:06 pm

    Where is hajvery university?
    Its the best university of pakistan!
    HEC WAKE UP!:)

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