ATP Poll: Pakistan After Musharraf

Posted on August 18, 2008
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UPDATE: Gen. Musharraf has just announced his resignantion during a nationally televised address. Read more here.

ORIGINAL POST:

Gen. Pervez Musharraf is slated to the address the nation in a televised address at 1PM PST today (Monday, August 18, 2008). Leading newspapers, such as The News and Dawn, are reporting that he is likely to announce his resignation and TV News channels are doing the same; indeed some have started running film summaries of his tenure as President as if his departure is already a done deal.

It may well be so. But given that this is Pakistan and this is Gen. Pervez Musharraf, one must never rule out the likelihood of surprises.



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According to Dawn:

President Pervez Musharraf is to address the nation on Monday afternoon, his spokesman told AFP, while dismissing rumours that he had resigned to avoid impeachment. “The president will address the nation at 01:00pm (0700 GMT),” said retired Major General Rashid Qureshi, the chief presidential spokesman. Asked about local television reports that Musharraf had already resigned in the face of attempts by the governing coalition to impeach him, the spokesman replied, “It is all nonsense.” Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi said it appeared that Musharraf had “seen the writing on the wall” but did not say if he knew what the president was planning to announce. “He is a wise man, he is a very experienced man and he has seen the writing on the wall,” Qureshi told Dawn News television when asked if he had confirmation that Musharraf had resigned. “He has seen the sentiments of not just the elected representatives, but various institutions… who all asked him to move in a particular way and do not destabilize things here,” he said. Pakistan People’s Party spokesman Farhatullah Babar said: “His political fate has been sealed. Whatever he says doesn’t matter.”

[Strong] speculation is that Gen. Musharraf will use this speech to resign from the office of President, that a ‘deal’ has already been reached – which includes three elements: (a) that he resigns and no formal impeachment is carried out, (b) that he is given a broad amnesty against legal action against him, and (c) he is provided some form of ‘safe passage.’

My own sense is that if he does make the planned speech he will use it to describe, defend and detail what he considers to be the “achievements” of his tenure as President. While a formal “charge sheet” against him may never be tabled in Parliament, he will use this speech to answer the charges that have been and are being made against him. Expect, then, a speech that lists what he things he has achieved and responds to the lists of what his distractors say he has failed to do. This he will certainly do.

At the end of all this (a) he could say that although he has done his very best and beyond, in the interest of the country he will leave the office of the President so that the opposition to his person does not impede national progress; or (b) he could say that since he is proud of what he has achieved he will, like a good commando, fight to the very end because that is what is in the interest of the country. No matter which course he chooses, this will be one of the most important (if not the most important) speech of his life.

Given the way things stand right now it is more likely than not that he will take something akin to the first course. But even if he does not, it is quite clear that he is on his way out. If not today, then soon. If not through impeachment, then through resignation.

The question uppermost on most Pakistani minds is no longer whether Gen. Pervez Musharraf is on his way out. It is, what will happen to Pakistan after he leaves? Will everything become perfectly good once he is gone? Will things become not perfect but better? Will things becomes even worse? What do you think?

61 Comments on “ATP Poll: Pakistan After Musharraf”

  1. AI says:
    August 18th, 2008 2:05 am

    After Musharraf, I would want to get rid of Zardari.

  2. Rahim says:
    August 18th, 2008 2:11 am

    May allah Save pakistan now …. bcz he was our last hope … just think every party that comes in after election tries to buld thier pockets .. musharaf did some bad things .. but still he was an angel amongst all the thieves ..

  3. ASAD says:
    August 18th, 2008 2:23 am

    Adil, your caution is well considered. I am not at all sure that he will resign in this speech. This topi drama can still draw out for much longer.

    The question you ask in the poll is the right one. I don’t care much about what happens to Musharraf or Zardari or Sharif. But I care about what happens to Pakistan. Personally, I think that nothing will improve or worsen. Faces will change and things will remain like always before.

  4. Aamir Ali says:
    August 18th, 2008 2:55 am

    Musharraf has been devoid of power since February, so you know what will happen to Pakistan: it will go back to the 1990′s where we have a civilian govt which engages only in politics, and does nothing else.

    Musharraf was a courageous and good leader. He made some major mistakes in 2007 with chief justice and emergency, but overall I salute his efforts.

  5. August 18th, 2008 2:57 am

    The news so far is mixed. Im quoting from a discussion list which carries some reports

    Version 1 : PML-Q source
    Musharraf to dissolve assemblies, restore judges, call for fresh elections and resign.

    Version 2: Media Source
    Musharraf to resign today. However he is expected to stay in Army House for some time until he feels he should go and/or is forced to go.

    Version 3: PPP Source
    Mush to resign and leave for Saudia for 3 months.

    Also in the air : No resignation. Sirf topi drama !

    So the rumor mill is basically whatever you want to believe – moments before the kick off brace yourself Pakistan

  6. Hilal says:
    August 18th, 2008 3:33 am

    Musharaf vs Nawaz, Zardari, Mullah Fazal Rahman and Asfandiyar Wali (Coalition Partners)

    NAWAZ – Capitalist, having Inferiority complex (hair transplant), the most egoist person and Amir ul Momineen!

    ZARDARI

  7. AAA says:
    August 18th, 2008 3:38 am

    he is speaking on TV now. You got it exactly right. He is going through all his “achievemnts”.

    Seems like he will resign. Right now he is talking about his government in the PAST tense.

  8. Edward says:
    August 18th, 2008 3:39 am

    The fat man has put the country to sleep with his laundry-list-accomplishment speech. Now lets see if the “patriot” stays in Pakistan or gets on a jet plane to somewhere far away.

  9. Abbas says:
    August 18th, 2008 3:50 am

    The video of the speech is available at:
    http://vidpk.com/view_video.php?vid=15400

  10. mahrukh says:
    August 18th, 2008 3:52 am

    I agree with rahim…i don’t want him to resign…can you imagine the vultures that are just waiting for him to step away!
    Zardari-Nawaz will destroy whatever is left of our country!…May Allah save Pakistan…(ameen)

  11. AAA says:
    August 18th, 2008 4:00 am

    CONGRATULATIONS, PAKISTAN.

    HE IS LEAVING….

    He just said… “This is not the time for bravado”

  12. AAA says:
    August 18th, 2008 4:05 am

    THERE YOU HAVE IT… HE HAS RESIGNED!!!!!!!

    MUSHARRAF IS GONE!

    NOW, LETS HOPE THE FUTURE WILL BE BETTER!

  13. Aamir Ali says:
    August 18th, 2008 4:11 am

    I salute Mr Musharraf, a great leader who made a few mistakes.

  14. Usman says:
    August 18th, 2008 4:25 am

    All those fools who thought Musharaf was the problem, will realise now.

    This was one man who bled for Pakistan and what a reward!

  15. faisal says:
    August 18th, 2008 4:27 am

    Sad sad day for Pakistan.

    He was best thing that happened to Pakistan for many years. Who cares he was an army man, he was the only one who cared for Pakistan and did something for the country.

    Mr. President, people of Karachi are proud of you, you are our hero, we salute you. Good luck to you and your family.

  16. Eidee Man says:
    August 18th, 2008 4:28 am

    Finally. I wish he had shown this humility a couple of years earlier, before he committed 90% of his blunders. Before 2007, many of us, myself included, thought that despite his indiscretions, he had Pakistan’s best interests at heart. But now this cannot really be termed a resignation, he knew full well that he was completely cornered.

    I’m not sure what will transpire in the coming weeks and months, but I hope the coalition will restore the judiciary and actually BEGIN to do the nation’s work and put this nonsense aside.

  17. Toogy says:
    August 18th, 2008 4:33 am

    > MUSHARAF

  18. Janeeta says:
    August 18th, 2008 4:34 am

    The only hope we have to save this country from Mr. 10% and the Amir-ul-Momineen has now resigned. The history shows what this country has suffered in the past democratic spells so may be i want Kiyani to take charge … a far better choice then the whole lot of politicians we have

  19. Janeeta says:
    August 18th, 2008 4:40 am

    quite an interesting poll results … most of the people here are happy that finally Mr. Musharraf has gone but still more than half of the people voted think that his resignation will make things worst … what sort of hypocrisy is this?

  20. Rizwan says:
    August 18th, 2008 4:48 am

    These Pakistani got they deserve they Have Zardari.

  21. Rizwan says:
    August 18th, 2008 4:51 am

    Lets move on now all the media and politicians lets take care of the country. Watch media they have nothing to say before Lal Masjid Incident. Lal Masjid gave a way to enemy of Pakistan to attack this patriot Pakistani.

  22. Qasim Hussain says:
    August 18th, 2008 4:52 am

    Very impressed by your analysis.

    You seem to have predicted exactly what he would say, how and why and what he would do. Good analysis.

    Good survey question also. Janeeta, there is no hypocrisy here. I myself am very happy that he is leaving but I really don’t think that things will get better. I just hope they will become no worse! At least this personal tension between the power centers will finish off.

  23. Riz says:
    August 18th, 2008 4:58 am

    Sad day for Pakistan.

    Now wait for Mr. 10 % to become Mr. 90 % and Mr. Amir-ul-Momineen to make Pakistan as Talibinistan.

    Its is true that Leaders of a nations are mirror image of the nation.

  24. Wajid says:
    August 18th, 2008 5:26 am

    Turns out that the immediate reaction of the market is that the KSE has risen by 4 percent and the ruppee has become stronger against the dollar.

  25. Wajid says:
    August 18th, 2008 5:26 am

    By the way, what is the word and news about safe passage?

    Where will he go?

  26. Aamir Ali says:
    August 18th, 2008 5:32 am

    Toogy:

    I think its the anti-Musharraf ppl who are brainwashed. Musharraf brought democracy, economy growth and empowerement of minorites and women to the country. He confronted the most evil ppl in pakistan be they religious extremists or Baloch warlords. It is his misfortune and that of Pakistan that the Pakistani public prefers conspiracies and baloney to facts and realities.

    however now that Musharraf is gone, your theory of Musharraf being the problem and lush gardens to bloom as soon as Musharraf leaves, will be put to the test.

  27. Usman says:
    August 18th, 2008 5:45 am

    @Aamir Ali, He was last man standing.
    After years of arguing with people I have today accepted that our people are like Kufar-e-Makkah, No matter how much truth they were told, they will still follow the lies. Even well educated people fail to see the difference between a person who honestly wants to do something for the nation and people like Nawaz who are mean and have put revenge with Musharaf before the country’s interests.

    With thugs in power now, I see no more hope for Pakistan.

  28. Toogy says:
    August 18th, 2008 7:01 am

    > Musharraf brought democracy

    Hahhahah! Thanks for the laugh.

    I don’t believe any politician will bring democracy to Pakistan, but Musharraf is the worst of the bunch.

    Were you sleeping the whole time he sacked the judges and the judiciary, beat up the media (and dares to say he made the “media free”), imprisoned the Chief Justice and his family and all the other atrocities this dictator performed?

    Please wake up now that Musharraf has left! This was Allah’s decision and who are you to question him? Pray for forgiveness.

    Khuda Hafiz.

  29. zia m says:
    August 18th, 2008 8:08 am

    Historic day for Pakistan!
    For the first time in the history of Pakistan the democratic forces has prevailed over military dictatorship.
    I have great admiration for the people of Pakistan and like to congratulate them for a GREAT VICTORY.
    Time and again common Pakistanis have proved they are much
    smarter than the elitist.

  30. akraam khan says:
    August 18th, 2008 8:16 am

    Is he a stooge?

  31. Sana says:
    August 18th, 2008 8:19 am

    With M resigning I hope our politicians have lost their final excuse to not get anything done in the country.
    Mr Sharif should also remember that the only reason why he is alive is b/c Musharaff did agree to have him sent into exile. Our past military leaders had not been that kind, so he should put a stop to his daily rants about no indemnity. He forgets that he may not like musharaff, but there are still a lot of people out there who may not have wanted him in power, but hold no grudges against him.. God help Pakistan..

  32. Farooq Siddiqui says:
    August 18th, 2008 9:42 am

    Toogy said “Were you sleeping the whole time he sacked the judges and the judiciary, beat up the media (and dares to say he made the

  33. Obaid Ur Rehman says:
    August 18th, 2008 11:49 am

    Well another patriotic Pakistani leader resigned today! Now while he is gone whats gona collation do ??? Ther is no Musharaf! lets see how things get better! I wish Prosperity for Pakistan….but dont see it in near Future or long! God Bless Pakistan. We dint care for the one we had! God Bless Musharaf may he Live long with great health and Honor “Saab Say Phalay Pakistan”

  34. Akhtar says:
    August 18th, 2008 11:58 am

    Mr. Musharff is gone. This is not the time to rejoice or distribute sweets as is the practice. One must do soem sole aerching. The country is in the hands of those who have checkered and tainted characters. If we are expecting some thing to come out of these people, we may living in Alice and Wonderland. There will be fight(s) between Sahrifs and Zardari for the positions, titles,goodies at the expense of the poor Pakistani, who have been suffering for last 60 years. This will continue. What Pakistan and Pakistanis need is ” a few honest, sincere, simple” persons who will do things for the betterment of the country and not for self or family (ies).

    I am not holding my breath. Things will get worst before there is a chance for it to get better. Just hope for the best and prey.

  35. Jalal HB says:
    August 18th, 2008 12:01 pm

    So the hype is over – the stocks are back (it is our money we care afterall) and with the xodus of another president (reminds me of a similar speech by President ayub Khan back in 1969), the playing fied is now open for all and sundry – the 10 – 90 % and the makers of motorways, and our poor foreign exchange reserves which were built up to record 17 billions which will now be gone in days not even weeks.

    How unfortunate we are – we use emotions not logic, we display personalities and not character. Today we have one less man of character. How very unfortunate.

  36. ali raza says:
    August 18th, 2008 12:45 pm

    Wajid, this is an irrational rally. I’d be buying dollars at these lower prices and dumping rupee and shorting weak scripts. Tomorrow, it’s going to be back to reality. And the reality is our downward spiral.

  37. Saeed Malik says:
    August 18th, 2008 3:58 pm

    Goodbye Musharraf. We are grateful to you for what you have contributed for the betterment of the land of pure. Please don’t think we all are a bunch of ungrateful turncoats. Though I know that we are a characterless people, corrupt to the nails, indifferent to sensitivities, hypocrites, without conscience, mostly illiterates. We are self destrutive, deprived of wisdom to judge what is good for us and what is bad. Don’t be disheartened, stay steadfast and expect your reward only from Allah. We are blind; we have never learned from history and, in fact, we have distorted history. I ask people of Pakistan a question. What good you think it would do to solicit resignation of the President? Is he the only evil on our soil? Is Musharraf our problem? For god sake what has happened to our common sense? Don’t we know our problems? Are you going to be contended with the ouster of Musharraf? Aren’t you looking forward to something worthehile? Like education and health? For god’s sake wake up! Do some soul searching. Ask yourself a question, ” Am I doing what all is required of me”? If your conscience responds well you should have hope.If not, bring about a change in your attitude (of course this applies to me too). To the politicians I would say, Pakistan is not your personal property. People of Pakistan expect from you something good this time. Don’t waste your time and energy on something as trivial as ouster of the President. Aim high. Let us have ourselves incuded as a progressive people in the comity of nation. God has given you an opportunity again. If you squander this too and continue indulging in loot and plunder, HE WILL PUNISH YOU. “Khuda karay keh nah kham ho sar-e-waqar-e-watan Is kai husn ko tashweesh-e-mah-o-saal nah ho”

  38. Asfand says:
    August 18th, 2008 4:49 pm

    Musharraf chala giya

    aur ab

    do dakoo a gaye haiN Pakistan ka bera gharq karne ke liye.

    Dakoo a gaye maidan maiN
    Ho Jamalo Ho Jamalo

  39. Saadullah says:
    August 18th, 2008 4:52 pm

    Great post by Saeed. I think it sums up a lot of peoples sentiments. I think Mushi made a few mistakes, but he was by far the one beacon of light in clouded future. The answer to the success of Pakistans future lies with the people of Pakistan. We need to rally amongst each other to really make the changes. We cannot let the leaders dictate our actions, but take it upon ourselves to be better children of our nation. Just give a little back everyday, or try to do something for your country that is selfless – be it donate to a school or hospital. It can make all the difference for the future.

  40. ali says:
    August 18th, 2008 6:53 pm

    The feudal lords are back in power to suck up what is left of the country. HALLELUJAH

  41. Jiala says:
    August 19th, 2008 12:44 am

    Welcome to Demon-cracy !!

  42. Usman Ghani Rathore says:
    August 19th, 2008 1:13 am

    He was a good man, and I personally believe a real loyalist in Pakistan. Now its a realization to me why Pakistan is strugglling and striving for excellence. We Pakistanis are ignorant enough to recognize the Loyalists of Pakistan. I am personally ashamed. Things will go down day by day.

    Salutes to the General!

  43. Adonis says:
    August 19th, 2008 1:42 am

    It was a great day for the people of Pakistan. The will of people finally prevailed.

    There is no dearth of “overseas” Pakistanis far removed from the ground realities of Pakistan who consider mush their hero and are lamenting that the Pakistani people are now at the mercy of “corrupt” politicians. To them I would say, “Thanks for your concern, but no thanks.”

    We would rather have corrupt politicians ruling this country who have to come back to us in five years and ask for our votes rather than be subjected to the tyrannical misrule of a dictator who is not answerable to the people.

    People of Pakistan can be accused of many things, but they are certainly not dumb. They have clearly shown their disapproval of the dictator and have chosen to give their confidence yet again to the so called “corrupt” politicians. It is time for our “overseas” brothers to respect our choice because it is us not you who are going to live with its consequences. Please try to reconcile yourself with our choice and accept our right to chose our own rulers.

  44. Steve says:
    August 19th, 2008 1:52 am

    To my Friends,

    Usman Ghani Rathore, Saadullah, Saeed Malik and Obaid Ur Rehman, I seriously wished there were more of us, President Musharraf made me a proud Pakistani and so have you my friends.

    We have lost a great leader and a true person. I pray that God mak keep him safe at all times and that ‘WE’ of the sane population of Pakistan multiply and understand what we, As Pakistanies need to do to brink our nation back to where it was.

    I feel ashamed by what has happened, only the stupid will celebrate cause they don’t have a single clue of whats going to happen next, its painful, but I guess we will all have to sit back and see the drama.

    I am so sure that it will take only a few days for these two parties to start fighting with each other, and only then will the People Of Pakistan realize what they have done. The we will see who will be giving sweets around…we’ll be too poor to eat dal…I tell you.

    But anyways, God Bless Musharraf and like says he will always support Pakistan so will I and I most certainly hope that the People of Musharraf’s Pakistan will do so.

    Long Live Musharraf, Long Live Pakistan….

  45. Steve says:
    August 19th, 2008 1:58 am

    Adonis, you and your corrupt leaders can have Pakistan, but remember my name and mark my words, the outside pakistanis are not going to be happy with your rulers. and after two months, since you are living in Pakistan, let me hear you say that everything is going well…and that you are satisfied.

    I have known so many people who have left Pakistan just on account of these two so called leaders, they have ruined Pakistan and will continue to do so as long as they are allowed to.

    We are here ( Outside Pakistani ) because we choose to, because we never saw a future in Pakistan. Musharraf gave us that future and made us Proud Pakistanis. We know how we felt cause we had to face the outside world.

    So, Congrats and I hope you ate enough sweets, cause trust me, your going to need it…

  46. Dr. Shahid (Houston) says:
    August 19th, 2008 5:07 am

    Finally with musharaf’s resignation the vultures seem soaring. Those under illusion that Musharaf could have been impeached or that he left because of the fear of impeachment, let me make it clear, Impeachment is no light matter. We saw daily photographs in the press, and shots on our television screens, of the smug powers that be and who were in charge of drawing up the

  47. Ehsan says:
    August 19th, 2008 5:56 am

    Ashamed of the Pakistani people or may be not this will teach them a lesson when they see what its like to be without a powerful man in charge of Pakistan and may be once they will know who meant good for them and who’s the devil inside !
    I WILL ALWAYS BE A MUSHARRAF SUPPORTER !

  48. Farooq Ahmed says:
    August 19th, 2008 6:31 am

    I am apalled at the intelligence of those who think Musharraf’s resignation is something of a disaster, particularly those living in the US. It seems the US media has successeded in pulling the woll over their eyes. Here is a man who is responsible for extra-judicial abductions of more than 400 hundred Pakistanis in a bid to feed the US war on terror. Most of these unfortunate souls had nothing to do with terrorism. Here is man who establiahed a party of crooks and put it in the saddle. Here is a man who has patronised linguistic and ethnic violence in Karachi. Here is man who bombed his own citizens and killed large number of innocent people in order to placate the American hunger for more violence in the war on terror. here is a man who miamed the constitution more than once, who maligned the army, destroyed national institutions and introduced sham democracy. He was not a strong man, he was a despot, a dictator. No matter how corrupt and ravenous the zardari and sharif lot are, they are better than an army dictator.

  49. Toogy says:
    August 19th, 2008 9:39 am

    > Musharraf certainly made major errors in the last year

    He didn’t make errors! This is what you get from having a dictator – a man who is corrupted by power.

    > And for the record, Musharraf did free the media, he did however, in poor judgement, try to restrain it last year,

    So he freed the media until it covered his crimes. How democratic is that? So you are saying that Musharraf himself is the media’s best friend and worst enemy.

    I guess that explains how he was a “democratic dictator.”

    Yes we need to learn from this example that army men only look for their own gains. Where is the money America gave Musharraf? He has looted from this nation that Nawaz or PPP – face the facts, no one is a saint, but Musharraf is the worst.

  50. Haris Rana says:
    August 19th, 2008 10:30 am

    Mr. Bilawal bhutto zardari is on the screen the very next when a Musharraf left his seat. A great symbolic sceen to be seen at the Pakistani politcial stage! A middle working class back ground leader has gone and here comes a Kid who’s a “leader” because his mother was primeminsiter and his mother was a prime minister because her father sate on the seat of primeminister and so and so forth..After five months the national resources of this poor nation has been burnt ruthlessly on silly issues. Zardari the Theive of Sindh and Shareef the meat eater of Lahore site in laxury sofas with pretenious smiles on their faces ..this is what we have seen once the “Demo- cracy ” is back.
    THANKS Musharraf and Allah Bless You!

  51. Hussein says:
    August 19th, 2008 10:58 am

    I agree this is a victory for Pakistan.

    Of all the way previous leaders has been removed (jailings, bloodshed, judicial murder, exile) this is the most dignified departure. I think it is the new political maturity of Zardari and Nawaz Sharif. If they had wanted revenge, they would have made Musharraf zaleel and jailed him or something like that. But they have set a good precedent, even if they did because military asked them to, but they did and that is important.

  52. Roby says:
    August 19th, 2008 1:09 pm

    I believe that you Pakistanis will miss Gen. Musharraf . I remember how the Iranians were so happy to get rid of the Shah’s corrupted reign – and what have they received instead? A fundamentalist mullahs regime! You will now face again corruption, extreme islamism and suicide bombers. I wish you good luck!

  53. asif says:
    August 19th, 2008 3:24 pm

    Nawaz Sharif stole billions of dollars from Pakistan and was convicted!
    Zardari is also from a criminal from a criminal family.
    The only people who want Musharraf gone are people who want to see Pakistani weak

  54. August 20th, 2008 2:37 am

    PAKISTAN IS GIFT FROM THE CREATER ALMIGHTY ALLAH,CAME INTO BEING ON 27TH OF RAMZANUL MUBARAK,IN 1947.INSHALLAH PAKISTAN WILL REMAIN TILL DAY OF JUDGEMENT[KAYAMAT] AND VERY SOON ISLAMI SHARIA WILL BE IMLEMENTED TO RULE OUR LIVES AS PAKSTAN WAS DEMANDED IN THE NAME OF ISLAM.PAKISTAN KA MATLAB KIYA “LA ILLAHA ILLALLAH…..”WE ARE ONE NATION ,OUR ALLAH IS ONE ,OUR QURAN[WAY]IS ONE ,OUR NABI[REHBAR]IS ONE.PAKISTAN HAMARI JAN HAY, HAMARI PEHCHAN HAY,HAMARA MAQSAD HAY….PAKISTAN ZINDABAD…

  55. August 20th, 2008 3:31 am

    Creation of pakistan is miracle.When pakistan movement was in progress,all were saying ‘It is impossible”.When it came on MAP then all predicted it will be for not more then 25 years.Since it’s creation pakistan facing crisis oneby one,but till now we survived,and I hope it will be successful in achieving it’s goal that it;s ideology.Don’t see the people,Pl. submit to Allah.Be honest,sincere,patriotic,and MUSALMAN totally in accordence of instructions of creater sent through our NABI MUHAMMED S.A.W. IN QURAN ,AHADIS,ANDSHARIA.Be ensured no one can damage pakistan INSHA ALLAH.Be aware that Hazrar Musa was nourished in the house of Firown,as ALLAH iS ALMIGHTY.PAKISTAN PAINDABAD.

  56. August 20th, 2008 8:10 am

    lida writes shows that it has been observed from media to form opinion based on Materialism,we people ,pakistanis believe in faith,spritualism,miracles.we are facing crisis since our inception.our prophet S,A.W. faced difficulties,but truth prevailed.we have been gifted pakistan by Almighty Allah,creater,for which we have struggled and demanded in tne name and ideology of Islam.Please read authentic books on pakstan and Islam.pakistan movement ,Quran,Ahadis/Bukari- .please do no trust on propeganda against truth.what ever happening in pakistan is our trial to make us true muslim.From the day pakistan created we are facing crisis but truth will Inshaallah prevail soon.Our Rehbar/Rehnuma is our Mehboob Nabi Nak S.A.W.Departure of MUSSARAF will make no difference .our quide departed soon after independence.we believe in Ideology

  57. Himayat says:
    August 21st, 2008 1:47 am

    PAKISTAN ZINDABAD.
    Musharraf is not important, nor is Zardari or Sharif. Pakistan is important.
    Pakistan was saved by removing Musharraf.
    Pakistan Zindabad.

  58. Qamar uz Zaman says:
    August 21st, 2008 2:01 am

    I think it is clear that thins will be unstable for a while. But that is OK. After 9 years of military rule they have to be unstable for a while. But things would have been worse if Musharrf has stayed.

    Glad that democracy and people’s will won out at the end.

  59. Rafay Kashmiri says:
    August 21st, 2008 4:57 am

    @Asif,

    absolutely wrong, nothing of the sort, fabrications,
    on the contrary Musharraf has Looted Shareef’s family,
    ruined them, THEY ARE STILL SUFFERING FROM THE
    LOSSES. SHAREEFS HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEMAND DEMAGES FROM THE COURTS.

    Musharraf left behind his zurriats, Baqiats
    PML-Qulfi,
    the freeedom of press,
    “vibrant media”
    more than 50 free channels.

    ” Jaisi ma’n, wessi bettians. ”

    He also left behind a legacy for which he should be
    judged all his life i.e. Dr AAFIA HER THREE CHILDREN,
    AND 780 MORE PAKISTANIS WHOM HE SOLD AGAINST
    PAYMENTS MADE TO HIS SONS . THIS IS A BLATANT BEGHAIRATI.

    Rafay Kashmiri

  60. abdullah says:
    August 21st, 2008 1:38 pm

    AMINPANAWALA @
    are you a maulvi or what ? Keep it up man. True you are Pakistan is surviving because of ideologies and theologies besides other factors. BUT one thing which I agree with you that Pakistan has been created to survive and INSHALLAH it will, let there be no doubt in any one’s mind.

    Rafay Kashmiri @
    What are you talking !!!
    Sharif has been looted ? Come on man ! you saw him coming to Zardari’s residence. The way he came in a black Mercedes,does it show that Sharif has gone poor.
    Every one is yapping about taking Musharaf to the court. WHY ? First take Nawaz Sharif to the court. Where is the money which the nation gave him when he raised the slogan “karz utaro mulk sanwaro” I remember women gave their ornaments in this phony drive. Why was Chief justice Sajjad Ali Shah bent upon hearing corruption charges against Nawaz Sharif? Because Nawaz Sharif is brainless corrupt idiot. Now nawaz sharif has become very sincere to the cause of restoration of judiciary. Is he the same GUNDA who asked Altaf Gohar to tell him how he can put the Chief Justice of Pakistan Sajjad Ali Shah behind the bars for atleast one night. (sharam karo) . It was his party who ransacked the Supreme Court of Pakistan (PML-N). are we forgetting the past or are we nuts.
    What happened to the TAXI SCHEME. Nawaz got the highest kickbacks in the Islamabad Highway project from the Korean company. Can he refute these allegations.
    (a headless idiot who starts weeping in front of generals) .

    What damages are Sharif’s right ? which he can demand from the court.

    And then we have another “RANGEELA” in the political scenario. Asif Zardari. A newly born politician. Oh yes he is the most master minded culprit who can tie a bomb to your leg or mine if he comes to know that we have money. We all think that he was really in prison for all those years when he was never in his cell at night and was attending parties with generals.
    Its the same Zardari who converted the Prime minister house in Islamabad a money laundering “adda”.
    Do we think that all those allegations against Zardari’s and Bhutto’s for making countless fortunes abroad, in swiss banks, purchasing palaces in Britain were wrong, how innocent and stupid we are. If zardari has been pardoned by the courts of Pakistan this hardly mean that he has been absolved of his crimes and looting Pakistan.
    Oh yes we are really stupid. Bilawal Zardari Bhutto is the leader of Pakistan. Is this Pakistan another “Jagir” of Bhutto’s. I think it is.
    Last but not the least, post Musharaf era is going to be a real pain in the **s for these “JOKERS” on the political scene and for PAKISTANI’s at large unless and until we open our eyes and speak for our selves as to what we want.

  61. Asif says:
    November 20th, 2008 3:30 am

    What can i say, but only that i love Musharraf.

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