Pakistan at War: Militants Attack Air Force and Military Installations in Karachi. Some Attackers Still Inside Military Base Where Fighting Continues.

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A series of explosions and blasts have been reported in Karachi in and around various military installations, including the Mehran Naval Aviation base. Multiple explosions were reported from the PAF area near Shahrah-e-Faisal in Karachi. Flames from within the Air Force compound have been shown on television and reportedly some of the attackers are still inside the military compound where fighting continues.

Details remain sketchy and continue to evolve by the minute. Meanwhile, some are already calling this a “Mumbai-like” operation with choreographed multiple points of attack and mention is being made of possibly hostages being taken within a particular part of the compound.

According to Dawn:

Several explosions have been heard near the PAF Museum on Dalmia Road in Karachi. The force of the blasts have  shattered  the windows of surrounding buildings, reports said. Heavy gunfire was also reported after the explosion. An eyewitness said that the blasts took place near the gate of Faisal Base.

A large fire and a thick cloud of smoke has also been reported. Police have sealed the area. “We are trying to check the cause of the blast. I cannot say,” said a senior police official. Another police official said gunfire was also reported from inside the base, Reuters reported. “Several blasts were heard inside, the firing is still continuing,” Aslam Khan, a senior police officer at site told AFP.

According to The News:

Four people were killed in an armed attack Sunday by terrorists on PNS Mehran, a heavily guarded base of Pakistan Navy, located along Sharea Faisal, according to a foreign news agency. TV images showed flames rising in the air from PNS Mehran where terrorists blew up a US made P-3C Orion plane of Pakistan Navy.

Five injured in the incident were shifted to a local hospital. Additional personnel of security forces were also seen moving inside PNS Mehran. Electricity of the entire area has also been shut down. Earlier, four blasts were reported from the area near PAF base Faisal.

Ambulances and fire tenders were seen rushing toward the base following the powerful blasts that were heard across a wide radius. Gunshots fired from sophisticated weapons were also heard following the blasts. It is pertinent to mention here that in the previous weeks three buses of Pakistan Navy had been attacked by terrorists in the metropolitan city of Karachi.

111 Comments on “Pakistan at War: Militants Attack Air Force and Military Installations in Karachi. Some Attackers Still Inside Military Base Where Fighting Continues.”

  1. Muskan says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:16 am

    This is truly insane!! my heart cries out for Pakistan :(

  2. Noman says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:19 am

    I literally have tears in my eyes. The country is falling apart and we are still not united against our enemies. We keep making cheap points at each others at political parties, at military, at everyone, and meanwhile we are being killed and destroyed. Please, please, please, if we wont unite now, then when will we do it.

  3. Fatima says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:20 am

    Oh God.
    Please save my country. Allah khair karr.

  4. HarooN says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:22 am

    Yes Pakistan is at war. But against who? Itself.

  5. Noor says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:23 am

    Although painful, the attacks should serve as a reminder that Pakistan will have to fight this war to the end and defeat the terrorists. That is the only option we have

  6. Pakistani says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:24 am

    You know ever since I had noticed that all these Taliban supporters as well as other pseudo types had upped the anti-military hate propaganda. I also find many things wrong with military but on social websites and lists you suddenly saw this very very strong hatred and cruel words for military pouring out. Same time you see this new rise in attacks on military people. What a nashukri people we are that we spew hatred for those dying for us and therefore support these militants.

  7. Humanoids says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:25 am

    We are going to pay a price for our pathetic actions! Military after the Parliament show has gone mute once again! Its been reported that one American serviceman has been killed at Faisal base and the recently acquired Pak Navy Aircraft has been blown away! Military has to come out clean here since NRO and the subsequent idiotic plannings!

  8. Desh says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:26 am

    The army should have realized long ago that it was playing with fire. Now may be too late…

  9. Bangash says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:29 am

    Total failure and incompetence of Pakistan Armed Forces is on display for all Pakistanis to see. DG ISI should now resign if he has even a shred of “Ghairat”.

  10. pakistani says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:32 am

    @Bangash.
    Can you please stop spewing hate and advancing your anti-Army propaganda for just now. Can you not see beyond your nose, man. This is not an attack on army that you are feeling so happy about, this is an attack on Pakistan. Can you not see that in your hatred?

  11. Jawed says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:34 am

    More attacks being reported from inside base. This fighting is still going on. Your description of this as Mumbai style is right. This is a trained and coordinated operation more than usual.

  12. Hussain says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:41 am

    will we ever learn. these taliban and mullahs and extremists are out to destroy Pakistan.

  13. Eidee Man says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:41 am

    The need of the hour is for the military leadership to come out and take the entire nation into confidence; explain to us what has been done before and what’s being done now, what terrorist groups are operating, etc etc.

    The soldiers keep dying in the Frontier and in our main cities, while the generals play games.

  14. Sarah Borthwick says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:47 am

    oh my god this is really terrible/…. :(

  15. May 23rd, 2011 1:47 am

    May Allah Bless Pakistan.

  16. Nihari says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:51 am

    Writing at the back of a Lahore rickshaw

    “Hoshiryar……Fauj so rahi hai”

    Another SMS I received

    PAF radar for sale…Cant detect incoming US helicopters. Can catch Star Plus…For Rs. 999

  17. Baseer says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:56 am

    Dont mean to sound like one of those indian conspiracy tv channels but this is too well organized and maybe we should consider possibility of RAW. Think about it, now would be the time for them to do something big and this is exactly the type of thing they will do. this is not denying he and blasts that are happening, but this seems very different.

  18. Billy says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:56 am

    ohh my this is really speechless disaster…

  19. May 23rd, 2011 1:57 am

    Another way to divert people from Imran khan`s dharna by MQM , Isn’t it?

  20. Bangash says:
    May 23rd, 2011 2:03 am

    @Pakistani
    My dear it should be a concern to all us Pakistanis, that despite taking the lion’s share of the budget, and being coddled for 63 years, the Pakistan Armed Forces cannot even protect GHQ or their own bases.

    I am looking for “Ghairatmands” to resign, starting with DG ISI, so that we can begin accountability and improve the performance of Pakistan Armed Forces.

  21. Pakistani says:
    May 23rd, 2011 2:06 am

    @Bangash
    I want DG ISI to resign to. But then what. You think this would not have happened if he had resigned? Who are you kidding. For once think of Pakistan rather than just your hatred for military. No nation can survive this way. No one hates Paksitan more than Pakistanis themselves. No one bad mouths us more than we do ourselves.

  22. Samdani says:
    May 23rd, 2011 2:13 am

    What a tragedy. Even bigger tragedy is reading the comments here.
    Any other nation would come together in times like this.
    In Pakistan we seem to be dividing further and breaking apart.

  23. Bangash says:
    May 23rd, 2011 2:16 am

    @Pakistani
    I am glad you also want DG ISI to resign. I believe if one resigns in disgrace due to total incompetence, his successor will work harder to keep his job.

    Right now Pakistan Armed Forces are incapable of defending the country, I am merely pointing this out. That is not equivalent to hatred against Pakistan Armed Forces, it is a desire to improve their miserable performance.

  24. Noman says:
    May 23rd, 2011 2:18 am

    I also find the comments very disturbing.

    Nations are tested in times like this and we are clearly failing the test.

  25. Madad says:
    May 23rd, 2011 2:25 am

    Please pray, Hasbun-Allahu wa Ni’m-al-Wakil. Ni’m-al-Maula wa Ni’m-al-Naseer.
    Allah is sufficient for us and He is the best disposer of affairs (for us).

  26. SAM says:
    May 23rd, 2011 2:29 am

    They even dont let anyone inside the base with being checked your identity and they take ID CARDS OF EVERYONE and going in a shape of flocks of people going inside,impossible as i have experienced going inside this area, they ask you thousand question that why are you going in ?who are u going to meet inside ??how long time would you take,n plausibly if it were their mistake that the terrorist went inside in flocks of 10 to 12 ,is seem totally unbelievable to me.How could that be happened in presence of such security in and outside that barracks which one has to pass inorder to get in.

  27. Crazee says:
    May 23rd, 2011 2:42 am

    Its past 2 am here in India and on a Pak news channel a Paki security analyst just confirmed that it is a big loss to Pakistan that the P3 Orion has been destroyed. It is the only plane with on board radar to detect submarines and other movable artillery.

    This reminds me of an old saying “Bandar ke haath mein ustra (razor) nahin dena chahiye (coz you never know who he will attack).

    Your Army & ISI has given “Ustra” (arms and tactical support) to “Bandars” (Terrorists). They have created enough mayhem in India and Afghanistan and many other countries of the world. Now the “Bandar” has come back home and wanna play.

  28. nou says:
    May 23rd, 2011 2:46 am

    We need an even larger and grander Defense Housing Authority Scheme in PNS Mehran——

    Terrorists strolling on Air force Runways!!! WTF ..No other self absorbed cretins would sell their airforce base to erect town houses and rastaurants in their garrisons. This is what you get when you turn soldiers in bloody waiters!

    What else do you expect from World’s biggest real estate agency aka Pak Forces.!!?

    The real qustion is , will plot prices drop in General’s Colony after this incident!!!

  29. Shez says:
    May 23rd, 2011 3:04 am

    A very unfortunate event indeed. No common Jihadi can carry out this attack. It requires expert planning. Pakistani military establishment, if it has any shame left, should reveal the name of the real culprit. India remains a suspect until a full inquiry is completed. Delhi would be enjoying the moment. They have been quite happy during the last 20 days. Hope their happiness will be short lived.

  30. Omar Khan says:
    May 23rd, 2011 3:04 am

    Why are you all so suprised? Our country has been playing with fire for $$$ for over 3 decades. Those who have been shouting throughout these decades were labelled as ghadar’s and traitor’s. And they still are labeled exactly that. I would request Gilani/Zardari or any other cartoon out there to board a flight to Europe because now it is time to grab more $$$. At least our coffers should be full when the country disintegrates.

  31. Tariq Bhutta says:
    May 23rd, 2011 3:33 am

    This would have never happened if we had ordered more Air Conditioned Pink Prados and Land Cruisers for our Armed Officers.

  32. Ali Wazir says:
    May 23rd, 2011 3:50 am

    This attack is scary it means the terrorist are well armed , well motivated, meticulous planners and have to some degree infiltrated our armed forces.The can attack anywhere and anytime at will. And our intelligence and security apparatus can only respond after the damage is done. The Americans cant seem to stop them in Afghanistan and we arent able in Pakistan.
    Attacks have been common place in KP & tribal areas since last few year on soft civilian targets which hasnt bothered our establishment much. But now it seems this fight is spilling over into other Urban & Military centers of Pakistan. Artillary shelling and drone strikes in tribal areas have been utterly counter productive. We have lost any chance of organizing a intelligence network to counter the terrorist,or to contain them to one area.(Not that is evident our ISI could actually organize one). A change of strategy is required, at least $36 million dollars of assets went up in smoke by a $30 RPG this is unsustainable.
    What if they attack a nuclear installation next, or HMC, or the GHQ again.If I were working for RAW I would ask my ambassador in kabul to get in touch with these guys and give them list of targets, detonators and a few million dollars. Do we have any idea what the Americans have got us into?????

  33. Nihari says:
    May 23rd, 2011 3:56 am

    @Madad
    as u say boss

    Hasbun-Army wa Ni’m-al-Wakil. Ni’m-al-General wa Ni’m-al-Kiyani

  34. Z says:
    May 23rd, 2011 5:33 am

    Interior minister says that we can not put intelligence people everywhere then why the heck is he at the post. Shameless creatures! Armed forces and intelligence [ top brass] are only good for conquering there own people & country, can not stand in front of enemies.
    Allah protect our country.

  35. Aamir Ali says:
    May 23rd, 2011 5:38 am

    The last real operations conducted by Pakistan Army was in 2009 in Swat/South Waziristan. Then Gen Kayani said army needed “rest” so these terrorists have had 2 years to reorganize and relaunch their murderous campaign.

    Wonder if Pak Army will also ask for rest in war against India.

  36. ShahidnUSA says:
    May 23rd, 2011 6:54 am

    The cancer cells in ‘disguise’ have traveled into different parts of the body. They would have to be carefully removed either surgically or medicinally (chemotherapy).

    Without taking the risk of losing its sovereignty, Pakistan would have to come up with its own “precise” technology, spend more time in laboratories, and in research centers and less time in weddings consuming fattening food.

  37. sidhas says:
    May 23rd, 2011 7:16 am

    When are Armed Forces going to dis-associate them from terrorists groups.

    Is it time for them to rise to the occasion.

  38. Amar says:
    May 23rd, 2011 8:45 am

    “Militants” attack?… even Indian media is calling these attackers terrorists. Are you afraid of calling the attackers what they are, or are you just towing the US media line who is calling these attackers “militants”. This is what they did during Mumbai attacks, which were labeled “militant attack” and this is what they are doing now. Even Indian media is giving more coverage to this terror attack than your “videshi bhais”.

  39. Ally says:
    May 23rd, 2011 9:35 am

    This is awful… i feel for the military who are dying all the time, they are the trget of most of the attacks… i think someone must have been involved from the inside, a few bad guys are having all of our good guys being killed…

  40. Adnan says:
    May 23rd, 2011 10:23 am

    Few expats logged in from chilled rooms continue to throw up crap one way or other. Rehman Malik is desparate to associate this attack with Talibans so that he could get back to sleep while this time it seems difficult because the attacked seemed to carried out by missions who are actually made for such attacks. While news resources claiming some “WESTERN” attackers, I would not be surprised if it is found that attacked carried out by US or some other “ally”

  41. ms says:
    May 23rd, 2011 11:10 am

    for those who think RAW or indian authorities are involved in this ….it seems indian authorities cannot even handle an error free list so planning such an operation is clearly beyond them!

    tough times for pakistan ..there is no easy solution ..pain must be felt and any medicine will be bitter – hope for a fast recovery though and better times ahead.

  42. Nihari says:
    May 23rd, 2011 11:14 am

    Sri Lankan team has been invited to play cricket in Pakistan. How can these bloody fool promise to provide fool proof security when they cant save their own behinds. how can fools provide fool proof security?

  43. jock says:
    May 23rd, 2011 11:17 am

    @Adnan

    Could you post these news sources by any chance. I’d love to see the evidence…and please make sure they’re reliable

  44. May 23rd, 2011 11:20 am

    As an Indian I can crow and have a smirk. But as an Indian with service back ground, I feel rather sad and also when i see the comments here. This is an operation by expertly trained commandos (called Militants by western media) and terrorists(by Indian media) and Taliban by Rehman Malik.This abse is highly secured due to the assets it had and also because Chinese were also working here in close coordination with Pakistanies. But still the attackers could breach. This could not be done without some co-operation within the base personnel and that is what worries me as an Indian.I read that some ORs even slapped some officers of Pakistani Army after betrayal of Osama. What worries me is the falling apart of Pakistani nation.

  45. Haider says:
    May 23rd, 2011 11:27 am

    Nihari’s comments must be deleted, its mocking the dua made by the prophet (SAW).

  46. Ali says:
    May 23rd, 2011 11:29 am

    For those idiots who keep saying Pakistan brought this on themselves, even those who accuse the ISI of supporting terrorists say that they support the Afghan Taliban. This attack was done by the TTP. The Army and the ISI, too, hate the Tehrik Taliban Pakistan or the so called “Bad Taliban.”

    Also, stop saying “Pakistan” brought this on themselves. If the accusations against some individuals in the ISI and Army (that they support the Haqqani Network) are true, I don’t see how the rest of us 180 MILLION people (AKA Pakistan) should be held hostage or responsible to this BS. We 180 million people are Pakistan and those few ISI who have supported the Haqqanis are the responsible parties, NOT PAKISTAN.

  47. Ali says:
    May 23rd, 2011 11:46 am

    …Also, this stunning incompetence by our navy must be reviewed. Let’s start cutting some generals pay because they clearly are not doing there job that well.

    Also, this was not our war from the beginning. The US forced Musharraf into this with the whole “your with us or against us.” For this reason, the US must remember that we are owed our aid. Also consider that Pakistan has been given about $18 billion by the US but the war on terror has cost above $43 billion in losses so no ones doing us any big favors.

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/28476/pakistan-lost-43-billion-in-last-nine-years/

    Yet, this is our war now. The military clearly needs to reform its efforts in some way because what’s happening now is not working. This does not equal more money for the military because dirty water, illiteracy, disease, etc still kill way more people than any terrorist, or RAW, or etc, ever have. The military is bloated as is. I’m sure there is space for reform.

  48. Adnan says:
    May 23rd, 2011 12:02 pm

    While launchers targeted P-3Cs, out of them one completely burnt, it can easily be understood who is afraid of Navy capabilities of Pakistan. USA? No. Israel? Nope. Russia? Not at all! It’s none other than India who is the direct beneficiary of this damage. It’s interesting to see why only those planes were targeted first? Pakistan Navy did not have such planes who could carry out operation in deep sea. By attacking these planes could definitely give an edge to Indian Navy who was quite perplexed since the day Pakistan started thinking about it(http://bit.ly/mjBrXC). So pro-Indian apologists who just label anything as conspiracy and swallow anything contains the term “Talibans” are actually on agenda to mislead others while in reality they are mislead by themselves. So whoever carried out the attacks, the people played the front role to give India an edge.

  49. Nishant says:
    May 23rd, 2011 12:31 pm

    @Adnan: Who is the direct beneficiary of attacks on Pakistani soil “from Pakistani soil”? The ex-army chief and dictator who is sitting in exile and wringing his hands to get back in power. who is beneficiary of attacks which show Pakistan’s civilian gov. and present army chief? The ex- army chief who desperately wants to grab the power back.
    India is completely focused on its own growth and development; unlike you who can think only “India, India, India…”. The day you wake up and start thinking only “Pakistan, Pakistan, Pakistan you will start making a difference to your country. Your enemy is not across the border, he is sitting right in your home because he was born and brought up there. Open your eyes and your mind sir, the whole world is developing in a positive way except you and your country. Because you know only one thing, blame others for your plight. apane girhban me jhaank kar dekhiye, saare saanp bichhu wahin baithe hain aur aapko kaat rahe hainm bahar waalon ko fursat nahi aapake baare me baith kar sochane aur waqt gawane ki.

  50. Ali says:
    May 23rd, 2011 12:39 pm

    It’s funny how every relevant institution in Pakistan (army, navy, civilians government, etc) says that this is the work of the TTP, but Adnan still says this is the work of RAW. I got a conspiracy for you. Considering that the military gets so much money every budget in Pakistan because it must be prepared for India, wouldn’t you think that they should come out and scream India did it if that were the case? Transgressions by RAW in many places past and present (Kashmir, Punjab, Northeast, etc) are fine enough to defame the organization if thats whats your looking for. Besides that, you just sound ridiculous.

  51. Amna Zaman says:
    May 23rd, 2011 12:56 pm

    It is important that we work out our relations with US at the moment and utilize all we can to kill the militants in the country. Tragic how they are destroying Pakistan, death to militants!!! 

  52. Khaqan says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:27 pm

    This is for sure Americans. The Orions were equipped with advanced radars, and this was the only effective radar system against any intruders coming into Pakistan.

    They have destroyed it, which means you will not be able to keep minimal surveillance on them. A pure american sponsored move, which is a response to the hitting that took place on their convoy in Peshawar this week.

  53. Salman Pindiwala says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:31 pm

    Anyone who has a little knowledge of these good and bad talibans, can very easily assess who is behind this latest attack.

    The good Taliban, as stated in below comments were “created” by Pakistani agencies in Afghanistan, we all know the reason; The “bad Taliban” are recently created by the troika (now) based in Afghanistan and is currently focusing all of its energies in destabilizing Pakistan. No doubt, men in front are Pakistani nationals, religious and/or ethnic extremists, but their strings are in the hands of this troika which is “investing” huge sums in this game.

    Let’s see what Pakistani players come up with to counter this!

  54. Salman Pindiwala says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:37 pm

    …good to see some Indians comments with “desi” names… :)

  55. Adnan says:
    May 23rd, 2011 1:49 pm

    @Ali: The days direct involvement of RAW are almost over, specially since the day US came in region and “took care” of the work being done by Indians in past. If you read with open eyes I just stated that direct beneficiary of this attack is India only rather than Americans or anyone else. So either it was carried out by TTP or some XYZ, its India who is gonna get ultimate benefit. Kindly use your brain once in a while

    @Nishant: I wish it was true. Keeping the history of making anti-Pakistan movies, media propaganda against Pakistans and even dragging politics by Indians in last World Cup says other wise. The “focused” Indians are so desperate that they could not come up with a genuine list and published a list filled with errors.

  56. Khuram Khan says:
    May 23rd, 2011 2:58 pm

    This has happened in a city which MQM,PPP and ANP claim to be theirs.Such a concentration of weaponery and people could not have gone unnoticed by their followers.So look around and you will find the answer.Surprisingly no one has demanded a boot on Interior Ministers’ behind.

  57. farahshah says:
    May 23rd, 2011 3:21 pm

    “Oh”May God!! please save our Pakistan…..

  58. shahid says:
    May 23rd, 2011 4:28 pm

    A person who is sleeping can be woken but not the one who is pretending to be asleep.
    Will the people stop thinking only in terms of conspiracy of RAW, CIA, Russians, Zionists, Iranians etc.
    They may come out with ludicrous explanations that TTP was “mislaid” and paid by those enemies of Pakistan; otherwise TTP and other all such armed groups as LeT, JUd etc are very pious.

  59. Shez says:
    May 23rd, 2011 5:08 pm

    How come everyone believes India is not involved in this? Even if it is done by TTP, past reports suggest they receive funding from India and other ‘friendly’ countries.

    Orion aircraft is used for sea surveillance and has never been used against the Taliban. What will they get destroying it? There is more than what meets the eye.

    The only downside is that the military establishment is so shameless that it cannot defend its assets. And too coward to spill the beans and take appropriate action both against the attackers and their handlers/supporters.

  60. May 23rd, 2011 5:11 pm

    Well, Taliban are not behind this latest attack for sure. This is not their style neither it’s for their benefit. This is the same style that was used in GHQ attack and the direct beneficiary is India.

  61. Lalit says:
    May 23rd, 2011 5:32 pm

    I am yet to understand the fact that why India is obsessed with pakistan and pakistan is obsessed with India….

    The past is behind us and the future is a big question mark. Well, No comments here as, being an Indian, if I say anything, it will not be taken in the right perspective but I will give everybody a scenario to imagine/visualise/play:-

    Imagine India of 1946 in 2011 but indepent, without partition and imagine the status/share of that country in todays world… We would have been a mammooth unbeatable country with a lion’s share of every aspect/ domain of this world…..

    As the saying goes ‘united we stand, divided we fall’.

    Its been long (64 yrs) that we have been falling and others are taking advantage of us……

    I would say, ‘its time to think out of the box’.

    Thats all. Give peace a chance and let the peace/sanity prevail….

  62. Muhammed Umer Farooq says:
    May 23rd, 2011 7:22 pm

    If the armed forces cannot defend themselves, how can they claim to defend us “bloody civilians”?

  63. Adnan says:
    May 23rd, 2011 8:13 pm

    @Umer Farooq: One of the motive behind such attacks is to create FURTHER NEGATIVE image about Pakistan Armed forces. The things got started when Pakistan Army started killing own people in Tribal Areas and it continues. There should be no doubt that a war on large scale is gonna started in Pakistan and that war would filter our all those cronies who are either in illusion that USA would save us or believe they would run away.

    Pakistan is soon gonna get cleaned from all filth like PPP and others who are still considering US their ally but one should not forget what happened during GUUCI Revolution, Liberals’ Mama US did carpet bombing in cities. At that time liberal phatto were running here and there and they were trying to take shelter behind “Islamists” of that time. Same time is gonna come here soon but this time these phatto would not find any hide at all. The phatto sitting outside would keep singing the song of “Alqaeda is coming” and then would not get a chance to throw up their filth further and would not be able to come back. Pakistan is gonna face further tough days but then we would getrid of all those who think they were born to fulfill others agenda and continue to do anything which could serve Pakistan’s enemies.

  64. Adnan says:
    May 23rd, 2011 8:20 pm

    Indian PM did not waste the opportunity to let the world know that Pakistani nuclear assets are not safe(hence, pls take care of them). I am sure Indian PM were so willing to shoot a statement that he did not even wait for a day. Pressure is building up, the dots are being connected to either attack on Pakistani nukes or take care of them but as Mr.Gul said and I do agree that a desperate Pakistan is more harmful than peaceful Pakistan and if someone tried to grab them then Pakistan would throw few “Danays”[nukes] to the country(ies) who have been disturbing Pakistan or being used by US to destabilize Pakistan. So make no mistake, nukes will be first resort rather than last(Unless and until entire Army is sold out to USA)

  65. azhar says:
    May 23rd, 2011 8:29 pm

    @shez , what nonsense you are talking? India is the main target of pak Taliban and knowing this fact who should fund them,its our fault that we supported them and funded them, there is an old proverb “Who seeds wind, shall harvest storm”

  66. Ravi says:
    May 23rd, 2011 8:51 pm

    As somebody concluded “No common Jihadi can carry out this attack.” so it must be India. This is a great chance for Pakistani government to unmask the shady activities of Indians. If India is indeed involved, Govt of India should definitely pay for the repercussions. Carefully cultivated PR image of that country will come crashing down. Let Pakistani govt. conduct judicial investigation/or with UN or international agencies and come up with a white paper on this incident. People like “Arundati Roys” and other TV media vultures will ensure the collapse of the government. Just go ahead without fear.

    It is surprising to know that extreme right wingers are over estimating the capabilities of good for nothing RAW. Collapse of Pakistan will be suicidal for India and to some extent for China. Manmohan Singh clearly knows this. Pakistan cannot fight this terrible terror war alone. The present generation is paying for the foolishness of the past generation. One of the keys to Pakistan’s liberation is in the hands of Saudis as only they can take back the genie that they let loose for whatever reasons. US ( the real monarch of Saudi Arabia) should do at least one favor to their war on terror ally.

  67. AHsn says:
    May 23rd, 2011 8:53 pm

    “”May Allah Bless Pakistan.”"

    Allah blesses only those who bless themselves!!

    That is why, so far Allah is blessing the terrorists!!

  68. G. Ali says:
    May 23rd, 2011 8:57 pm

    Lalitji,

    There you go again, typical Indian line. Even if a dog dies in Pakistan you guys find a way to blame partition for that. Just imagine this Indian proverb “In France you will find French, in England you will find Britons, in US you will find Americans, but in India you will only find Punjabis, Biharis, Gujratis etc. but no Indians. The only time Indian nation comes into existence is when there is a stupid cricket match against Pakistan”. It is the hatred of Pakistan that has kept India together.

    Friends,
    Frankly speaking I wouldn’t be surprised if India is behind the whole TTP fiasco. They gain most by any Pakistani misfortune.

  69. Asim says:
    May 23rd, 2011 9:34 pm

    Everything changed back when “Khuda Hafiz” became Allah Hafiz, Inshallah, subhan allah, mashallah became part or every other sentence, beards turned pretty human faces into wild animals, miswaak became the status symbol….just giving my two cents!

  70. Shez says:
    May 23rd, 2011 10:37 pm

    @Azhar

    And what are you babbling? Indians are supporting anti-Pakistan elements, including TTP. And how come India is the main target of Pak Taliban? They didn’t launch any attacks there. Even the Mumbai attack, if we assume it was not an inside job, was conducted by LeT, which is not Taliban.

    Pakistani TV channels have shown the pictures of dead terrorists and they do not resemble the Taliban. They were dark complexioned, clean-shaved, and had a military build. Looks more like Indian-trained to me.

  71. May 23rd, 2011 11:27 pm

    This is the latest in the long list of Taliban crimes against the sovereign nation of Pakistan. Did we not just witness the murder of over 90 Frontier Corps Cadets? Taliban have been wreaking havoc on the innocent people of Pakistan and Afghanistan for over a decade. Have we not witnessed them attacking people from all walks of life in their attempt to instill fear and destabilize the nation. Have we not witnessed them attack schools, shopping centers and even mosques and shrines? And now we see them attacking the largest naval base in Pakistan. How can these Taliban terrorists who keep attacking Pakistanis and Pakistani Assets ever be friends of this great nation? They are nothing but insurgents hell bent on destroying the peace loving nation of Pakistan.

    Pakistanis who have any soft corners for these murderers should realize that they are the real enemy who will not stop until they achieve the goal of revenge against Pakistan; and for whom? A terrorist who killed more Muslims then non-Muslims and who was not even a Pakistani. We have said before and we say again that peace in the region can only be achieved when the Taliban & Al-Qaeda terrorists along with their leadership is destroyed. It is time for the Pakistanis who support these terrorists to realize that they are the true enemy and until they are destroyed these attacks will not stop! We have the resolve along with Pakistani forces to focus on and to destroy Taliban and Al-Qaeda enemy and make this world a better and more peaceful place for our future generations.

    CDR Bill Speaks
    DET-United States Central Command
    http://www.centcom.mil/ur

  72. shahid says:
    May 23rd, 2011 11:40 pm

    Success and good fortune has many fathters.
    Who will own this misfortune and failure?

  73. F K says:
    May 24th, 2011 12:17 am

    “Shez: They were dark complexioned, clean-shaved, and had a military build. Looks more like Indian-trained to me.”

    Pakistan’s educational system is in more trouble than I thought.

    So if someone has dark skin and is clean shaven, that “looks like” they are Indian trained to you? You must be one smart cookie.

  74. Shez says:
    May 24th, 2011 12:37 am

    @FK

    I just stated a fact after seeing the pictures on TV.

    What about the education systems of your beloved western countries? People talk about race in those regions all the time. Even they make it a point to describe the color in a crime report.

    And if you are an Indian, the world knows about the blatant racism and discrimination in your country. Spinning won’t work.

  75. Muhammed Umer Farooq says:
    May 24th, 2011 12:41 am

    If 15 militants can do this to one of the most heavily guarded sites of the Pakistani military, imagine what a fully-trained professional army can do.

    For 60 years the generals of Pakistan Army have lived off the money of the people of Pakistan. And this is what they have to show for it.

    The only thing these incompetent generals are good at is “conquering” their own country!

  76. F K says:
    May 24th, 2011 12:44 am

    Shez,
    I’m commenting on your assertion that someone having dark skin and being clean shaven makes them “Indian-trained”. Can you please explain this logic? If you acknowledge that the statement makes absolutely no sense, you can criticize racism and education in the US and India again (throw in Israel too if you want). I’m interested to know how someone’s skin color and/or lack of facial hair can point out where they have been “trained”.

  77. Chandler says:
    May 24th, 2011 1:05 am

    Shez ,r u really ignorant or a utter fool.Thats the problem with people like u,blame everyone except ourself.Open ur eyes and look around,Pakistan does not need external enemies it has enough inside.

  78. Asim says:
    May 24th, 2011 1:09 am

    Waaaah…FK and Shez go after eachother trying to defend their own personal ego while country is in shambles.

  79. Shez says:
    May 24th, 2011 1:19 am

    @F K

    Let me go a notch further. I say they were Indian. What you say now, being their countryman?

    @Asim

    F K does not look like a Pakistani to me, read his comments. I have no intention of continuing this thing. I’ve already made my point.

  80. Adnan says:
    May 24th, 2011 1:28 am


    Allah blesses only those who bless themselves!!
    That is why, so far Allah is blessing the terrorists!!

    My Dear Friend AhSn, do you know what are you saying? By your statement it means that those who are being labeled as “terrorists” are NOT terrorists at all because Allah never support the wrong doing(Unless you believe in something else). Am I not right? *smirk*

    It is interesting to note that all Pee Pee Pee political geadar and liberals declared quite early that India is not involved in it. Haqqani’s wife was cheering up Indians on Twitter by saying that they are not involved in it. How these guys knew India is not involved while even Navy was not sure who attacked them. This attack is really an inside job and this is really our WAR. War against those who are busy in diverting our attention from our traditional enemies like India,US and singing in Chorus what Osama said earlier that Pakistan should not be worried about India. Pakistanis re at war against such elements. So be it TTP or PPP, the supporters of both and their main funding channels must be destroyed.

  81. F K says:
    May 24th, 2011 1:35 am

    Asim,
    I think that tackling this line of thinking (that anything done in Pakistan is the work of Americans/Israelis/Indians) is an important step in order to understand what/who our true enemy is. It is an unfortunate reality that many many Pakistanis refuse to look at these militant groups as the enemy and will defend them to this day by saying that attacks are the works of foreign intelligence agencies. Until we all understand that these militant groups will destroy our entire country and that they can never ever be “strategic assets” or “good Muslims” we will never be able to tackle this menace.

    If Pakistan is burning today, it is only because we have kept saying that RAW and MOSSAD are behind terrorism in our country instead of addressing the issue head-on (the recent wikileaks disclosures about Pakistan say a lot about both our politicians and our army and how they are playing the people for fools). If you think this is about my ego, you are sadly mistaken my friend. I don’t need to protect my ego by anonymously posting to a blog. The Taliban killed 80 cadets last week and attacked a naval base yesterday destroying millions of dollars worth of equipment and there are people who still will not accept that they are the biggest threat to the country.
    Your comment that we are arguing while Pakistan is burning is cynical. If I stopped arguing would Pakistan stop burning? Or I could say, why are you posting a comment while Pakistan is burning? What do you think the point of a comments section on this blog is anyway?

  82. F K says:
    May 24th, 2011 1:47 am

    Shez,
    Thanks for making your point…which was what exactly? That people who are dark skinned and clean shaven are trained in India (and the ones with light skin and beards were trained by Castro maybe?). Oh and that you are a very intelligent person and anyone who disagrees with you is an Indian or paid by Mossad. I ask you how you can look at someone and tell where they are trained, and your response was that there is racism in America in filing police reports, that Indian society is based on racism and that I am an Indian (after first calling me a westerner). I think there is an Imran Khan rally going on that you would be a perfect fit at. Have fun. There will be many other intellectual heavyweights like yourself over there.

  83. Shez says:
    May 24th, 2011 2:15 am

    @F K

    Spin and hoodwink as best as you can. That’s the best your type can does. Oh, and you made a wrong assumption. I do not ascribe to Imran Khan’s ideology. Happy spinning!

  84. Shez says:
    May 24th, 2011 2:24 am

    @ F K

    And you are as far removed from reality that you do not even know that Imran Khan’s rally ended more than 24 hours ago. Speaks volume.

  85. Mike says:
    May 24th, 2011 3:26 am

    Someone please explain me this “martyr” business. Does anyone just die or get killed in Pakistan anymore?

    Is there a litmus test to be qualified as a martyr?

  86. Asim says:
    May 24th, 2011 3:33 am

    Why is our media not doing anything creative to unite Pakistanis?

  87. Asim says:
    May 24th, 2011 3:39 am

    @ Mike. This totally depends on whose side you are on. Martyr to one side may be terrorist to the other and vice versa.

    The biggest problem is there is no tunnel in sight, so light at end of the tunnel is unimaginable. When desperate people are so broken and hopeless, they can be easily excited just by the mere thought of heaven and its supposed offerings….they so want to get out of their current stage, that convincing them to go on a suicide mission is something that anyone, much less a mullah can do.

  88. Asim says:
    May 24th, 2011 3:47 am

    Addendum to my last post:

    Desperate people in my last post can be defined as lazy people who think working their way to achieve success that they deserve is too difficult for them. So they are taking a shortcut to reach their ultimate end quicker.

    As for how anyone one can convince these lazzy asses that the idea of heaven and hell was created to control and manipulate the minds population with very little or no additional effort,

  89. ali hamdani says:
    May 24th, 2011 12:06 pm

    No doubt. This was a big tragedy. It is important that we fight militancy in Pakistan and also support our allies who are in the same direction and us.

  90. Shafiq says:
    May 24th, 2011 1:13 pm

    @ Asim

    You are 100% correct when you state “Everything changed back when “Khuda Hafiz” ….” and we are all to blame for this.

    It is regretted that the media in Pakistan is only interested in sensitisation instead of diverting some energy towards changing uneducated peoples mindset in a subtle manner that takes a nation forward.

    We have self-serving hypocrite dual national politicians who are only interested in retaining their power base, accumulate and hoard as much as they can and in the process promote extremisms.

  91. shahid says:
    May 24th, 2011 5:42 pm

    Would an Indian agent carrying out terrorist act in Pakistan look typical Indian – dark skinned and clean shaven etc.?
    It is a matter of common sense, friends.
    Anyway the debate is quite hilarious and entertaining.
    Keep it up

  92. FreeFromFear says:
    May 24th, 2011 6:38 pm

    Time to free ourselves from ‘Arab religion’….it is not ours and why do we need this antiquated thinking where it is ok to have lots of wives(SEX) and talk incessantly about the afterlife. The bombers are kids who dreams about virgins in heavens while their trainers have multiples wives (SEX) in this life.

    What happened to us where critical thinking and questioning can get you killed?

  93. Nou says:
    May 24th, 2011 7:02 pm

    Allah Pakistan Army Officers kay plots aur shadi halls ko salaamat rakhay.

  94. Akif Nizam says:
    May 24th, 2011 7:41 pm

    If you have to read only one article about the psycopathy that is Pakistan, read this:

    http://www.3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2011/05/pakistan-the-narratives-come-home-to-roost-by-omar-ali-.html

  95. Khuram Khan says:
    May 24th, 2011 9:38 pm

    Read this
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/dec/01/pakistan.iraq
    and this
    http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/05/globalists-pakistan-war-plan.html
    and makeup your mind. The minions to do the dirty job are plenty around us.

  96. NIhari says:
    May 24th, 2011 9:41 pm

    http://cafepyala.blogspot.com/2011/05/security-lapse-what-security-lapse.html?spref=fb

    Thanks to Habib Sulaimani

    God Almighty! Generals fake
    They’ve put country at stake
    Generals mean personal gain
    The armed forces’re in pain!

    Generals’re bloody fool
    Take a bath an’ be cool!

    Military men’re public servants
    Not masters from the heavens!
    But they’re arrogant an’ cruel
    Don’t care for common people

    Generals’re bloody fool
    Take a bath an’ be cool!

    You own huge firms an’ agriland
    Turning country into terrorland!
    No-one among you bothers at all
    Where the terrified people stand!

    Suffering from the Kakul Syndrome
    You’re always out—even if at home
    By providing terrorists sanctuary
    You’ve failed to protect country

    Still you behave like intellectuals
    Not men behind petty squabbles!
    You’ve lost every single battle
    Yet foolishly believe: you rattle!

    Generals’re bloody fool
    Take a bath an’ be cool!

    After failure on geographical borders
    You champion ideological frontiers
    It’s easy to fight on ambiguous front
    Cos you like a lavish bedroom stint!

    Using a pawn religious leader
    Or an ISI-paid TV anchor
    You can make storm in teacup
    Change system—down to up!

    The generals’ve taken refuge
    In ideological war an’ abuse!
    Don’t try to fool world anymore!
    Don’t you see outside an uproar?

    Generals’re bloody fool
    Take a bath an’ be cool!

    See the writing on the wall
    Only you’re sick not we all
    The military is vanguard
    Of a scary fanatic world!
    The nation wants to know your aim
    You’ve multiplied the double game!

    You’re soldiers or businessmen?
    Playing tricks on the politician!
    You didn’t defend country borders
    With broken oath, you’re traitors!

    There is no escape from the law
    Dug earth with your filthy paw!
    You can’t deceive the tax payers
    God has heard people’s prayers!

    You’ve lied to the nation
    Not once, again an’ again
    You’ve neither mind nor a soul
    An’ you’re always playing foul!

    Generals’re bloody fool
    Take a bath an’ be cool!

    It’s time to take a dose of wisdom!
    Stop violation of our basic freedom
    Respect democracy at home
    Or face the doom an’ gloom!

  97. Asim says:
    May 24th, 2011 9:46 pm

    GHQ, Abbotabad, Karachi….. Three major security lapses, yet not one minister, general, admiral. or air-marshal has picked up his gun and shot himself in the head for sake of his own dignity and honor!

  98. Adnan says:
    May 25th, 2011 12:11 am

    @FreeFromFear: Islam provides more critical thinking than any other religion on earth. If interested then contact me offline so that I could educate you about that.

    @Khurram: The guardian link you sent is not new but yes its getting more relevant day by day. Imagine after so much effort Americans and Indians find out that there was no Atom bomb and Pakistanis fooled themselves. How funny it would be. Because I feel that there is no atom shatom bomb and these guys are just fooling entire world.

  99. Asim says:
    May 25th, 2011 10:58 am

    The comment by the Indian Walking By is very instructive and shows the sheer inhumanity of Indians and the hatred they have in them.

  100. Khuram Khan says:
    May 25th, 2011 12:19 pm

    Could ATP ADMINISTRATOR enlighten us as to how NIhari post was processed?

  101. Adnan says:
    May 26th, 2011 1:44 am

    Despite of all whining and propaganda by liberals and Pee Pee Pee supporters, things are otherwise. Navy is realizing something else but since this is not done by Alqaeda hence Pakistani establishment will keep hiding it.

    I wonder whether our lion, Mr.Najam would like to take his words back calling our neighbors as “Millitants”? *grin*

    bit.ly/ipeyBz and bit.ly/lt69TB

  102. Abdul Hai says:
    May 26th, 2011 6:48 am

    Two years back, I met a Pakistani military officer (engineer) in Washington DC while attending a course for protecting buildings to resist bomb blasts. I was astonished to learn that he did not have basic knowledge of the subject and was incharge of protection of military infrastructure. According to him, the only protection utilized is sealing the area surrounding the buildings.

  103. Hussain Qamar says:
    May 27th, 2011 3:58 am

    Two tragedies here.
    One was the attack.
    Second were the comments. Seems like enemies of Pakistan are succeeding in turning Pakistanis against Pakistan.

  104. MUNIB says:
    May 27th, 2011 8:59 pm

    I am sorry to say but this is the ugly reality :

    Its payback time for PAKISTAN. The monsters they created with the help of CIA have come back home. Bad luck

  105. Ahmer says:
    May 28th, 2011 3:52 am

    I am not a supporter of military in politics and have been against each martial law, but I feel quite sick reading the anti-military hatred. No society can stand without the military-civil relationship based on respect. I think both military and civil in Pakistan needs to think about this.

  106. Noman says:
    May 29th, 2011 3:06 am

    Times are bad. But we must not get depressed. This is the time to rise, not to cry.

  107. Mohammed says:
    May 30th, 2011 7:15 am

    Why Nawaz Sharif is not coming clean with his secret shady connections to Osama Bin Laden ? Where was his concern for Pakistani sovereignty when he begged and received money from Osama Bin Laden, a Saudi foreigner, to fight Benazir Bhutto in the elections?

    By his actions and short sighted collaborations with extremists, Nawaz Sharif has insulted and harmed the Pakistani nation and it’s people. Pakistanis should kick out the likes Nawaz Sharif and his brother Shahbaz Sharif from politics.

  108. Bangash says:
    May 30th, 2011 3:04 pm

    That total failure General Pasha is still hanging on at ISI. What an incompetent, unprofessional and shameless man.

  109. Saleem says:
    June 4th, 2011 1:01 am

    Pakistan is at a turning point. These events could mean blowup of Pakistan but could also mean a revitalization. I hope it is a new start after this old is taken down.

  110. Sana says:
    June 13th, 2011 1:26 pm

    We will look back at this as one of the turning points in how military-civil relations develop.

  111. Ikram says:
    June 19th, 2011 10:58 pm

    Things are certainly bad but there are rays of hope. None has inspired me more recently than the fact that you (Adil Najam) are moving back. I am hoping that this is an early sign of springs to come. Pakistan zindabad.

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