Adil Najam
This is a VERY DISTURBING video. Please view at your own discretion.
It is important, however, that we speak about and shout out about this video.
It shows a 17-year old girl being flogged by a Taliban leader of some sort in a perverted form of justice. Reportedly the incident happened in Kalakalay, Swat around 3 months ago (before the supposed peace deal with the government). The girl is being ‘punished’ for going somewhere without a male relative. Supposedly, the male companion was also flogged.
This video is also be discussed vigorously at Pakistaniat’s new Facebook page. Some of that disussion does not carry over here, although we hope it ultimately will.
In more recent developments, supposedly Sufi Mohammad in Swat has condemned the act and said this was not Baitullah’s Taliban. More importantly, the recent reinstated Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry has taken su moto notice of this incident. According to The News
Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry Friday took a suo motu notice of the media footage in which a 17 year old girl is being whipped out in the broad daylight in Swat. Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhdy ordered the matter to be presented before a larger bench on April 6. He also summoned Secretary Interior, IG and Chief Secretary on April 6. He ordered formation of 8-member larger bench to be headed by himself.
This is a story that all Pakistanis and all Muslims must speak about and speak against. There are those who will try to make this a story about what Pakistan or Islam is. Such bigoted approaches are to be resisted. This is not a story about what Pakistan is. This is clearly not about what Islam is. This is a story about what the enemies of Islam and enemies of Pakistan are doing. This is a story about what Pakistan must not allowed to become. The bad news is obvious in the video itself. The bad news is about the criminality being conducted in the name of religion. The good news is that the media, the judiciary and ordinary Pakistanis ARE speaking up and speaking out. We must do more so. For if we do not speak out against this criminality, who will?
@pejamistri
There is a fourth group of people who believe all religions are based on superstition and ignorance.Slavery and misogny is accepted in Judaism,Christianity and Islam.
I have looked into these major monotheistic religions and don’t see where slavery was banned in any of them.
Jews claim they were enslaved by Egyptians for hundreds of years but God of Moses never told them Thou Shalt Not Enslave fellow Humans instead He told them to keep Sabath.
Now what is more important not working on saturdays or freedom of mankind?
I am sure one day reason and logic will prevail.
BARBARIC, GET rid of these guys from our country.
@inayat
Although it is as simple as you have described it i.e. “It is BARBARIC” , but there are many hurdles in accepting this truth. So there are three sections
1. The first group is of the people , who although in heart of their hearts may believe that it is “BARBARIC” , however it is not possible for them to accept that truth. The religious zeal demands that even if it is “BARBARIC” , if it is recommended by the religion we MUST accept it. This is very simple indeed for these people. I am not saying that such people are stone hearted, or brainless. As a matter of fact over the past few decades there have been many great scholars who have been propagating this theory to the general public on the basis of logical reasons. If you listen to contemporary scholars like Dr. Israr, Dr. Tahirul Qadri , Dr. Zakir Naik, etc.. you will find that the meaning of word “ISLAM” they would prefer is “submission to Almighty God” , over “Peace”. I was doing some comparison that how the “Submission to Allah” was slowly changed from “Peace”. So when you “submit your will to God” that means you loose the right to object any commandment from the God. I am not saying that this is only unique in religion Islam , all religions are more or less based on this principle. The question however is that whether a “seemingly Barbaric” act if prescribed the religion is acceptable or not. In the opinion of such people such acts is not only ACCEPTABLE but actually commendable as it is prescribed by the religion.
2. The second group of people is the one who sincerely thinks that such an act is “BARBARIC” because it was wrong way to execute such act. So the punishment/act in itself can not be considered as barbaric (because this is how Quran and Islam prescribed the punishment for adulterers) , it is the way “Taliban” have served the punishment (i.e. without following the due course of law) and the way it was executed (in front of public on a chowk, without any regards to sanctity of woman).
3. The third group is of the “enlightened moderated” group of people who think that even if such punishment was served thousand years back , it CAN NOT be practiced today. This is important to note however that such people are not “Kafirs” or “against Islam” however they think that there is a requirement for re-constructing the religious principles according to the modern day requirements.
I must say however that first group is in the majority looking at the comments on pakistaniat.com
What a silly discussion. THIS IS BARBARIC, even if it was practicesd a thousand years ago it shoudl not be practiced today. Can we not get that into our head!!!!
Let the one who has not sinned start the flogging.
This conversation totally does not make sense.
First, idiots are talking as if they know that she actually committed adultery … THE ONLY WAY YOU WOUDL KNOW IF IF YOU WERE THE ONE COMMITTING IT YOURSELF. Were you? [anyone can get a fake confession after this much beating!)
Second, they are discussing if this is teh right punishment. People, have some sense. It does not matter what was done a thousand years ago. Whether it was in Shariah or not, IS THIS THE RIGHT WAY TO DEAL WITH THINGS. WOULD YOU WANT YOUR BABY SISTER TO BE FLOGGED IF SHE WENT TO THE MARKET WITH AN ELDER RELATIVE? What is humanly wrong is wrong. THIS IS WRONG.
The video reminds me of the
blessed occasion of Baqr Eid when a helpless animal is held down by yet larger animals and beheaded while children stand around and clap for joy. With that kind of life long training in desensitization, I’m surprised that so many of us find this video shocking !
Dear Zakoota
What is making Pakistan unpopular is not the video but WHAT is actually happening in Pakistan.
The solution i not hiding that reality but speaking out against what is happening and making clear that real Paksitani are NOT with these Taliban and Jihadis who want to take us back to the caves with these barbaric practices.
Glad to see you joining your voice with those of sane Pakistanis who reject the barbarism and jahalat.