Adil Najam
Here is a rather gruesome ad from the Punjab Anti-Narcotics Force, warning prospective pilgrims going for Hajj to Saudi Arabia of the dangers of drug trafficking.
The painted bill board ad makes the point, rather graphically and quite clearly that anyone caught bringing drugs into Saudi Arabia will face death. One wonders, however, if that point is being made a little more graphically than necessary.
The wording on the billboard (seemingly quite large and on an outdoor public location) says:
Don’t unknowingly invite death.
By taking someone’s else luggage or unnecessary foreign or local medications do not put your own life at risk.
Taking narcotics or addictive elements to Saudi Arabia will result in a certain death penalty.
Anti-Narcotics Force (Punjab).
How, I wonder, does a parent explain to a child who sees this billboard why the Arab-looking man is beheading the Pakistani-looking man with such gusto.
One wonders who it is that really gives Muslims a ‘bad name’? The message for the prospective drug smuggler to Saudi Arabia is quite clear. But, what is the message for the rest of us? And the rest of the world?
[quote comment="15958"]I wonder why people are so worked up about Saudi Arabia on this site called All Things PAKISTAN. I am sure there are Saudi sites that discuss Saudi Arabia. Especially given the other post right now about ATPs six months, should we not be worrying about what happens in Pakistan and leave Saudi Arabia to Saudis![/quote]
Saudi govt does not allow such freedom of expression and most of their internet is highly scrutinized or blocked! Go figure
[quote comment="15318"]I haven’t spent much time just a month or so durint two trips for Umrah. What I actually saw that most of guys who were punished by cutting their hands off were outsiders like Pakistanis, Bangladeshis,Sudaneese and Indians. Atleast I didn’t find any local with one hand. So it’s lame to blame govt while outsiders don’t learn lessons from such punishments even clear instructions are given on passport in both English and urdu.[/quote]
You see this rule applies to us poor muslims only and not to the locals not the westerns!!
Janab Pakistani sahib
There is indeed no link in Saudi’s drug law and off loading the imams. Read all the thread completely. Isay kehtay hain baat main say baat nikalna. Grin
Pakistani actually it’s your crazy analogy. Sajid and Babar were actually comparing freedom in US and KSA. Obviously your logic doesn’t make any sense at all.
Wah janab wah. Amazing logic.
The Americans send back some Jordanian imams who have broken immigration laws and are without visas, therefore it is now OK for the Saudis to chop off the heads of Pakistanis.
Makes full sense!
Mr. Baber
Everyone knows how Americans and British governments treated Muslims all over the world. Useless to mention American forces crimes in Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine, Afghanistan, Bosnia and other parts of the world. If you still think that Americans and Britons tolerate and respect Islam, it is very strange…..
You said that
“Not letting them fly has nothing to do with religious freedom”
OK but it has to do with human rights and our beloved America is the champion of human rights. Why they prefered to kick out the Imams while they could off load the critising passengers also.
Sajid
[quote post="456"]Arn’t you being very judgmental about me and other Pakistanis living aborad?[/quote]
Dear babar, you were also being very judgemental about Pakistan/Saudia. Whatever I said was not untrue. I gave a general perception and was not targetting anyone here. Why Pakistanis ignore the evils of American or other western society and desprate to promote positives while on other hand they try their best to push positives of Pakistani society and expose negatives to outer world. As long as this country doesn’t getrid of such mentality which once ridiculed by an american consulate that pakis are always desprate to get US visa and questions about it in different parties. The title of post is related to Pakistanis and their corruption and has no relation with Saudia. If USA impose same or similar punishment in US then you would start reading news about them as well.
Sajid and Adnan Sahib
Mr Jack straw was crticized for his statement by many Britons. They can’t execute him or stich his lips for doing that. The “fact” is that till now in Britain/US our Muslim sister are allowed to wear Hijab. And freedom of religion means people should be allowed to practice their religion freely.
Britons that abuse Muslim women by snatching(harassing) their hijabs when caught are prosecuted and
jailed for hate crimes.
About the Imams, its sad but that incident “does not reflect” that there is no religious freedom. Some people in US suffer from ISLAMOPHOBIA, the Imams were praying in an airport, they are were not stopped from doing that, it was the people who became scared/skeptic and were not wiling to fly with them. Not letting them fly has nothing to do with religiou freedom.
Adnan Bhai,
I used to be very regular at KPC in 99 and 2000. Infact the Internet room was setup by me. I mean I did the installation of the network. Tanveer used to be GS then.
I am not trying to twist facts. I am using them to make a point. I have no grudges against any country. Justifing beheading with low crime rate is just outrages.
You can make a really good point without using statements like these
[quote comment="15949"]Baber my friend, in Pakistan we do have access to Internet and we can read what Jack Straw says about Hijab.
YES our relatives DO live in UK and US!
Kindly stop considering us members of some remote village where some stupid Vadera is considered credible than anyone else and people trust him blindly.
I know you guys live over there and clean roads,English language, electronic gadgets have made you excited enough that you just paint everything with a single brush. Good for you but not for everyone.[/quote]
Arn’t you being very judgmental about me and other Pakistanis living aborad?
Whats happening because of these comparisons is that we are flipping the debate into other directions.
Because of so many comments posted here and the bill board by ANF we now know the views of people on beheading and chopping of hands.