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Match Fixing Scandal: Pakistan Cricketers Set to Lose Test, Series, and Dignity

Posted on August 29, 2010
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With England already in a commanding lead in the Third Test match, Pakistan seems set to lose the game as well as the series to hosts England. But at least some of the Pakistan team may already have lost their dignity and any respect their fans had for them given the explosive allegations from mass-selling British tabloid News of the World. Although still allegations, the facts and the circumstances are piling up to a nasty indictment of a number of Pakistan players, including Captain Salman Butt, and Mohammad Asif, Mohammad Amir and Kamran Akmal.

Orchestrated by London-based fixed Mazhar Majeed, these players (and possibly others) seem to be embroiled in a match-fixing scandal, which will not only bring further heartbreak and shame to Pakistan cricket fans but also wreck whatever little dignity is left in a team that is in tatters in terms of performance and, if these allegations are true, in morals too.

Here are some essential details, according to a report at CricInfo:

The fourth Test between England and Pakistan at Lord’s is at the centre of a police investigation into spot-fixing, after a 35-year-old man was arrested after allegedly being caught offering to bribe Pakistan’s bowlers to bowl no-balls on demand.

According to a report in The News of the World, Mazher Majeed accepted £150,000 to arrange a fix involving Pakistan’s new-ball bowlers, Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif, whom he allegedly asked to bowl no-balls at specific moments of the match. The paper also alleges that the team captain, Salman Butt, and the wicketkeeper, Kamran Akmal, are involved, along with three other unnamed cricketers.

Cricinfo understands that the players named were questioned and were quizzed about sums of money found in the rooms, though it is thought that those were made up of the daily allowances players are given while on tour. The man arrested is believed to have contacts with the team though until now it was assumed he was acting as an agent for players, helping them secure sponsorship and kit contracts.

Officials from the ICC’s Anti-Corruption Unit are currently flying in from Dubai, and in a statement, the ICC confirmed that the allegations were being taken seriously. “The International Cricket Council, the England & Wales Cricket Board and the Pakistan Cricket Board have been informed by the Metropolitan Police that a 35-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to defraud bookmakers,” read the statement.

“The Metropolitan Police have informed the ICC, ECB and PCB that their investigations continue and ICC, ECB and PCB, with the involvement of the ICC Anti-Corruption and Security Unit, are fully assisting those enquiries. No players nor team officials have been arrested in relation to this incident and the fourth npower Test match will continue as scheduled on Sunday. As this is now subject to a police investigation neither ICC, ECB, PCB, nor the ground authority, the MCC, will make any further comment.” A Scotland Yard spokeman added: “Following information received from the News of the World we have today [Saturday, August 28] arrested a 35-year old man on suspicion of conspiracy to defraud bookmakers.”

A report in Pakistan’s Dawn newspaper confirms the same and quotes the Pakistan team manager Yawar Saeed telling the Associated Press: ‘I can confirm that we are aware of the allegations and Scotland Yard police are with us now at the hotel and we are helping them with their enquiries. This is as much as I can say at the moment.”

In describing the video, The News of the World writes:

Having already trousered a £10,000 upfront deposit – which he insisted had gone to the stars – Majeed sat in our west London hotel room at the Copthorne Tara on Wednesday night and eagerly counted out the £140,000 balance in bundles of crisp £50 notes – our “entry ticket” into his already successful betting scam.

Our undercover team was posing as front men for a Far East gambling cartel. In return for their suitcase of money Majeed then calmly detailed what would happen – and when – on the field of play next day, as a taster of all the lucrative information he could supply in future.

He promised: “I’m going to give you three no-balls to prove to you firstly that this is what’s happening. They’ve all been organised, okay?

“This is EXACTLY what’s going to happen, you’re going to SEE these three things happen. I’m telling you, if you play this right you’re going to make a lot of money, believe me!”

Later in the same story, The News of the World goes on to quote the fixer, Majeed, as saying:

“I’ve been doing it with them, the Pakistani team, for about 2½ years. And we’ve made masses and masses of money.”

Later that night Majeed boasted how it was the players who got HIM into match-fixing. He told us: “The players would never tell anybody else. They were the ones who actually approached me about this. This is the beauty of it.

“I was friends with them for four, five years and then they said this happens. I said really?”

Majeed then described how the betting scam operates. He reached into a carrier bag, pulled out a white BlackBerry phone and flicked through a series of messages.

“I deal with an Indian party,” he said. “They pay me for the information.”

Then Majeed explained how many cricket bets are placed on what he called “brackets” – events happening in a group of 10 overs.

If players score well in the first three overs punters would be likely to bet on that continuing for the next seven. But if the fixed players then deliberately STOP scoring or slow down, anybody in on it can “make a killing”, said Majeed. The same happens with bowlers giving away runs or throwing no-balls.

In a follow-up story in The News of the World, gives even more detail:

… after play ended for the day Majeed smugly rang our reporter to brag. “You a bit more comfortable now?” he asked. “Told you. Once you showed your hand, I showed my hand, okay?”

Then he revealed how he had arranged another no-ball for the following day’s play. “Right, it’s going to be Amir’s third over and third ball,” he said. “It’ll be his third over, not the third over of the game.” He ended the call by reminding our man: “Boss, I’m telling you, you’re dealing with the right person, you’re not dealing with an idiot, all right?”

But on Friday morning Majeed contacted our man saying that he’d received a message from Amir. Majeed said: “He’s briefed up. He’s just texted me now to say ‘Shall I do it or not?’ ”

And Amir DID do it – despite getting off to a sensational start, taking three quick wickets in nine balls.

Commentators described him as being “on fire” as England wickets tumbled to his pace attack. Amir managed to skittle out England batsmen Kevin Pietersen, Paul Collingwood and Eoin Morgan without any of them scoring a single run. It was only the fifth time in history the third, fourth and fifth batsmen in an order had been dismissed for ducks. During the blitz, former West Indian fast bowler Michael Holding, commentating for Sky, said: “It’s been Mohammad Amir’s morning. He’s made that ball talk.”

His colleague Michael Atherton said: “Remarkable stuff this morning from Pakistan and in particular Mohammad Amir. Just 18 years of age. He’s running in from the Pavilion End. He’s like an old hand.

“He looks like he’s going to get a wicket with every ball he bowls.”

With Amir tearing through the batsmen, Majeed quickly contacted our man, warning that the promised no-ball might have to be cancelled and that we shouldn’t place big bets on it. He said the captain might tell Amir to keep up the onslaught. “So much is happening out there at the moment,” he added. Majeed was right – captain Salman Butt, who Majeed boasts is one of his players in the fixing scam – did have a quick word with Amir just before the THIRD BALL of the THIRD OVER.

Usually mid-over conversations between bowlers and captains would be about the placement of fielders and whether to make any changes.

On this occasion, no changes were made, prompting commentator Michael Holding to chip in: “A quick conference between captain and the bowler. Hasn’t resulted in the field being changed. Not yet.”

But there WAS a sudden change in Amir’s form. As promised, he bowled and again placed his foot over the crease, into the banned area – a no-ball. The umpire had a word with Amir about the surprise delivery, pointing out how far over the line his foot had been.

On the TV replay, the side view showed he placed his foot at least eight inches past the line. It prompted bowling legend Michael Holding to exclaim: “How far over was that? Woh!”

Ian Botham added: “It’s like net bowling” – referring to when bowlers don’t try so hard when they are practising in the nets.

In its story The News of the World writes that “The scam, fuelled by greed, is a betrayal by the players not only of their sport but of their cricket-crazy homeland.” They are right, but only just. If true – I guess, one keeps hoping against hope that it is not – it would also be a betrayal of decency and dignity. If indeed these allegations are proven true, these cheats – and by that one means not only the fixer but any players or officials involved – should be treated as exactly that: cheats and liars and frauds and given the full punishment for being that. Certainly, this magnitude of lying and cheating should be cause for a permanent removal from ever representing the national side again.

96 Comments on “Match Fixing Scandal: Pakistan Cricketers Set to Lose Test, Series, and Dignity”

  1. HarOON says:
    August 29th, 2010 1:20 am

    Sharam inn ko zara naheen aati.
    They should all be given the maximum punishment.

  2. Ali Hassan says:
    August 29th, 2010 1:42 am

    usually I would be careful about believing this tabloid, but the evidence here seems to be quite convincing.

  3. USMAN says:
    August 29th, 2010 2:06 am

    Oh God. How shameful. This too had to happen now!

  4. Humaira says:
    August 29th, 2010 2:12 am

    I realize that you have worded this carefully by calling these ‘allegations’, but maybe we should wait until they are proved.

  5. Aamir Ali says:
    August 29th, 2010 2:16 am

    British media is worst in the English speaking world, especially a British tabloid.

  6. Aziz says:
    August 29th, 2010 2:19 am

    I knew something was cooking when I saw those 2 no balls and the commentator’s expression. Well…all is good but how is Akmal involved? I hope he is involve….oh I hate him so much.

  7. auk says:
    August 29th, 2010 2:23 am

    How we lost the Sydney test. This according to Majeed.
    ======================================
    To the astonishment of our undercover team, he provided detail of how the test WAS rigged and how crooked gamblers pocketed 1.3million dollars (£837,000) from it.

    The part-time Muslim TV channel presenter opened up during a meeting in our car outside the Bombay Brasserie restaurant in Gloucester Road, west London, on August 18.

    Explaining the scam he said: “Let me tell you the last test we did. It was the Second Test against Australia in Sydney. Australia had two more wickets left. They had a lead of ten runs, yeah. And Pakistan had all their wickets remaining.

    “The odds for Pakistan to lose that match, for Australia to win that match, were I think 40-1. We let them get up to 150 then everyone lost their wickets. That one we made 1.3. But that’s what I mean, you can get up to a million. Tests is where the biggest money is because those situations arise.”

  8. auk says:
    August 29th, 2010 2:28 am

    To read all about it, here is the link.
    http://tiny.cc/am0hj
    And yes, the picture is of Majeed’s 1.8 Million pound mansion in Surrey.
    Also the team management knew all about this as this guy was real cozy with the team, hanging out with them even during the matches. Before we hang the Sialkot lynchers, we need to hang these players, who would sell their country for petty money.

  9. sidhas says:
    August 29th, 2010 2:40 am

    not sure why we are so obsessed with cricket. over and over again the same story is repeated and we expect a different result.

  10. auk says:
    August 29th, 2010 2:44 am

    What story repeated over and over again? This is the first time I am hearing the intricate details, and finding out the reality. And if you don’t understand why we are obsessed with our cricket, or why Americans are obsessed with their Basketball or Football, or why the Brazilians are obsessed with their soccer, then don’t bother commenting.

  11. Adil Syed says:
    August 29th, 2010 2:48 am

    Very depressing news but we must wait for the final result of the investigation.

  12. Naan Haleem says:
    August 29th, 2010 3:34 am

    I think they are collecting funds for flood victims, so they should not be punished

  13. shoaib says:
    August 29th, 2010 4:11 am

    Is there anyone left in Pakistan who is not a cheat ?
    Vey very depressing situation. seems like eon since we heard anything good coming out of Pak. I feel like crying.

  14. Danish says:
    August 29th, 2010 4:14 am

    For the right price, Pakistani’s will sell anything. Problem is that there is so much hunger, disparity and destitution in this part of the world, with a huge population and scarce resources, that the constant sense of insecurity fuels the greed.

  15. DARWEESH says:
    August 29th, 2010 4:31 am

    Shameful,,,real disgusting,,,but don,t expect any action from Pak authorities -top to bottom,as they all are professional gamblers,from Zardaaaars to Lambardars(PCB).

    Reaction from public coming up, a wellknown website on Pak cricket has been shut down as protest by the owner,watch

    http//www.pakcamp.com , http//www.pak.criccamp.com

  16. Rafique says:
    August 29th, 2010 5:01 am

    Bad show. But let us also not lose sight that its just a game. As Adil says, these guys are cheats. Lets treat them as such. They are no more and no less. They are certainly not a metaphor for the nation or some deep symbols of who we are. So, lets just take it as that and not make anything bigger out of this, please.

  17. Somaiyah says:
    August 29th, 2010 5:05 am

    As if its the first time……I am surprised at the foolishness of people who still bother to watch cricket.But then, killing time is one of our favourite hobbies(besides killing people in the streets).
    Totally disgusting.We Pakistanis deserve a HITLER (no one less will do).

  18. Nihari says:
    August 29th, 2010 5:08 am

    Never a dull moment in Pakistani Cricket..

  19. Zubair says:
    August 29th, 2010 5:09 am

    Cricinfo has a good set of details on this and also a good timeline of match-fixing:
    http://www.cricinfo.com/match-fixing-anniversary/content/current/story/464111.html

    Before Paksitanis get all teary eyed about what a bad lot we al are, please look at that. Cheaters are everywhere. And not just bit players like these ones. People like Hansie Cronje of South Africa and Azheruddin of India were caught doing much much worse. This is not to say that we shoudl be light on these players, but just to say that lets not make a national mattam out of this either.

  20. Adnan says:
    August 29th, 2010 5:12 am

    Why is it surprising? They are Pakistanis like you and me. Anyone who is raising finger at them must ask himself/herself how honest he/she is. Its’ interesting everyone became an angel all of sudden and started cursing team.

    Cursing Zardari,Musharraf and now team is easiest. They belong to you. It’s just they got the chance and you are still waiting for yours.

  21. Evan says:
    August 29th, 2010 5:14 am

    Yes, sad event for cricket.

    But there is one small sentence in the news that worries me even more. This time again the real deal-maker (behind this two-bit Mazhar guy) is again an “Indian Party.”

    Every major match-fixing scandal in cricket has been by “Indian Parties” and this shows that they are still at it. Those are the big fish here. We need to get to these Indian mafia people who are masterminding all this.

  22. August 29th, 2010 5:16 am

    AHHH ! Its Shameful and a Painful News … now no one denies that this really happened … as Pakistani i am shameful for this betrayal towards the Game and also towards our Cricket Crazy Nation….

    Banned all of them for Life …

    Don’t allow them any more Visas to Travel …

    PCB Officials who know all that affair from the past Year must be punished also ….

  23. Wasim says:
    August 29th, 2010 5:31 am

    Good point Zubair, lets please not make this a national mournfest on everything about Pakistan. We caught a few cheats. Shame on them.

  24. Zia says:
    August 29th, 2010 6:29 am

    Lets don’t jump on some tabloid story. Lets wait and let the investigations unfold. They are innocent unless proven guilty. It could be true and it could be a lie. I may not trust the cricket players as much as any one out there in the game of money but will you trust an English tabloid? I don’t. Lets wait and see so we don’t have to eat our words later on.

  25. Socks says:
    August 29th, 2010 6:33 am

    sad event for Pakistanis…………..

  26. auk says:
    August 29th, 2010 9:04 am

    Roger Clemes, one of the baseball Superstars of this decade was just indicted for perjury – I know that word does not exist in our dictionary.
    “However, in an interview with Cricinfo in January 2006, Qayyum admitted he been lenient in his verdict on a couple of players, including Wasim Akram. “The quantum of punishment is more of one’s subjective decision, and I was lenient towards one or two of them,” he had said. “I had some soft corner for him [Wasim]. He was a very great player, a very great bowler and I was his fan, and therefore that thing did weigh with me.”
    And therein lies our problem. Our Judicial System is based on “Selective Justice”. It had to come down to this – for the Brits to catch our players with their hands in the cookie jar (I am being euphemistic). It is not just cricket, it pervades everything we do. We tolerate injustice everywhere, have no sense of right and wrong, and that has led to the morass that we as a society are in today.

  27. Watan Aziz says:
    August 29th, 2010 9:41 am

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  28. Kasim Mahmood says:
    August 29th, 2010 10:03 am

    The idea that nothing can be done against you even if you get caught comes from the top echelons of Pakistani society. The same applies to how some of our cricketers think. Holding their ethics above the leaders, politicians and other so called bufoons running Pakistan is just being naive. I am disappointed but not surprised.

  29. Jeet says:
    August 29th, 2010 10:19 am

    PCB is the biggest culprit in all of this. There has been cases of such things in the past, but they never gave any exemplenary punishment which could have acted as a deterrent. I am an Indian cricket fan. The much reviled BCCI has been better in this regards. A couple of players like Azharuddin, Ajay Jadeja, Nayan Mongia were never selected after their name appeared in match mixing in this regard. I know its hard to prove such cases in the court of law but whoc prevents the Pak selectors from not selecting to play for Pakistan ever. They have banned a few tainted players in the past only to oveturn their own decision and selected them again and again sending out wrong signals to such palyers.

  30. Sardar Khan says:
    August 29th, 2010 12:19 pm

    If allegations were proved after thorough investigations.The culprits must be punished hard to pay for the shame they brought on the country.PCB’s management is in weak hands and must also bear the blame and must be changed at once.

  31. Samad Khan says:
    August 29th, 2010 1:34 pm

    It is a shame for cricket, these have happened in the past in various countries and also in IPL….cricket is the biggest loser.

  32. auk says:
    August 29th, 2010 1:45 pm

    Watan Aziz
    Pakistan’s cricket team just walked off Lord’s cricket ground in absolute disgrace with the whole world watching, and you have the nerve to tell me something.

  33. Suresh says:
    August 29th, 2010 1:47 pm

    I think that the scandal goes beyond the players and middlemen. I tend to think that chunk of this money goes to Pakistani government and military. It’s the whole rotten clique!

  34. Sam says:
    August 29th, 2010 1:48 pm

    Another disgraceful video:

    Majeed opens his jacket in which he stashed cash and shows the inside to players Umar Amin (centre) and Wahab Riaz

    http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/924695/Mr-Big-stuffed-the-10k-in-his-jacket-then-went-to-meet-players.html

    Perhaps the media did not get hold of this (yet).

    Simply disgraceful…I have no other word.

  35. unaiz says:
    August 29th, 2010 2:08 pm
  36. Faraz says:
    August 29th, 2010 2:24 pm

    I want a new homeland.

  37. Aamir Ali says:
    August 29th, 2010 4:55 pm

    @Faraz
    lol if your new homeland was populated by the people formerly known as Pakistanis it will be same place as current hellhole of Pakistan.

  38. August 29th, 2010 5:32 pm

    Some comments from the ATP Facebook Page:

    - “just what we needed at this moment in time ..
    sigh ..”
    - “oh God no!!! this is heartbreaking..so painful :((”
    - “Like nation like politicians like Generals like teachers like students engineers like doctors like judges like lawyers and . . . . like president and like Players
    Well come to chor republic of PAKISTAN”
    - “مین نہیں جانتا، میں نہیں مانتا۔۔”
    - “this just too much.we hve lost lst hope of joy.how cn they do this. they sold the dignity nt only of themselves bt also of pakistan”
    - “OUR TEAM SUCKS!!!!”
    - “Mein kis ke haath mein apna laho talash karon——tamaam team ne pehnay hoay hain dustanaay—”
    - “shame on you paki cricket team if this news is true.”
    - “Corruption at the Top (Zardari) BEGETS Corruption at the bottom!”
    - “Bloody characterless assholes..Let them come to pakistan..awaam k jo0tay hon gay aur un ka sar ho ga..!!”
    - “the pics are fake. badly photoshoped. http://pakistancricketmatchfixing.blogspot.com/
    - “kutte ki dum hain ye saare theek nai ho sakte, zaleel kara dia…”
    - “zaleel tu wooo hota ha jiski koi izzat hoo… aur hum Pakistani to bus…”
    - “just relaxx…may b dis z a propegnda against us…i dnt thnk so dat dis s true..”
    - “Wont believe a word of this till a player of ours confesses. If we dont believe in our own country’s team, then who will????”
    - “yah ur right…if v dont blive our country nd our team den who vll b????”
    - “mera b yahi kahyal hai k yah sub propegnda hai taky PAKISTANI team ka 1 day sreis se tawajah hatai jaye”
    - “ur right, Just seems coincidental that at the end of the last test match they’re doing this when the 1 days and t20s will start.”
    - “England media learned how to pressurize Asian cricket teams :D they are doing same what Australia always do to under pressure any winner side :D”

  39. saeed says:
    August 29th, 2010 5:41 pm

    why are we so upset about this? did they do anything different than any one of us had done that in their position?

    And who is going to judge them? President of pakistan. the patron of pakistan cricket? come on people.

  40. Faisal says:
    August 29th, 2010 6:21 pm

    I hope match or spot fixing is dealt with appropriately and Pakistan cricket is cleansed once for all.

    @Suresh, you could be correct, just like IPL’s corruption has it’s roots in Indian government. How is world’s favorite uncle Modi? LoL.

  41. Mujtaba says:
    August 29th, 2010 8:50 pm

    Appeal/ Advise to PCB to bring back the pride to the nation.

    Forgive the childish but magnificent player like Amir most likely spoiled by the bad influence of players like Asif and Akmal, leave everyone without any punishment on few terms and I bet on the results!!!
    1) No more match fee till world cup.
    2) All money gained in this scam goes to flood victims.
    3) All personal property of every player should be frozen till world cup/ 2011.
    4) Police protection from Mob like Sailkot till world cup.
    5) All the revenue generated by matches played till world cup will go to the reconstruction held to build cricketing institution and the protection of these players.

    I believe after accepting these terms, following 11 players would do everything to gain their lost dignity and would put a lesson for coming generations. If terms not accepted police should make them walk in the streets of Sailkot or make them work in the flood areas.

  42. shoaib says:
    August 29th, 2010 9:58 pm

    @Mujtaba,
    People like you make me sick to my stomach. You have complety lost the concept of wrong and right. What they did was criminal and belong behind bars.

  43. Nihari says:
    August 29th, 2010 10:14 pm

    Badnaam hoongay tu kia naam na ho ga

    Salman Butt has just revealed that he and his other team mates have done this only to collect mo ney to be donated to the flood victimes. Further they are working with Saleem Malik to make a foundation to help mob lyncing vitims in the country. The meagre stipend they received from PCB was not enough for that. In responsE PCB AND the governement have imposed lifetime bans on these players which were revoked after 12 minutes…The PCB however clairfied that there was no spot fixing as far as the reversal of the life ban decision was concerned. And Younus Khan will remain suspended as he has done bad tameezi with baray Butt sahib.

  44. hassan says:
    August 29th, 2010 10:26 pm

    Examples have to be made here. I do not care how talented mohd. Amir is. If an example is not made, this will continue. Pakistan is full of talent and many Amirs and Asifs are ready to take over.

    Get rid of the whole team, bring in new people. Unless this happens I will not watch a Pakistan cricket match again.

  45. Nihari says:
    August 29th, 2010 10:49 pm

    @mujtaba

    Brilliant suggestions….Finally a voice of reason

    One more suggestion to be added to your list of actions

    All guilty cricketers should be sent to India, US, eUROPE and other places to lure women of importance…like Madonna, Paris Hilton, Maria /sharapova etc..they should marry these cricketers and announce that they are pakistan ki bahu….Firdous Aashiq Aawan will give them a golden crown and the sins of the cricketeres will be washed away.

  46. Eidee Man says:
    August 29th, 2010 11:12 pm

    Just when you thought we had finally hit rock bottom, we fall even further. This is so painfully humiliating that I cannot even bear to think of it any more.

    All the players should simply be banned for life; I do not have any pity for them, except maybe, maybe Aamer. He should be punished vigorously but I wonder how his being a minor figures into all of this. Yes, he is a big cheat for defaming himself, Pakistan, and the game, but he is an even bigger idiot. Think about it logically, would a sane person in his shoes, having been hailed from all quarters as the next greatest thing in cricket, throw everything away for a few thousand pounds, probably even less than what he made today as man of the series.

  47. Nihari says:
    August 29th, 2010 11:32 pm

    The logic you are presenting for Aamir was also presented for Asif when he was involved in his drug and illegal substance scandal…he was let out after a small ban…and here he is again…

  48. Meengla says:
    August 30th, 2010 12:30 am

    Innocent until proven guilty.

    Also, look at the proportionality of the ‘crime’ and the ‘impact’ of the crime on the Lord’s game. Yesterday’s Dawn.com had an article about the fact that M.Amir still bowled really well despite the allegation. That just does not jive with the magnitude of allegations.

    Fact is that had Pakistan won the Lord’s match these allegations would probably be rubbished and people would be singing praise for this ‘young’ team.

    Let’s not take self-flagellation to even higher level.

    PS. Yes, the ‘young’ team does not major fixing but that is for another topic.

  49. rehan says:
    August 30th, 2010 1:52 am

    http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/924695/Mr-Big -stuffed-the-10k-in-his-jacket-then-went-to-meet-p layers.html

    Wahab Riaz is playing only his second test and Umar Amin is also very much new in the side only his second tour. The involvement of these 2 new guys proves that this thing is happening from long time and team management is also involved in it.
    IF proven guilty they all should be banned for life and cricket board officials should also be sacked.

  50. Faraz says:
    August 30th, 2010 2:26 am

    Our president is crook #1. The PCB chief is corrupt. So why is everyone outraged that our players are beymaan? Our govt is so corrupt that people don’t even want to donate it money for flood relief. Wish people were equally outraged when we elected corrupt leaders.

  51. auk says:
    August 30th, 2010 2:32 am

    It makes me sick when people talk about “innocent until proven guilty”. These guys are supposed to be ambassadors of the country, honoured around the world for what they represent. They have shown by their conduct that they can’t handle that responsibility. It had to come down to this -
    “During the ceremony, England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) chairman Giles Clarke refused to shake Aamer’s hand when presenting the player with the Pakistan Man of the Series award and a cheque for 4,000 pounds”.

  52. Truth Seeker says:
    August 30th, 2010 4:16 am

    In the press conference, Pakistani captain and manager when asked the question “Are the allegations true”, shockingly answered “These are only allegations, and should be proven first”. This question was asked repeatedly and the same answer was given repeatedly. Never once did they answer that the allegations are “untrue”.

    An honest man will look directly in your eyes, and will say, “These allegations are untrue, I don’t care how much time the process will take, but this is all a lie, it is false and fake and I WILL prove my innocence”. This is how an honest man who has nothing to fear will retort.

    As far as I am concerned, I am sure that they are guilty.

  53. Mastoi Shah Murad says:
    August 30th, 2010 7:55 am

    • Striving for excellence motivates you; striving for perfection is demoralizing
    • You know a dream is like a river, ever changing as it flows.
    And a dreamer’s just a vessel that must follow where it goes.
    Trying to learn from what’s behind you and never knowing what’s in store
    makes each day a constant battle just to stay between the shores.
    And I will sail my vessel ’til the river runs dry.
    Like a bird upon the wind, these waters are my sky.
    I’ll never reach my destination if I never try,
    So I will sail my vessel ’til the river runs dry.
    Too many times we stand aside and let the water slip away.
    To what we put off ’til tomorrow has now become today.
    So don’t you sit upon the shore and say you’re satisfied.
    Choose to chance the rapids and dare to dance the tides
    • Life takes on meaning when you become motivated, set goals and charge after them in an unstoppable manner
    • Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men’s blood and probably themselves will not be realized. Make big plans; aim high in hope and work, remembering that a noble, logical diagram once recorded will not die, but long after we are gone be a living thing, asserting itself with ever-growing insistence
    • The ultimate inspiration is the deadline
    • Nobody motivates today’s workers. If it doesn’t come from within, it doesn’t come. Fun helps remove the barriers that allow people to motivate themselves
    • If you do not wish a man to do a thing, you had better get him to talk about it; for the more men talk, the more likely they are to do nothing else
    • There is only one way… to get anybody to do anything. And that is by making the other person want to do it
    • Whatever touches the nerves of motive, whatever shifts man’s moral position, is mightier than steam, or calorie, or lightening
    • If I would be happy, I would be a bad ballplayer. With me, when I get mad, it puts energy in my body
    • Without a compelling cause, our employees are just putting in time. Their minds might be engaged, but their hearts are not. Meaning precedes motivation
    • What comes from the heart, goes to the heart
    • No one does anything from a single motive
    • I want you to be everything that’s you, deep at the center of your being
    • The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not to win but to take part, just as the most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.
    • Motivation is like food for the brain. You cannot get enough in one sitting. IRecognition is the greatest motivatort needs continual and regular top up s
    • The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves
    • We know nothing about motivation. All we can do is write books about it
    • Comfort the afflicted, and afflict the comfortable
    • Recognition is the greatest motivator
    • Motivation is the art of getting people to do what you want them to do because they want to do it
    • The best morale exist when you never hear the word mentioned. When you hear a lot of talk about it, it’s usually lousy
    • If you would lift me up you must be on higher ground.
    • Five minutes of today are worth as much to me, as five minutes in the next millennium.
    Let us be poised, and wise, and our own, today.
    • Men who for truth and honor’s sake
    Stand fast and suffer long.
    Brave men who work while others sleep,
    Who dare while others fly…
    They build a nation’s pillars deep
    And lift them to the sky.

    Posted By: DR SHAH MURAD

  54. Me Never Ever says:
    August 30th, 2010 10:12 am

    too many depressing news then you come across something and give you a hope
    http://tinyurl.com/24ctpwe

  55. Umar Shah says:
    August 30th, 2010 11:19 am

    ‘Proud Pakistani’, isn’t that what we love to say at every occasion for no reason at all? I wonder all those times, what are these people proud of? What in God’s name is making them proud? Are they secretly aware of something good about Pakistan? Hum upni zillat aur ruswai kay khud zimmay daar hein.

  56. AF Ahmad says:
    August 30th, 2010 12:06 pm

    Cricketing events of the last few weeks have me wondering about something. It seems the current Pakistan cricket team can beat Australia and England in a test whenever they want and of course, lose to them when desired. Does that seem plausible?

    Shouldn’t the losses of Australian and English teams at the hand of Pakistanis raise suspicions too. Is it posssible the whole cricketing setup is crooked?

  57. Ben Abi says:
    August 30th, 2010 12:45 pm

    Guilty for sure, watching Capt Butt says it all.
    Banned for life from representing Pakistan.
    Jail Time for fraud.

    And now who is coming for T20, Shoaib Malik, Afridi ?? non betters ?? not likely.

    as they say “good girls are those who dont get caught”

  58. tehmina tariq says:
    August 30th, 2010 1:09 pm

    As a nation we pray for their success so we can be proud of their victory. And what do these cricketers do? They take every opportunity to let us down, to sell themselves to the highest bidder; shame us by their undisciplined behavior.

    Those who have let us down should be sent to jail with the severest punishment. Unless and until we make examples of them they will continue without remorse. These are traitors to the country and should be treated as such. This poor country spends millions on them, treats them as heroes and this how they reciprocate.

    Right now the Team needs to be disbanded, PCB shut down, all funds diverted to the present calamity, their assets seized and families ostracized. Instead of producing heroes and sportsmen of whom we can be proud the cricket team has become a traitor making factory.

  59. Naan Haleem says:
    August 30th, 2010 3:01 pm

    They earn money (LOTS of MONEY) from:
    1. PCB contract
    2. Domestic department / team / bank salary
    3. Match fees
    4. Sponsorship
    5. Commercials
    6. Interviews
    yet they are greedy for more money???

  60. Adam Insaan says:
    August 30th, 2010 3:01 pm

    ….the issue is we can fool humans…..
    -but whom do we really try to fool ??
    -at the end we are going to be judged by THE JUDGE.
    (Its Ramadan so should we not at least try to behave in accordance with……)

  61. Naan Haleem says:
    August 30th, 2010 3:35 pm

    I forgot to mention 2 other sources of Money in my last post

    7. County agreements
    8. IPL / PPL

  62. banjara286 says:
    August 31st, 2010 1:24 am

    if, after investigation, the players are indeed found guilty then the pak govt. is promising exemplary punishment. i suspect that by this they mean imposing a ban for life. this would be tragic for a young cricketer like mohd. amir.

    my suggestion is, instead, to not ban the players but use this situation to penalize the players as follows:

    a) the players should be fined the amount they received as bribe plus their entire compensation for the uk tour.

    b) the players should be sent back home immediately and replaced by others – no further cricket for them for this year

    c) they should be allowed to earn their place in the national team starting with the 2011 engagements depending on their fitness and performance

    d) the total money for the fines from all the guilty players should, then, be donated to the national flood relief fund.

    aside from severely financially penalizing the guilty players, this could provide them an opportunity for some redemption as well.

  63. auk says:
    August 31st, 2010 1:44 am

    It is not in the hands of the Pakistan government or the PCB to decide what the punishment will be. Because we chose to let go of cheats like Waseem Akram over 10 years ago and then chose to look the other way time and time again over the last 10 years.
    If Pakistan is to maintain its status as a member of the ICC, then we will have to accept what ICC decides as the punishment. Also our credibility as a board is shot, and unless we get rid of Ejaz Butt and his mafia, it won’t be business as usual. Remember, England helped us out by offering to host our home series’ – we returned the favor like this. They and anyone else will be thinking twice before they help us out again in the future.

  64. auk says:
    August 31st, 2010 2:00 am

    I was a little shocked when Zulqarnain Haider was sent home after the 2nd test, after batting so valiantly in the 2nd innings. It did not make sense. I happened to catch his interview today, where he claimed that he was sent home because of a conspiracy and his injury was minor.
    But after all these allegations, his being packed and sent home made perfect sense. He would have spoiled the party for everyone as he wasn’t part of the inner circle, and if given another chance could have blocked Akmal from getting back in the team. They found a minor excuse and sent him on his way, and Akmal came merrily back in the team, at his pathetic best. That tells you how far this racket was planning. This also tells you that the team management was in bed with them all along.

  65. Aqil says:
    August 31st, 2010 3:09 am

    The involvement of young players like Muhammad Amir, Vahab Riaz and Umar Amin also brings up another angle. No rookie in his right mind would risk getting involved with such shady business at such an early stage, unless the whole set up is involved. Though of course, some people do some very stupid things too (Asif’s repeated drug problems being an example), and therefore, one can’t rule anything out either. However, I do wonder whether some of these youngsters might have been told that if they wanted a place in the team, they had to participate in fixing. Rememberr that in the past, players like Basit Ali, Rashid Latif and Aamir Sohail had their careers badly affected because they spoke out on match fixing. The whole PCB needs to be thoroughly investigated along with the players and examplery punishments must be given. If found guilty, life bans for Salman Butt, Kamran Akmal and Asif. For the 3 unger playersr bans if they fully cooperate with all the investigations and help in providing evidence to uncover the full extent of the scam, including the role of high ups, but if there is any lack of cooperation from them, then they should be banned for life too.

  66. kknew says:
    August 31st, 2010 3:48 am

    God, I hate sports. Sooooooo corrupt and phony and meaningless …..

  67. Zubair says:
    August 31st, 2010 4:21 am

    So sad that we are not backing our players. Our minds are so much corrupted are we are so frustrated that we jump to conclusions without seeing both sides of the picture. Shame on this news reporting and posts.

  68. Crazee says:
    August 31st, 2010 5:14 am

    Breaking News : When the Scotland Yard found money equivalant to 37 lakhs from Salman Butt’s room he explained that the money is for “dresses for his sister….”

    When asked why are there UAE Dhirams as well in the currency?, he had no answers.

    Even if it is true this man should be shot in the middle of his head. When 1/3 of Pakistan is reeling under floods and had to “beg” for international aid. This guy is willing to spend 37 lakhs for “dresses for his sister….”

  69. AZFAR says:
    August 31st, 2010 12:33 pm

    I hope the ICC will be able to clean the deep filth this time, not just the players but the rings of people who are behind all of this.

  70. Anwer says:
    August 31st, 2010 1:16 pm

    http://search.jang.com.pk/details.asp?nid=463782

    Hasan Nisar

    میری منطق تو بہت ہی بنیادی اور سادہ سی ہے کہ کیا صرف اورصرف ہماری
    کرکٹ ٹیم ہی بے غیرت، بدکردار اورکرپٹ ہے؟؟ اگر فرشتوں پرمشتمل اس معاشرہ میں صرف یہی چندگناہگار ہیں تو انہیں پھانسیاں دے دو لیکن اگراس عظیم الشان حمام میں سب ہی ننگے ہیں تو بھائی ذرا دھیرج سے کام لو کیونکہ تمہاری ہماری کرکٹ ٹیم ہی دو نمبری میں ملوث نہیں… ہر ٹیم کا یہی حال ہے۔

    کیا اس ملک کی ”سیاسی ٹیم“ با کردارہے؟ یا اس ملک کی ”فکری ٹیم“ کا کردار
    قابل رشک ہے؟اس ملک کی ”روحانی ٹیموں“ پر غورکرو جنہوں نے قوم کو گلی محلے کی سطح پر فرقوں میں تقسیم کر رکھا ہے اور پھر اس ملک کی ”کاروباری ٹیموں“ پرغور کرو جو بنکوں کو تھک لگاتے ہیں، انڈر انوائسنگ یا اوور انوائسنگ کرتے ہیں، کسٹم ڈیوٹیاں بچاتے ہیں، ٹیکس نہیں دیتے، ذخیرہ اندوزی کرتے ہیں، ناجائز منافع خوری میں ملوث ہیں اور رمضان جیسے مہینے میں بھی مسلمان بھائیوں کی کھالیں اتارنے سے باز نہیں آتے…… ان سب سے بڑھ کر اس ملک کی ”انتظامی ٹیم“ دیکھ لیں جسے عام زبان میں ”انتظامیہ“ کہتے ہیں تو کیا ان کے کردارقابل رشک ہیں؟

    جسے دیکھو ان لونڈوں پر چڑھائی میں مصروف ہے۔ کوئی ان کے لئے کڑی سے کڑی سزا کا مطالبہ کر رہا ہے، کو ئی ان پر بھاری جرمانے تجویز کررہا ہے، کسی کے نزدیک ان کی جائیدادوں کی بحق سرکار ضبطی بہت ضروری ہے اورکوئی کہتا ہے کہ ان کی ”میچ فکسنگ“ نے قوم کے سر شرم سے جھکا دیئے تو میں پوچھتاہوں کہ مجھے وہ ٹیمیں تو گنواؤ اور بتاؤ جنہوں نے قوم کے سر فخر سے بلند کردیئے ہوں۔ہماری تقریباً ہر ٹیم کی پرفارمنس ہماری کرکٹ ٹیم جیسی ہی ہے تو ان بیچاروں پر اتنا غصہ کچھ جچتا نہیں۔ محتاط ترین الفاظ میں عرض کروں تووزیراعظم سے لے کر عوام تک ہر کوئی اوور ری ایکٹ (Over react) کر رہا ہے۔

    ”حیران ہوں کہ روؤں یا پیٹوں جگر کو میں“ کہ ایک طرف ہمارا وزیراعظم یہ کہتا ہے کہ 80 فیصد غیرملکی امداد این جی اوز کے ذریعے ملے گی اور اس میں سے آدھی وہ خود کھا جائیں گی۔ دنیا کوہمارے حکمرانوں پراعتبار نہیں اورحکمران اپنی این جی اوز کو چور سمجھتے ہیں اورپھر یہ سب مل جل کر کہتے ہیں کہ … کرکٹ ٹیم نے قوم کے سر شرم سے جھکا دیئے۔ حضور! ہتھ ہولا رکھیں کہ ہماری کرکٹ ٹیم بھی ہمارے سیاستدانوں، بیوروکریسی، ملّا کریسی، دانشوروں اور کاروباریوں وغیرہ جیسی ہی ہے وہ ہم میں سے اور ہم ان میں سے ہیں اسی لئے اتنی سیخ پائی اوراچھل کود اچھی نہیں لگتی۔

  71. Athar S. says:
    August 31st, 2010 4:03 pm
  72. Jerry says:
    August 31st, 2010 6:57 pm

    I think they should be punished and stripped of their place in the team if this turns our to be right. But lets also go after the real culprits the people who are running the ring, not just this Majeed guy but the Indian gang leaders he is talking about.

    Indians are the mafia of cricket, find any cricket scandal and when you trace it there is an Indian gang behind it. That is the rot that has to be cleaned.

  73. ABDUL says:
    August 31st, 2010 10:02 pm

    dont blame indians,why should the cricketers accept first.they should be true enough to play for the country.its tere mistake.so this proves that if they are asked to choose between country and money,they go for money.

  74. Arvind says:
    August 31st, 2010 10:12 pm

    The Indian connection is now becoming more clear in this and our failure to really clean up Indian corruption from the game is now coming out in shape of this rot. http://dailyqi.com/?p=23683

  75. Mus says:
    August 31st, 2010 11:50 pm

    With all the spotlight on Amir and Asif,we are all overlooking the sleazy role in the whole match fixing episode played by wicket keeper Kamran Akmal in Australia and then in England.
    TV replays clearly show Akmal deliberately missing an easy run out and dropping several dolly catches and two easy stumpings in Australia.Then to make sure Pakistan loses the test,Akmal played poorly and got out to a deliberate poor shot.
    If there is anyone in the team who needs to be punished severely it is Kamran Akmal.
    Today’s paper has revealed the number of properties Kamran Akmal has acquired in the last 3 years.The wicket keeper owns a large house in Lahore Defence and atleast 5 plots in posh Lahore neighbourhoods in addition to a shopping plaza.

  76. Naveed says:
    September 1st, 2010 9:36 am

    All three pakistanis players(aamer
    ,asif and butt) are innocent…this is the trick of blady england………may ALLAh save my pakistan and all pakistanis players………..

  77. engrmuh says:
    September 1st, 2010 3:33 pm

    Its propaganda against Pakistani cricket ! The video can be made any time .If the editor of newspaper knew that he would have disclosed the video before the match.

    Its anti Pakistan !

  78. Mus says:
    September 1st, 2010 9:01 pm

    Okay propaganda or whatever.
    But lets not overlook Kamran Akmal in the recent Australia series and the first 2 tests in England.He has been dropping plenty of catches and missing too many stumpings and run outs lately.
    What do you say about that?He is anything but innocent.

  79. AN says:
    September 1st, 2010 10:10 pm

    Abdul is right. Ultimately, the bookies wherever they are from (they are all over including Mumbai, Karachi, Dubai and London with legal “front” shops etc.) can stay in business only if the players participate. The trouble now is that they have found that Indian/Australia etc. players inaccessible due their million dollar plus per year income. Even modest first class players elsewhere get good salaries. The temptation is too much for Pakistani players. Besides, PCB may ban/drop them for no reason anytime, so the insecurity feeds this need for the fast buck. Also, why was this shady person allowed to get so close to the players? Even if this story is only half true, it still smells bad. Player agents should be of clean background. These days it is easy to check. So we should not blame others because if you are in a Govt job in the US and a background check shows that you do business with shady people, it will be considered a serious issue. I hope Amir survives with a one year rehab type suspension rather than a total ban.

  80. engrmuh says:
    September 2nd, 2010 7:33 am

    @ MUS

    From now onward if any bowler balls no ball you will say that he has contacts with bookies ,or lets take Peterson he is great player how he has played all the test series.Can you you say that he has contact with bookies.If some one is out of form and you blame him for doing intentionally(i-e kamran akmal)

  81. Salahuddin says:
    September 2nd, 2010 10:56 am

    Shame on every Pakistani who has more faith in a British tabloid than in his own countrymen! If these players are proved innocent, all of you-including Adil Najam, should have the decency to apologize for the slandering that you are partaking in!

  82. AN says:
    September 2nd, 2010 12:24 pm

    Actually, I have been careful here. It is just that PCB and some of the players have a chequered past. We should not become paranoid and suspect every no ball or dropped catch etc. in the future. It is just that in this case some players were allowed to get close to people of questionable background. Where was the institutional protection so that young guys dont get trapped? Appearances tend to matter for the public image, even if players dont go all the way. Asif’s (his past) seems to lack any sort of control and one cannot “explain” it away. A good bowler like him is on a self destructive path. Even if the case is not proven to the standards of a formal court, the lingering questions in the public will force other cricket boards to slowly reduce the already few matches. If a good house cleaning is done, one can see this last chance bearing fruit.

  83. Mus says:
    September 2nd, 2010 2:41 pm

    @engrmuh:
    Deliberately dropping 3 catches in an innings,missing an easy run out and a stumping is a much serious crime than just bowloing a no-ball.
    Remember a few weeks ago ICC had reported Kamran Akmal’s suspicious performance to PCB but Ejaz Butt chose to ignore it.

  84. ty says:
    September 2nd, 2010 10:52 pm

    I agree with Mr. Salahuddin

  85. Watan Aziz says:
    September 2nd, 2010 11:12 pm

    *** ANNOUNCEMENT ***

    Withdrawal of Award Notification.

    With immediate effect, the committee to select the best insult against Pakistan, regrets to announce the withdrawal of award for insulting Pakistan.

    We are deeply disappointed to observe that the creativity has totally disappeared in attempts to insult Pakistan and Pakistani peoples. We found that much here was written before and therefore, plagiarism should not pay.

    We however, think, there were few aspiring ones and we encourage them to keep trying. The art of calling Pakistan bad is very lucrative and pays well. But we are now demanding higher standards as it becomes competitive.

    (Disclaimer: OK folks, this is a special “dekho, iss ko take it easy low” spoof and not authorized by ATP. The announcement of the withdrawal of the award is also a spoof. ATP assumes no responsibility for the announcement or the non distribution of awards. )

  86. Adnan says:
    September 3rd, 2010 9:34 am

    Great News coming out. Today its in papers that few Pakistani cricketers were caught in casino while gambling.

    When someone prefer to follow path against Allah then such insult becomes fate. I remember the days when Inzy was captain and entire Pakistani team used to play as unit and offered Namaz and other things. I remember at that time atheists liberals used to cry over practise of religion in teams and they wickedly ignored the performance of Pakistani team in that era.

    Now when their is no religion in sports and players are busy in betting and gambling then it sounds surprising that these radical liberals are cursing them.

    Any Muslim who goes away from religion face things like we are facing as a nation or as national players.

  87. Mohammad says:
    September 3rd, 2010 1:18 pm

    Adnan is very right.
    The bad performance of Pakistan team is because they strayed from the path of real Islam and Allah.
    Just look at the Australian team. They perform so well because they are so pious and such perfect followers of Islam in everything!

  88. engrmuh says:
    September 3rd, 2010 2:50 pm

    @ Muhammad
    “Just look at the Australian team. They perform so well because they are so pious and such perfect followers of Islam in everything!”

    Just think Mr.Muhammad…. what are you saying .The drunkard aussies are following Islam ?

    It’s true
    “The bad performance of Pakistan team is because they strayed from the path of real Islam and Allah.”

  89. Umair says:
    September 3rd, 2010 10:03 pm

    All these players should be kicked from represneting Pakistan ever again and I hope police will also investigate the Indian mafia behind this.

  90. shobha says:
    September 7th, 2010 12:31 am

    what’s the big deal ?

    I am not a cricket fan…but I just want to understand why this is so ‘big’…..

    For the sake of argument lets says the allegations are true, even then , it wasn’t like they fixed the final ‘outcome’ of the match like Azharudin, Hansje and Jadeja had done. They appeared to be still playing their best at other times.

    Yeah they occasionally gave away a no-ball ( again assuming allegations are true)… so give them appropriate punishment,, why the talk of hanging them etc ? This is an overreaction.

    Cheating is common…everybody cheats.. different people cheat in different aspects of their life… so why are these young men being treated as if they are traitors ?

  91. subhan says:
    September 7th, 2010 6:09 am

    it is not a big deal. if it is true but it can also be false and they want to kik Aamir and asif from the team who are the best in this time.
    geyai Afridi
    geyai Pakistan

  92. Humanoid says:
    September 8th, 2010 3:11 pm

    Corrupt leadership creates corrupt society and vice versa!

    Sitting and commenting is easy, but to be in Amir’s shoes and refusing money take a lot of courage that even Wasim’s did not have! Easy to blame them when ourselves are biggest crooks, have selected cooks to lead us, so what to expect from 2 boys from villages lead by a city boy? You can not say poor education, Butt is educated! and as my uncle used to put it rightly that as we got educated we became master crooks too else we would not have committed the same mistakes as our predecessors made!
    This is just the tip of the iceberg, now we are suddenly nationalist, cause its someone else on the line not us!

  93. ASAD says:
    September 21st, 2010 5:22 am

    yar pore umr ban lgana chahey

  94. Saeeda says:
    September 21st, 2010 9:11 pm

    Those who were guilty should be punished. But let us not punish everyone just because some were guilty.

  95. saqib zeb says:
    October 19th, 2010 10:11 am

    not a single player has fixed the test match its all the trir of english media INSHSHALLAH all players would be cleared in ruselt

  96. Kevin Mark says:
    December 23rd, 2010 2:21 am

    Some sports fans are a liitle on the voilent part,espacally when their lifes are tough.life presser,even for the wood chipsmakers

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