Adil Najam
Har saal yeh samajh kay guzara hai aye Saba
Yeh ishq ki saddi mein adawat ka saal tha
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Fatima
I havn’t seen any mullah telling anyone to kill himself and others as well in the name of religion. What you say is hearsay and propaganda as shown on TV. Poverty is surely a big problem but poverty is an old existing condition. I do not recall anyone committing suicide in the name of religion just for the sake of poverty. There is certainly some other ‘provocation’ which causes a person to give up his life without caring for the lives of others. It seems that a suicide bomber avenges himself by taking lives of others in his leap toward death. If poverty was the reason for suicide bombing then why don’t we see this phenomena in poorer countries of the world such as Africa. Nay, it’s not poverty alone which plays the havoc. It is the attitude of a nation towards other nation , an attitude of people toward other people. It is the policy of interference in others business. The developed countries watch others by their standards; they try to emphasize their values and norms on others and that brings trouble. You will note that there has been a row over women wearing scarves
in France and wearing scarves there is legally banned. I don’t understand why would an educated and civilized nation like France try to impose its choicest restrictions on this issue. This is what I call policy of interference. The Talibans were also doing the same to a greater extent. But since they were poor and weak the tougher nations took to exterminating them. That’s mean of them. One man’s meat is poison for the other. Let us keep to our business and refrain from interfering in others business. Unless we have a broader outlook towards the likes and dislikes of others we cannot imagine to have peace in this world. The suicide bombers claim to be in a state of war against aggressors and in their fancy or belief , whatever, they think it right to commit suicide against the stronger enemy and anyone who comes in their way. Why do you forget that even a trained army would kill innocent civilians,,,,,men, women and children……indiscriminately in times of war? Do you think the suicide bombers as they are called are doing worse than the US having dropped A-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WW2? There is turmoil in the world and somebody or something provocative is there to blame for ,,,,,apart from the suicide bombers !
Mazhar Butt,
911 was completely different and you can’t even compare that to the suicide bombings of today. It was planned and carried out by educated men and the suicide bombings are not planned in such great detail and have become fairly common these days. What I’m trying to explain here is the same concept as “religion is the opium of the people”. These people do suffer from poverty and yes they’re not entirely happy with their lives but I think that madrassahs or the clergy (or some leader of some clan in the villages) are propagating this idea that suicide bombings are Islamic and if you die in the name of your religion you are a martyr and that gets you into heaven (one reason several bombers say allah o akbar while bombing people–so unfortunate). What these people forgot to tell these young kids is that if you kill several innocent people along with yourself you’re probably going straight to hell.
Adnan,
No you do not have the right to defend your Mohalla by killing 40 other people with you. How can you justify violence like that? If we continue to do that, then the next time someone from your mohalla upsets someone from other mohalla the other mohall supposedly has the right to blow your mohalla up? We’d just end up blowing each other up. Seriously guys, there is a better (and more civilized way) to do this. Who have protests, and walks, you write in the papers, you appeal to the public to support you and you appeal to the law (my confidence in the Pakistani judiciary has increased several fold in the light of recent events: the reinstatement of Justice Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudry). But since when did violence become the answer?
How could you convince any one even a 13 year kid that committing suicide will fetch him paradise? Who has seen paradise? this is a mere assumption which was used as a tool during the crusades by the Christian clergy. Life is precious to all, even a 13 year old kid. So, there is more than that which instigates a suicide bomber to blow himself off. In psychological terms suicide is the height of desperation and the ultimate result of hopelessness or depression. I don’t think the suicide bombers are depressed. they volunteer to blow themselves off and kill others as a show of protest. Afterall , what else a weaker victim could do? Education is not the deciding factor: all those whose brought about the 9/11 tragedy were highly educated men, professionals. I think the conduct of suicide bombers is the last resort he opts for against oppression. Hence, the best policy would be: not to poke your nose into someone elses business !
@fatima:
I disagree with Umar’s point of view tht they have always been around. This is something which I used to hear on FOX,CNN etc.
Fatima I ask you something, people in my area have been living peacefully along with people of other mohalla. If someone from other mohalla becomes a macho man and start hurting people of my area so if people of my mohalla react then would they be called “Terrorist”? I along with others have rigt to defend my mohalla people. Do remember that todays terrorists are eysterdays mojahid. The recent wave of violence is nothing bue to gov’s dishonest move that they violated peace treaty first and then installed security forces and all was done because Uncle sam was not happy with treaty. People in FATA and associated areas never accepted the rulership of outsiders over them and no invader sustained a long time in that area. Current condition of NATO forces is the example of that they failed to rule over them too.
Okay I have to disagree. Religion is something for which anyone can give up anything. As Muslims we sacrifice our wealth, our happiness and a lot of other things for God. These people are uneducated. If someone says to them that you need to sacrifice your life for Islam and that is what will get you into heaven they probably believe them. Its not because they are aggrieved its because they know no better. There no trauma or mental agony. Some of these kids are as young as 13. You think they feel strongly about these things? Of course not. For them suicide bombing is a sure way to heaven and who doesn’t want that. That’s all there is to it. Frankly I think religion has been abused to death. It has been used to manipulate people who do not know any better and its unfortunate. If they were educated even about our own religion they would know that Islam is completely against suicide bombings and they wouldn’t think that that’s what gets them to heaven.
That said, there is a much bigger problem that we have to worry about: American power and influence and their possible invasion. It haunts me everyday that America would suddenly make it their business to get the al-Qaeda out of Pakistan and use that as an excuse to invade Pakistan. We’ll just be another Iraq, where American soldiers torture innocent civilians while the American Government continues to use up the country’s resources. That I feel is a more imminent threat and the question is: what do we do about it?
Akif,,,,,,tell me which third world country is not funded by petrodollars? Death is death whether it’s suicide or suicide bombing. The only difference is that one comes in solitude while the other comes with a bang. Now, have you ever thought why people commit suicide bombings? No one is mad enough to give u his life for trifles. Then there sure is something , something most unbearable and frustrating which makes one decide to take away his own life with revenge on others. I say unless the grievances of the suicide bombers are not redressed there’s going to be no peace in the world. Suicide bombing is the last resort which a weaker enemy launches against his powerful enemies. Suicide bombing is not typical of muslims to be ashamed of ,,,,,the Japanese, the Tamils, the Buddhists etc have been practicing it since centuries as a part of their religious and national duty. If you don’t like the creed of the suicide bombers or theso called fundamentalist you should also not expect them to yield to your way of thinking or rationale. You don’t seem to have passed through any mental trauma to realize the problem of the agrieved. I have experiences such pain and agony at the hands of my fellow citizens and frankly I had sometimes felt so fed up and mentally tortured that a little exhortation would have made me do anything. So, my dear don’t take things so easy ,,,,try to eradicate the causes of this mental dilemma and suggest ways to resolve it. Just saying that these suicide bombers or their perpetrators are not patriots is totally wrong. The question is what made these patriotic people of yore to act as they are wont to do now and unless their trouble s are redressed. Think !
To those who will make the naive argument that this is all a reaction to the Lal Masjid, let me say that thsi is all planned. This was obviously planned well in advance. people were obviously trained. They obviously had weapons and explosives. They were waiting for an excuse and made the Lal Masjid an excuse. A reaction is when you do something you would not have done otherwise because something happens. Reactions are not planned. These are clearly planned and to blame it simply on Lal Masjid is to miss the real issue which is that we have tolerated people who advocate violence as a solution for too long.
More than 56 people dead only today in these three suicide murders.
I guess we will have the usual suspects appear here soon trying to suggest these were planned by Musharraf himself and the religious extremists and mullahs who glamorise suicide killings had nothing to do with this!