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Pakistan Cracks Down on TV News Channels Geo and Aaj

Posted on June 4, 2007
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In my last post, I mentioned that Electronic Media is under siege and many programs are likely to be banned. But I was not expecting it to happen so soon. Geo News transmission have been completely shut down in most parts of the country and Aaj TVvhas disappeared from my cable at least (WorldCall Cable, Lahore).

I don’t know if Aaj TV has been completely banned or not. It happened while I was watching Dr. Shahid Masood’s Mere Mutabiq. Muslim League (Q)’s own Vice President Kabir Wasti was strongly criticizing General Musharaf, holding him responsible for the judicial crises when suddenly Geo News was shut down. I thought that its a temporary ban and transmission will be back as soon as Dr. Shahid’s program is over but its been several hours now and still no signs of Geo or Aaj coming back on my cable. A friend of mine sent me this SMS from Karachi that Geo News disappeared from most parts of the Sindh around 8 o clock too during Imran Khan’s interview in another program Jawab De.

Geo News website has this to say:

The government has blocked the transmission of the Geo News TV channel across the country due to the reasons best known to them. The viewers calls flooded the Geo office to ask that why the transmission of Geo News TV channel was suddenly suspended when the famous programme, “Meray Mutabik” was going on air.


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The calls from the viewers were received from various parts of the country. According to Geo News sources the government has blocked the transmission of the Geo News. Geo transmission was blocked in various parts of Islamabad, Lahore, Hyderabad, Karachi and other areas. The citizens, social and political circles have condemned the ban on transmission of Geo News and they have demanded of the government to immediately lift ban on the transmission of the Geo News and give complete freedom to media in the country.

I am unable to understand why this step has been taken but lets wait and see the official reason which will surely be Afwaje Pakistan ke khilaaf baat ki gaye hai. I suspect the title of Dr. Shahid’s program Idaro Ka Takrao – Fatah Kiski Ho Gi (Clash of Institutions – Who Will be Victorious) must have caused concerns among people sitting in Information Ministry aka Mr. Ghalat Biyani.

Whatever government says but I thought it was a very interesting program and a healthy discussion going on when some wise men decided to shut it down. I hope the ban is lifted soon and government shows some common sense. Like they say in Urdu, Kuch Hosh Ke Nakhun Lo Bhai. Whatever happened to those free media and freedom of press claims :). This is yet another direct attack on freedom of expression and truly a shameful act and should be strongly condemned. I am afraid Dr. Shahid Masood will be in trouble once again for not being afraid, for speaking his mind and saying what is in hearts of millions of ordinary Pakistanis.

343 Comments on “Pakistan Cracks Down on TV News Channels Geo and Aaj”

  1. Saad says:
    June 4th, 2007 12:30 am

    Here is the clip after which Geo TV was banned.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko1fbP1iGaE

  2. YLH says:
    June 4th, 2007 12:35 am

    I confirm this from F-7 sector in Islamabad. This is sad and ridiculous.

  3. Asad Khan says:
    June 4th, 2007 12:38 am

    Can someone also post General Aslam Beg’s interview on the same show. I missed that part, but from what I am reading about it, it seemed that he was equally critical.

  4. Kruman says:
    June 4th, 2007 12:39 am

    Kabir Ali Wasti ran bull in Musharraf’s china shop leaving nothing but pieces of broken glass and china in Musharraf’s fragile political setup.

  5. Kruman says:
    June 4th, 2007 12:43 am

    BTW yesterday’s program was great too. Shahid Masood justaposed the present situation in Pakistan with the last days of Shah of Iran. I am surprised the program did not get blacked out yesterday.

    Right now Shahid Masood is at his brilliant best, hitting fours and sixes all over the ground like Shahid Afridi.

  6. Asad Khan says:
    June 4th, 2007 12:51 am

    “Kabir Ali Wasti” Vice President of the ruling Qaaf League; what can I say. He has spilled the beans. The whole mess is a creation of Musharraf and his advisers; what we suspected all along. Now an insider going on live tv against the rulers is the last straw that broke the camel’s back. This is as far as they are willing to take. I don’t think that Geo TV is coming back unless they kick out Shahid Masood, or agree to other controls from the government. Free media is not coming back to Pakistan without their wings being clipped; at least not until these guys are in power.

  7. Asad Khan says:
    June 4th, 2007 1:16 am

    Kruman, well said. For those of you in Pakistan, I just heard on Geo News that before Shahid Masood’s program went on air, he received two anonymous phone calls. One caller asked him as to how much Lattha (shroud) does he need, and that it was prepared for him. This is “terrorism by the state”. We are now watching history unfold in front of us. Sanity and civility was on its way out, but now has left the President house in Islamabad.

  8. Kruman says:
    June 4th, 2007 1:19 am

    Just finished talking to the secretary of Pakistan Bar Council on the phone. The main numbers for the Pakistan Bar Council of are:
    92-51-9206805, 92-51-9206922.

    Their web address is:
    http://pakbarcouncil.org/html/about.html

    Contact numbers including mobile numbers of prominent lawyers like Hamid Khan and Rashid Rizvi can also be found on their website:
    http://pakbarcouncil.org/html/contacts.html

    Please call them and urge them to record their own videos of CJP Iftikhar Chaudhry’s addresses (plus all the lawyers’ speeches) and upload them on video google.

    Please call them my compatriots, don’t underestimate the power of people’s pressure!

    Thanks!

  9. Kruman says:
    June 4th, 2007 1:29 am

    [quote comment="51558"]Kruman, well said. For those of you in Pakistan, I just heard on Geo News that before Shahid Masood’s program went on air, he received two anonymous phone calls. One caller asked him as to how much Lattha (shroud) does he need, and that it was prepared for him. This is “terrorism by the state”. We are now watching history unfold in front of us. Sanity and civility was on its way out, but now has left the President house in Islamabad.[/quote]

    Asad please don’t forget to call Pakistan bar council! Ask as many Pakistanis as you conveniently can to do the same. We must urge them to start uploading videos of bar council addresses on video google.

    Once they have their video recording of the event, it just takes a laptop, a 50 dollar video tuner and a high speed internet connection to upload.

  10. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    June 4th, 2007 1:46 am

    Also note that current ban was actually imposed by Pakistan Cable Operation Association who are more loyal than King. I wonder whether we should register protest by not giving monthly fee? how come they forgot that they take money from us not by govt.

    On a side note, Shahid Masood is threatened:

    tinyurl.com/2tcpvv

    Cable operators

    tinyurl.com/2gycgj

  11. Adonis says:
    June 4th, 2007 1:53 am

    Another tell-tale sign that the countdown has begun. Typical reaction of a crumbling regime.

  12. June 4th, 2007 2:33 am

    BBC

  13. Eidee Man says:
    June 4th, 2007 2:51 am

    What a mess Musharraf has made….I mean, he is really very stupid, even from a tactical point of view to let it degenerate to this level….just two months ago, he could have EASILY compromised with PPP, and established a solid place for himself for at least 5 years.

    BTW, have you guys heard of JumpTV.com? It broadcasts Aaj TV and a number of other channels LIVE!

  14. Adonis says:
    June 4th, 2007 2:59 am

    Here is the link to Auria Maqbool Jan’s column on this issue in today’s Express. Aside from nawai-waqt, express seems to be the only big urdu newspaper solidly projecting the viewpoint of masses.

    http://express.com.pk/images/NP_LHE/20070604/Sub_Images/1100198004-2.gif

  15. Adonis says:
    June 4th, 2007 3:12 am

    [quote comment="51579"]What a mess Musharraf has made….I mean, he is really very stupid, even from a tactical point of view to let it degenerate to this level….just two months ago, he could have EASILY compromised with PPP, and established a solid place for himself for at least 5 years.
    [/quote]

    His being stupidity is established by now. Whenever he opens his mouth, he manages to put his foot into it.

    But I would disagree that any deal with PPP would have helped him. On the contrary, such a deal was (and is) likely to be even more damaging to PPP. Its workers were strongly against it and they expresses their resentment openly by slogans against any deal during the present protests. It would have been like jumping into a sinking ship.

  16. Adonis says:
    June 4th, 2007 3:13 am

    *stupid …….. sorry for the typo

  17. Ayjay says:
    June 4th, 2007 4:18 am

    Its really strange what a group of sycophants can do to someone. 7 years ago I thought Musharraf was an outspoken and dynamic man. Always used to silence fiery questioning (even from international media) by his impropmtu reasoning.

    Sad that now hes comprehensibly made a fool out of himself.

  18. Saad says:
    June 4th, 2007 4:53 am

    [quote comment="51551"]I confirm this from F-7 sector in Islamabad. This is sad and ridiculous.[/quote]

    Actually its neither. As much as i dislike the guy (Mushaffar i-e), the blame for this cannot be attributed to him alone. Our media has gotten out of hand and has stooped to biased tabloid jouirnalism, clearly taking sides in a quixotic fit of righteousness. Nowhere in the world, America & UK included, can any network give so much coverage to the oppositions POV or bash the govt or country like Geo does here. Its high time these hacks were stopped. If you think i am taking a side, just stop to think for a second that their transmission goes to 40+ countries…what do you think they would think when sensationalists like Kamran Khan bellow hoarsly ‘khuda ka wasta hai apnay aap ko bachain’.

    Every country has dirty laundry…you dont air it in public. We can all go beady eyed and say that principally the media should be free. Its not the case anywhere in the world, and you know why? Its because the media is run by people, hence not perfect. Giving carte blanche to an imperfect entity results in the kind of mass hysteria these hacks have created. Tabloids, the lot of them. No regard for our international image or values (they show cadavers and severed heads without prior warning, traumatizing younger viewers and desensitizing them in the process)

    So all you proponents of free media, get off your high horse and smell the coffee, it smells of hypocrisy

    Rant over

  19. Twintopaz says:
    June 4th, 2007 5:05 am

    Saad…would you like to enlighten us when was the last time any meida in west as attacked by armed policemen??

    and…when was a CJ of America & UK was thrown out of court and house arrested?… please

  20. Eidee Man says:
    June 4th, 2007 5:08 am

    [quote comment="51606"]
    Actually its neither. As much as i dislike the guy (Mushaffar i-e), the blame for this cannot be attributed to him alone. Our media has gotten out of hand and has stooped to biased tabloid jouirnalism, clearly taking sides in a quixotic fit of righteousness. Nowhere in the world, America & UK included, can any network give so much coverage to the oppositions POV or bash the govt or country like Geo does here. [/quote]

    Saad, I must say your view is not shared by the vast majority of Pakistanis. The fact that our press is critical and has in many instances stood up for independence is a glimmer of hope in an otherwise sad environment.

    God forbid our media degenerate into something like the American mainstream media! You obviously do not live in the U.S…since you would have a very different view if you did!

  21. YLH says:
    June 4th, 2007 5:09 am

    Saad,

    A free media critical of the government was Pakistan’s greatest asset… the world knows that the Pakistani nation is alive to the possibilities a truly democratic and progressive Pakistani nation would hold… The fact is that these channels have only been in Pakistan and not anywhere else.

    There is no excuse for this behavior by the government … any people who support the government’s move are actually the enemies of Pakistan.

  22. doast says:
    June 4th, 2007 5:28 am

    ASA: Cable Operators are small-time businessmen who have installed their network’s with less than a million rupees each and generally the networks are just catering to 1-2 sectors in Islamabad. If these were big companies like media giants (Dawn, Jang, Nawai-e-Waqt Groups etc), they could have stood up to the government. I think the only solution is that the privateTV channels should get together and start beaming via satellite so we can receieve unhindered directly without fear of government sensorship!

  23. Saad says:
    June 4th, 2007 5:35 am

    What else could you possibly expect from this regime? It’s a miracle that Gen. Musharraf was able to pull of his ‘act’ for so long but like all tyrannical regimes of the world, his is coming to a violent end as well. These are the last flickers of a dying regime.

  24. Babbi says:
    June 4th, 2007 5:53 am

    [quote comment="51615"] his is coming to a violent end as well. These are the last flickers of a dying regime.[/quote]

    You got it right this time.

    Musharraf is now into Dirty Politics. We have politicians who can do dirty politics far much better than Musharraf.

    It is beginning of the end.

  25. Saad says:
    June 4th, 2007 6:01 am

    Babbi – Above Saad and I are different people.

  26. Saad says:
    June 4th, 2007 6:41 am

    The ‘other’ Saad again…

    Guys your concerns noted, tho my point is at a slight tangent. Musharraf can go milk a goat for all i care, and yes he has been exceptionally dumb in the past 6 odd months. I am more concerned about the fact that the media has unilaterally decided (a facade if there ever was one) that they are the custodians of what is right for the country, not dissimilar to how our cuddly despot came into power.

    This is not the media’s war. And please dont for a second believe that even they (media) believe it is. Its a ratings war, Geo and Aaj are winning by being more provocative and controversial.

    If i am an indian, a nepalese, a bangladeshi or American, i would be laughing my butt off at the scenes on air. No bones about it, this is civil disobedience in the 21st century on display, if you dislike pakistan, you are going to love whats on Geo…you can watch it with popcorn. It doesnt paint a pretty picture. And it definitely doesnt say that ours is a progressive and democratic nation. Hate to repeat myself but all we are doing is washing our dirty linen in the global eye. Not smart

    I am all for a critical media, and yes the American media is no benchmark. However, there is a limit to everything, the media does have boundaries. It is just choosing to ignore them to get the biggest slice of Mobi/nor’s advertising budget (i am a marketer myself and know Geo and its people intimately, its a vendor first and right now its doing all it can to extend the record advertising deals in place)

  27. BitterTruth says:
    June 4th, 2007 7:01 am

    [quote]we are doing is washing our dirty linen in the global eye[/quote]
    at least we are washing it ..what should be do? hide it and keep it as it is? dirty and filthy?
    There should be a check on media, but at the moment the ban is only because somebody criticized government. That is absolutely unfair.

  28. Adonis says:
    June 4th, 2007 7:06 am

    Of course this is civil disobedience. The nation has risen and the media is just reflecting the mood of people. This is 21st century. The regime may silence the local channels but they cannot silence CNN, BBC and other foreign channels.

    It was not the media that killed 40 people in karachi. Even if the local channels had notcovered it, foreign media would have. The image of Pakistan suffers because of this regime not because of our media.

    Killing people is a much bigger crime than showing dying people on tv. People of Pakistan are trying to overthrow a mafia of armed goons. They need all the help they can get.

  29. Sabahat says:
    June 4th, 2007 7:08 am

    @ Saad: While some of your points have some validity, the only way you can judge when the media has gone too far is when they start feeding their viewers lies, if such a thing occurs then indeed the media has gone too far and ought to be reprimanded. But until then what they are doing is commendable and courageous.

    I agree it is also about the ratings many a time but this whole the ‘country’s image’ is such hogwash. That is the kind of reasoning that gave rise to the Patriot Act in America and constantly pushes back people like Naom Chomsky and Edward Said away from the mainstream American media. The kinds of channels that try to promote a positive image of the country are Fox News. The media’s role (just like the Government and the judiciary) is and should be to care about the welfare of the people. Created ‘images’ don’t count. Would you that all news of murder, carnage, rape and injustice be taken out of the news so as to give a nice, clean image of the country to the outside world? That can only happen when the actual image improves, until then the truth needs to be told.

    Its not a warped sense of loyalty to the ‘country’ as an entity that should be our concern but a loyalty to the vast majority of people who reside in it.

  30. asa says:
    June 4th, 2007 7:38 am

    hi,dear pakistan is facing very crucial situation,where every common people is in estonishing position because from one aspect our govt totaly lost there position,there is no foreign policy,and govt is going to perform every order of our masters,where our stste sovergnty is totaly dameged and the international laws are violated US attaked on our territory beside to condemed them and go to ICJ,our govt is silent,anternaly state is in very danger due to mushrafs childish policy,judiciary ,media,..

  31. Saad says:
    June 4th, 2007 7:51 am

    >>>adonis…no one is trying to overthrow anyone for the common good. Every man for himself. Having opened my eyes during Zia ul Haq’s era, i know for a fact this is as good as its gets for us. Our civilian leadership botched it up over and over again, leading us to near bankruptcy. Although this is no defence of Musharraf’s rule, name one alternative. Go on, please…Who comes in when he goes?

    >>>Sabahat…good points well made. Tho please note that murder, rape, carnage happen everywhere, and image does matter, for the world and for our own esteem. We know our rulers are crocked, we know our people behaved worse than animals, but for these people to become our identity to the world outside is unacceptable. You and i are know we are better than that, but we like to type from the sidelines…

    >>>Everyone
    Pakistan handled Kashmir earthquake fiasco much much better than the US did Katrina, the Army played a leading role (i know, i went there). Yet the media even then was busy Army bashing. This is biased journalism, and very unfair.

    I for one am running out of things to be proud of, i am sure you guys are too. Lets spare a few things like the National image and yes even the much maligned Army. A polar media serves no good. Tell the truth (not the current version, because its one sided. The chief justice is no sacred cow and Mush does not have horns and a trident), but keep it inside, seperate the feeds if you have to. No-one is going to come and help you out of a minor political jumble made major. Look at Darfur and Zimbabwe (places with real problems), the world is silent. There is no moral victory in telling everyone your house sucks and your dad beats your mom

  32. Truth has to be known says:
    June 4th, 2007 7:53 am

    Dr. Shahid Masood is a miser who makes normal news look entertaining… well that is what he is supposed to do i guess.
    But what has to be very seriously taken is that every News paper and news agency has a political policy and all the news presented are skewed to represent the view of the Financer of the News publisher.
    Another point here is that all news reporters are free lance and take money from the person who is trying to put the news across and when objected ligitimize things saying that they are free to say what ever they want…
    Why do you think only the opposition speaks on the media and never the govt, who has let them free in this country.
    Media is commercial and takes money to do all this and This is their True Face

  33. asa says:
    June 4th, 2007 7:56 am

    The major issue is not Musharaf’s abuse of power but the totalitarianism of the Pakistan’s military rulers i.e.the generals who rule the country in Pakistan. Abraham Lincoln said “Government of the people,by the people,for the people”, unfortunately for the powerless helpless people of Pakistan the message from Pakistan Army is clear: “Government of the generals, by the generals for the generals”.

  34. asa says:
    June 4th, 2007 7:57 am

    The issue in Pakistan is that army is the supreme institution.Hence we don’t have the rule of law, but the rule of the army. Musharraf has violated the constitution by declaring the Chief Justice (CJP) non-functional. There is no such provision in the constitution. He is also in contempt of court for summoning the CJP, meeting him in army uniform and then ordering ISI to raid his office. Time has come to make Pakistan a modern, progressive democratic state, free from the shackles of army rule.

  35. asa says:
    June 4th, 2007 7:58 am

    Unbelieveable!! Musharaff, had tried to bulldoze the another pillar of the sytem.

    Shameful behave with the chief justice, Attack on News media offices, shelling on the protestors.. … have earned shame on the part of the country

    This also demonstrates that Millitants ruler have no rational thinking

  36. asa says:
    June 4th, 2007 8:02 am

    God have mercy on this country and give sense to its rulers i.e. Generals.

  37. Sabahat says:
    June 4th, 2007 8:52 am

    Saad, there may be indeed no moral victory in telling the world that your dad beats your mom but there would certainly be a very real and tangible victory in saving such a woman from this kind of a fate. Because ultimately it is not about the sanctity of marriage as an institution but about the emotional and physical well being of people within that marriage.

    The marriage (like the country) was created for the benefit of the parties who choose to live within it. If the situation reaches a point where it starts becoming detrimental rather than beneficial, we should try to save it, in the case of marriage by hiring the services of a therapist perhaps, in the case of nations an active civil society, media or whoever else is concerned about the people’s well being. But if despite these attempts nothing works out both the marriage and the country can move towards an utter breakdown.

    What you are suggesting is a marriage where both parties suffer deeply but keep up a certain face to project to the world. Where inside the house people fling plates at each other, damage their children psychologically—but outside the house they project a fake image. The best idea to me seems to be to bring the trouble out in the open and deal with it, hiding never helped anyone.

  38. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    June 4th, 2007 8:53 am

    [quote post="727"]Why do you think only the opposition speaks on the media and never the govt,[/quote]

    yeah, Arbab Rahim,Wasi Zafar,Durrani and ahmed Raza qasoori belong to opposition.

  39. BitterTruth says:
    June 4th, 2007 9:18 am

    New ordinance by Mush will also cover internet !!
    Get ready for information blackout !!

  40. Saad says:
    June 4th, 2007 9:27 am

    Bitter – Can you please divulge into it’s details (the new ordinance that is)?

  41. Nasir says:
    June 4th, 2007 10:03 am
  42. June 4th, 2007 10:27 am

    well it is true that geo news transmission was blocked on sunday 3rd june 2007, after the start of program “meray mutabiq”. i am from rawalpindi cantt.and even today on monday when the same program was going to repeat geo news was off air, when i contected my cable operator , he told me that pemra has given strict orders to stop the transmission of geo news.its a shame, dr.shahid is doing a great job, and youth of pakistan is with him.he is unveiling the truths which were previously not discussed.we support our army, they are defending our country,but we dont support those who are involving in politics.i request to president of pakistan that for the best interest of pakistan ,he should leave the post of army chief, i request him to please dont involve our beloved army into politics and please please dont try to rule on the basis of gun,i am very much sure if you leave the post of cheif and participate in election as a civilian i tell u that youth of pakistan will surely 100% support u and make you the prime minister of pakistan.please president musharraf you are our elder , and i request you to please please leave the post of cheif!

  43. June 4th, 2007 10:27 am

    well it is true that geo news transmission was blocked on sunday 3rd june 2007, after the start of program “meray mutabiq”. i am from rawalpindi cantt.and even today on monday when the same program was going to repeat geo news was off air, when i contected my cable operator , he told me that pemra has given strict orders to stop the transmission of geo news.its a shame, dr.shahid is doing a great job, and youth of pakistan is with him.he is unveiling the truths which were previously not discussed.we support our army, they are defending our country,but we dont support those who are involving in politics.i request to president of pakistan that for the best interest of pakistan ,he should leave the post of army chief, i request him to please dont involve our beloved army into politics and please please dont try to rule on the basis of gun,i am very much sure if you leave the post of cheif and participate in election as a civilian i tell u that youth of pakistan will surely 100% support u and make you the prime minister of pakistan.please president musharraf you are our elder , and i request you to please please leave the post of cheif of army!

  44. June 4th, 2007 10:35 am

    think following steps can be taken to fight the PEMRA / CABLE MAFIA

    1. Buy a Dish Antena and a Reciever(a unit costs less than 5000 Rs) and share it with Mohalla / neigbours. Even better is to inject the signal in your cable connection :)

    2. Geo / Aaj / ARY may make available the hourly news and all talk shows in a format where people can download them to their mobiles and share with friends via bluetooth etc.

  45. June 4th, 2007 10:36 am

    following is the article which was published in the famous england news paper on sunday, do read it ,
    you can also check it on following link

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,2093572,00.html
    The Karachi ruling party ‘run like the mafia’ from an office block in London

    · MQM accused of planning carnage which left 42 dead
    · Khan calls for leader in UK to face anti-terror charges

    Declan Walsh in Karachi and Matthew Taylor
    Saturday June 2, 2007
    The Guardian

    Outside may be Karachi but inside the discreetly guarded room all minds are focused on London. The clock is set to British summer time and a pair of telephones connect to an office 5,000 miles away, from where a controversial Pakistani leader runs his political empire.

    Altaf Hussain leads the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) – a powerful, popular and, critics say, thuggish political force that has a vice-like grip on Karachi. At “Nine Zero”, the party headquarters in a middle-class suburb, his presence looms large. A giant poster hangs over the entrance and reverential acolytes speak of “Altaf bhai”, or brother. But the great leader is missing.

    The Karachi ruling party ‘run like the mafia’ from an office block in London

    · MQM accused of planning carnage which left 42 dead
    · Khan calls for leader in UK to face anti-terror charges

    Declan Walsh in Karachi and Matthew Taylor
    Saturday June 2, 2007
    The Guardian

    Outside may be Karachi but inside the discreetly guarded room all minds are focused on London. The clock is set to British summer time and a pair of telephones connect to an office 5,000 miles away, from where a controversial Pakistani leader runs his political empire.

    Altaf Hussain leads the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) – a powerful, popular and, critics say, thuggish political force that has a vice-like grip on Karachi. At “Nine Zero”, the party headquarters in a middle-class suburb, his presence looms large. A giant poster hangs over the entrance and reverential acolytes speak of “Altaf bhai”, or brother. But the great leader is missing.

    Article continues
    For the past 16 years Mr Hussain has lived in self-imposed exile in the UK, first as an asylum seeker and now as a British citizen. Based in an office block on Edgware High Street in north London he rules by phone, directing his closest lieutenants in long, late-night conversations. But in Pakistan that arrangement has become a matter of controversy – one about to land at the British government’s door.

    Yesterday the cricketer turned politician Imran Khan arrived in London to try to have Mr Hussain prosecuted under British anti-terror laws. Three weeks ago gunmen opened fire on a rally in support of the chief justice, Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, triggering a day of bloodshed that left 42 people dead. Mr Khan – as well as lawyers, human rights activists and opposition parties – accuse Mr Hussain of orchestrating the carnage from his sofa in London.

    “The whole thing was planned. No British citizen is allowed to sit in London and direct terrorist operations abroad. So why should Altaf Hussain?” said Mr Khan who described the MQM as “a fascist movement run by criminals”.

    If Pakistan has to arrest al-Qaida operatives then Britain has an obligation to pick up Mr Hussain, added Mr Khan, who plans to bring a petition to Downing Street. “There’s a war on terror going on but here we have Pakistan’s No 1 terrorist being given sanctuary by the British government,” he said.

    The MQM denies the charges, and insists it was the victim and not the perpetrator of May 12. The party says 13 of its own activists were among the dead, and last week it produced a video from May 12 showing apparent supporters of the rival Pakistan People’s party firing their guns in the air. “This is a conspiracy against us. Our decision to hold a rally on May 12 may be open to criticism, but we were not involved in armed attacks,” said Dr Farooq Sattar, head of the party in Pakistan.

    But Mr Hussain has little to say. At the MQM’s “International Secretariat” on Edgware High Street – a red brick office block opposite a supermarket – a party official said the leader was not available for comment. But he was happy to show the Guardian around the offices, which he confirmed was Mr Hussain’s London headquarters, and he vowed to repel any court action by Mr Khan.

    The fight is getting personal. Back in Karachi graffiti slurs against Imran Khan appeared on walls and the MQM-dominated local government has banned him from the city for one month.

    The MQM was founded in 1984 by Mr Hussain, a former Chicago cab driver, and won broad support among the “mohajirs” – Muslims who fled India after partition in 1947. The party prided itself on its well-oiled machine and its secular, liberal outlook. But it was also linked to extortion, gun smuggling and South African crime networks, according to a senior police officer speaking on condition of anonymity. “That’s what happens when a political party is run like the mafia,” he said.

    Local reporters have a rich store of-tales from the 1990s. One said she found a severed hand as a warning in her front garden, another was kidnapped from his home.

    But since it entered a coalition government with President Pervez Musharraf in 2002, the party has projected a different image based on secularism, economic development and support for the “war on terror”. Moderates such as the Karachi mayor, Mustafa Kamal, boast of new roads, sewage systems and billions of pounds in fresh investment. “MQM believes in every sect and religion. We are against extremism. We were the first people on the streets after 9/11,” he said.

    But since May 12 the party’s aspirations of becoming a national force lie in shreds, and there are worrying echoes of past tactics. On Tuesday, three Karachi journalists with foreign news agencies found unmarked envelopes containing a single bullet on their car windscreens. Two of them had earlier been denounced as “anti-mohajir” by the MQM-linked Muhajir Rabita Council.

    Will Mr Hussain ever come home? At Nine Zero, where beefy young men with baseball caps stand guard, there is little sign. “We do not want him to come back to Karachi; it is too dangerous here,” said parliamentarian Faisal Subzwari.

    But there is always hope. A few doors down Mr Hussain’s deserted terraced house is waiting, protected by blastproof metal shutters. For now, though, it has just one occupant – a 24-hour telephone operator.

  46. Asad Khan says:
    June 4th, 2007 10:52 am

    Saad, Coming late into the discussion here. Please make note of the following. This is the same guy who dragged the country’s top nuclear engineer in front of the world telling them that he tried to proliferate for personal gains, and has locked him up since without any chance of a defense. Where in the world can a sitting head of state write up a “tell it all” tale, and get away with it. He also had the audacity to stand in front of the American press in the white house and tell them that he is “honor bound to his publisher”. What about honor bound to the “160 million people of this country”. When Economist on its cover puts a picture of the dead in Karachi, we can’t blame our own media for tarnishing our image. Yes, maybe these guys cross the lines at times, but the world does not need them to know what is going on. I am no fan of images of kids holding butcher knives just before slaughtering another human, but I also don’t want the state to threaten journalists all over.

  47. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    June 4th, 2007 11:45 am

    I don’t think that this ban on the media is the beginning of the end for Musharraf and his coterie of Generals and PML(Q) walas. I think Pakistan is going the Zimbabwe way and soon the police would be beating any one to near death who speaks against the Army. That would be the end of the nation “Pakistan” as we know it.

  48. Aamir Ali says:
    June 4th, 2007 12:59 pm

    what happened to Musharraf? He used to be a courageous, intelligent fellow. Now he has degenerated into a foolish despot, damaging institutions and hurting people just to keep himself in power.

  49. Kruman says:
    June 4th, 2007 1:48 pm

    [quote comment="51675"]think following steps can be taken to fight the PEMRA / CABLE MAFIA

    1. Buy a Dish Antena and a Reciever(a unit costs less than 5000 Rs) and share it with Mohalla / neigbours. Even better is to inject the signal in your cable connection :)

    2. Geo / Aaj / ARY may make available the hourly news and all talk shows in a format where people can download them to their mobiles and share with friends via bluetooth etc.[/quote]

    Good ideas. I also think that lawyers should start recording the CJP’s visits to the bar associations themselves and upload them on video google. It is quite simple. There are a lot of people who’d be willing to do this if the lawyers make a video recording of their bar meetings.

    The viewership will be limited, but still the message will get out.

  50. Kruman says:
    June 4th, 2007 1:54 pm

    A draconian presidential ordinance has been promulgated today which threatens to seal private TV channel offices and confiscate all their equipment if PEMRA rules are “violated”.

    This ordinance seems to be straight out of Saddam Hussain’s book.

    Read more on this draconian law at bbc urdu website.

  51. Nasir says:
    June 4th, 2007 2:06 pm

    This is becoming big news.

    New controls on media in Pakistan

    President Pervez Musharraf has signed into immediate effect measures to increase control over the media.
    Current regulations related to television have been extended to the internet and mobile phones.

    Some regulations on who is allowed to be licensed to broadcast in Pakistan have been extended to cover “any foreign non-governmental organisation”.

    Gen Musharraf has been highly critical of the media in recent weeks over its coverage of opposition protests.

    Correspondents say Gen Musharraf is facing the most serious challenge to his rule from a coalition of opposition parties and groups.

    Their frequent street demonstrations mark the first big protest movement in Pakistan to take place as the country has entered an era of rapidly expanding, live TV news coverage.

    The protests were sparked off by Gen Musharraf’s suspension of the chief justice of the Supreme Court on 9 March.

    Threat to premises

    The amended media regulations were changed on Monday because “circumstances exist which render it necessary to take immediate action”, a government statement said.

    from beebeecee

  52. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    June 4th, 2007 2:07 pm

    [quote comment="51708"][quote comment="51675"]think following steps can be taken to fight the PEMRA / CABLE MAFIA

    1. Buy a Dish Antena and a Reciever(a unit costs less than 5000 Rs) and share it with Mohalla / neigbours. Even better is to inject the signal in your cable connection :)

    2. Geo / Aaj / ARY may make available the hourly news and all talk shows in a format where people can download them to their mobiles and share with friends via bluetooth etc.[/quote]

    Good ideas. I also think that lawyers should start recording the CJP’s visits to the bar associations themselves and upload them on video google. It is quite simple. There are a lot of people who’d be willing to do this if the lawyers make a video recording of their bar meetings.

    The viewership will be limited, but still the message will get out.[/quote]

    What if youtube is banned in Pakistan like it was in Turkey and Thailand?

  53. Lahori says:
    June 4th, 2007 7:32 pm

    If he were to just let the media say whatever and not interfere then people will stop paying attention. By doing these silly things like bans and everything he is making this even bigger than it is

  54. Kruman says:
    June 4th, 2007 2:39 pm

    Good point Ahmad! Then I guess the only beneficiaries will be overseas Pakistanis and there are millions of them in Europe, US and Middle East.

    Plus it will again highlight the hypocrisy of Musharraf, he claims to be an enlightened moderate but is following in the footsteps of Saddam, Karimov and Mugabe.

  55. cynic says:
    June 4th, 2007 2:44 pm

    [quote comment="51697"]what happened to Musharraf? He used to be a courageous, intelligent fellow. Now he has degenerated into a foolish despot, damaging institutions and hurting people just to keep himself in power.[/quote]

    That is the problem with us pakistanis. we make heroes out of boots and are then surprised to see that they have no brains. people all over the world decided a long time ago that if they had to have idiots as leaders, it was better to have representative idiots rather than despotic idiots.

  56. mujnoon says:
    June 4th, 2007 3:18 pm

    I wonder if there is a way for all of us that are outraged by the increasingly oppressive policies of Musharraf/Army to organize ourselves into a focused web campaign?

  57. June 4th, 2007 3:18 pm

    Cynic: I disagree that this his purely a belief-in-the-boots phenomenon.

    Musharraf had a message 8 years ago that resonated with the people who had seen enough horse-trading and lota-baazi in the assemblies. He, as a person, seemed to represent more than just the boots that brought him to power. It was an opportunity to create institutions and frameworks for true democracy to find some roots in Pakistan. We needed a technocratic government at the center to set up the right organizational frameworks and setups.

    But he lost his path and ventured towards all too familiar power-hoarding. He realized that the task before him (that he had promised the nation) was too difficult to achieve, partly because the people he assembled around him were all too eager to get the power they could not easily get with other governments.

    Musharraf bit more than he could chew, and kept digging himself into a deeper hole. The only way out for him seemed to hold onto power with the hope that miraculously good things would happen to save him from disgrace like those he had replaced a few years earlier. There is a pattern in all of this. He started with initiatives that had national support: decentralization of government, NAAB, police reforms, education reforms…Later he pandered and tried desperately to find big-hitters to get the confidence back: women’s rights, Kashmir policy, tribal feuds etc.

    He really needs a crisis manager who can advise him on how to get out of the hole has buried himself in. Unfortunately those surrounding (and isolating) him are the same people who failed to advise Nawaz and Benazir in similar situations and have no new ideas for Musharraf. Musharraf and his band of followers are so distant from the reality over which they rule that they have no idea how much it would help to simply be honest for a change. We will find a decent place for them to ‘retire’ to.

    All this is made more certain for me when I see who the Pakistanis are rallying around. Notice the absence of any political leaders: because we know them all too well to be corrupt. They are rallying around an unknown chief justice because they do not know much about him. Imran Khan is another one of those – at least we don’t know how he would be when he in the government, or TV talk show hosts. Where is the leadership? The leadership vacuum is identical to the one that brought Musharraf into power and allowed him to be accepted by people. I seriously think that if he left and even if the next in line General took over again, the nation would calm down for a while. We seem to need somebody, anybody but those in charge, now.

  58. Ejaz Asi says:
    June 4th, 2007 3:20 pm

    [quote comment="51606"][quote comment="51551"]I confirm this from F-7 sector in Islamabad. This is sad and ridiculous.[/quote]

    Actually its neither. As much as i dislike the guy (Mushaffar i-e), the blame for this cannot be attributed to him alone. Our media has gotten out of hand and has stooped to biased tabloid jouirnalism, clearly taking sides in a quixotic fit of righteousness. Nowhere in the world, America & UK included, can any network give so much coverage to the oppositions POV or bash the govt or country like Geo does here. Its high time these hacks were stopped. If you think i am taking a side, just stop to think for a second that their transmission goes to 40+ countries…what do you think they would think when sensationalists like Kamran Khan bellow hoarsly ‘khuda ka wasta hai apnay aap ko bachain’.

    Rant over[/quote]
    I have a humble request to you, please stick to the bright and examplory FOX News and CNN, who obviously hold a lot higher moral stature than any of our local news channels. At least for once, I feel like hitting your head for showing lack of any sense or brain and drawing parallels between extremely biased and full-of-lies Corporate Media of the west and an infant media of Pakistan.
    Apparently, you are the one who knows it all by himself and has presented us with a rhetoric we just so don’t want to hear. If the world would get to know how senseless and mindless military generals are in our country, let the world be known, for it was the same western media (get back to archives of CNN and your FOX news) who was praising Musharraf for his hawkish attitude, it was the same media and same world governments who felt Musharraf was a great ally. Is that the whole “IMAGE” and “NATIONAL INTEREST” all about?

    You certainly made me so sick I could hardly feel any interest of showing you the right from wrong.

  59. Saad says:
    June 4th, 2007 3:28 pm

    Curbs of Media – Live with Talat (Not so live anymore, since the show was pre-recorded)

    Part-1
    Part-2

  60. Kruman says:
    June 4th, 2007 3:36 pm

    [quote comment="51728"]I wonder if there is a way for all of us that are outraged by the increasingly oppressive policies of Musharraf/Army to organize ourselves into a focused web campaign?[/quote]

    Mujnoon, I just finished writing a letter to Nancy Pelosi which I will fax to her office. Also intend to send copies of the letter to Sen Clinton, Obama, John Edwards, Secretary Rice.

    The gist of the letter is:
    - It is not Musharraf vs the extremists as he has been trying to hoodwink the west. Pakistanis have never supported extremists.
    - The best line of defense in the war on terror is a democratic Pakistan where democratic institutions are strong and the consitution is supreme, not an army general
    - This is a historic occasion. If the movement spearheaded by lawyers is successful Pakistan will be the first true democracy in the Muslam world which is plagued by dictatorships. Isn’t this the reason why Bush invaded Iraq, to have model democracy in the Muslim world? Well this can be done in Pakistan by supported the “black-coat revolution”.

    I’d encourage you and others to write to people in Congress, government and the presidential hopefuls for 2008.

  61. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    June 4th, 2007 3:37 pm

    [quote comment="51721"]Good point Ahmad! Then I guess the only beneficiaries will be overseas Pakistanis and there are millions of them in Europe, US and Middle East.

    Plus it will again highlight the hypocrisy of Musharraf, he claims to be an enlightened moderate but is following in the footsteps of Saddam, Karimov and Mugabe.[/quote]

    Those millions living abroad, including myself, are now my only hope for their are darker clouds over there in Pakistan and the people of Pakistan may be getting ready for even worse. I just hope that it doesn’t become another Burma or Zimbabwe.

  62. Lahori says:
    June 6th, 2007 10:19 pm

    Govt seems to be flipping its PERMA policy. Will be good for country if they get sense and scrap it. This in News today:

    ——-

    The government has suspended any proceedings under the Pemra Amendment Ordinance against the electronic media till a six-member committee reviews the recent changes in the ordinance and submits its report to the prime minister.

    According to a statement issued late on Wednesday night, the committee will submit its report to the prime minister within the shortest possible time and till such time the proceedings under the Pemra Amendment Ordinance, 2007 will not be initiated against electronic media.

    A meeting of the TV channels and newspapers’ owners was held with Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz in Islamabad on the matter concerning the recently promulgated Pemra Amendment Ordinance.

    Federal Minister for Information Muhammad Ali Durrani, Secretary Information Syed Anwar Mahmood and Secretary General PML Mushahid Hussain Sayed represented the government side.

    The meeting was also attended by the Chairman Pakistan Broadcasters Association (PBA), Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman, President, All Pakistan Newspapers Society (APNS), Hameed Haroon, Secretary-General, APNS, Muhammad Aslam Kazi and Arif Nizami of APNS.

    After the prime minister heard the representation made by the media delegation with respect to the withdrawal of the ordinance, it was decided that all options of Pemra Amendment Ordinance, promulgated on June 4, 2007, would be reviewed in totality by the six-member committee, comprising three members, one each from PBA, APNS and CPNE and three senior government officials from the Federal Ministry of Information, Ministry of Law and Pemra.

    The prime minister assured the media delegation that all actions in this regard would be taken in a spirit of mutual tolerance and in the interest of principles of justice. The final report of this committee will explore all alternatives and options or a modified Pemra Ordinance 2007 with attendant rules and regulations. The prime minister reiterated the commitment of President Gen Pervez Musharraf and the government to preserve, protect and promote a free media in the country.

  63. Lahori says:
    June 5th, 2007 4:48 pm

    The letest from The News website:

    KARACHI: The government has restored the transmissions of Geo News in various parts of country after ban on the most popular TV channel of the country for over 38 hours.

    However, transmissions of Geo News still remain suspended at some parts of the country.

    The calls of the viewers also flooded the office of Geo Television network on Tuesday but they expressed happiness over the resumption transmissions of Geo News unlike the Sunday calls in which they expressed anger and condemned the suspension of transmissions of their favourite TV channel.

    The viewers said that Geo News was the only the News channel of the country which keeps the people informed about national and international situation at every moment.

  64. Sohail says:
    June 4th, 2007 3:50 pm

    Imran’s interview at CNBC Pakistan..a must see till the end.All 6 parts

  65. Lahori says:
    June 4th, 2007 10:00 pm

    Seems like a bit of a useless debate. The 37 percent or whatever is NOT necessarily in support of Musharraf. The question is whether they think there will be elections in 2007 as planned or not. People who are against Musharraf but think that he will stay in power would still vote Yes to that question. On other hand you could be in support of him and still vote for one of other options. like voting that things are moving too fast. So, this poll cannot be relate dto Musharraf support. Maybe you should have a poll on that and see?

  66. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    June 4th, 2007 4:13 pm

    Soahil, use the url shrinking service http://tinyurl.com

  67. menu/exit says:
    June 4th, 2007 4:22 pm

    It’s about time for the YouTube revoulution!

  68. Aqil Sajjad says:
    June 4th, 2007 4:38 pm

    Dear Ahmad Shahid:
    I don’t think the Zimbabwe route is that likely because the military has a business empire that will suffer if the economy comes under strain due to economic sanctions and isolation. If that happens, the military itself will probably want to get rid of Mush because its institutional interests are more important than an individual.

  69. Saad says:
    June 4th, 2007 4:47 pm

    Someone should ask AAJ and Geo people to enter in a content delivery deal with You Tube. And if Gov. of Pakistan bans it, they’ll have to deal with international furore.

  70. Ahmad R. Shahid says:
    June 4th, 2007 4:48 pm

    [quote comment="51748"]Dear Ahmad Shahid:
    I don’t think the Zimbabwe route is that likely because the military has a business empire that will suffer if the economy comes under strain due to economic sanctions and isolation. If that happens, the military itself will probably want to get rid of Mush because its institutional interests are more important than an individual.[/quote]

    I probably agree with your contention about Zimbabwe, as far as military’s corporate interests are concerned. But in Zimbabwe too the partners of Mugabe have vast corporate empires and they must also be suffering from all the economic woes of the country, yet are reluctant to go against Mugabe. In fact I have tried much and have failed to comprehend what really is transpiring over there.

    Guinea is also facing worst kind of dictatorship under Conte yet under people’s pressure it bowed down and heeded to their demands. I wonder why the same couldn’t happen in Zimbabwe. Despite over 3000% inflation, 80% unemployment and protests nothing really is changing in Zimbabwe.

    Also still couldn’t it go the Burma way? Where the military holds complete sway on every aspect of life.

  71. Aamir Ali says:
    June 4th, 2007 4:55 pm

    is anyone in Pakistan’s army or intelligence services even thinking of the damaging effect these attacks on freedom and judiciary are having on Pakistan? Are they cowards or do they think army/ISI is all that matters in pakistan???

    I wish the army would pause to think for 5 minutes. This entire judicial and political crisis is created by Musharraf. That geedar wont even take responsiblity, instead he blames the media!

  72. bitterTruth says:
    June 4th, 2007 4:57 pm

    Clip of program Mairay Mutabiq which sparks ban on Geo channel

    Mairay Mutabbiq with Dr. Shahid Masood

  73. Aqil Sajjad says:
    June 4th, 2007 5:38 pm

    I don’t think it was this clip that triggered action against geo. The channel was blocked in many parts of the country before this program was even aired. In my opinion, what has probably made the govt really mad at Shahid Masood is his commentary on the previous day (saturday) where he mentioned the last days of the Shah of Iran. It was really worth listening to; I wish I could have recorded it and shared with everyone.

  74. Kruman says:
    June 4th, 2007 6:16 pm

    [quote comment="51697"]what happened to Musharraf? He used to be a courageous, intelligent fellow. Now he has degenerated into a foolish despot, damaging institutions and hurting people just to keep himself in power.[/quote]

    “Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” Lord Acton.

  75. Kruman says:
    June 4th, 2007 6:24 pm

    [quote comment="51734"][quote comment="51721"]Good point Ahmad! Then I guess the only beneficiaries will be overseas Pakistanis and there are millions of them in Europe, US and Middle East.

    Plus it will again highlight the hypocrisy of Musharraf, he claims to be an enlightened moderate but is following in the footsteps of Saddam, Karimov and Mugabe.[/quote]

    Those millions living abroad, including myself, are now my only hope for their are darker clouds over there in Pakistan and the people of Pakistan may be getting ready for even worse. I just hope that it doesn’t become another Burma or Zimbabwe.[/quote]

    “No army can stop the march of an idea, the time for which has come.” Mr Muneer A. Malik in his speech at the supreme court auditorium on May 26, 2007. It is also available on youtube if you search for “Muneer Malik”.

    Nothing can stop the “black-coat revolution” in Pakistan now, God willing.

  76. Eidee Man says:
    June 4th, 2007 6:24 pm

    [quote comment="51733"]
    Mujnoon, I just finished writing a letter to Nancy Pelosi which I will fax to her office. Also intend to send copies of the letter to Sen Clinton, Obama, John Edwards, Secretary Rice.
    [/quote]

    Just a word of advice…if you’re not a U.S. citizen, do not do anything like that…there are laws which bar us nonimmigrants from taking part in politics.

  77. menu/exit says:
    June 4th, 2007 6:25 pm

    Can someone link the video Aqil Sajjad mentioned above?

  78. Kruman says:
    June 4th, 2007 7:07 pm

    [quote comment="51775"][quote comment="51733"]
    Mujnoon, I just finished writing a letter to Nancy Pelosi which I will fax to her office. Also intend to send copies of the letter to Sen Clinton, Obama, John Edwards, Secretary Rice.
    [/quote]

    Just a word of advice…if you’re not a U.S. citizen, do not do anything like that…there are laws which bar us nonimmigrants from taking part in politics.[/quote]

    Good point, I was not aware of that.
    I am a US citizen though.

  79. steve says:
    June 4th, 2007 7:23 pm

    Mush made some big mistakes early on, for which he’s paying now. One, a dictatorial regime should NEVER allow anything that increases drastic spread of information. Private TV and Internet do just this. In the late stages, he made the mistake of trying to ‘legitimately’ get rid of the CJ. Bad idea – should have bumped him off. Mush obviously thinks of himself as a ‘fair play’ hero. If only he had seen himself for what he is – a thug with power – early on, he would have been rather safe and sound for at least a bit longer.

    I think he will get through this too. Bend over a bit more to the Pak elites and Texas master and while they look away, bring the hammer down on the stupid CJ. After short term flare-up of emotions, as things cool off, he can dismantle the new media and put in place a truly military regime. To fund all this, he needs to deliver Mullah Omar or Zawahiri to Bush.

  80. MQ says:
    June 4th, 2007 7:45 pm

    [quote]Just a word of advice…if you’re not a U.S. citizen, do not do anything like that…there are laws which bar us nonimmigrants from taking part in politics. [/quote]

    I am not aware of any bar on writing a letter to a US Senator or a Congressman or even to the president. Writing a letter and taking part in US politics are two different things. Aren’t they?

  81. Aqil Sajjad says:
    June 4th, 2007 8:04 pm

    Protestors at the demonstration in Islamabad have given the govt and cable operators 72 hours to restore the blocked channels otherwise they will cut the main cables of the operators.
    http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/jun-2007/5/nationalnews1.php

    People should call their cable operators and threaten to stop payments if they support the government. One can understand if the cable operators are forced to closed down certain channels by the government, but the way their association has overtly sided with the govt by announcing that they will monitor and automatically stop any channels showing programs against the military or judiciary is not good and they should get due flack for it.

  82. faraz says:
    June 4th, 2007 8:11 pm

    [quote comment="51549"]Here is the clip after which Geo TV was banned.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko1fbP1iGaE/quote

    Well Musharaf is not doing good but what is alternatives? Others will turn pakistan walfare state for Zardari Inc. or Itefaq Inc. Better solution is to have free election with Musharaf as president and some other as army chief. Then amry should be given 5 years to go back where it was at 1999. As for media, there is no such thing as total free media in anywhere in world. Unstability is not good for economy and we know there is no silver bullets.

  83. Owais Mughal says:
    June 4th, 2007 8:25 pm

    Towards top right of this page, in the polls carried out by ATP, a majority of people 37% still seem to favour President and his promises. Therefore putting one-sided comments on this post may not be telling us the whole picture.

  84. Lal Salaam says:
    June 4th, 2007 8:32 pm

    [quote post="727"]Towards top right of this page, in the polls carried out by ATP, a majority of people 37% still seems to favour President and his promises. [/quote]

    Owais, I don’t think the 37% are favouring Mush. I think it is an opinion given the propensity of the General to “chipkofy” to power and wardi…even if it means to hell with Pakistan.
    And I am really not sure why Musharraf was ever looked at as a Messiah. I never had a visceral hatred for his person like I did for Zia… but I am afraid given Mush’s “kurtoot” that feeling is fast changing.

  85. Owais Mughal says:
    June 4th, 2007 8:38 pm

    Lal Salam. I enjoyed reading the word ‘chipkofy’ :) This was creative

  86. Moeen Bhatti says:
    June 4th, 2007 8:59 pm

    If they snatch my ink and pen,
    I should not complain,
    For I have dipped my fingers
    In the blood of my heart.
    I should not complain
    Even if they seal my tongue,
    For every ring of my chain
    Is a tongue ready to speak.
    Faiz Ahmad Faiz

    Translated by Azfar Hussain

  87. MQ says:
    June 4th, 2007 9:10 pm

    Owais,

    [quote]a majority of people, 37%, still seem to favour President and his promises.[/quote]

    Since when 37% became a majority?

  88. Owais Mughal says:
    June 4th, 2007 9:29 pm

    Don’t take it out on me plz :) 37% is the largest number as of today in above polls. It may change though and then I’ll gladly take my claim back :)

  89. Aamir Ali says:
    June 4th, 2007 9:56 pm

    MQ:

    Even if 37% of blind supporters vote for Musharraf, it doesnt make it right or good for Pakistan.

    Assault on judiciary and muzzling the media is not good for the country. Its purpose is to hide truth and to stay in power.

  90. June 4th, 2007 10:14 pm

    By way of update, here is Dawn’s report on the new press curbs:

    ISLAMABAD, June 4: President Pervez Musharraf on Monday imposed fresh curbs on the electronic media in the second such move within three days, sparking protests from journalists, politicians and lawyers. The Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority (Amendment) Ordinance (2007), issued just two days before the commencement of a National Assembly session, empowers the Pemra to take action on its own against television channels which violated rules. The move virtually undoes some of the major provisions of a law passed by parliament three months ago after a two-year debate and consultations with the stakeholders.

    The ordinance authorises the Pemra to confiscate the equipment of broadcasters and seal the premises without consulting a council of complaints. The council was envisaged in the amendments passed in February. The amendment increased the fine for violators to Rs10 million from the existing Rs1 million. Soon after the promulgation of the ordinance, journalists took to streets in Islamabad and demonstrated outside the prime minister’s secretariat after a meeting of the Pakistan Federal Union of Journalists (PFUJ). They were later joined by torch-bearing sympathisers from political parties and non-governmental organisations.

    Organisations representing politicians and lawyers condemned the move while the parliamentary opposition announced plans to requisition a special session of the National Assembly’s standing committee on information. It would also move a resolution of disapproval in the Senate. The decree followed controversial directives issued by the Pemra on Saturday, barring television networks from airing talk shows and carrying out live coverage of events relating to the judicial crisis.

    Some 10 amendments were made in the Pemra (Amendment) Act passed in February this year. An amended sub-section (5) of Section 29 reads: “Provided further that the Authority or the chairman may seize a broadcast or distribution service equipment or seal the premises which is operating illegally or (in) contravention of orders passed under Section 30.â€

  91. Fawad says:
    June 4th, 2007 10:19 pm

    Mughal Sahib,

    Without commenting on the substance of your comment, 37% is not a majority. Majority constitutes over 50% of the votes cast. The largest share of votes that remain short of a majority are referred to as a plurality.

  92. Owais Mughal says:
    June 4th, 2007 10:24 pm

    Fawad. I’ll take your definition of majority. thx. guess i was wrong.

  93. Akbar A. says:
    June 4th, 2007 11:07 pm

    A sober analysis on this by Adil Najam in editorial section of The News today:

    http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=59182

    I liked his last paragraph:

    “Just like issuing threats and sermons on the ‘sanctity’ of the military is not going to restore the respect and dignity of that institution, clamping down on the media is also not going to make prickly political problems disappear. The problem is not with those who are reporting the news. The problem is with the news itself. The respect for the military will be restored when the behavior of the military top brass changes. And the ‘ugly pictures’ in the media that are so bothersome to the government will disappear when there are no ugly situations to report on.”

  94. Moeen Bhatti says:
    June 4th, 2007 10:55 pm

    Pls. listen to Roundtable talk on Voice of America:

  95. Lal Salaam says:
    June 4th, 2007 10:58 pm

    Remember, in a meeting a few weeks back-I think it was after the May 12 bloodbath-Mush had told his supporters to stand steadfast, and that he will deal with the media. The interview with Kabir Wasti in “Meray Mutabiq” was very interesting. I wonder why the media has not picked it up. Cleary, all is not in order in the house of the Q League.

  96. Saad says:
    June 4th, 2007 11:05 pm

    Taking into account the speed with which things are diteriorating in Pakistan, how long would it take before we see public floggings of journalists for carrying out ‘anti-state’ activities? Gen Zia is back!

  97. Eidee Man says:
    June 5th, 2007 12:30 am

    [quote comment="51792"][quote]Just a word of advice…if you’re not a U.S. citizen, do not do anything like that…there are laws which bar us nonimmigrants from taking part in politics. [/quote]

    I am not aware of any bar on writing a letter to a US Senator or a Congressman or even to the president. Writing a letter and taking part in US politics are two different things. Aren’t they?[/quote]

    Well, I’m not sure myself. The thing is that there definitely are laws that bar participation in internal affairs. Now, how do we define internal affairs…I don’t know about you, but I would not like to have that debate with the INS.

  98. Adonis says:
    June 5th, 2007 1:55 am

    [quote comment="51722"][quote comment="51697"]what happened to Musharraf? He used to be a courageous, intelligent fellow. Now he has degenerated into a foolish despot, damaging institutions and hurting people just to keep himself in power.[/quote]

    That is the problem with us pakistanis. we make heroes out of boots and are then surprised to see that they have no brains. people all over the world decided a long time ago that if they had to have idiots as leaders, it was better to have representative idiots rather than despotic idiots.[/quote]

    Brilliantly put. I agree 100%.

    I hated Musharraf from day 1. We are human beings, not cattle. We have a right to choose whoever we want to govern us. I would take even a corrupt politician like BB over musharraf any day. At least I can vote her out. Those who supported musharraf and are still doing so are mostly the ones who always complain about politicians but never bother to vote themselves.

  99. ahsan says:
    June 5th, 2007 1:56 am

    37% of vote is for the proposition of:

    [quote]We WILL have elections under President Musharraf, as planned.[/quote]

    It is neither for nor against Musharraf. It is simply in favour of the proposition. Some of the voters may be in favour and some others against Musharraf, but the majority may be those of cynics and the realists.

  100. menu/exit says:
    June 5th, 2007 2:02 am

    All this argument over a measly ATP poll? Are you kidding me? The poll on this blog means nothing. It cannot be accepted as true representation of opinion. Guys, give me a break and go take a class in Elementary Statistics and Polling.

  101. Aqil Sajjad says:
    June 5th, 2007 2:10 am

    Setting aside this debate on the previous poll, it might be interesting to have a separate poll to see how many people here still support Mush and how many want him to go.

  102. Asad Khan says:
    June 5th, 2007 2:22 am

    I have an issue with loosely using the word “Army”, and how the state is capitalizing on that to rein in freedom. The only reason Army is mentioned is because the head of the state is in Uniform. Any criticism of the Army, loosely used, is thus a criticism of “the man”, and not “the Army” as an institution. As is common knowledge, Army takes its orders from the top. The question of dissent does not arise, as that is not how the institution works. Hence Musharraf’s insistence on staying in Uniform (and whatever he needs to do to stay that way) is his own personal decision, and Army as an institution can’t be blamed for it. His advisers too, other than his PSO, are all civilians, and so is his legal team.
    Now anyone from the state, including Qaaf league ministers, who claims that the criticism is anti-state and a criticism of the Army is wrong, as he is mainly taking advantage of the loose use of the term. The point of the argument is that the state uses this to its own advantage to clamp down on any opposition, which is happening now. I for one have great respect for the institution and the sacrifices that it has made for national security over the years. But I am dead against Musharraf at this point in time, as he has lost the moral authority to run this country any more.

  103. Saad says:
    June 5th, 2007 3:46 am

    [quote comment="51730"][quote comment="51606"][quote comment="51551"]I confirm this from F-7 sector in Islamabad. This is sad and ridiculous.[/quote]

    Actually its neither. As much ….sensationalists like Kamran Khan bellow hoarsly ‘khuda ka wasta hai apnay aap ko bachain’.

    Rant over[/quote]
    I have a humble request to you, please stick to the bright and examplory FOX News and CNN, who obviously hold a lot higher moral stature than any of our local news channels. At least for once, I feel like hitting your head for showing lack of any sense or brain and drawing parallels between extremely biased and full-of-lies Corporate Media of the west and an infant media of Pakistan.
    Apparently, you are the one who knows it all by himself and has presented us with a rhetoric we just so don’t want to hear. If the world would get to know how senseless and mindless military generals are in our country, let the world be known, for it was the same western media (get back to archives of CNN and your FOX news) who was praising Musharraf for his hawkish attitude, it was the same media and same world governments who felt Musharraf was a great ally. Is that the whole “IMAGE” and “NATIONAL INTEREST” all about?

    You certainly made me so sick I could hardly feel any interest of showing you the right from wrong.[/quote]

    Wow! Strong feelings you have for me Mr. Asi, you sure you dont want to take me to dinner first?

    Anyhow, everyone is entitled to his/her point of view. Before the discussion degenerated from a Media-censorship to i-hate-musharraf bandwagon, my point was and remains the same…Lets solve our problems internally ourselves and not cry to the world about it, because nobody wants to help you.

    Dont listen to the media, dont listen to the government. Both lie, also this ‘problem’ is obsolete for this day and age. India & China are looking to touch the moon and we are in a huff that the CJ (how dare he) came to karachi.

    Make up your own minds. Otherwise we’ll end up making Asi’s of ourselves

  104. amjshah says:
    June 5th, 2007 3:49 am

    I have gone through the contents of Saad messages. I would like to place on record that majority of the Pakistanis don’t consider anyone sacred cow. Nobody and I once again repeat that nobody is above criticism inclusive of army, politicians, mullahs, civil authorities, business communities, waderas, sardars etc. Since independence Pakistan had remained under the control of establishment. What is establishment? Establishment is a frame mind which in its own wisdom considers that people of Pakistan are not fit to rule the country through universally acknowledged and practiced democratic norms. During last 60 years the people of Pakistan have been deprived of their fundamental right of governance of the people, by the people and for the people. Not only this basic right of the nation was trampled upon by the military dictators but even politicians like ZAB, Benazir and Nawaz Sharif considered the people of Pakistan their own personal property. The political parties with few exceptions are not political parties in true sense but in fact are group of cronies of self styled self claimed leaders who like military dictators consider themselves above all criticism not only in their party structure but even from the judiciary and press what to talk of common people. It was only for this reason that one of them termed the judiciary as kangaroo courts and other had the guts of attacking the Supreme Court. No doubt the judiciary in the past has played a dubious role by succumbing not only to the military dictators but even to the civil dictators The Political parties are headed by the leaders who instead of behaving like a politician has always behaved and acted like Kings and Queens. No elections are held in the political parties as thugs are adjusted by the super thugs in their party structure. The time has come to wriggle out of this situation. I fully endorse the views of Fakhruddin G Ibrahim that the defining moment of our history has arrived. The people of Pakistan have to decide that whether they want to live a life of honor or a life of subservience to the military dictators or civilian thugs. A long struggle is to be made to achieve this end. The struggle is on. For the first time in the history of Pakistan a person has stood up against the establishment. He deserves support of every citizen of Pakistan who wants to have a rule of law and constitutional supremacy in the country. Likewise our media also deserves our wholehearted support as these two pillars of the country are the real representatives of the nation and it is through their force that the people of Pakistan can keep control on the chain of events and could turn Pakistan into social welfare state. We don’t consider Pakistan a National Security State. Everyone sitting at the helm of affairs is answerable to the people of Pakistan and we Pakistanis had every right to know that what is taking place in the country or in the corridors of powers. We demand that press and judiciary should be unchained. The press should be free to say and show what they consider right and let the people of Pakistan decide that what is wrong or right. If anyone feels that the press is not depicting the true picture then they should approach the judicial forums instead of curbing the media. The present regime wants the media to propagate and show what they consider as right or wrong. It is for this reason they are placing curbs on the press/media. The present regime wants that the judiciary should endorse the policies and decision of the ruling junta and the main hurdle in this thinking CJP has been proceeded against in very ghastly manner; a precedent unavailable in the civilized and liberal societies. Look at the photo of Corps Commanders present in the meeting, laughing and smiling as they are our masters and we the people of Pakistan their slaves. They have every right to smile as they are the Directors of the Pakistan Military Incorporated; one of the biggest looters of Pakistan. The resources of Pakistan are not only looted by the Pakistan Military Incorporated but our civilian rulers of the past have also considered the national wealth of the country as their personal property. The resources of the people of Pakistan are being exploited and looted by less then 1% of the population that is called Establishment. The Establishment includes Army, Civil Bureaucracy, Business Communities and Organizations, Political Leaders, Political Parties, Mullahs etc. This system apart from economic resources also controls the oppressive forces of the state and has always succeded either putting an end to the peoples struggle through use of force or by hijacking the aspirations of people through military take overs. Only solution to forestall the march of establishment is completely free Media/Press and Independent Judiciary. The people of Pakistan should be free to criticize the working and decisions of every organ of the state including judiciary. The country is for the people not for the establishment or looters. The struggle for Pakistan was waged by the masses under the leadership of a lawyer. The country achieved on the basis of constitutional struggle and could only be governed and saved on the basis of rule of law. Let us stand up and declare in unequivocal terms that we want free press/media and complete independent judiciary. If we succeeded in achieving this goal I am sure our country will find a respectable and dignified place in the nations of the world. Long Live Pakistan and Long Live People of Pakistan.

  105. Saad says:
    June 5th, 2007 4:12 am

    @amjshah:
    Please read Asad Khan’s contribution (above my last one)…the guy talks sense. Bash Musharraf all you want, but bashing the Army is like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Both are seperate, Army & Musharraf, its just how the system and chain of command works. The Corps commander has the right to smile, take antacid if it burns you so much.

    Going off topic a little, but i am honestly looking for alternatives. If you want civilian rule, please name a civilian i can vote for. I voted for Imran Khan the last time and probably will do so again, but he aint gonna win is he (he has no party to speak of)? So who is better than Musharraf?

  106. Adonis says:
    June 5th, 2007 4:46 am

    The struggle is not against one man only. It is against the domination of military over all other institutions of the state. Musharraf is just an ugly manifestation of a mindset that treats people of Pakistan as serfs of military.

    A real reconciliation can only take place once a restructuring of military is accomplished. A single army chief who is more powerful than elected prime ministers is no more acceptable. There is a need to divide army into separate commands and abolition of the COAS post.

    Involvement of military in businesses must end and creation of defence housing societies on the lands acquired ostensibly for military needs must be stopped forthwith.

  107. Saqib Malik says:
    June 5th, 2007 5:35 am

    I think we all need to refer to PEMRA website (http://www.pemra.gov.pk/) and need to read the 2002 ordinance which is applied on all of these private chennels and their agreement with govt is signed under these conditions. I am not asking to look at the new ordinance issued by General.
    Accoding to old ordinance, these TV channels should be banned WELL before this not just because of political coverage but for not following the code of conduct. Even some programs of PTV does not fulfill these code of conduct.
    A voice of family man with little childeren at home.

  108. Adonis says:
    June 5th, 2007 5:46 am

    [quote comment="51908"]I think we all need to refer to PEMRA website (http://www.pemra.gov.pk/) and need to read the 2002 ordinance which is applied on all of these private chennels and their agreement with govt is signed under these conditions. I am not asking to look at the new ordinance issued by General.
    Accoding to old ordinance, these TV channels should be banned WELL before this not just because of political coverage but for not following the code of conduct. Even some programs of PTV does not fulfill these code of conduct.
    A voice of family man with little childeren at home.[/quote]

    Then these channels (as well as PTV) should have been banned well before.

    The timing of the present action clearly shows that it is a desperate last ditch effort of a crumbling regime.

  109. Eidee Man says:
    June 5th, 2007 7:14 am

    [quote comment="51871"]Setting aside this debate on the previous poll, it might be interesting to have a separate poll to see how many people here still support Mush and how many want him to go.[/quote]

    Yeah…if I remember correctly, in one of the polls, the readers of this site actually chose Ayub Khan as the best leader….just shows you how quickly opinions change and that some of us never learn about dictators…btw, I didn’t “vote” for Ayub.

  110. adeel says:
    June 5th, 2007 7:26 am

    Well certainly banning channels will not stop well certainly banning channels will not stop the truth reaching to common man. The government should realise that in today’s age it is not possible to halt information. The surprising element in this whole fiasco is that PTV is not bound to obey PEMRA rules whereas all other private channels are. The other aspect is that PTV always propagates Government Agenda. As a nation here we have to take a stance on our freedom of expression and we should not let government to decide ‘what to hear or what to see’. It is our own right as a citizen of free country. If we are denied of this right it’s mean that we are not living in a free country in fact we are ‘army slaves’.

  111. Saad says:
    June 5th, 2007 7:30 am

    Adeel – We’re in fact slaves to our brethren in the camo (it’s not khaaki anymore). It’s an established fact.

  112. BitterTruth says:
    June 5th, 2007 9:54 am

    I think Geo is the most obedient of mainstream news channels, the owners Rahman brothers have always tried to avoid conflict with army and MQM, yet they got banned, now for around two days. If Mush cant tolerate it, the only channel remains is PTV that fulfills government criteria.

  113. amjshah says:
    June 5th, 2007 10:15 am

    Saad It is the right of the people to choose the leader of their choice to form a government and manage the affair of the state. However this should be done through free, fair and transparent elections conducted under the command of honest caretaker set up. I am fully convinced that we can find a bunch of honest people to do this service for the nation. It is upto the people if they elect thugs or man of principles. The army has no right to rule the nation. It is for this reason that I advocate for free media and independent judiciary because only through these organs we can place check on the activities of the thugs, civilian as well as thugs in uniform.

  114. Asad Khan says:
    June 5th, 2007 10:23 am

    Adonis, Though related, it is another topic. I have ordered my copy of “Military Inc.”, (from Amazon). Perhaps the moderators can start a discussion on that once enough folks have read through it. Ayesha Siddiqa (author) was on “Kamraan Khan” last night. Did anybody else see that?

  115. Kruman says:
    June 5th, 2007 10:34 am

    [quote comment="51956"]Adonis, Though related, it is another topic. I have ordered my copy of “Military Inc.”, (from Amazon). Perhaps the moderators can start a discussion on that once enough folks have read through it. Ayesha Siddiqa (author) was on “Kamraan Khan” last night. Did anybody else see that?[/quote]

    It was a balanced and an objective program about Dr Ayesha Siddiqa’s new book. The author and Gen (retd) Zarar Azim were the guests. I am surprised why the govt blocked the program.

  116. Asad Khan says:
    June 5th, 2007 11:31 am

    I did not notice that Adil already had a blog about the book. As for the discussion on Kamraan Khan, yes, it was very balanced. It was surprising to see General Zaraar on the show in the current environment. From the discussion, the only part that I found critical of their operations was the residential schemes. Actually an analyst also came on, who was all praise about their commercial interests, and how these are run. According to him the return on equity on these (Fauji Fertiliser and Askari Bank to name two) is comparable to any other similar operations run on commercial grounds.

  117. MQ says:
    June 5th, 2007 1:41 pm

    Here is an interesting article in the Time magazine on the CJ’s trip to Abbottabad. It even mentions the new Punjabi folk song, which is fast rising to the top of the charts “chach wardi landha kiyuN naeeN — Pension lay ke jaanda kiyuN naeeN:

    time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1628168,00.html

  118. Adnan Ahmad says:
    June 5th, 2007 2:28 pm

    In all honesty for a while I have been thinking about the slogan that Ayaz Amir used as the title of his article:

    Aik dhakka aur, one push more

    He is on full throttle. I do believe he was one of the reasons behind the lahore reception.. at least by the lawers abd the judges. And for that reason he should continue in this gear.

    I would like MQM, the entire Chauhdry clan and all Shortcuts to be history with this push. Given tentative moves of PPP and MMA, the country will be better off without them as well.

  119. MQ says:
    June 5th, 2007 3:59 pm

    Can you name the person who:

    1. Holds a very important position in the Q government

    2. Often dresses like a parish priest

    3. Talks like a robot

    4. Says nothing substantial

    5. Smiles only when his boss does

    Do you need more hints?

  120. Kruman says:
    June 5th, 2007 4:21 pm

    There has been no news of Kabir Ali Wasti since the interview in Meray Mutabiq when he ran bull in Musharraf’s china shop. I wonder if he is dead or alive, or if he has joined the list of missing persons.

    If the Q league politicians in the parliament have even an iota of patriotism they should start impeachment proceedings in the parliament.

  121. Ahmed Shah says:
    June 5th, 2007 4:29 pm

    The opposition parties unfortunately played into the hands of the government . They had been waiting for an opportunity and that opportunity came during the seminar at Supreme court . The comments made were rational and the entire show gave the impression that people were playing for the television . Mr kurd i am certain would be a great lawer ,after seeing his ‘performace’ and his ability to distort facts and his lack of selfcontrol and political statemnts ,siding with the opposition
    THis is a situation where ” enemy of my enemy is my friend ” does not fit . THe opposition pary are unfortunatley more corrupt then the present government . It would be a tragedy if the current setup gets replaced by the ex so called leaders. who sing a long but rarely deliver .

  122. June 5th, 2007 4:41 pm

    this was sadly, something all to obvious and inevitable. mush loved the media bcoz of the way it supported him in his early days, and he nurtured it, encouraging ‘free speech’ because it encouraged the then meek and scared media to speak up against the corruption of the prev govt, hence legitimising his claim to the throne.

    mush now realises that free speech can be a double edged sword.

    anyone with a shred of awareness during the last few years could sense that the emboldening of the media and outspoken channels like geo and aaj would lead to a clash with the present setup. mush allowed the people to have a more and more powerful voice, but he shows us now that he never had the capacity to hear it himself.

    the media has become a great power for change and recent developments in pakistan are testament to the incredible power of free speech. to speak out against apparent injustice is a jihad.

    i may sound like i am overdramatising, but i really believe that these people will be remebered in history. channels like geo, aaj, and sites like pakistaniat.com have given the people a voice. even in other parts of the world like egypt, syria, or lebanon, bloggers are voicing themselves and truly affecting a change.

    people like hamid mir and dr shahid masood are truly heroes in their courage, integrity and patriotism.

    gone are the days of the 9 o clock ptv ‘Bhuttonama’ or ‘Nawaznama’ or ‘Musharrafnama’. the voice of the people is a force to be reckoned with!

    to the people i say :
    “bolnay ka mauka mila hai khul ke bolo!”

    to the present and future rulers of pakistan i say:
    “sach sunnay ki salahiat rakho bhai!!”

  123. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    June 5th, 2007 4:49 pm

    [quote post="727"] Smiles only when his boss does[/quote]

    now this is very closed observation *grin*. I think most of them do same but I guess the closed match is Durrani. In ISB jalsa, he even clapped when Mush clapped.

  124. Kruman says:
    June 5th, 2007 6:56 pm

    [quote comment="52022"]Can you name the person who:

    1. Holds a very important position in the Q government: Q league has no importance, a bunch of political whores.

    2. Often dresses like a parish priest: Not sure

    3. Talks like a robot: Durrani, Tariq Aziz

    4. Says nothing substantial: Durrani, Tariq Aziz

    5. Smiles only when his boss does: Not sure how intimate is the personal relationship between Musharraf and his bitches i.e. Durrani and Tariq Aziz.

    Do you need more hints?[/quote]

  125. Nasir says:
    June 5th, 2007 7:07 pm

    Shortcut Aziz?

  126. Kruman says:
    June 5th, 2007 7:07 pm

    [quote comment="51947"]I think Geo is the most obedient of mainstream news channels, the owners Rahman brothers have always tried to avoid conflict with army and MQM, yet they got banned, now for around two days. If Mush cant tolerate it, the only channel remains is PTV that fulfills government criteria.[/quote]

    That is true of the Geo management. They have always been like that starting with Jang. However, they have some of the top journalistic talent in the country in Kamran Khan, Shahid Masood and Hamid Mir. People with such talent will not stick around if they are totally gagged.

    Shahid Masood especially has turned into a complete maverick. He stripped Musharraf naked in the 2 meray mutabiq episodes over the weekend. Nobody has shown this level of audacity on Geo TV. I am afraid he may be let go under govt pressure.

    The only news organizations in Pakistan that can hire and retain a brave soul like Shahid Masood are Aaj TV and Nawaiwaqt/Nation, the latter is planning to launch Waqt TV sometime soon.

  127. MQ says:
    June 5th, 2007 7:10 pm

    My question was about one person only. One more hint:

    Reportedly, he considers himself quite a ladies’ man.

  128. Nasir says:
    June 5th, 2007 9:00 pm

    Again, Shortcut Aziz?

  129. Adnan Ahmad says:
    June 5th, 2007 10:10 pm

    Shortcut of course. It was funny to hear how Rice burst his bubble.

  130. MQ says:
    June 5th, 2007 10:20 pm

    Nasir, you got it right and so did you Adnan Ahmad. It is Shortcut. Another thing you would notice about him is he never looks you in the eyes when speaking.

  131. Adnan Ahmad says:
    June 5th, 2007 11:18 pm

    GEO visibly appears castrated. (Sorry folks but there isn’t a better a word). On capital talk salman shah, the finance minister and one of the silent asses of the current setup, showed up to discuss economics and finance. Hmmm.. It’s amazing how people can take credit for 3 billion dollars of American aid (cash to be specific) and attribute it to growth and sound economic policies.

    By the way he is Asif Nawaz’ son in law and very much a part of Military Incorporated.

  132. Aqil Sajjad says:
    June 5th, 2007 11:33 pm

    Mushy’s camp certainly includes a diverse assortment of comic reliefs such as Muhammad Ali Ghalat Biani, Buckwasi Zafar, terrorist Altaf Hussain, Sheikh Rasheed, Ch Shujat, Shortcut Aziz, and arguably the loyal opposition leader Fazl-ur-Rehman too. Another one gearing up to join this distinguished company is of course BB, whose apologists over the years have been calling for her return just like a bunch of babies crying for their mommy to come and change their nappies.

  133. Aqil Sajjad says:
    June 5th, 2007 11:39 pm

    Salman Shah was getting a good thrashing in that capital talk program, but he riggled out by not letting the others speak and going into a long and meaningless ramble. He is another one of those distinguished clowns in the Mush camp who talk a lot of nonsense.

  134. Kruman says:
    June 6th, 2007 1:03 am

    [quote comment="52112"]GEO visibly appears castrated. (Sorry folks but there isn’t a better a word). On capital talk salman shah, the finance minister and one of the silent asses of the current setup, showed up to discuss economics and finance. Hmmm.. It’s amazing how people can take credit for 3 billion dollars of American aid (cash to be specific) and attribute it to growth and sound economic policies.

    By the way he is Asif Nawaz’ son in law and very much a part of Military Incorporated.[/quote]
    [quote comment="52068"]My question was about one person only. One more hint:

    Reportedly, he considers himself quite a ladies’ man.[/quote]
    Shaukat Aziz. I must be the last person to figure this out:)

  135. Kruman says:
    June 6th, 2007 1:04 am

    [quote comment="52112"]GEO visibly appears castrated. (Sorry folks but there isn’t a better a word). On capital talk salman shah, the finance minister and one of the silent asses of the current setup, showed up to discuss economics and finance. Hmmm.. It’s amazing how people can take credit for 3 billion dollars of American aid (cash to be specific) and attribute it to growth and sound economic policies.

    By the way he is Asif Nawaz’ son in law and very much a part of Military Incorporated.[/quote]
    [quote comment="52068"]My question was about one person only. One more hint:

    Reportedly, he considers himself quite a ladies’ man.[/quote]
    Shaukat Aziz. I must be the last person to figure this out:)

    He is also one of Musharraf’s bitches, though not the favorite one.

  136. Kruman says:
    June 6th, 2007 1:29 am

    Anyone watched Kamran Khan today? He had Gen (retd) Tanvir Naqvi on the program. Kamran Khan is definitely not in the same league as Talat Hussain and Shahid Masood. He let the general get away with a lot of lame statements, Talat or Shahid would’ve whipped Mr Naqvi.

    Statements made by general Naqvi:
    - “Lawyers movement is trying to coerce judiciary into giving a favorable decision.” Kamaran should’ve asked, “How about the president in uniform with a half million strong army? And what message did the statement from the crore commanders send?”
    - “Parliamentary system has failed, Pakistan needs a presidential system.”

    Kamran should ‘ve asked if army interference has played a role in this failure.

    The expressed desire for a presidential system shows the delusional state Musharraf and his cronies are living in.

  137. Asad Khan says:
    June 6th, 2007 1:34 am

    Kruman, It appears that we won’t be seeing Kabir Ali Wasti again. Especially after that interview, Ch Sujaat, the perennial peacemaker, won’t be traveling to his house to bring him round to make peace with the govt. However he has done his job, and the damage is done.

  138. Asad Khan says:
    June 6th, 2007 1:41 am

    Kruman, Regarding General Naqvi, it seems that Kamraan Khan is trying to mend the fences with the govt. Yesterday, he had General Zarrar, and today him. That is 2 generals in 2 days; can he keep the pace? He is just being tactful, trying to bring the channel back. He did the same thing last time when they banned his program. After pleading on tv for a few days, the first thing he did when he came back on, was to bring Musharraf on. That was an equally lame interview; watching it I was wondering why he wasn’t following up on his questions.

  139. Kruman says:
    June 6th, 2007 1:46 am

    Fakhruddin G Ibrahim Sahib on Kamran Khan
    =======================================

    Very sensible and mature talk by the eminent jurist, Fakhruddin G Ibrahim sahib:
    - Our federation can’t survive with a presidential form of government. Ayub’s experiment with this form led to the creation of Bangladesh.
    - revert back to 1973 consitution as it was on Oct 11, 1999.
    - We must distinguish between army and army rule. No one is against the army, people are against army rule.

    We need a sensible, mature person like him as the president, whose role according to the constitution should be non-political.

  140. Asad Khan says:
    June 6th, 2007 1:47 am

    [quote post="727"]“Parliamentary system has failed, Pakistan needs a presidential system.â€

  141. Kruman says:
    June 6th, 2007 1:54 am

    [quote comment="52138"]Kruman, Regarding General Naqvi, it seems that Kamraan Khan is trying to mend the fences with the govt. Yesterday, he had General Zarrar, and today him. That is 2 generals in 2 days; can he keep the pace? He is just being tactful, trying to bring the channel back. He did the same thing last time when they banned his program. After pleading on tv for a few days, the first thing he did when he came back on, was to bring Musharraf on. That was an equally lame interview; watching it I was wondering why he wasn’t following up on his questions.[/quote]

    Asad, I agree. I was too harsh on Kamran Khan.

    Also, he is treating this like a long run rather than a 100 meter sprint, which is a smart thing to do.

    Actually this is how Kamran Khan conducted todays program, first he brought on Naqvi and let him give his side. Then he brought on Fakhruddin G Ibrahim sahib whose wisdom dispelled the disinformation spread by Naqvi. Finally Kamran summarized the views of the two guests, and Naqvi looked like the one with no substance. The end by Kamran was masterful.

  142. Kruman says:
    June 6th, 2007 3:40 am

    “Pemra ordinance is useless,” Dr Sher Afgan Niazi.
    http://daily.urdupoint.com/todayNewsLive.php?news_id=32139&featured=1&cat_id=2

    On a seprate thread, today’s Kamran Khan program:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKOavTgsHnQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Fs8qs7w7M

  143. Kruman says:
    June 6th, 2007 4:17 am

    [quote comment="51552"]Can someone also post General Aslam Beg’s interview on the same show. I missed that part, but from what I am reading about it, it seemed that he was equally critical.[/quote]

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=FhL9ck9nBwo

    Calls Shujaat Hussain a mad man, says one should stay as far away from him as possible.

    Also says that (Musharraf’s) seeking a vote of confidence from core commanders is a sign of weakness.

  144. Nasir says:
    June 6th, 2007 5:41 am

    [quote comment="52100"]Nasir, you got it right and so did you Adnan Ahmad. It is Shortcut. Another thing you would notice about him is he never looks you in the eyes when speaking.[/quote]

    except if you are condi…then he looks really hard…:)

  145. omar r. quraishi says:
    June 6th, 2007 6:58 am

    Editorial, The News, June 6, 2007

    Arbitrary & unjust

    It seems that the government is readying itself for a war on the media, particularly the electronic one, in the country. This is most unfortunate and troubling given that it already has one problematic front — the ongoing judicial crisis with the legal community up in arms against it — to deal with. What else can one make of the several amendments announced by the government on Tuesday in the laws regulating the electronic media? Coming in the midst of the judicial crisis and increasing pressure being applied by the government on the print and electronic media on coverage of the crisis and its related rallies and protests, the changes have been made via a presidential ordinance, just a few days before the National Assembly was to meet in session. In this context, it would be fair to say that the sole aim of the changes is to bring the media in general, and the electronic one in particular, to a point of submission.

    The changes themselves go against the very spirit of natural justice which demands that before the state or one of its agencies takes any punitive action against a non-state entity for violation of the law, the latter be given adequate warning about such action. Furthermore, the right to lodge an appeal against and question any such action is an intrinsic part of the due process of law. Also, another important element of natural justice, contained in the maxim ‘audi alteram partem’ — that the other side’s view must also be heard — has been violated by the changes. How else does the government justify increasing the penalty ten-fold, authorising the state electronic media regulator, PEMRA, to confiscate equipment, seal the premises of TV channels or cancel a channel’s licence without referring the matter first to a council of complaints (as envisaged under legislation that Tuesday’s ordinance amended)?

    Also, the government’s intention that pressure on the media is going to be further tightened is shown by bringing under PEMRA’s purview even video images relayed on mobile phones and the Internet. This shows panic on the part of the government in that it now wants to even control what people see on their mobile phones and the Internet. It is also an indication of how desperate it is to stamp out coverage of the rallies and protests related to the judicial crisis. In addition to this, PEMRA has been given, quite arbitrarily, sweeping authority to make rules and regulations from time to time to enforce the ordinance. This new proviso can always be used by this or any other government to further increase pressure on the electronic media.

    Clearly, the signs — especially with this new ordinance — are ominous. There should be no doubt about the fact that the effects of this widening battle/confrontation with the media are going to be disastrous — for the country, for civil society and for the government as well. For starters, the international image of the government, which some have cultivated thanks to Pakistan’s participation in the US-led war against terrorism, is sure to take a battering (the US State Department has already commented on it, saying that the media should be able to carry out its job of reporting the judicial crisis). Further to that, and perhaps more importantly, whatever support that the government had among domestic public opinion is sure to diminish. That the changes were made by an ordinance, when there is an elected parliament, and when many PEMRA provisions were enacted as recent as February of this year, is a deathly blow to whatever democracy there is in Pakistan at this point in time.

    Surely, the way forward out of the crisis is not to open another, potentially dangerous, front with the media. Those at the helm of affairs need to understand that (a) the crisis unfolding before it has not been initiated or manipulated by the media as it seems to sadly believe, that (b) curbs of the electronic and print media, in this day and age; and with public opinion generally in synch with the view that the crisis is of the government’s own making (and worsening by every passing day because its guiding principle seems to be the proverb ‘Cut your nose to spite your face’), are only going to exacerbate the situation and further lower the credibility of the government in the eyes of most Pakistanis as well as overseas observers; that (c) simply imposing stringent censorship and banning TV channels will not make the crisis disappear, for the simple reason that the media did not create it and (d) that the only way to defuse the situation is for the prime mover — i.e., the government — to take appropriate steps such as withdrawing the reference against the chief justice, reversing the media curbs and the president choosing either the post of army chief or president.

  146. June 6th, 2007 2:24 pm

    Today talat performed excellent….

  147. Sadai_Qalandar says:
    June 6th, 2007 3:06 pm

    Can anyone post Talat’s program.

  148. June 6th, 2007 3:29 pm

    In response to reader demand, we will be posting intersting news media from Pakistan atthe top of the 3rd (right hand) column. The discussion can continue on relevant existing posts. In order to avoid overlaoding the page, we will continue rotating and changing these videos.

  149. Kruman says:
    June 6th, 2007 4:13 pm

    Thanks admin. Returning back to the subject, the media is digging its heels for a fight. They’ve tken a cue from the lawyers and I don’t see them succumbing to pressures. The govt using the same playbook, just like they dressed people as lawyers to derail lawyers’ movement, they are now dressing up goons as journalists. This led to the scuffle in NA yesterday.

    First the bar and the bench stood up against General Musharraf’s govt, now the media has accepted the challenge too. I think teachers are next and one by one other segments of the society will join the movement to reclaim Pakistan from the jaws of blood-thirsty sharks guised in uniform.

  150. Aqil Sajjad says:
    June 6th, 2007 8:29 pm

    Latest from the news

    Dr Ayesha Siddiqa leaves Pakistan
    (The news, June 7, 2007)
    By Rauf Klasra

    LONDON: Renowned scholar Dr Ayesha Siddiqa secretly reached London on Wednesday after she “received a message that a charge sheet is being prepared to put
    her on trialâ€

  151. Adnan Ahmad says:
    June 6th, 2007 9:12 pm

    just watched talat husain’s interview with sheikh rahseed. one heck of an anchor! definitely a cut above the rest.

  152. Mutazalzaluzzaman Tarar says:
    June 6th, 2007 11:39 pm

    [quote comment="52341"]just watched talat husain’s interview with sheikh rahseed. one heck of an anchor! definitely a cut above the rest.[/quote]

    Talat Hussain is an amazing anchor. If TV journalism had a rockstar, it would be Talat. He is so sharp and quick-witted. Speaks so eloquently at all times.

  153. KAWA1 says:
    June 6th, 2007 11:52 pm

    A full General is worth Rs 500 million+
    First, here are some details about Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa-Agha.

    Her expertise: South Asia, military expenditure, arms control, arms procurement.

    Her Brief Bio:
    She did her doctorate from King’s College, London in 1996 and has worked on issues varying from military expenditure, defence decision-making, nuclear deterrence, arms procurement, arms production to civil-military relations in South Asia. She is also a Ford Fellow and more recently Pakistan Scholar at t he Woodrow Wilson International Centre for Scholars.
    She began her professional career with the Pakistan navy as the Director of Naval Research, making her the first civilian and woman to work at that position in Pakistan’s defence establishment. She writes for various international journals such as: Journal of Asian Affairs, Journal of the European Institute of Asian Studies, Jane’s Defence Weekly and the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists. Her major publication to date is the book Pakistan’s Arms Procurement and Military Buildup, 1979-99: In Search of a Policy (Palgrave Press, 2001).

    The reason for the above blurb on Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa-Agha will soon become apparent; I simply wished to establish her credentials and highlight the fact that she is no intellectual light weight in her specialized field of knowledge.
    Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa is a scholar of Pakistan’s military and security affairs and a regular contributor to several Pakistani and internationally renowned opinion journals. Currently she is a fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington, DC where she is busy writing her latest book “Military Inc, The Politics of Military’s Economy in Pakistan”. In it, she analyzes Pakistan military’s vast commercial interests and its economic predation since 1953.

    Ayesha Siddiqa also writes on Pakistan’s military affairs for Jane’s Information Group. She was asked to work as the Director of Naval Research with the Navy making her the first civilian and woman to work at that position in the Pakistan defense establishment. She has a doctorate in War Studies from King’s College, London in 1996.

    despardes.com’s Editor-in-Chief Irshad Salim conducted an online interview with her on the subject of her upcoming book, Pakistan affairs and post 9/11 scenario.
    Question: So what is this book about?
    Dr. Siddiqa: This book is about military business operations with a case study of Pakistan.
    Question: So what prompted you to write this book?
    Dr. Siddiqa: I was a civil servant. During the course of my work I had to deal with numbers of military spending and doing that one slowly realized that a lot was hidden. It is the search for numbers that took me in this direction. The other thing is that it is essential to understand the dynamics of the institution that virtually controls Pakistan’s past, present and future.
    Question: Ok, so who did you work for as a civil servant?
    Dr. Siddiqa: I joined the civil service in 1988 and left in 2001. Served in military accounts, defence audit and later the navy.
    Question: Going back to the Pakistan army’s business, what are your findings?
    Dr. Siddiqa: Several. First, the military has become predatory engaging in political and economic predation. Second, political predation is not complete without economic predation. Third, military has mutated into a separate class that shares interests with other members of the ruling elite. Finally, because the military protects its vested interests, it leads to alienation of the masses.
    Question: When did all this start?
    Dr. Siddiqa: It dates back to the early 1950s. The business ventures were started with the establishing of the first foundation called the Fauji Foundation in 1953. This was established with the war veteran’s rehabilitation fund of Rs. 18 million.
    Question: Why do you consider forming Fauji Foundation a predatory step by the army?
    Dr. Siddiqa: Listen you have to understand the concept. A politically strong entity that engages in political predation needs to feel economically or financially autonomous. This completes the picture of predation. The generals thought that they wanted to establish independent means of providing for their welfare and not depending on the civilians like it happened in India. The financial autonomy gradually created the logic for greater interest in political control .
    Question: Give me one or two instances when the 1953 move swirled into predation.
    Dr. Siddiqa: It started right then with Ayub Khan and his cabal getting agricultural land and establishing independent means for themselves.Look at Ayub Khan. He not only got several squares of agricultural land in Sindh, he also established his sons into business. Look at the entire lot of generals at the moment. A Major General has a legal worth of about Rs. 300 million [Rs. 30 crores]. These are conservative estimates.
    Question: Going back to Pakistan army’s economic superpower…What percentage of the GDP and GNP is it?
    Dr. Siddiqa: This is difficult to calculate but their own estimates are about 4 % of GDP. I would say that their share in private sector assets is about 7-10 percent of private sector assets . This is a large number for any single group.
    Question: Can you translate that into crores?
    Dr. Siddiqa: 7-10 percent of private sector assets cannot be translated but I can give you another figure: They are worth about Rs. 200 billion. It is just the business. If you put in real estate then we are talking about a Rs 1 trillion plus economy.
    Question: You mean Pakistan army’s side economy?
    Dr. Siddiqa: Yes. This includes real estate, businesses done by subsidiaries, organizations and individuals. You have to understand that this economy is predatory by nature because it does not accept any form of civilian control over it. It is independent in terms of planning, appropriation of funds, etc .
    Question: If Pakistan army’s assets total Rs 1 trillion can they fund Pakistan’s annual budget wholly or partially if they have to?
    Dr. Siddiqa: This would, converting these resources into liquid assets and then it would be possible to pay. A lot of these resources are state resources that could provide for military expenditure and more. It is difficult to say that this money would fund the entire budget. Of course, it can but over what period? These assets were acquired over time and their value should be added to the annual defence budget.
    Question: What was the defence budget for the year 2001?
    Dr. Siddiqa: 131 billion. If you add these numbers the budget would escalate to over Rs. 400 billion
    Question: When you left in 2001 how many generals, etc were there who form the command structure of Pakistan forces?
    Dr. Siddiqa: Brigadier and up would be a few hundred.
    Question: So if we assume 100 then 100 times 300 million = 30 billion is the legal worth of army’s command structure correct?
    Dr. Siddiqa: it is more but don’t get into these fancy numbers… Plus the higher you go the more pricy you become. A full general is worth Rs 500 million [Rs. 50 crores] plus (Say £5 Million or US$9.8Million)
    Question: How much land does the forces own in each province?
    Dr. Siddiqa: Difficult to bifurcate but to give you a taste – they own about 7-9 million acres in Punjab alone
    Question: What percentage is it of whole of Punjab?
    Dr. Siddiqa: I am still trying to figure this out. It is not an issue of what percentage is this of Punjab but that a major portion of state land is appropriated by one group
    Question: What about Sindh?
    Dr. Siddiqa: My sense is that it is less in Sindh
    Question: Why is that?
    Dr. Siddiqa: Most of the land is around the 2 barrages constructed after independence. Because they didn’t make new barrages.
    Question: What is their modus operandi in getting these lands allotment
    Dr. Siddiqa: 10 % of land, according to the 1912 Colonization of Land Act, is allotted to the military
    Question: 10% everywhere?
    Dr. Siddiqa: Yes it would be everywhere land is found. Colonization of land refers to each land reclaimed due to creation of water channels and other irrigation projects. However, they tend to get more in Punjab
    Question: Does India have this act too?
    Dr. Siddiqa: No. They got rid of such acts when they did land reforms. Remember India is a state moving towards capitalism. A capitalist state would not create means for institutionalizing feudalism
    Question: Are you saying Pakistan army has institutionalized feudalism?
    Dr. Siddiqa: I am saying that it is a feudal institution as well
    Question: So in that case their interests converge with feudal system correct?
    Dr. Siddiqa: Yes
    Question: Do you think they resisted land reform along with the feudal?
    Dr. Siddiqa: I wouldn’t say that they resisted but they had sufficient stakes not to pursue a policy that had a negative impact on their benefits. For example, who buys the land the Faujis sell? The local feudal or the new rural capitalist class that is equally feudal in nature. Why should the officers then try to destroy the class that bails them out financially. After 1999, generals have started to keep their lands
    Question: What happened after 1999
    Dr. Siddiqa: Since the value of land has gone up, especially after 9/11, generals now keep lands and have turned into absentee land lords
    Question: Why did the value of land in Pakistan go up after 9/11
    Dr. Siddiqa: Because of the money that started to flow in from Pakistani expatriates plus other Muslim countries
    Question: What is their modus operandi in getting these lands allotted to generals individually and to their housing societies collectively?
    Dr. Siddiqa: The provincial governments allot the land to the Ministry of Defence who then gives the land to the three services for further dispersal. The land is also given to the Jawans but the quantity is lesser than what is given to the senior officers. Plus, the generals get greater facilities in making the land cultivable.
    Question: All this is based on 1912 colonization of land act that India got rid of and Pakistan still has ?
    Dr. Siddiqa: Yes, but they have done alterations as well. For instance, the act does not say that land meant for operational purpose be appropriated for personal use. It is against the law
    Question: Are you saying that land meant for operational purposes are or have been appropriated to the generals for personal use or to the housing societies?
    Dr. Siddiqa: Of course. All land in the cities is military land turned into housing colonies
    Question: What is the conclusion of your book?
    Dr. Siddiqa : Simple: The political leadership in Pakistan has to negotiate the military’s gradual withdrawal from the economy if they want democratic institutions to grow
    Question: At what value does the army buy land?
    Dr. Siddiqa: Between Rs. 30-60 per acre .( or 30-60 pence per acre) In some cases they pay more. This refers to the private housing schemes
    Question: You mean in Defence Society in Karachi, the army gets land from the provincial govt for 30 to 60 rupees an acre only?
    Dr. Siddiqa: There are 2 methods for getting land. All the military land converted for personal use is given at the ridiculous price I quoted. Then there are other schemes where they pay a little more. For instance, the Cantonment Board distributed plots of 500 yards each by appropriating part of the parking lot of the Karachi stadium. Each plot was for about Rs 600,000 (say £6000 against a market value of £100,000 – £150,000)
    Question: What was the fair market value of each plot at that time?
    Dr. Siddiqa: One and a half crore
    Question: Who got these plots?
    Dr. Siddiqa: Generals. The bulk goes to generals. This was done by General Tauqeer Zia. As Chairman Cricket Control Board he authorized himself to return this land that once belonged to the Cantonment Board for further distribution- (In short the real robbers and thieves are the GENERALS and their cabal)
    Question: Any more instances of such land grabbing?
    Dr. Siddiqa: The entire Lahore Cantonment was turned into housing schemes. In fact, except for Defence phase I & II (Lahore), the rest of the land does not even belong to the military
    Question: How many acres is Lahore Cantonment, if you know?
    Dr. Siddiqa: About 8000 to 10,000.
    Question: What is its fair market worth now
    Dr. Siddiqa: Runs into billions. It should be around Rs. 700 billion
    Question: What was the “grabbing price ”
    Dr. Siddiqa: As I said, Rs. 30-60. This is the rate that officers pay
    ========================
    Personal message: It is about time to do the following;
    · Start a movement to oust the ARMY from political power
    · Create a method to elect an honest leadership both in PPP, Muslim League, MQM, and other parties.
    · Have proper elections
    · Control the asset distribution by the ARMY Mafia. A proper regulated system should be devised.
    · Control the Assets of the Fauji Foundation and open the books to proper audit
    · Perks as land, plot gifts should be controlled or perhaps banned.
    · Make laws of severe punishment for the Generals to stop them from taking political power and that their prime duty should be Defense ALONE
    · Investigations of lootings by the Army Generals especially the Core Commanders (including the millionaire Core Commander Lahore who has benefited most recently)

  154. Roshan says:
    June 6th, 2007 11:57 pm

    Talat is undoubtedly outstanding anchor in Pakistan electronic media and was in his best form during this interview. Though I am not Sh Rasheed’s fan, but he also performed really well.

  155. Aqil Sajjad says:
    June 7th, 2007 12:58 am

    KAWA1:
    Good points in your “personal message” at the end of that last post. Any ideas on what can be done to proceed on any of these?
    How about deciding not to buy products and services of Fauji run businesses for instance?

  156. beenum says:
    June 7th, 2007 9:03 am

    i only want to say today people saw hope and finally pakistani army saw tht peopl might see THIER real faces as long as the media was criticising the muslim league kauf no one had issues not even the dictator president musharaf but the day our army who has never given us one single war for which we cud be proud of is being pointed out the corrupt generals and every single one of tese parasite were afraid and today the chek on media is no more then the result of that fear…ordinance could have been passed days ago the president rather the chief of army staff had the power to pass an ordinance annuling the hudood ordinance years ago instead of allowing the media to show such talk shows and discussion wich people or a complete pakistani family can not watch create a hype of all tht why not simply use his power but tht was then wen he was not being shown his true face and this is now wen he knows if media still has power his end is not far infact the end of this army int that far coz its about time the people of pakistan might wake up

  157. Shah says:
    June 7th, 2007 11:50 am

    so what…..
    spending too much time in front of the tube is not good anyway!!!!!

  158. Sohail says:
    June 7th, 2007 5:10 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/23l4kx

    4. Imran Khan in Aaghaz (ARYONE World) part 3,4 a must see…was even before 3/9.

  159. Iqbal Kazmi Kidnapped from Karachi says:
    June 7th, 2007 6:28 pm

    An unfortunate development related to 12th May\’s killings by MQM. Iqbal Kazmi (a lawyer from Karachi) who filed petition against Sindh Govt and MQM in SHC, holding them responsible for 12th May killings, is missing since Tuesday. His family has registered FIR in local police station. Its not difficult to figure out who must have kidnapped him (we are worried that even he is alive). Looks like Mr Arbab Ghulam and Altaf Bai has done it again.

    Please pray for him and his family and his safe return. Ameen

  160. KAWA1 says:
    June 8th, 2007 12:21 am

    Iqbal Kazmi Kidnapped from Karachi

    It is heart wrenching to read this news. How can this be happening so openly without any fear of consequences by those who participate in such activities??
    I just fail to understand the direction that Musharraf is taking this country to..? I have condemned Military rule all my life because it brought nothing but chaos in Pakistan, from the dismemberment of Pakistan to hanging of Bhutto, to the killing of Sindhi’s during the MRD movement (scars of which still exists), killing of Bughti, participation in Afghan war during Zia’s time, creation of taliban, post 9/11 and the list can go an and on…
    The misery that Musharraf has brought to the nation, especially after the killing in Karachi on May 11th has become the last straw.
    My prediction is that this man will create a bigger massacre in Pakistan before he departs because he is truly without any scruples and will be willing to sacrifice millions before giving up the Presidency! Unfortunately!

    His psyche is exactly the same as Altaf Hussain. I have no doubt at all that both are in absolute cahoots. One uses his sector commanders for killing and other dirty works, the other uses his military and dubious character Generals and heads of his Intelligence Agencies to exploit situations (I would not doubt if that includes murders as well by using SHO’s or other means).

    Tale piece; Musharraf’s son Bilal has been studying in Stanford University, California for last three years. Tuition expense per annum is over $100,000 (please add additional living expenses of over $70,000 per annum). He has no job but continues to survive??

    In Musharraf’s defense, he is not the only General to extend such lavish life style to his son. Other General’s Chisti or Akhtar Abdul Rehman or Zia Ul Haq, all their son’s live the life style of multi millionaires from owning Pepsi franchises in Lahore to having millions and millions to flout.

  161. Kruman says:
    June 8th, 2007 12:55 am

    The errors and loopholes in the counter affidavits filed by Musharraf’s cronies are exposed by Aitzaz Ahsan in this clip from capital talk. The incredulous look on Hamid Mir’s face is quite funny.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSVZyCXhp0Y

  162. KAWA1 says:
    June 8th, 2007 1:08 am

    Aqil Sajjad

    Correction. I got the article in my e mail as a result of mass mailing. The personal message might very well have been from Dr Siddiqa. I enjoyed reading it and wanted to share the contents.

    Don’t know how one can boycott their products; Sohna Urea (Kissan cannot do without it), Defence Societies, Askari Villas, NLC etc…

    In an interview with Kamran Khan, Dr Siddiqa talked about China’s case study where in one stroke the Chinese Govt passed a law and the state took over all the holdings of military industrial empire. The Chinese decided that military should only do what it is hired to do.
    Very strange for a Communist country!

    A strong parliament in Pakistan can eventually do this but they themselves have to be above board… (people who live in glass houses cannot afford to throw stones on others….). I think we should take one step at a time; support media freedom, support freedom of judiciary. These two in time will guarantee accountability and building pressure on such institutions.

  163. KAWA1 says:
    June 8th, 2007 1:24 am

    Kamran. The amazing thing is that Geo got it’s TV license because of it’s support for MQM in Jang News.
    DAWN on the other hand has always been critical of MQM and never has given much coverage to the self proclaimed King of kings “Altaf Hussain” and hence never got the approval from Musharraf Bhai.

    Today Geo has become the front line channel for a great cause!

    Is there a lesson here for our rulers? Maybe;

    “What is true for Gujrati’s or Gujrat or Chaudry’s is not true for everyone”

  164. Saad says:
    June 8th, 2007 7:27 am

    Islamabad – A Pakistani lawyer who vanished this week after filing a court case against government officials over the recent violence in Karachi claimed Friday that unknown kidnappers tortured him in retribution and dumped him on the street.

    Iqbal Kazmi had held the chief minister of the southern Sindh province, Arbab Rahim, and other high officials responsible for the May 12 violence between government supporters and opposition activists that claimed 41 lives.

    ‘Unknown gunmen abducted me at gunpoint on June 6 as I was on my way home,’ he told journalists after local police found him lying in bushes near a railway station in the southern port city.

    Kazmi claimed his abductors wanted to punish him for his criticism of the authorities and also threatened to murder his family if he did not leave the city within five days.

    ‘They beat me up several times and burned me with cigarettes on my back, chest and genitals, asking how I could dare to challenge the government,’ he said.

    The kidnappers also wanted to know whether Kazmi was linked with opposition leader Imran Khan, a prominent critic of the national and provincial government.

    Khan last month came into further conflict with the pro-Musharraf Mutahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) that rules Karachi when he accused the group of playing a leading role in the violence.

    Clashes erupted as Pakistan’s suspended chief justice Iftikhar Chaudhry arrived in the city to address lawyers. More than 150 people were also injured, many of them suffering gunshot wounds.

    The former cricket star and head of Tehrik-i-Insaf, or Movement for Justice Party, is currently consulting legal experts in London before filing a terrorism case against Altaf Hussain, the head of the MQM.

    Hussain is a British citizen and runs the party from its head office in the capital.

    M&C

  165. KAWA1 says:
    June 8th, 2007 4:03 pm

    INTERESTING ARTICLE IN DAWN BY AYAZ AMIR ( In case anyone missed it…)

    Summer of discontent, season of hope

    By Ayaz Amir

    PITY the Q League, the latest target of Gen Pervez Musharraf’s wrath. When did it ever pretend to be a real political party? Now Musharraf wants it to behave like one. It’s like expecting a plant in a hothouse to grow overnight into a mighty oak.

    “I bluntly say,â€

  166. Budget/Topi Drama says:
    June 9th, 2007 2:09 pm

    Looks like ban on live coverage has been lifted. Almost every channel broadcasted budget speech live today by a robot like minister. I wonder what happens in next address of CJ.

  167. Kruman says:
    June 10th, 2007 12:15 am

    Actually I though the ban was only on live addresses by CJP and his lawyers.

    Today’s Merey Mutabiq was on the economy. Brilliant opening spell by Shahid Masood. Here are the highlights.
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=23Ioo9Pt27g

    Pervez Musharraf – run out. Shaukat Aziz refused to repond to a call for a quick CHEEKY single.
    Shaukat Aziz – trapped lbw by Shahid Masood’s reverse swing.
    Omar Ayub – clean bowled by in inswinging worker.

  168. KAWA1 says:
    June 10th, 2007 12:53 am

    Thanks Kamran.

    Just brilliant! This is such a complicated subject but the guest invited really did a thorough good job in exposing the Musharraf gang..

    P.S. Now the most profitable venture “Pakistan State Oil” is up for sale and guess who is trying to grab it? Pakistan Army, under the guise of privatization!

  169. Kruman says:
    June 10th, 2007 1:34 am

    Kawa1, a day of reckoning for the dictators, thugs and usurpers is fast approaching. They are in a state of denial and act as if everything is normal. It is just that the reality has not sunk in yet.

    Mr Tanveer Ahmad Khan (former foreign secretary) put it best when he said, “Pakistan has simply outgrown the era of military and civilian dictatorships.”

    With an assertive and a bolder judiciary, things will soon take a turn for the better. The dream of the power-hungry corrupt generals to subjugate the entire nation under their boots will turn out to be a wet dream.

    Mr Ali Ahmad Kurd speaks for the entire Pakistani nation on this subject:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=gfGzh75M3zM

  170. Sohail says:
    June 10th, 2007 7:16 am

    Krumancould u please add the rest of Shahid Masood’s above episode, where the expert talks about the huge ever bank loan right offs during this regime.

    Thanks

  171. bhumika says:
    June 10th, 2007 12:41 pm

    attack on freedom of press is a sad event wherever it happens.in case of pakistan it is even more troubling because the country is going through political turmoil and doesnot have an elected person as a president..

    i read this news today,which says “Pakistan suspends curbs on new media”
    i hope this signals change in admin’s policy..u cannot suppress people for ever..

  172. KAWA1 says:
    June 10th, 2007 1:08 pm

    Kruman, I fully concur!

    Please add the entire episode of Dr Masood on budget as requested by Sohail. I went back and saw the complete recorded version. I’ve never heard so much clarity on this subject and how Mr.Siddiqui tore every claim of success that these goons portray for last 7 years.

  173. June 10th, 2007 5:33 pm

    Irrespective of your political persuation, please refrain for using ATP to propagate obvious propaganda material.

    For ATP’s take on spreading misinformation, click here. It does not matter what side is doing so, misinformation is to be discouraged.

  174. Kruman says:
    June 12th, 2007 12:59 pm

    Kabir Ali Wasti Resurfaces
    ==========================

    Daily express has an interview with him reported on the front page at express.com.pk in today paper, June 12th.

    He is quoted as saying , “We’ll sink him (Musharraf) who tried to sink the boat of Q league.”

  175. Kruman says:
    June 12th, 2007 1:39 pm

    Upon public demand I am uploading the program (Merey Mutabiq with Dr Shahid Hassan Siddiqui) in it’s entirety. It will be done today. Once it is uploaded I’ll send it to ATP admins and request them to start a new blog. It could be titled something like “Critical Analysis of Economic Policies of Musharraf Regime,” or something similar.

    Dr Shahid Hassan Siddiqui is a respected economist and his critique can’t be brushed aside flippantly. It should be countered with solid counter arguments and facts.

  176. Kruman says:
    June 13th, 2007 5:19 pm

    Here is the entire Merey Mutabiq on Pak economy since 1999 with Dr Shahid Hassan Siddiqui. The program aired on June 9, 2007. Several people on this blog asked for it.

    Now , these are not neccessarily my personal views.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJyx5KboG5A
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_kgNgFfn6Q
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH441r9NE2I
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPvRsUG1iZM

  177. Salman Mustafa says:
    June 18th, 2007 8:15 am

    Looks like Pakistani media channels have done some deal with govt. CJ\’s trip to Faisalabad hardly got a coverage. All the news papers are reporting huge crowds turned out to welcome CJ but nothing much has been shown on tv. What happened to those claims of free media and couping with govt pressure at any cost?

  178. KAWA1 says:
    June 20th, 2007 11:45 am

    Salman Mustafa. The best way to pressure TV channels is to go to their web sites and forward them an e mail with your reservations.

    Works better than just pointing it out on this forum..

    I have always felt that Geo played the most in Musharraf’s and MQM hand all these past 7 years. Jang Group got the award of TV channel because of support of MQM. This was awarded to Jang because it virtually played as an extension of MQM media wing for 7 years, 365 days a year… There was no news on Geo without a sermon from the ugly Peer Altaf Bhai.

    In contrast DAWN Group was blocked from getting a TV channel because of it’s negative coverage of Altaf and hence got the wrath from Mush..

    The tables turned for Geo when their station was invaded by security forces and Mr.Khalil-Ur-Rehman flexed his muscles to show Mush who really has the power!!Jang Group has done this when they went head-on with Nawaz Shareef Govt, forcing Nawaz to back away and apologize to Jang.. Pretty old game for Jang owners (geo), atleast.

    Deal; might be right, they will gradually fade away from the CJ issue not making it too obvious.

  179. Sohail says:
    June 20th, 2007 12:32 pm
  180. Kruman says:
    June 20th, 2007 3:36 pm

    Good point Kawa1.

    Please write to the following people and urge them to convince their management to start airing CJP’s addresses to the bar councils live.

    drshahid@geo.tv
    aaj@geo.tv
    capitaltalk@geo.tv

    The address for Aj TV is not working, emails bounce back. I wrote to them at aajcomments@aaj.tv

  181. KAWA1 says:
    June 22nd, 2007 1:44 pm

    Thanks Kruman. another good link is;

    http://www.geo.tv/geop/tell_geo.asp

    I have always got an immediate response from Geo on my feedback..

  182. Kruman says:
    June 22nd, 2007 2:54 pm

    Kawa,
    Do you have similar addresses for AAJ and ARY?

  183. Kruman says:
    June 22nd, 2007 2:58 pm

    The private channels can always air a 2 minute delayed version of CJP’s address. Technically that is not live. This will also give the channels time to filter out content that may offend GHQ.

  184. KAWA1 says:
    June 22nd, 2007 10:54 pm

    Kruman; here are two

    http://www.aaj.tv/contactus.php

    ARY TV

    Also can you upload Altaf Hussain’s public address in India where he called the partition the biggest blunder of history. It was just shown in Hamid Mir’s program on Imran Khan’s insistance. Just shocking!

    I think it should be put on youtube as well so that people around the world can see the real face of this enemy.

  185. KAWA1 says:
    June 22nd, 2007 10:56 pm

    missed ARY. Here goes;

    info-en-q@wikimedia.org

  186. KAWA1 says:
    June 22nd, 2007 11:12 pm

    Ijaz Ul Haq today on Hamid Mir’s program deflected Hamid Mir’s question relating to Altaf Hussain’s speech in India by saying that BB provided lists of Sikh’s to India.

    My point is that at least she gave away lists of Sikh’s not of Muslims. The present Govt of which Ijaz is part of gave away every Taliban Muslim fighter’s list to America and not just that but picked up hundreds of our own citizens to be handed over for $10,000 per head. If Taliban’s are criminals ( which they might very well be…never a supporter of those monsters) then Ijaz’s father (the squint eyed General)was responsible for creating Taliban..

    Of all the leaders of Pakistan, Ijaz really ranks as the one with the lowest IQ. It’s surprising how he lasted in BCCI?

    50-69, Moron. 20-49, Imbecile. below 20, Idiot

    It’s obvious where he stands.

  187. KAWA1 says:
    June 23rd, 2007 1:21 am

    To all supporters of Imran Khan. Please sign up on his web site as voters and financial supporters ( all those who can afford to contribute a little..). Money always helps!

    http://www.insaf.org.pk/member/registration.aspx

    Also send e mails to Nawaz Shareef to join hands with Imran Khan and both parties should form a political alliance for upcoming elections.

    betterpakistan@gmail.com
    drluqman@pml1.org

  188. Kruman says:
    June 23rd, 2007 1:56 am

    Kawa,
    I have seen atleast 3 versions on youtube. Here are 2 of them:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=6V9AwSO3ae0
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=gMSVYTgFIPA

  189. KAWA1 says:
    June 23rd, 2007 10:27 am

    Kruman, Thanks. Will check it out.

  190. KAWA1 says:
    June 23rd, 2007 1:13 pm

    VERY INTERESTING; ALTAF HUSSAIN HARASSMENT OF HIS FATHER-IN-LAW FAISAL GABOL (YOUTUBE.
    PROBABLY SERVES HIM RIGHT TO MARRY HIS DAUGHTER TO THIS ANIMAL.

    gorayk
    “I have been under pressure since my daughter developed some domestic issues in London,” Gabol said.
    Gabol said three police mobile units were stationed outside his house along with 25 police personnel, some of which included officials of the CID. When Daily Times contacted the London MQM’s secretariat, it was told by Anis Advocate that the Sindh government was the relevant authority to speak to regarding the matter.
    (Reply)
    gorayk
    “Gizri SHO Irfan Kobra came to my house this afternoon around 3:00 p.m. and told me that he had orders to detain me in my house. This is sheer harassment, and this is not the first time that the government has proceeded against me. I was also stopped from travelling to London on May 28,” Gabol said. He said that the SHO told him that he was simply following orders, which were issued by SSP Amin Yousfzai
    (Reply)
    gorayk
    Former Sindh advisor and father-in-law of (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain, Faisal Gabol, claimed Friday that he has been placed under house arrest by the provincial government.
    Gabol, while speaking to Daily Times on the phone from his residence, said he was being detained but failed to give any reasons why. He said he did not know why he was not being allowed to leave his house. Gabol also said that he did not have any faith in his party, which is in power in Sindh

  191. Ayesha says:
    June 24th, 2007 2:55 am

    Everyone I know is going to vote for Imran Khan too. I hope he does well this time.

    Watching the coverage of Geo, Aaj and others, I think all the channels have really given up. Minimum coverage of CJ\’s Multan visit.

  192. Kruman says:
    June 24th, 2007 11:10 am

    Ayesha,
    Aaj TV did braodcast a recorded version of CJP’s brief speech in Sahiwal. I think they’ll do the same in Multan.

    Not airing speeches by Kurd, Aitzaz, Muneer Malik, Hamid Khan though is a gross injustice to the people of Pakistan. I am surprised why no one has challenged government order to ban live rcoverage of CJP’s visits in the the supreme court. The government order is a violation of fundmental human rights to freedom of expresssion.

    The best solution is for the channels to air a 2 minute delayed version of CJP’s visits. This will give them time to blackout any “inappropraite” material. Plus it does not violate the government order banning live coverge.

  193. Kruman says:
    June 24th, 2007 1:44 pm

    Sorry for the spam, but for those who are interested AAj is playing a recorded version of CJP’s address in Multan right now, 1:43pm (eastern time)

    Catch it on Aaj TV channel on jumptv.com.

  194. Ayesha says:
    June 25th, 2007 1:35 am

    Kruman: I agree with your 2 minutes delayed transmission solution but the problem is that govt wants complete blackout on live coverage of CJ and our media is NOT willing to fight back on this issue anymore. Where there is a will, there is a way.

    Like I said earlier, some kind of understanding has been reached. There is a petition filed in SC against medial live coverage ban but its not going anywhere becasue nobody is following up.

  195. KAWA1 says:
    June 25th, 2007 2:28 am

    I pointed this out about media. It’s all about the money game…advertisements of state enterprises that Govt controls and it runs in millions and millions of rupees.
    That is the blackmailing power it holds over the share holders who have ultimately have to look at their earnings..

    In the West, the media budget is split based on the viewers each channel has or circulation of papers and is not controlled on the whims of one individual who heads the state!!

    Hamid Mir’s on one of the blogs had a clear statement that they had to fight their owners and stand against them when they wanted to cut a deal with the govt..

    http://in.rediff.com/news/2007/jun/19hamid.htm

  196. KAWA1 says:
    June 27th, 2007 1:00 pm

    Please send your concerns about media transmission directly to;
    http://www.geo.tv/geop/tell_geo.asp

    Here’s the response I got from Geo;

    RE: CJ Coverage
    Thank you for writing to us, GEO TV always aims to bring best programming from South Asia for its viewers.

    We have forwarded your concerns to our News Department, if merited you will witness the changes soon.

    Once again we thank you for writing to us and appreciate your interest in our transmission. Your feedback is invaluable to us , keep on sending us your suggestions and looking forward to hearing from you in future.

    Regards

    Team GEO!

    Har Pal GEO!

  197. Kruman says:
    June 27th, 2007 1:41 pm

    Geo should taka cue from Aaj TV. Atleast Aaj has the guts to air full, unfiltered recorded speeches of CJP. I caught recorded versions of CJP’s speeches in Multan and Sahiwal on Aaj.

    I’ll write to Geo with a similar message. As you said there is no point whining on the blog.

  198. KAWA1 says:
    June 27th, 2007 6:58 pm

    I have never trusted the Geo/Jang management and I have my reasons having watched this group from Karachi very closely.

    Keep venting on this blog…we love to read your comments but yes, we must all go forward and target the people who are responsible and can make the change.

    Kudos to Aaj TV !

  199. Daktar says:
    June 27th, 2007 7:39 pm

    I find this whole discussion on Geo/Aaj a little childish. Unless people here are trying to promote one or malign the other (I hope not), then I don’t see the purpose of this. The media in general is doing a great job and this childish play of who is better than whom is really not worth it. What’s the point? You really think that THIS is what is going to make a difference? Whats the purpose of writing this on this blog? Instead of actually supporting those who are actually making a difference (the Pakistan media, specially electronic media) we are sitting on the sidelines mudslinging. Apart from some private vested interest in promoting one channel and bad mouting another, I do not see a purpose to this discussion that most readers here seem uninterested in anyhow.

  200. KAWA1 says:
    June 27th, 2007 11:04 pm

    Daktar
    Whoever you are, I do not care nor is your political acumen worth caring about.
    Firstly I think you jumped in with a hidden agenda. People like you were all quiet when media was showing people being killed in Karachi or was exposing Musharraf on CJ issue or showing the true face of Altaf. You were propbably one of those sending quiet e mails to Geo telling them that their actions were unpatriotic.

    Today when media gets choked by Mush, you jump in this conversation saying that media is doing a great job and should be supported.
    If you understand the meaning of “support”, what the hell are we talking about. Today Hamid Mir on Capital Talk stated that where are the viewers who were sending them e mails about how good a job they were doing… where are they now when journalists need awami support? Where are the e mails? People like Shakeel Ur Rehman think they can do a quiet deal with Mush. They are wrong because the working journalists will revolt against the media proprietors.

  201. Kruman says:
    June 28th, 2007 1:38 am

    Daktar,
    As private citizens with no vested interests we’ll just root for the bold TV channels who have the balls to defy government pressure. Aaj took the first step forward after the draconian pemra ordinance by airing delayed speeches of the CJP in Multan and Sahiwal.

    It is the duty of every Pakistani citizen who believes in freedom of expression to support Aaj so that other channels follow suit. We also want Aaj to take the next step forward and start airing the speeches of CJP’s lawyers as well.

  202. KAWA1 says:
    June 28th, 2007 2:31 pm

    Mush in his 12th Mar address to hired crowd rolled his fists and said that we will now respond force with force in Karachi (this while MQM was killing people like rabbits…).Little did he know that everything will be exposed with such clarity. MQM had guaranteed him that no witnesses and trace will be left to lead fingers back to them. that is why police cars were used to distribute ammunition..

    We have all heard Altaf Hussain being critical of everyone in Pakistan of all ethnic origins but again nobody should be critical of him… that is unacceptable. Geo might show “Hum Sub ummed Sa Haan” and ridicule everyone but no, no, no…not Peer Sahib!!! Media should and can be as free as it wants to be except don’t show incidences like Karachi killings (show it if it happens any where else or any other party involved in it) or don’t do Mush bashing or do not ridicule Altaf Hussain (see what happened to DAWN group for being negative on Peer sahib personality? Mush did not give them TV license …)

    They will make sure that media gives uncensored news if they are guaranteed that it will be all about ridiculing the opposing forces without showing their filth.
    The current censorship is not really because of lawyers speeches in the Supreme Court against the army. The only army Mush cares about is himself. In fact it is in his interest that other Generals get/remain defamed so that he continues to justify his role as the only acceptable General. That excuse was just to find a reason which could be a little bit acceptable to the nation. The real reason and one which haunted Mush was that media exposed the reality about MQM and Altaf by airing live coverage/killings being done by MQM that shocked the nation. Mush has being portraying MQM as a secular/liberal party for last 7 years. That was too much for him to gulp as it has created and stirred quiet discontent among senior military leadership. The nation thinks (or at least idiots like Ijaz or Chaudry’s) think that PML (Q) is Kings party. In reality MQM is kings party and their leader hand in hand with Mush.
    PML (Q) is just to do the dirty work for the General or to be used as an escape goat when things go wrong!!

    Why do you think Mush is currently upset with PML (Q)? Because Chaudry’s played smart for once and refused to share any responsibility of Mar 12th or try and deflect blame away from MQM. Smart move!!

  203. Ayesha says:
    June 29th, 2007 2:29 pm

    i leanred last night that live talk shows have also been shut down after live coverage. our media owners have proved to be a big disappointment.

    You will find this interesting. Changing role of Pakistani media

  204. kruman says:
    June 30th, 2007 12:24 am

    Kawa1,
    Buddy I have decided to start my own blog:
    http://kruman17.livejournal.com/

    While I really like this forum, the management is too intent on staying politcally correct, for my taste at least, no offence intended moderators.

    Peace!

  205. KAWA1 says:
    June 30th, 2007 9:27 am

    Kruman
    and it is about time…

    I agree with your views about this blog. Great forum but too much censorship….At times you actually feel like being on Geo TV after the restrictions….

  206. KAWA1 says:
    June 30th, 2007 10:29 am

    In continuation I would like to add that you also don’t want this site to become a forum like youtube.. full of abusive language!!

    In a way, I do want some credit going to the management of this blog. It wouldn’t be fair otherwise!!

  207. Kruman says:
    June 30th, 2007 11:36 pm

    Kawa1,
    You’ve echoed my feelings exactly. The moderators here do a great job of censoring foul and abusive language. My hats off to them for starting such a great site for Pakistanis and others to share their thoughts in a civil manner.

    Adil, Owais, Darwaish,
    I hope you will read my comments and give them some thought. If anything this is just constructive criticism. I feel that you guys are not representing the feelings of the vast majority of Pakistanis by being so defensive and protective of general Musharraf. You need to let people speak their mind about Musharraf (without using foul language), or else you’ll start alienating people.

    A response would be appreciated.

    An avid blogger on pakistaniat.com
    Kruman

  208. Kruman says:
    July 1st, 2007 5:30 am
  209. Darwaish says:
    July 3rd, 2007 3:53 am

    Hey guys:

    The only purpose of our moderation policy is to provide people a forum for a healthy and useful dialogue (as you also mention yourself in one of your comments). I don’t think we ever interfere in a discussion, unless people are using abusive language or start attacking others personally rather than staying on the topic and focusing on issues.

    In case you feel moderation policy was applied unnecessarily, feel free to send me such comments at chfarhad@hotmail.com and I will be happy to look at them. Also please comment on how we can improve our moderation policy anyways. We would love to have your continuous support.

  210. Kruman says:
    July 6th, 2007 2:24 pm

    How does the government feel about the ball-by-ball commentary now? Now Musharraf is patting the media on it’s back when it is diverting attention away from the important issues:
    - Devastation in Balochistan after the cyclone
    - CJP case hearing, verdict due within 2 weeks.
    - All parties conference

    I’d love for Aaj TV to pull the plug on this Mush Mulla production in Islamabad and start covering the APC, intervieweing Sharif borthers, Imran, Asfandyar Wali and the lawyers and retired judges.

    They should also start airing the views of Aitzaz Ahsan, Kurd sahib, Muneer Malik on the situation in Islamabad.

  211. KAWA1 says:
    July 8th, 2007 9:42 pm

    The Lal masjid episode is a minuscule version of what MQM did in Karachi on Mar 12th.

    Both Ghazi Rasheed and Altaf have amazing similarities; My way and no other way. Maulana Rasheed stated that they have no guns and yet any attempt to enter Lal masjid would be resisted and blood will flow…

    Altaf Hussain stated that his followers had no guns but if anyone (opposition) and CJ attempt to visit Karachi the people of Karachi will resist and the clash might result in a bloodshed.

    In one case the parameter covers several hundred square yards. In the other the entire city was made hostage and out of bounds for all.

    Our President in Lal Masjid’s case states that “Sub Mara Jayan Ga” and we will not allow these guys to take guns and hold the state hostage.

    In Karachi’s case or MQM case, Mush said he had no evidence that MQM used guns ( probably he has not signed on for aaj TV cable channel)??? He further stated that as a political party their people had the right???? As for initiating an inquiry, he said there was no reason to hold one… Forget what happened and lets move forward!!!!

    Now with a Colonel of pak Army dead, Mush wants a taste blood. In Major Kaleem’s death in the hands of MQM, he wants the case shut and S.I.B has been instructed to scrap the file.

    The two faced cammondo general/president.

  212. July 13th, 2007 3:16 pm

    govt is now controlling media. they allowed live coverage in red mosque/Lal Masjid when it suited them but when operation started, they just threw them out. we had to rely on speculative reporting mostly and still nobody knows what really happened inside red mosque. how many have died and how much they really had?

  213. Aftab Zia says:
    July 13th, 2007 3:19 pm

    and where are those foreigners anyways? I just wonder if the truth will come out one day when mushy is gone. the same media will start showing the stories and reports about number of people this regime has killed in 7, 8 or God knows how many years.

  214. Darwaish says:
    July 13th, 2007 3:28 pm

    Sorry for flooding this post but you might find this article by Ismail Hussain very interesting.

  215. Kruman says:
    July 19th, 2007 6:21 pm

    I just noticed that the editorials in the Daily Nation are referring to the president as general Pervez Musharraf. Previously they’d address him as president general Pervez Musharraf.
    http://nation.com.pk/daily/july-2007/20/editorials.php

    All I can say on this is the age old saying:
    Zaban-e khalq, naqara-e khuda

  216. MKI says:
    August 13th, 2007 10:10 am

    Pakistani media and Geo in particular are partly responsible for spreading rumors and creating unnecessary sensation. I am sick and tired of Geo for alerting Breaking News 3-4 times a day. Usually their breaking news are just another news.

    Its about time that tv channels set a code of conduct for themselves.

  217. Abrar says:
    August 13th, 2007 10:25 am

    Worth reading: Media and Democracy

    Media and Democracy

  218. Sumair Lalani says:
    August 14th, 2007 1:18 am

    Guys,
    one thing to mention sincerely you all guys are going with high intentions, because our system (not GOVERNMENT) is pakistan isl ikely to dump and its for a live and take basis that this country wont make any thing even in more, stepahead 60 years….

    Please my concern is that, if anyone can upload the video of song PAKISTAN ZINDABAD! or tell me its link where GEO CARTOONS are spoofing it and expalining and taunting different issues and problems in dramatic way in this national song.
    Please help me out i need it urgently and its for a NOBLE purpose

  219. mrs samreen imran says:
    August 14th, 2007 3:44 am

    salam, To all Pakistan.
    Geo i conguralte you on your fiveth birthday.
    Geo is one of the best channel in the world.
    And our all family love it very much.
    Allah Hafiz

  220. mj says:
    August 15th, 2007 6:39 am

    @Sumair: you can find the cartoons and the song on youtube.

    I am waiting for elections this year. Everyone is saying that this election would be contested on media. Should be very interesting what impact media has on our elections.

  221. Kruman says:
    August 16th, 2007 3:36 pm

    Media should have covered the CJ’s speech on 14th August live.

    http://dawn.com/2007/08/15/top5.htm

  222. Asghar says:
    August 17th, 2007 6:38 am

    I like the decision by SC judges that they wouldn’t attend any ceremony or function where President, Prime Minister or any govt minister is present. Looks a clear message to government that things have changed.

  223. JP says:
    August 24th, 2007 2:54 pm

    The way Sher Afghan Niazi was talking about court decision on Geo is disgusting. I didn\’t like the way Geo tried to highlight it again and again so that a court atleast takes a contempt action. Hamid was having fun and trying to pump that fool Sher Afghan to say more and more and yet also reminding him that he could end up in jail.

    Media should also keep in mind its responsibility and avod doing unnecessary namak mirch reporting.

  224. JP says:
    August 24th, 2007 2:57 pm

    Sher Afghan in trouble. Read here

  225. Waqas says:
    August 30th, 2007 6:21 pm

    PTA has warned mobile phone users against exchanging anti-government and anti-Musharaf sms messages. They say that they will act against such subscribers. Isn’t it violation of our right to exercise freedom of speech? Another attempt of this government to crack down on media (though a different one)

  226. Waqas says:
    August 30th, 2007 6:23 pm

    Does anyone has details of what kinda action they are going to take. I send Musharaf jokes to my friends very often. Does that mean I can be arrested?

  227. Asghar says:
    September 2nd, 2007 1:17 am

    They are planning to block the SIM, impose heavy fines and in the worst case, possibly arrest you.

  228. Junaid Khakwani says:
    September 2nd, 2007 1:29 am

    Yeah, free SMS service has also been shut down by mobile phone companies without even a notice. The dictator has gone mad during his last days.

    Its a shame really!!!

  229. September 10th, 2007 2:32 am

    Mushraf go to Turkey and enjoy but never block media
    and news this is not solve problems

    very bad

  230. YA says:
    September 10th, 2007 12:05 pm

    Dr. Shaid Masood ig brialiant GEO take care of him

  231. Faisal says:
    September 18th, 2007 4:06 pm

    We should thank Musharaf for all the freedom he has given to media. The way Geo\’s program Ham Sab Umeed Se Hein and other channels ridicule top government officials including the president is amazing. Before 1999, nobody would have even dare to do things like they do now like Musharaf singing qawali with his cabinet. And who has given this to Pakistan? A so called non-democratic army chief, who is also the president. People will realize this after he is gone. Just wait.

  232. Iftikhar says:
    September 22nd, 2007 6:35 am

    Media is just having fun, ridiculing politicians and their blunders. Its all just ways of making money thru namak mirch.

  233. Amir Mukhtar says:
    September 24th, 2007 7:04 pm

    Did anyone see the great debate on Geo? Govt. lawyer Ahmed Qusuri used so much abusive language that I can’t believe he is a barrister. People get ready to face Wasi Zafar Part II. lol

  234. Rafay Kashmiri says:
    September 24th, 2007 8:31 pm

    Pakistan’s channels are not at all on their utmost, quality of the segments are very low, stupid dramas, horrible Urdu, 80% english mixed,subjects propogandists, political immaturity,of course western “style”, but unfortunately Azadi “pacch” nehien
    rehi hey, as they

  235. Rafay Kashmiri says:
    September 24th, 2007 8:39 pm

    Are these channels representing Pakistan and our region or is it
    a foreign channels showing their segments in our skin.?? i.g. why there is never a detailed series of Indus valley civilisation which is territorially situated within Pakistan, defending Pakistani authentic food out side in Europe or America, is not it
    a shame that the whole world talks only of India and her culture, when they talk about the origins of navigation, they say
    it started in river sind, thats it , where is river sind, never. etc.

  236. Zeeshan says:
    September 28th, 2007 4:35 am

    PEMRA is in action again and warned media to be careful in their live coverage and coverage of President’s two offices case.

    SC decision on Mushy future is coming today at 2:15 pm. Fingers crossed. I hope they give a verdict that stops military intervention in politics forever. This should end now. enough is enough.

  237. Crackdown on Media says:
    September 29th, 2007 3:49 pm

    There was partial crackdown on media once again today. Still no geo,aaj and ary in some parts of Islamabad. Cable operators took off news channels from some parts of Sindh, replaced by music and disco channels. That is disgusting and shameful really.

  238. Reema says:
    October 1st, 2007 8:27 pm

    R/sir
    My words may be less or more for those people who have the power to govern the Government but it will be best if you will take serious notice against all the ministers and also government servants.

    I Hope that you will also think for our Sindh Province because it is going to get rust in the other districts except Karachi these rusts are so much harmful for us so please take an action against them.

    In the sindh mostly the people are living hand to mouth life due to poverty. even educational instutions are full of our locl political parties so due to that purpose we can not get education from colleges or univerisities the corruption is free from all the laws every one understand that to take bribe is my virtue

    Some of the areas are those where still today no one has been provided the facilities as if they are not the residient of the Pakistan.

    All the things have been too much dear that only the Rich man can purchase if there are the things to purchased by the poor are only the impurified things.

    some of the shop keepers have their own rates
    they donot follow the lists. A thing its cost is noly 5 rupees but after the budget it is to be sold out in 10 rupees and when the reason is to be asked they say that 2 rupees of Government tax and 3 rupees of our profit
    it is only for their own lust.

    Teachers of the institutions are going to be terminated from their schools and colleges and on their posts some of other who are not able to teach the students they are teaching.

    Roads and sports grounds are cracked and the saverage system goes in to the homes of people.

    Inflation and poverty and terrorisim have establish their net here in the Sindh every day that network is spreading day by day and people are going to die by these

    diasastars . Basic needs of every pakistani are Pure water gas and electricity , education , work, and other institutions we could not have got still today .if the institutions are then donot keep value to solve the problems , can not be able to help the people.so the in the Government hospitals the patients are like as the goats and no one comes to care for them The medicines are not available the police is corrupt and on the Bakers the things we use in daily life they are going to sell their things not according to the shops they are saying that their is difference between the quality.

    Always no any one is going out from his house after the sun is to be set out

    Media does not write and show real criminals and not take the serious interviews from the leadres and our politicians and from those who live in the Pakistan

    Hotels are every where our jobless pubilic and students and the wanderer people are wasting their time in the hotels or in the games centres

    the body selling is the profession and drinking wine is the duty and killing people is the fight and corruption is our purpose the development is to rout out the education and

    snatching the rights from the public

    rich has always each and every thing but poor has always nothing that is in our minds that should not be done with poor

    job are not availale only the landlord and feudollords and the police and some unsincere politician are cutting our heads

    the good programmes are not shown to the public

    electricity is always in load shedding the theft of the electricity is the product produced by the it self wapda to fill the pockets.
    they are taking monthly from these people . A rich man or a officor or the leader or the landlord they are paying bills but the bill comes according to their wish
    in the house of poor we can not imagine that where from he will pay.

    Bus stands are not every bus comes and stops any where as that is bus stop there is traffic signal and also the traffic police they are appearing when then they want to get their money from the public and teasing the public and from public the officors and landlord are not following these rules.

    the justice is not available here only the fake cases are full of records Police, Advocate, judge are the involved to make false case and to punish and are hanging them who are innocent people the NGO,s , WHO, and other instituions are not performing very well . day by day pollution and population and the honor killing is increasing .no one is ready to control on it .

    we need the free leaders free media free justice and free democracy free education free jobs free plots free basic rights

    I hope that my words keep no importance but these words can change the pakistan

    ABC channel you must publish my words because these are the words of pakistatni nation so Please send this email to every leader of pakistan every channel of pakistan

    every news paper every court of pakistan every every assembly of pakstan

    I hope that you will do that work we shall pray for you if I heard or saw my words by any pakistani channel or newspaper

  239. Mubeen says:
    October 4th, 2007 6:57 pm

    First it was PEMRA and now SCP judges are also taking on media. Javed Iqbal and Nawaz Abbasi (SCP Judges) strongly criticized TV channels for doing talk shows about the SC judgement about Musharaff\’s uniform.

    I think Pakistani media will be in more serious trouble in coming weeks and months.

  240. aijaz aslam says:
    October 21st, 2007 7:56 am

    gov loose.

  241. October 21st, 2007 7:58 am

    shame gov

  242. Waheed Farooq says:
    November 3rd, 2007 11:02 am

    Assalam o Alaikum,

    so we got the news, as it was expected. now its clear that we are still ” GHULAAAMs”. it can also be said that All India Compnay’s dominance is still there, but the masters are changed, time to time.
    At last the Gen has done what he desired and proved all his claims wrong, for the freedom of media and Courts, that clearly means to make this nation his slaves and he is also a slave of ………………….., (he knows much better than us), i beleive that he is doing for the best of Pakistan (as he always claimed),
    may be pakistan is still in the cave life, when one “AAQA” used to rule. and no body was allowed to do anything against his master.
    in the end i would like condemn the Gen.’s recent action. when he will ‘ hosh k nakhun lay ga’ then it will be too late. i suggest him to think of his decisions, (which are in his favour and against all this poor nation)

    May Allah give us freedom from this American Dog.
    (maloom nai k ye email b kaheeen pohch paye ya internet connections per bee “mulak k waseeeh ter mufaad men” pabandi lag jaye

  243. Yousaf says:
    November 3rd, 2007 11:18 am

    Marshalllaw is imposed and emergency is declared. all pakistani channels disapperaed from cable.

  244. RajaAhmad says:
    November 3rd, 2007 1:11 pm

    i donot now what Government is trying to do.but one thing i am sure that Musharraf can do any thing to save his presidency.Even he can go to extreme limit.He is not sincere to his country.

  245. kashif sheikh says:
    November 3rd, 2007 1:18 pm

    Can someone also post General Aslam Beg

  246. Rehima Rehmani says:
    November 3rd, 2007 1:30 pm

    I am unable to logon to the GEO website. Has it been blocked?

  247. nadee alvi says:
    November 3rd, 2007 2:30 pm

    Very very sad incedient .
    By imposing such type of practices how you can emphasis to pepoles to love their mothereland. Can we claim this is our country or some one else how is master of our fate……………………. where we must stand.
    Do you think that Qaid Azam wanted such type of socity…….. Think ….?

    Nadeem Alvi Jhang

  248. Waseem Ashraf Awan says:
    November 3rd, 2007 2:42 pm

    “SHARM TUM KO MAGAR NAHI AATI”

    Hope soon we will stand with Ethopia

  249. ASIF RASHEED says:
    November 3rd, 2007 2:55 pm

    MEIN SIRF KEHNA CHAHTA HOON K MR MUSHARRAF HI HUB UL WATAN REH GAYA HAI PAKISTAN MEIN.YE SUN KER HASI ATI HAI APNEY PAKISTANI HONEY PER.

  250. dr usman ghani says:
    November 3rd, 2007 3:44 pm

    i just wana say that poor people in pakistan are asking for justice through out their life but there is no one to listen them . look at our president he has done all that he could do in this country and is doing. being a pakistani i can just pray for pakistan. may ALLAH HELP US

  251. nahla says:
    November 3rd, 2007 3:53 pm

    Dr Shahid thank u for sittinging for hours on geo along with other reporters takng us through the worsening situation in Pakistan. Today I am ashamed that my country is ruled by someone who is not only a bitter loser but also a boot licker of the states.I want to ask people of Pakistan to wake up and stop this man who is ready to sell our integrity and break us in to pieces. May Allah helps to get rid of this malignant tumer (Musharaf) by cutting him and removing him from our land

  252. syed A says:
    November 3rd, 2007 4:31 pm

    I have read some of the comments above and now I would like to present my comments.

    I watch GEO all the time and specially the way things are going right now in Pakistan. I would like to ask from Geo channel and specially that Dr. you is commenting on situations scince morning, did you find one person ever who can support the Gen Musharraf and his goverment. Why you are showing interveiws, discussions and photos and comments of all those people who are against the present Govt. Is there a political link between Geo and opposition parties. Did any body in your institution ever go to a media learing schools, done political scince or have a decency to show both openions. I think you are taken advantage of your media licence. You need to be shut down compeltely.

  253. omer says:
    November 3rd, 2007 4:58 pm

    We see geo in middle east very clear, there are no clouds. I think geo should start its own web streaming from now on.
    We pray for this country to get it rid of such rulers………..

  254. Khan says:
    November 3rd, 2007 5:35 pm

    I think these are the last breaths of musharaf rule as he has commited a very big blunder

  255. HAMAD REHMAN says:
    November 3rd, 2007 11:37 pm

    hello i am from jhelum i want to say that in jhelum the transmition of geo ARY AAJ CNN BBC AND SKY NEWS IS BLOCKED

  256. azam ihsan says:
    November 4th, 2007 1:05 am

    I fully agree with Mr. Imran Khan’s statement that Musharraf has committed treason for the second time .

  257. November 4th, 2007 1:39 am

    I AM VERY ASHAMED BE A PAKISTANI WHY MUSHARAF DOING BAD PLZ NOT SO GREEDY MAN U ALSO ANSWER AGAINT ALLAH

  258. Riaz says:
    November 4th, 2007 1:40 am

    This is a very shameful decision of self made so called President Musharraf. He has disrupted the political process and thrown the country to Marial Law. Dear Fellows Martial Law has been imposed in the name of Emergency. Now the Public of Pakistan should resist by all means and throw Musharraf and his allied Army Generals out of power and send them to trial for their acts.

  259. m iqbal qudri says:
    November 4th, 2007 2:19 am

    this is a acat of loseing comander this not over pakistan .this a masharf pakistan

  260. Hamza says:
    November 4th, 2007 2:50 am

    The free media balckout is reaily Frustrating. I am sure it will Adversely effect the cable business- am off to purchase a dish antena and ensure to have it install it inside my overhead tank as I am also sure of the fact that soon houses will be raided for having satelite antennas and watching GEO TV. Dr. Shahid Masoods comparision to Raza Shah’s last period- I would say it is totally possible that the terms like free media and names like Dr Shahid Masood will expunged officially as the Shah did to Dr Mussadiq.

    Kruman we would like to believe in the power of people

  261. Farah says:
    November 4th, 2007 8:12 am

    How weird is this. All the electronic media is down. It seems to me that the general doesn’t want to hear a bad word against himself. His address to the nation was so patronising. He should quit, but that is not likely. Either way, he has landed himself into a huge hole, and I can’t wait to see how he is going to get himself out of this one.

  262. omer says:
    November 4th, 2007 9:45 am

    this action show there is no constitute i ask government why this action takes palace

  263. imran says:
    November 4th, 2007 9:51 am

    president MUSHARRAF is to be saluted for maintaining the freedom of electronic media.ALTHOUGH geo news is suspended from hours “a true example of freedom” so what else we want.this is PRESIDENTS OWN TYPE OF FREEDOM.

  264. m abid says:
    November 4th, 2007 10:53 am

    yeh billi choohey ka khail kab khatam hoga,yeh kahan hamari kismat………….

  265. Rafay Kashmiri says:
    November 4th, 2007 12:06 pm

    Darwaish,

    Variety of comments, but very few to the point,
    Question ?

    Was the Media CORRECT ?, TV, Official and Private
    Channels, electronic, written, 7 dimensional art Drama Theater concerts, Musique etc etc. if we make a small Balance sheet since its freedom???

    We have to admit that maximum freedom was given by Mushy, but was for evil use, to promote secularism,
    Fahashi, uryaniate, family life ruine, Sharam Haya disappeared,” Ikhtilat-e-jismani”, cheap romantic
    Latcher culture , Full Fledge war declared against
    Islam and muslim dignitories, there is whole list.

    The Balance Sheet is BLEAK, Sorry, Azadi Pachiy nehien.

    It was great time that this criminel attitude be put to an
    END.

  266. Adnan says:
    November 4th, 2007 8:40 pm

    I think we as a nation deserve all this. Blaming a govt can’t hide our own mistakes. When we ourselves violate laws, we say,”Abay yaar kia hogaya” . Govt ppl are “MaiBap” so they violate bigger crimes? Baray log bari harkatain. God doesn’t help those nation who can’t help themselves so even prayers only can’t be fruitful anymore. Dictatorship in Pakistan has been sucessful because they followed what their papa Uncle Farangi taught them 60+ years back that is,”Divide and Rule”. Indians had brains so they didn’t listen and kept army aside and results are infront of us. It doesn’t mean Indian army is impotent, it’s just they are _weaker_ infront of Awam’s strength. They know that they exist because of Awam. You can’ t expect something like thelka.com’s activities in Pakistan.

    Mush has achieved something or not, atleast he was successful to divide this nation further something which was not even achieved by Yahya who gifted us Bangladesh. Ironically our so called middle class has been fuel of this fire for long time. They are rather more busy to promote foreign agenda here and there rather considering Pakistanis their OWN people.

    In expats ka kia hay, Khuda na karay Pakistan ko kuch huwa tha local pub mey jakar beth jaye gey aur jab koi nationality pochay ga, forum apne ko Indians zahir kardey gey. Interesting friends, very Interesing *grin*

  267. Dr.SOHAIR SADIQ says:
    November 5th, 2007 9:37 am

    well i think the govt of pakistan has proved itself wrong about the boasting they did regarding the so called freedom of media….still if the people in the govt suspect the nation to give them votes they r living in a fools paradise.this govt has done not a single thing to bring prosperity to the people of pakistan and it is doin nothing for the rivival of democracy in pakistan.geo news was among the one of the very best channels of news all over the world and brilliant people like HAMID MIR AND MR.IFTIKHAR HAD REALLY MARKED THEIR PRESENCE ALONG WITH THE MESSAGE THT TRUTH STILL HURTS MANY PEOPLE!!!

  268. Rafay Kashmiri says:
    November 5th, 2007 11:34 am

    Dr.Sohair Sadiq,

    Geo is not only Hamid Mir, or Iftikhar, they are NOT
    the policy makers of Geo, which had been detected and
    charged with anti-Islamic and anti-muslim- culture,
    along with the others.

    The entire media must be brought before a tribunal
    to judge their ” mazaaq” with the nation in the name
    media freedom and politics propaganda.

    Two years of complete freedom, what have you done ?
    As I said earlier, lets make full accounts !!

  269. Sohail Agha says:
    November 5th, 2007 11:43 am

    http://tinyurl.com/2mrspy

    This is what the

  270. Rafay Kashmiri says:
    November 5th, 2007 1:16 pm

    Sohail Agha

    who cares what the west says about this, this and that!!

    they are the ones who brought Mushy on the top of power,

    now the west in the ” hard labour” to come in front of the

    colonial row to acclaim agains the championship of

    human rights, they better shut their mouths.!!

  271. Farhan Butt says:
    November 5th, 2007 1:16 pm

    The biggest blunder of president Musharraf after ordering the CJ to sack earlier this year,is the imposing of emergency in the nation which is already thread-torn.I believe this would prove to be the last step of the president.I think president would fled to Astanbol where he has a palace or he would fly to the U.S to save his life from the angry Pakistani nation.He may be killed in a suicide bomb attack like Indra Gandhi or Rajeo Gandhi.This country is not the personal territory of a ruler.I demand that all news channels should be given permission to go on air immediately.

  272. November 5th, 2007 1:17 pm

    I think its a good step by the government as they were not showing any decency or respect to the government, the government who gave the independency to the media
    and these channels were only misleading the nation and spreading the uncertainity , this government is better from the past govts.

  273. Rafay Kashmiri says:
    November 5th, 2007 1:39 pm

    Waqar Wasim Akram,

    since last year I have been sending letters and letters to
    Pemra and Minister of Information about the attitide
    of this anti-Islamic Gunda gardi, on nearly all the free
    Channels, you have segments entirely anti-muslims, I have been sending letters to the chiefs of the segments and I
    got insults in return, I have got e-mails replys., they were
    found accusing Islam, muslims, ullemas, anything to do
    with Islam, enough is enough, they should explain now !!

  274. Rafay Kashmiri says:
    November 5th, 2007 4:16 pm

    Pemra and Information Ministry, Justice Ministry

    After having dangerous experiences with the
    Media’s freedom, we should now have a
    Charter between two parties, guaranteeing
    not only freedom, but with clear cut
    reponsibilities, imparatively including
    check and Balance

  275. November 5th, 2007 6:38 pm

    If you want to watch Pakistan’s top News Channels .

    GEO News Live Video web address is:

    http://www.geotv.net/

    ARY One World & ARY Digital Tv Live Video web address is:

    http://www.Arydigitaltv.com/

  276. gul says:
    November 6th, 2007 4:42 pm

    I do appreciate and enjoy geo tv programs and thank you for the information and continous enlightenment.

    I do agree that seige on media is not right and there should be NO SEIGE at all. Do you think that we as nation have the “political leadership” that can bring us to the civilized maturity and capability of sustainig indiscriminate tolerance towards each other?

    I do want to bring up is the obvious bias that I thought “DID NOT” exist in GEO juornalism. Responsibilty is very important and your anger is very obvious.

    Dr. Masood and Kamran Khan are my favorites I enjoy their programs more than CNN and other international tv medias but one thing I have to agree with Sheikh Rashid that in considering the overwhelming influence of journalism, putting just one “Nukta” can change “Mehrum” to “Mujrim” I with all my heart want Dr. Masood to continue to enlighten us and like as said I love his passion and insights. God knows I DO NOT not want him to stop or change a thing. Just one request please be patient and let us the viewers listen and decide where the decietfulness is coming and where there is if any shred of sincerity is (Altough most of the times Ploitics and Sincerelty are oxy morans and our opposition is proving it by not providing the needed leadership at this extremely difficult stage)

    We were extremely thankful and amazed at the leaverage media had during the horrible episode of LaL Masjid . Do you think anti government elements would have that much access even in contry like US? Media is not that much free here. All “Terrorism” related tapes and material is censored or reviewed by the government before airing and if there is any pre determined relays they are addressed damage control becomes priority.

    While I do understand that politics and freedom fighting is extremely painstaking, I never had courage to participte in politics because of life threat to say the least, what is this stoning and throwing rocks by “VUKLA” aren’t they supposed to be reasoning as lawyers and setting an example of proving their point by not resolving or instigating violence?

  277. areeba says:
    November 9th, 2007 4:07 am

    hum mushraf aur is ki army se kaisay jaan churwain jis ne might is right ka rule banaya ha. cheif justice of pakistan ko kaisey bachaian hum un ka saath hain but kuch nahin ker saktay kuon ka poltician aur media sub bebus hain aisay main hum kia kerain bus Allah se hi keh saktay hain Allah army aur mush ko khatam ker dain

  278. Mansoor says:
    November 9th, 2007 11:31 am

    Reporting on media should not be biased. They should show both sides of the picture. I think our media was not used to the freedom they got. They could not handle it and blew the oppurtunity to be free. People like Shahid Masood and Hamid Mir are biased hosts. Hamid Mir is interesting but Shahid Masood is an overrated host? journalist? Doctor?

  279. Adam Insaan says:
    November 9th, 2007 3:14 pm

    Areeba@

    ameen.

  280. asfandyar says:
    November 10th, 2007 3:20 am

    pakistan news channels are bbanned this is not good for pakistan public.the all channnels will start soon because geo news not start then we did not listern true news and musharaf wll be very happy geo or aaj channel is banned.

  281. Kamal Siddique says:
    November 10th, 2007 10:42 am

    The staements between Benazir and Musharraf are just (Noora kushti) actually, this is just to show that Benazir is against Musharraf to gain public support, otherwise, she will die politically It is well known fact that she has agreement with Musharraf. This is just to making fool of Pakistani public.
    She will also not last for long as PM if elected by any means. The real agitation is by the lawyers and the oppositions and not Benazir. Musharraf will bring Benazir and she will go very soon !!!!!

  282. maria says:
    November 11th, 2007 2:32 am

    i would like to condemn the imposition of martial law and blocking out all news channels.musharraf aziz and all the members of their cabinet are the criminals of Pakistan and its constitution.Put them behind the bar.

  283. Sajid says:
    November 13th, 2007 12:10 am

    I am student of Political science and i want to present the modern defination of democracy as ” a system in which the people have access to information.” It is extrremly condemnable that the masses of Pakistan have deperieved from their fundamental rights i.e. access to information and justice.
    We appeal the civilized community that stand for basic human rights. The media persons in Pakistan we , the people of Pakistan, in the name of their liberty and freedon are standing with you. may God almighty bless on this nation.”

  284. Riaz Awan says:
    November 15th, 2007 6:17 am

    EMERGENCY MUBARAK
    Chacha wardi pai rakh,
    Qaom nu thaley lai rakh.
    Chor lutere aasay pasay,
    Khir kir niklan tere hasay,
    Qaom nu injh he satai rakh.
    Chacha wardi pai rakh,
    Char caferey foji dissan,
    Wardi walay hasan wasan,
    Log awam roti nu tarsan,
    Tandoor zulm da tapai rakh,
    Chacha wardi pai rakh,
    Zulam di hadd keti ja
    raat awam di peti ja

  285. Riaz Awan says:
    November 15th, 2007 6:59 am

    Salam to
    Jeo and Aaj channel
    never compromise on Principle what ever u have to face
    Our best wishes alway for u and u r team
    God Bless u and Pakistan

  286. Darwaish says:
    November 15th, 2007 8:24 am

    Aaj tv and Dawn news are back in Lahore along with CNN, BBC. Such a relief.

    Anyone has update on the fate of rest of the channels?

  287. Asma Aziz says:
    November 15th, 2007 11:37 am

    hi
    i want say here that i m big lover of geo news but unfortunately govt has banned this channel in all over the pakistan i come on net to see the geo news on website but i dont know y geo news vedio news is not working on internet cable plz try to solve my this problem thanks
    GEO R JEENY DO :)

  288. Syed wasim Ali says:
    November 17th, 2007 12:22 am

    Slam Alikum Pakistan.
    My name is Wasim & Im working in oman.
    by hearing the news that Geo is shutting Down was just more then shock.every true pakistane loves Geo news because Geo is only Patriotic Chanel of pakistan.Inshall Geo will be back Soon & we shall be abel to See Shaid Masood ,Hamid Mir ,Kamran Khan ,Sana Mirza & all .we all love Geo.Geo & Jeena Du Mushraf.

  289. Syed wasim Ali says:
    November 17th, 2007 12:30 am

    Jeena Do General.

  290. A Ali says:
    November 17th, 2007 3:22 am

    Having viewed Geo News coverage and distasteful mocking of General Musharraf, journalists need to understand basic respect like Islam recommends and not be reporting ‘spin’ and giving coverage to individuals disagreeing for the sake of it, like in Western nations.

    Geo must respect Gen Musharraf as Head of State, during this intense period of change and pressure. Frankly the other candidates on offer have showed their true colours and are not even worthy of consideration nevermind attending a demonstration for.

    As someone who has lived in UK, within democracy for 40 years, i know it is a falacy and true freedom of speech is always dampened down by Governments, in anycase. Society here is at malfunction stage, through conditioning using the media and so called freedom of speech.

    Please use now start using Geo resources to positive effect and be rid of the incessant culture of corruption within almost all institutions. If not reversed it will cost the Pakistan economy dearly through lack of foreign investors which potentially exist in droves within UK, whilst other neighbouring nations strive forward. You are lucky – you have natural resources in abundance, but talented people being distracted by this freedom of speech thing, AND not proper islam.

    Democracy as an idealogy can not compete against proper Islam (and not the one being paraded in most of Pakistan at the moment), but must be subservient to it. Sometimes stating the obvious can be a good wake up call, if it is stated by someone from the outside.

  291. OMAR says:
    November 17th, 2007 4:07 am

    PLEASE NO NEED TO WORRY WE ALLL WILL BE BACK(INSHALLAH)…..I PRAY FOR YOU…AND INTERNATIONAL PEOPLE ARE WITH YOU WHERE EVER YOU GO…
    GEO NEWS YOU ARE THE BEST OF ALLL
    “GOD WILL HELP US AAMIN”
    I THINK I COUGHT IN PRISON
    INSHALLAH TRUTH WILL RISE

  292. M Arshad says:
    November 17th, 2007 4:54 am

    Up till recently, We in the UK did not think much of Pakistani tv programmes as everyone seems to mimick western mannerism and they think its cool which is a double whemy. However, what a refreshing change GEO had brought. Wonderful programmes on current affairs, great analysis and superbly brave and daring journalism. I think two things are absolute must for Pakistan to get somewhere – free media and free judiciary. Without these you can have the sham domocracy of Musharraf and his incompetent ministers and it would not make much difference at all. Geo Geo, Geenay do Musharraf

  293. Rafay Kashmiri says:
    November 17th, 2007 2:30 pm

    @BB da Laal Awami Inqilab,

    BB lutt machai ja
    BB Dhong Rachai ja
    Sharifa’n no lamay pai ja
    US nal Sauday kari ja
    Mush nal pehla’n pai ja
    Seculari apni jamai ja
    Awam no’n dhokay dai ja
    Surkhyan no’n maal phrai ja
    UNO OIL FOR FOOD tay
    lokan no’n phodu banai ja
    Jumhorian nal Pechay pai ja
    Shaitani hurbay larai ja
    Tay Emergency lugwai ja

  294. November 17th, 2007 2:47 pm

    this is our leadership which says that we r the most democrecy holders in pakistan .i ask the musharaf that if this is democrecy?shem shem on musharaf u r not a gentel man this is a big shem on our country all over the world go musharaf go we not want u a single second ok .geo tum sada sall geo tv

  295. naveed says:
    November 18th, 2007 9:34 am

    we didnt hated musharaf untill what he has done to the country and its people and to the media. its totally unacceptable what he has done to us by taking away the freedom of speech and taking away such an important source of news,entertaint and lots more for the pakistanies living outside pakistan and the people living with in the country.

  296. sara khan says:
    November 19th, 2007 11:21 pm

    hi,
    i am very like to see geo news. i know you will be back soon. Best of luck for furtur. i like Shahid Masood

  297. khaled says:
    November 21st, 2007 11:46 am

    I really regret to know the shutting down of Geo TV and ARY one world. Who is responsible for all this? Off course the political parties not the military. Because they have no idea how to run the country. Twice fully powered Mian Nawaz sharif just looted us and gone, and the same with BB. May I put some responsibility on media’s shoulders too? It is correct that media should work under free atmosphere, and president claim the freedom was given to the media by him, but media and specially programs hosted by Hamid Mir and Dr Shahid and the Kashif Abbasi and some others, were exploding the matters, for the nation for whom it is too early era to digest such kind of hard propaganda. I never saw BBC or CNN or any other free media exploding in same way like our channels were doing. The worst program ever I have seen (Grand Debate), can be taken as an example. I will ask who has given them the rights to arrange such nonsense debate, where the people from opposition and from the government were firing the dirty language on each other. It was being watched all over the world and we Pakistanis were feeling embracement. Do you think these channels were serving Pakistan by doing this? I felt that some foreign powers are paying them to disgrace Pakistan and the people of Pakistan, and they were serving the cause so smoothly. Now tell me what did they get after doing all this propaganda? Nothing but the OFF AIR and the jobs of poor employees of these channels in danger. They have to please think and change the aptitude, and do the same propaganda. Do criticize anyone but not with hot pipers and salt mixed with it. I wish them the best of luck.
    Khaled

  298. farooq says:
    November 22nd, 2007 11:50 am

    Since GEO transmission has been shut down, it seems to be the complete black out of NEWS from Pakistan. I feel so bad and request to the Government to please allow GEO and other channels to be on air again.
    Here I will ask the GEO management to please answer some of my questions if you feel like to be. Though criticism is the right of every person on the government’s wrong policies, but some of the good steps taken by any government should be appreciated too.
    I would like to bring under your kind notice the excellent step of the past governments of Mian Nawaz Sharif and Benazir Bhutto. Do you remember when Mian sahib came into power 2nd time and he opened the prim minister debt relief fund and asked the nation to send money, and I remember the money was sent by the whole nation specially non resident Pakistanis in that account. What happened to that money?
    And Mian sahib motivated the Pakistani Nation to open the dollar account in the country, and what happened to that account when atomic blast accoured and Mian sahib announced the emergency at that time. All those accounts were frozen and we got only rupees instead of dollars with the rate announced by Mian sahibs regime. Do you want us to believe Mian sahib again?

    When Benazir came in power 2nd time Mr. zardari was famous as Mr. 10% and later they shifted lot of money in Swiss accounts. She and her husband were involved in money laundering. Till now 13 million $ are frozen by Swiss government, and criminal never leave any prove behind them, and no one will be able to catch them except Almighty Allah. Do you want us to believe them again?
    But we as a Nation can avoid them not to let them elect again and let them and their group not to loot the Nation again.
    Now I would like to ask GEO management, why they do not motivate the intellectuals of the nation to provide the honest leadership. Why your channels was interview only few faces always. Are they the future of Pakistan?. By name I can count those faces whom I have seen in your channel talking again and again and they never gave us the way out of this situation.
    I hope when you will be on-air again, as media you will be able to hunt the intellectuals who can lead the country towards the welfare state, not the feudal lords property.
    I wish you the best of luck.

  299. Zahid says:
    November 23rd, 2007 6:26 am

    Geo is now being singled out just like the judiciary. All the politicians seems to have agreed on putting judges issue aside and go on with elections (selection that is). No point in participating in this selection drama.

    ARY, after giving up to govt. demands, is back on air. But its showing news in a very friendly manner. Very disappointing that we have gone back 10 years both in case of Judiciary and Media.

  300. Zulfiqar Ali says:
    November 26th, 2007 11:26 am

    GEO is only tv channal in Pakistan through which all Pakistanies get to know what is happenning in politics in Pakistan from Goverment side as well as opsition side. I never believe if GEO Has ever been irresponsible by broadcasting news and other political debats GEO only brings in views or comments of our leaders, it does not buy people to give comments against the goverment its comments of pakistani leaders which they broadcast and this is tru way of serving nation. By bloking the Geo`s transmission Pakistani Goverment has suffocated the whole nation. GEO is like a faimly member to us who provide us with the news and views of Pakistani leader to understand what our leader are doing with the FATE of this nation. STRONGLY protesting to hte goverment we want Our GEO and Dr. Shahid sahib back immidiatly back who are the True Servant of Pakistani Nation.
    Thank you. Zulfiqar Ali (London)

  301. Marium Sultan says:
    November 29th, 2007 8:40 am

    Can anyone tell me when Geo will be back? Its been too long and Musharraf is not even in uniform anymore so what is holding them from bringing Geo back?

    Surely, they need every channel back well before the elections.

  302. jame says:
    December 7th, 2007 12:35 pm

    i think yah sader sahab.
    apni aap calarahay hai wo jo chahay gay wahi huga ????????? hum kat putli hai

  303. December 13th, 2007 8:08 pm

    slaam shahid bhaai hum logh aap ki batyein sunnye ko tras gye hain aap kab wapas arahye hoo!

  304. ssss says:
    December 27th, 2007 9:52 am

    plz muje koi geo dekhdo

  305. Salman Ahmed says:
    December 27th, 2007 12:10 pm

    What are you guys, Traitors to Pakistan. Instigating people to do things against our beloved country and it’s current President.
    This country educated you and brought you to this level, and you folks talk BS.
    You all instigators should be ashamed of your of yourselves.

  306. siraj ahmed khan says:
    January 1st, 2008 2:30 am

    nothing can be said in a country where these kind of things n powers are oprational
    pakistan was pakistan but now no more pakistan
    no one is safe no one is free n no one is allowed to say the truth
    the ban on GEO NEWS is no more than to forbay the truth to be open
    just to hide truth and to make the lie rule rule n rule all over pakistan
    but here i must say:
    US QOM KO SHAMSHIR KI HAJAT NAHIN REHTI
    HO JIS K JWANO MEIN KHUDI SURAT-E-FOLAD

  307. Aaj News says:
    January 15th, 2008 8:33 am

    Government wants private TV channels to be controlled by them. They want to make TV channels like PTV!

  308. Rehaan says:
    February 4th, 2008 9:40 pm
  309. Atif Qureshi says:
    February 20th, 2008 4:50 am

    I hope that now when the elections results are in, media curbs will also be lifted. We want to see our favorite anchors back on news channels.

    Aitzaz Ahsen has been freed I believe? What about judges?

  310. Zubair says:
    February 27th, 2008 1:45 am

    Hamid Mir is back on Geo Tv. Looks like media is being freed step by step. I hope Dr. Shahid Masood is allowed to do his program soon.

  311. ali says:
    March 2nd, 2008 3:14 pm

    Salaam i heard about ur news channel and virtually ur new channel is doing an exquisite job.i want to draw ur attention towards Dailywages of WASA Quetta who are being mentally tormented and living their lives in immense compulsion,including me,because i am also a laborer(dailywage).
    My name is Haider Ali.i am 22 years old and i have done my FA.because of lack of jobs as a dailywage of WASA i started my job 3 years ago.At that time our salary was only 2300 rupees which was given us after two months or three months or uncertain date.
    As a dailywages we have to work 7 hours but some times under pressure of our supervisors we have to work 9 or 10 hours a day,their is no sunday no friday,even we have to work on sunday and friday no holyday. if we remain absent only for a day,we will be kicked out of our jobs thus there is no security of our jobs..
    My whole detail ,story and request,is written below and its my extrem request to read it only for once it is too crucial….

    Distilled water is one of the important thing for our lives.In other
    countries it is the most precious thing than in pakistan.In pakistan today the most crucial thing is being sold in a very low price and the people who are responsible for water suppling (daily wages) are only paid as a salary 3000 rupees,not monthly but after two months.Some
    times they are only paid 2900 rupees after two months and some time uncertain date.No body wants to take action against this brutality and injustice even union leaders as well but one day the daily wages decided to raise their voice against this injustice they went to WASA office and met with MD WASA but in vain they were roughly told either to work quietly and tolerate the injustice or leave the job.
    Their are some rules for dailywages.If they reject any (legal or illegal)order of their supervisors or other officers of WASA they will be kicked out of their jobs.Because dailywages are compel and have no security of their jobs.and that make supervisors and other officers to take advantage of compulsion of dailywages(laborer)
    If we see as a true mumlism according to islam we will come to know the value of dialywage in Islam.it has been said.Hand over the salary (wage) of a laborer befor his sweat get dry but what about us
    Prophet Muhammad said YOu are responsible for the welfare of ur servant and slave but who is responsible for our welfare.Today virtually if we go to bazaar for buying something we will come to know that prices are touching the sky.if a dailywage of WASA goes for shoping to bazaar and he buys only floor bag with 2000 rupees,will he be able to run his whole expenses only with 1000 repees beside floor their is oil,meat, rice , bills of electricity,bills of gass,medical expenses,clothe, rent of house,educational expenses, vehicle fares,and many more expenses.is it justice with a poor laborer(daily wage)
    Today terrorism is increasing why? because of unemployment and compulsion.terrorist Organizations offer the poor person,like me,if you join us we will take responsiblity of your welfare your family welfare.and in compulsion a poor person becomes a terrorist.Should i also join the terrorist organization ?
    Today Pakistani government is blemishing India,Aganistan and extremist religion organizations that they are responsible for terrorism but i say Pakistani Government itself is making terrorists,the Government compel the poor person to be a terrorist.pakistani Governemnt might be trying to diminish poverty but in reality she is trying to remove poor.
    My other balorer friends who are working with me some of them have been working for 4 years 5 years and 6 years but they have still working as a dailywages they have not been become regular.sometime they fed up with their circumstances and become emotional and talk to commite suicide.Do a poor person deserve it ? Is it justice with a poor person ? i am not saying give us 10000 Rs or 12000 rupess i am only saying that whatever we deserve, give us,do justice. i need justice not only for me but for all laborer(dailywages) of WASA Quetta.

  312. Muhammad Mashhood Ahmed says:
    March 5th, 2008 6:34 am

    The Govt of Nawa and Benazir has come in power two time but unfortunately they didnot concentrate and attention on the development of country as practice can be seen in the govt of Ayub Khan (Industrial Revloution) and Pervez Musharaf (Karachi infrastructure, Education, IT), It is also right Musharaf Govt full of risk for sake of Islam and country properity in the name of Allah, Ameen faheem and qaim ali shah is not a person who may run the govt nor Chodhry shujaat or liaqat jitoi. here should be wellcome like a Aitezaz Ahsan who come in front line by his on arms not on behalf of others shoulder.

  313. zaheer says:
    March 19th, 2008 3:53 pm

    i just want to say that independence of media is vvv imp for any nation, but media must also be vv resposible, as media change the mood and direction of nation. The requirement is to create a hatred against people who are killing innocent people and try to save the image of our Pak Army. Standing on the wall and defend is very difficult and v easy to comment rubbish. I think death of Turkish women is important but why media ignore the death of FC soldiers and just run a slide that FC people died in an attack. Why they destroying the image of Pak Army. …. and ….. agencies may may may can use this media to weak our nation.

  314. Ahmed says:
    May 3rd, 2008 5:06 am

    The news media was not responsible. It’s as simple as that. News channels are supposed to give the facts, the hosts and interviewers are supposed to be objective and unbiased, and news coverage must always be two sided. THis is exactly what our private news channels were NOT doing. Their guests would openly speak un tactfully about the president, supporters of the Musharraf regime were never invited or atleast cut off everytime they began to defend a policy or figure and worst of all, our media comprised of mainly negative criticism which was giving a bad name and picture to the world about our country. People started making another fuss on the conditions that were layed out to the media before re-transmission, completely ignoring the FACT that all channels around the world follow some principles and rules that make them objective and ethically correct.

  315. maria says:
    May 6th, 2008 4:35 pm

    Please can you put things to do with kakra town which is in pakistan next to mirpur. I want news eople to put khabra to do with kakra town.Its were i live. Thank you.

  316. Khawaja Aleem Ahmed says:
    May 8th, 2008 3:13 am

    Highly Esteemed Sir,

    With due regards, from a credible source I have learnt about a vacancy in Accounts & Finance Department under your kind control. I am applying for the post of Accounts Executive. I am a commerce graduate and doing my MBA (Banking & Finance) final semester which is completed with in two months. I have also 5 years experienced in Accounts & Finance.

    I have worked at various levels in the Accounts & Finance department details of which are mentioned in my enclosed CV.

    If I got an opportunity to join your prestigious organization I assure you of my hard work and I will do my best to carry out my duties with interest, devotion and sincerity.

    Thank you in anticipation.

    Yours Faithfully,

    Khawaja Aleem Ahmed.

  317. May 31st, 2008 1:11 am

    Good news for Dr. Shahid Masood , he will very soon apppinted as Chairman of PTV. He deserved it.
    Congratulation him from me.

  318. Rafay Kashmiri says:
    May 31st, 2008 6:33 am

    @ Dr Shahid Massod deserves PTV, nicely said,

    I will say, ” jithon di khotti, othay an khaloti “

  319. Daktar says:
    June 4th, 2008 10:32 am

    Dr. Shahid Masood has been appointed Chairman of PTV and Murtaza Solangi head of Radio Pakistan. I have nothing against the two people but this trend personal appointments rather than institutional merit-based rise cannot be good for the institutions of Pakistan.

  320. Amjad Hussain says:
    June 18th, 2008 4:41 pm

    @Daktar and Kashmiri guy:

    Dr. Shahid did not become PTV chairman and infact his programme has once again been banned by Mush and Zaradari. Check your facts before accusing someone please! It is true that government offered him that post in order to bribe him but he refused.

    I don’t know why we start commenting on things before even verifying specially certain Kashmiri folks.

  321. Ayub says:
    July 11th, 2008 7:17 am

    it is true dr shahid masood is appointed as chairman of pakistan tv .?
    if yes,dr shahid masood loose his dignity.
    he aws ideal man.but we can,t believe it.please inform us.
    when dr was fire from ARY TV from that day we stop watching of ARY ONE WORD TV. we are waiting again for dr shahid masood.

  322. Mehreen Zubair says:
    July 11th, 2008 5:11 pm

    Here is more interesting information about Dr. Shahid’s pay package and other facilities. Wow. kaafi bara haath maara hai Dr sahab ne. I can’t say if what he did is right or wrong. Everyone has the right to take the suitable opportunity.

  323. Safdar Ali says:
    July 12th, 2008 1:31 pm

    thanks Mehreen for the link. 7 lacs per month salary with fringe benefits and extra financial benefits to be negotiated later. that is something real BIG. I mean everyone has a price after all.

    I want to be an anchor person too :P

  324. Zeeshan Syed says:
    July 18th, 2008 11:39 am

    Well, it IS true that he has been hired the chairman of PTV. This shows that he was working for political forces. The man has little or no background when it comes to journalism and is now sitting on the top seat of sarkari tv. WELL DONE!

    “Flattering will get (Shahid Masood) everywhere”

  325. Dr. Shahid Masood Supporter says:
    July 23rd, 2008 4:48 pm

    This one sided propaganda against Dr Shahid is not fair. Why not listen to what he has to say about this? May be he is gone for good and PTV get better because of his leadership. I think he was becoming cause of too many problems for Geo so it was wise of him to get out and do something more useful and productive.

    As far as salary etc are concerned. Chairman/MD PTV is a very senior designation so what’s wrong if he is getting handsomely paid? Every Chairman/MD gets the same.

    All these comments seems to be coming more out of jealousy than any logic. Same old Pakistani mentality, why is getting more and I am not. Grow up people!!

  326. jeelani says:
    August 7th, 2008 6:55 am

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  327. Abbas Ali Shah says:
    September 28th, 2008 6:40 am

    Check this out friends. Dr. Shahid Masood doing Ji Huzuri of embarrassing Zardari. What a shame!!

  328. Ajmal Mian says:
    October 27th, 2008 7:14 am

    Shahid Masood turned out to be just another fraud just like we are witnessing Aitzaz Ahsen now. Aitzaz Ahsen has been the biggest disappointment in recent Pakistani history.

  329. Salman Haq says:
    October 31st, 2008 3:57 pm

    looks like Dr. Shahid Masood is in trouble now. there have been too many questions about why he has been offered share in PTV’s profits apart from his salary. Media reports are suggesting that he had a heated argument exchange with Sherry Rehman last week. he might get what he deserves within a month or so.

  330. Salman Haq says:
    November 3rd, 2008 2:39 pm

    Dr. Shahid Masood resigns from PTV and appointed special adviser to Prime Minister Gilani. I feel sorry for the man. I think he will be kicked out from this position too. Details here, and here

  331. Salman Haq says:
    November 3rd, 2008 2:41 pm
  332. November 4th, 2008 11:22 am

    At least he tried to change things at PTV. I heard there has been billions of rupees corruption which has been caught in audit. I don’t know why this forum is so against Dr. Shahid.

    What else you guys wanted him to do?

  333. Mustafa Hamdani says:
    November 8th, 2008 4:21 am

    Geo should take Dr. Shahid Masood back. I miss his brilliant analysis of politics. Has he really accepted the offer to become PM’s special adviser?

  334. Zafar Ahmed says:
    November 10th, 2008 1:26 pm

    Dr. Shahid resigns from PTV Chairman!!. Details here

  335. Zafar Ahmed says:
    November 10th, 2008 1:31 pm

    Dr Masood was reported to be told the corporations

  336. Mudassir says:
    November 13th, 2008 2:15 pm

    Shahid is an opportunist. He knows how to play his cards well that’s why just in few years time out of nowhere, he is now sitting on top most government positions which many people dream for decades. That’s what I call a smart and intelligent man. Who cares what others think.

  337. Ajmal Hussain says:
    November 18th, 2008 10:17 am

    Geo and ARY were blocked by MQM again in Sindh yesterday. How could this happen in so called democratic government?? I am hearing that it has something to do with these channels exposing that clown and self proclaimed second best mayor of the world Ata Turk Mustafa Kamal.

  338. Ahmed says:
    December 5th, 2009 11:20 am

    Media should not be restricted but they have to know their limits.

    http://www.pakmoz.com

  339. jawad says:
    January 24th, 2010 3:03 am

    i have a news about gulfishan police jahng road . we arrest 3 dakat [theif] last week . 1 of them ran away . we give two dakait to police of gulfishan choki but they still cant find the third one while in this area stealing is increasing day by day. i shall be thankful to you if you take attention to this cotest. my contact number is 03216664679.

  340. ali says:
    January 24th, 2010 8:44 am

    i know its bit late but the issue is resolved :)

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  342. July 2nd, 2011 6:08 am

    let them try there best but will never succeed and free media is the key of success

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