Custom Search

Facebook Fiasco: What Would Muhammad (PBUH) Do?

Posted on May 19, 2010
Filed Under >Adil Najam, Media Matters, Society
310 Comments
Total Views: 50730

Share

Adil Najam

This is a painful post to write.

Ideally I would have preferred not to have had to write this post. But I have over 300 messages in my in-box of people fussing over the so-called “Draw Muhammad Day” page on the social networking site Facebook and now the Lahore High Court’s decision calling for a ban on Facebook has forced the issue. And that is what pains me.

I hope that Facebook administration will remove the page. Not because of any “banning” movement and not because of the Lahore High Court. Just because the page and the idea behind the page is inflammatory and offensive. Regardless of what your belief or religion might be, to throw out offensive and hateful vitriolic for the simple and primary purpose of hurting someone else’s feelings – when you know that (a) those feelings will be hurt and (b) when hurting those feelings is really the only purpose of doing what you are doing – is inhuman, cruel, and clearly offensive. If Facebook does not recognize that, then it knows nothing either about “social” or about “networking” and certainly not about “community.”

But at one level, that matters little now. Whether Facebook removes the offensive page or not. The page and its creators have already fulfilled their purpose, met their goals. And it is we ourselves who have helped them do so. And that is what pains me.



I have not visited the offensive page in question and do not intend to. I had also not intended to help publicizing that offensive page, but by having to write this post that is exactly what I am doing. And that pains me. I am offended by the idea that page purports and the goals it seeks to achieve. So, why should I dignify it by a visit? Why should I publicize it? Why should I give it the attention it was created to seek. Yet, all of us (now me included, which is why writing this is uncomfortable) are doing exactly that.And that is what pains me.

Many of the emails I have received give me the link to that page and invite me to visit it so that ‘I can see for myself how offensive it is.’ I do not need to do that. Yet, that is exactly what we have been doing. We have been acting exactly as the creators of that page intended us to. Acting as the promoters and publicists of that page. And now having turned it into an international legal matter giving the attention seekers behind the page the exact thing they wanted: Attention.

But we have done more than that. With the Lahore High Court decision we have allowed the PTA and authorities another precedent and excuse to aggressively “manage” the internet; something that can and will be misused in the future.

I have not been receiving emails from the proponents of that page. The only ones who seem to be noticing us is us Muslims (and for some reason Pakistani Muslims more than any other). If we too had ignored the offensive page – as it deserves to be ignored – it would have gone the exact same way to oblivion as thousands of other sophomoric attempts at cheap attention seeking on the Internet. Instead we have now turned it into an international incident and given it far more limelight than it ever deserved.

Let’s think about it, what did the creators of the offensive page want to do when they set it up? First, they sought attention, and hits, and notoriety in a world where attention is too easily confused with fame. Second, they wanted to ridicule Muslims by the reaction they excepted from this. If you think of it, irrespective of whether Facebook removes the site or keeps it, the organizers of the page have achieved their goal. Well beyond what they expected. Now every other Islamophobic nutcase will get new ideas about how to have his little 10 minutes of fame spewing bigotry and hatred against Muslims.

But more importantly, they simply could not have done this without us. The only people who have turned this from nothingness into a huge issue is us. I am sure that those who set up the page are jumping up and down and thanking us for making their page such a huge success! And that is what pains me.

I am also pained by the sacrilege of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) that this entire drama signifies. As pained as anyone else, and as pained as I would have been at the sacrilege of any other Prophet or religion. But unlike for many others, that pain is neither reduced nor resolved by protesting against Facebook. For me, the antidote to that pain is in the teaching of the Prophet (PBUH) themselves. What would the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) have done in such a situation.

The one thing I am absolutely positive of, is that the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) would not have done what we are doing now: making an international public spectacle of ourselves. Most likely he would have just walked away and ignored (the ‘look the other way when someone throws garbage at you’ model), he might have negotiated with Facebook on the basis of their own stated rules (the Hudabia model), he might have reasoned with detractors (the discourse and discussion model). Nearly certainly Muhammad (PBUH) would have handled it with grace, with composure, and maybe even with a touch of good humor. Most importantly, the Prophet (PBUH) would have kept focusing on his own actions and proving his point with his own deeds rather than with slogans, banners and naara-baazi.

310 Comments on “Facebook Fiasco: What Would Muhammad (PBUH) Do?”

  1. May 19th, 2010 10:19 am

    I actually agree with you. Blocking Facebook and spreading hatred isn’t what Mohammad (S.A.W.) himself would have done.

    It’s just better not to boycott. But as it is now, we don’t have a choice since PTA blocked Facebook. :/

    I’ve posted about this in detail on: http://artsyhands.com/2010/05/20th-may-draw-mohammad-day-and-facebook-boycotts/

  2. Fatima says:
    May 19th, 2010 10:21 am

    Lone voice of sanity…. I agree 100%

  3. Omar Chaudhry says:
    May 19th, 2010 10:26 am

    I have my disagreements with Dr. Najm, but on this one, I have to agree 100%. I really wish those of us muslims who get outraged in the name of the honor of our Prophet (SAW) would care to also follow in his footsteps as well. I congratulate you for a very good and spot on analysis and opinion.

  4. ModerateMuslim says:
    May 19th, 2010 10:31 am

    Mr. Adil Najam its a typical response who lives in the west and proud calls himself a Muslim. We have had enough this attitude and for GOD’s sake understand you religion and what it demands from you.

  5. Amena says:
    May 19th, 2010 10:41 am

    well said Dr Najam ..its true that our beloved prophet hated angry responses ..He said “God is gentle and loves gentleness” and “Verily, God is mild, and is fond of mildness, and he gives to the mild what he does not to the harsh.” And “No person hath drunk a better draught than that of anger which he has swallowed for God’s sake.” And “’Give me advice,’ said someone. Prophet Muhammad( PBUH) said, ‘Be not angry.’ And another one”He is not strong and powerful who throweth people down; but he is strong who witholdeth himself from anger

  6. Faria says:
    May 19th, 2010 10:48 am

    On April 25, Norris wrote on her website that the response to her idea had surprised and shocked her: “I did not intend for my cartoon to go viral. I did not intend to be the focus of any ‘group’. I practice the First Amendment by drawing what I wish. This particular cartoon of a ‘poster’ seems to have struck a gigantic nerve, something I was totally unprepared for. I am going back to the drawing table now!” On April 26, she wrote on her website: “I am NOT involved in “Everybody Draw Mohammd Day! I made a cartoon that went viral and I am not going with it. Many other folks have used my cartoon to start sites, etc. Please go to them as I am a private person who draws stuff”. She also asked Savage to replace the original illustration she had given him with another one she drew that was tamer, but Savage refused. Asked why she initially publicized it, she replied, “Because I’m an idiot.”

    Norris said the campaign had grown much bigger than she initially intended, and that her cartoon was being used in ways she couldn’t control. “I just want to go back to my quiet life”, she told the writer of a blog about comics at The Washington Post. Wellington announced on April 26 that he, too, was dropping out of the movement. “I am aghast that so many people are posting deeply offensive pictures of the Prophet,” he wrote. “Y’all go ahead if that’s your bag, but count me out.” Norris acknowledged, “I said that I wanted to counter fear and then I got afraid.” On April 29, Norris suggested that “Everybody Draw Mohammed Day” be called off: “Let’s call off ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’ by changing it to ‘Everybody Draw Al Gore Day’ instead. Enough Mohammed drawings have already been made to get the point across. At this juncture, such drawings are only hurtful to more liberal and moderate Muslims who have not done anything to endanger our first amendment rights.” On May 1, Norris posted a marked up version of her original cartoon, apologizing to Muslims.

  7. May 19th, 2010 10:49 am

    Finally I find a sane man in this country. Well done Mr. Adil Najam.

  8. May 19th, 2010 10:54 am

    If only all of us thought in the same manner Adil. Bravo. This blogpost much needed!

  9. smssr84 says:
    May 19th, 2010 10:56 am

    @ Moderate Muslim:
    Prophet (P.BU.H) and Allah thought us Muslims to practice tolerance & patience! and use the power of dua!! we as Muslims….. cant even follow such basic principles! … it hurts!! Just remember the incident of Ta’if!!

    Adil Najam: Thankyou for bringing this us……. its nice to see some sanity finally somewhere.

  10. M says:
    May 19th, 2010 11:00 am

    I think people drawing pictures of Muhammad might actually help us understand how people feel about us. Can’t it be used as a tool to communicate where language fails? Of course we may not agree with them but in the end we’re all entitled to our opinions and our right of expression.

  11. May 19th, 2010 11:25 am

    Refer to my post here.. “Ridicule, Protests & Our Self-Respect ” http://rumaisamohani.blogspot.com/2010/05/ridicule-protests-self-respect.html
    Khudi or “Self Respect” is the answer to any such situation for present day Muslims. When we respect ourselves, no one can berate and ridicule us.. We have a lot to respect about ourselves. Thats what our enemies want us to ignore.

  12. Actually says:
    May 19th, 2010 11:27 am

    We (Pakistani citizens) have got to look beyond the Facebook ban. Actually, it’s first in the series of dominoes to fall. And what dominoes am I speaking of?

    I am referring to the dangerous hold of extremism on the society and what the extremists are poised to do.

    All it takes is for one made-up group, “Islamic Lawyers Movement”, to petition the court and the court slaps an unreasonable ban without any consultation with the larger public or its representatives. On the one hand it shows how regressive the legal system is (in terms of how it works), and on the other hand, it shows how a group of people can seize the freedom of millions others. THIS is the real issue to be concerned about at the moment. How deep has unreasonableness seeped into the society? What are we going to witness next?

    As for Facebook, it *also* tolerates terrorists like Zaid Zaman Hamid whose page and whose parody page, both, have been taken down and re-instated several times. Finally, Facebook has stopped taking notice.

  13. saba says:
    May 19th, 2010 11:30 am

    Tolerance!! blocking access to facebook and sending thousands of messages regarding that page has only given more publicity to it. I completely agree with the stance. blocking facebook for a few days in a country like pakistan will onli hav a meagre impact on its revenue, so whats the point of doing it..

  14. mike says:
    May 19th, 2010 11:55 am

    As an observer from the West, I would like to congratulate Dr Najm for his incisive analysis. Far too often, Muslims look to the West like angry wild children for their reactions to things that maturity would suggest be ignored. Pakistan, unfortunately, stands alone as the most extreme. Sane people in Pakistan must take the country back before the West is forced to destroys it, or the fanatics enslave you.

  15. Sajjad says:
    May 19th, 2010 11:59 am

    Things were going fine, we could have protested the way things happen on facebook but banning website in a region is just ridiculous . Simple, An Electronic event should be responded and protested electronically not on streets.

  16. faran says:
    May 19th, 2010 12:11 pm

    the thing is we (the Muslims) don’t understand. Our prophet (SAW) blessed his enemies, He prayed for those who threw stones at Him, He took care of the women who would throw trash on Him. The best way to tackle such a situation in light of Prophet’s teachings was that we say to such offenders very peacefully that God may guide you to and you may realize that offending others is bad and thats it no need of violence no need of abusing people, can’t we just do things the way He (SAW) wanted us to do.

  17. Nihair says:
    May 19th, 2010 12:25 pm

    Excellent post Adil

    When dante wrote Divine comedy and showed Mohammad in hell, it was just a reflection of the western mind. When somebody is agianst you, they will do anything to try to agitate you…Dont play in their hands….Mohammad lives in out heart….His biggest miracle is us…and how good and kind we are…Pls dont disrespect this miracle by playing in their hands. Let the Dantes and Rushdies live and enjoy their own hell…Let all of us be true muslim and make this world a better place for every human being…This is our best revenge

  18. Rashid says:
    May 19th, 2010 12:48 pm

    In February 2006 after publication of Danish cartoons of the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAWS, I was at a debate, in Philadelphia. The way I handled it you can see it on following link:
    At a debate in USA
    By Rashid Jahangiri, M.D.
    http://ahmadiyya.org/uk/light-jun06.pdf

  19. Syed Abrar says:
    May 19th, 2010 1:01 pm

    excellent post Dr. Najam. You have said so eloquently what so many Pakistanis and Muslims feel.

    This whole protest thing is more of a Jamaati fitna than anything else.

    You ask the right question: What would the Prophet (SAW) have done. His path was always the path of tolerance.

  20. Azeema says:
    May 19th, 2010 1:17 pm

    Thanks for the post….

  21. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 19th, 2010 1:17 pm

    Irony is, most of the “protesters” are burger kids who have been using abusive language to show their “love” for the Prophet(saw). Those Scandinavian people are still non-Muslims hence they can do whatever they want but what about those who seek excuses in Islam yet they ridicule Islam and Sunnah of Prophet? For me those “Muslims” re damnable than non-Muslims.

  22. HMD says:
    May 19th, 2010 1:39 pm

    I share you pain Adil.

    It is painful and shameful to see otherwise reasonable people from your country jumping up and down like rabid baboons over something so silly. It does not take any clairvoyance to see that a few poor fools in Pakistan will lose their lives in violent protests over the next couple of days.
    The “blasphemy” conditioning that Pakistanis have received over several decades is really potent. No one else in the entire Islamic world seems concerned about stupid cartoons or facebook pages. Yet the brain washed masses in Pakistan don’t seem to run out of excuses to get offended.

  23. Armi says:
    May 19th, 2010 1:44 pm

    Why do us Pakistanis have to be so sensitive over some idiot’s attempt at notorious fame.
    We wear our hearts on our sleeves. How about giving that beggar at the signal a few measly rupees.Make his day.
    Maybe that’ll take care of our ultra-sensibility to perceived injustices being done to the Musalman.
    If there is such a page and someone informs you, plainly ask the person not to visit it.

  24. Salman says:
    May 19th, 2010 1:59 pm

    nobody knew about that Danish newspaper until it was muslims who marketed it..

    and nobody gave a damn about this page until “Pakistan” banned facebook.. now its on EVERY news network all over the world.. and the page has seen a sudden surge in membership..

    This is not painful.. this is funny now..

    ——

    btw.. I slightly disagree with the author’s question.. Asking the question is tantamount to questioning the religious basis for the Blasphemy law..

    If we HAVE a religious basis for the Blasphemy law in Pakistan I don’t think we should question the court’s decision..

  25. Faraz says:
    May 19th, 2010 2:02 pm

    Well said, Sir!

    I share your pain too!

  26. Ali Zaidi says:
    May 19th, 2010 2:05 pm

    “Could this be the spark that wakes us up?”

    His very wishful whisper echoes back at him, off the walls of the dark, dark cave… almost in ridicule… as he watches the masses turning over in their indulgent, never-ending sleep… in the dying glow of what was only a fading spark.

    Yawning, tired of his hopeless optimism, he settles in to join them.

  27. Lavinia says:
    May 19th, 2010 2:08 pm

    As a European person who loves Pakistani people, I am sorry so many have been offended. However, as a person who values freedom of expression, especially in the internet, I think your conclusions are excellent and show great maturity and wisdom. Well done.

  28. DARWEESH says:
    May 19th, 2010 2:09 pm

    Excellent,well said,Shabash Adil Najam.
    DIL MADINA BANA LIYA HAM NE
    UN KO DIL MEiN BASA LIYA HAM NE

  29. Farhan Zia says:
    May 19th, 2010 2:11 pm

    Well, I can understand your point but I would not completely agree with it. If this huge protest can force facebook to turn down or block that page, do you still think the organizers of this page can get the attention they are looking for? No, I think. They will be blocked and insulted for what they have done. Don’t you think that way?

  30. sumaiyya says:
    May 19th, 2010 2:15 pm

    I too agree with your opinion on this issue , it sound logical and balanced.

  31. May 19th, 2010 2:15 pm

    Well written Dr. Adil Najam. I share your pain too.
    We are not well oriented still, spending our precious time on these kind of fuss that will grow more in days to come.
    I think, if its the chosen path, Muslim governments should also ban common sense too!

    I was perturbed by all such events and remembered well when we burnt banks and vehicles in Lahore after a Danish Cartoon Controversy. I think the loss incurred at that time was to not anyone else but to our own people.
    We,once banned a telecom giant too, which is now a major player in the telecom market. We, in fact gave the brand recognition/establishment, by banning them out.
    We killed people like Hakim Saeed, too, about which I think eevn Pakistaniat.com has never written a thing. maybe Edhi will also find same fate from this honoring nation someday.

    What I think is, best way to cope with an enemy is to Learn from enemy and then earn from it. I read about Prophet Muhammad PBUH from the writings of the Ralph waldo Emerson too, and such were the people who laid down the foundations of now world’s( most hated, as usually quoted) country, the USA. They learnt the lessons and strategies more well than us. We still lag behind because we wanted to!

    May Allah blesses us all, and help us following the guidance of the Last Prophet Muhammad PBUH.

    Its not about moderation ( a highly misused term), Its about common sense, logic and strategic playing.

    PS: If anyone wants and can, do read Mukhtar Masood and Dr. Muhammad Hameedullah!

  32. Shahzaib Quraishi says:
    May 19th, 2010 2:31 pm

    What irks me to no end is when people join groups like “Ban so-and-so page” or “delete [insert sacrilegious/blasphemous comment] group” without actually ever taking the time to see if that page actually exists or not. More often than not, that page has already been deleted, but people keep inviting you to these groups, which in turn publicize the banned group even more.

  33. zealot says:
    May 19th, 2010 2:33 pm

    what would have we done if the same have been said/done about our parents (please no offence).

  34. Aamir Ali says:
    May 19th, 2010 2:35 pm

    Another example of how emotional and dumb today’s Pakistanis are. This boycott will only give publicity to Facebook and make them into “heroes of freedom”.

  35. Charakan says:
    May 19th, 2010 2:43 pm

    Good post. Still I thought some one will be bold enough to tell that Quran did not ban drawings of Prophet.The Quran forbids idolatry, but does not specifically ban drawing of the Prophet.
    Hadith says ‘All the painters who make pictures would be in the fire of Hell’ not the viewers. So why there should be an out cry?

  36. Eidee Man says:
    May 19th, 2010 2:48 pm

    Brilliant.

    “So, why should I dignify it by a visit? Why should I publicize it? Why should I give it the attention it was created to seek”

    My thoughts exactly.

  37. Omer says:
    May 19th, 2010 2:52 pm

    Agreed!

  38. sadi says:
    May 19th, 2010 3:00 pm

    Thanks for this rational piece…Dr Najam.

    Muslims are good at turning complete racist/ignorants into heroes. I wouldn’t be surprised if he hits headlines soon.

  39. amad says:
    May 19th, 2010 3:09 pm

    When will we learn :(

    Married couples know that the worst thing that your partner can do during a fight is to stay silent. I believe there is some application of the same psychology in this case. It will make the instigators appear as fools, when no Muslims takes them up on their “mission.” And so this may actually help prevent a repetition in the future. As minorities living in a countries whose laws we have to stay within, our goal should be to break the script, to say what needs to be said, forcefully and politely. And sometimes, as in this case, not to say anything at all. Or consider other strategic options. Perhaps use interfaith opportunities to express disappointment over the depiction of all Prophets, like Moses and Jesus, peace be upon them, a sensibility shared by other faiths.

    The script over and over again… and we fall for it each time, as if we didn’t see it coming:

    http://muslimmatters.org/2010/04/26/south-park-episode-censorship-of-mohammeds-s-depiction-the-script-played-to-perfection/

  40. Qausain says:
    May 19th, 2010 3:12 pm

    totally agree with Najam Bhai
    lakin ye aik or painful SMS parhain, abhi abhi aya hey :P
    .
    ” Guys one thing observed is that most of us only focusing on Facebook to boycott for the sake of Prophet Mhuammad (PBUH), actually there also many sites which are uploading materials for discouraging Muslims .. Youtube, twitter, hi5 and number of other sites also contain material regarding Mohammad day. Also boycott them plz until those sites concerning people remove them… Try to get my point fellows !! ”
    .
    .
    :D
    ye hamarey **Musalman** bhai Porn sites n pornography k khilaf SMS/E-mail campaign kion nahi chaltey … ager ye campaign chalain to PTA lazmi band kar dey :D

  41. May 19th, 2010 3:36 pm

    وَقَدْ نَزَّلَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِي الْكِتَابِ أَنْ إِذَا سَمِعْتُمْ آيَاتِ اللَّهِ يُكْفَرُ بِهَا وَيُسْتَهْزَأُ بِهَا فَلَا تَقْعُدُوا مَعَهُمْ حَتَّىٰ يَخُوضُوا فِي حَدِيثٍ غَيْرِهِ ۚ إِنَّكُمْ إِذًا مِثْلُهُمْ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ جَامِعُ الْمُنَافِقِينَ وَالْكَافِرِينَ فِي جَهَنَّمَ جَمِيعًا
    And indeed He has revealed to you in the Book that when you hear Allah’s communications disbelieved in and mocked at do not sit with them until they enter into some other discourse; surely then you would be like them; surely Allah will gather together the hypocrites and the unbelievers all in hell.
    (Surah An Nisa 4:140)

  42. Aliya says:
    May 19th, 2010 3:41 pm

    Excellent post. Prof. Najam.

    You have spoken for true Muslims and sane Pakistanis everywhere.

    It is only the fanatics and religious parties who are trying to stir up trouble for their support. If you ignore these people they will also go away just as if you ignore these ignorant and offensive facebook pages, they will also go away.

  43. Salman says:
    May 19th, 2010 3:43 pm

    what is “painful” about that message ?

    the fact that this is such a sensitive issue that the authorities will ACTUALLY ban youtube, twitter, hi5 and all others ??

    they really will.. its only a matter of bringing their attention to it..

    I think we should speak against this attitude of our “authorities” as well…

    even in the article, Adil Najam has only pointed at “we” ..

    when the actual “we” who are involved in this have solid backing of religious scripture to support their actions..

    “we” ARE supposed to kill anyone who utters blasphemy.. so what exactly is being questioned or regretted ??

  44. moeen says:
    May 19th, 2010 3:46 pm

    I’m not sure Adil why have you been in pain? Its a free world. A sacred person for you might not be sacred for others. Live with this fact and welcome to the world:)

  45. Anne Marie says:
    May 19th, 2010 3:55 pm

    Congratulations for an excellent analysis and post. I wish such ideas were present in my fellow Americans too. Yours is a voice of sanity in an insane world. And you speak with the voice of humanity. Thank you for these words and the passion and conviction you have spoken with.

    Hurting someone for the sake of wanting to hurt someone is not what freedom is about.

    The desire to be respected must start with the practice of respecting others.

    Thank you again for this. I have just forwarded this to all my friends.

  46. Raza says:
    May 19th, 2010 4:06 pm

    While I share Adil’s thoughts to the extent that we should not make a “tamasha” out of this situation….I believe that this, just as all other inflammatory, hateful, and offensive acts, should be criticized and protested against albeit civilly…ignoring any hateful or offensive act is also wrong. While humans are still far away from utopia, the little progress we have made was not made by ignoring cruelty, hatred, or injustice, but by recognizing and acting against it.

    So my suggestion is that we should denounce both the facebook page and the lopsided response to it. Furthermore, we should convey our feeling and thoughts to the facebook administration and persuade them to remove this page.

  47. May 19th, 2010 4:07 pm

    Great post. I’ve posted the very similiar concept on my site also. Thanks to the author for putting light on this confusion in a brief way…

    Thanks.

  48. dr parvez says:
    May 19th, 2010 4:18 pm

    well i dont understand one thing.why has facebook allowed such a competition.it is quite obiviously offensive.if muslims react by being angry with it it is quite understandable.it seems to poke fun at all that is islamic has become a routine for some people in the west.there is a limit to everything even freedom of expression which unfortunately the present democratic world does not recognise.Only those who do not understand the importance of negation of idol worship in islam will be at ease with this propaganda.I donot know the exact way how to counter this malicious compaign on internet but facebook has to be responsible for allowing such a compaign to run ont it.it is to be condemned.if muslims need a social networking website let them start a new one of their own so that we do not need such websites at all.

  49. Ch. Aslam says:
    May 19th, 2010 4:25 pm

    Beautiful post and right on.

    You ask the exact right question, and you give the exact right answer:
    “Nearly certainly Muhammad (PBUH) would have handled it with grace, with composure, and maybe even with a touch of good humor.”

  50. Greywolf says:
    May 19th, 2010 4:30 pm

    Here is an update…. Mobilink has discontinued Blackberry Services altogether to discontinue Facebook for Blackberry application.

    We go from absurd … to absurder.

    All because the 1973 constitution is a draconian restrictive document which only promises tyranny and no real fundamental rights.

  51. Fran says:
    May 19th, 2010 4:31 pm

    To the eye of the rest of the world, the maturity level of Pakistani Muslims appears to be arrested at about 12 years old. Pakistan has become an embarassment to Allah. Shame on those of us who allow the fanatics to continue to humilate our religion before the world!

  52. Majnoo says:
    May 19th, 2010 5:32 pm

    It is quite painful indeed to see our Prophet (PBUH) ridiculed, it is also painful to see the reaction some Muslims (as you suggested mostly Pakistani) show at these instances. It is akin to barking at a rabid dog, you just do not go dopwn to their level. Silence can speak volumes. I agree that it should be protested, but silence can marginalize these hate mongers. It goes both ways, the screaming ‘mullahs’ can be ignored as well, as long as either side does nto become violence. The reason I protest is to show the dual standards that some in the media have. They (the cartoonist) can make fun of the Prophet(PBUH), but I dare them to make fun of the Holocaust, see how long their ‘pages’ or websites survive. Not that it should be made fun of, it was a horrendous event & should be rightfully condemend by all humanity.

  53. Omer says:
    May 19th, 2010 5:50 pm

    O Bhai log,

    Let’s ban google as well. And open islamigoogle.com and islamifacebook.com where we willbe free to discuss how to deal with yahood o hanood o nasara…

  54. Anwer says:
    May 19th, 2010 5:50 pm

    Very well written. Thanks.

  55. Allison says:
    May 19th, 2010 5:56 pm

    First, let me say that I am myself disappointed in Facebook for this. This is clearly a violation of their own policies and is really hate speech which should not be encouraged.

    But more than that, I am delighted to read the excellent argument by the author and the reasoned and reasonable way it is presented. And even more happy to see so many comments and most of them taking a similarly reasonable and reasoned position on this. Unfortunately, in all of our societies it is only those on the extremes that get the attention.

    Thank you for this, reading this and the comments was reassuring and made me feel better about our common futures.

  56. MQ says:
    May 19th, 2010 6:33 pm

    Adil, to the question you have posed in the title of the post, my answer is the same that I wrote in 2006 in the Times, when the Danish Cartoons controversy was at its height:

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990DE6DC143EF93BA35751C0A9609C8B63&scp=2&sq=aziz%20akhmad&st=cse

  57. usman says:
    May 19th, 2010 7:21 pm

    if sum shop keeper make fun of ma father . ill never buy any thing from him even i gt that thing cheaply . hw can v forgive or ignore such persons or groups who disrespect our prophet who is a million times more respectful 4 us thn our father … i knw tht blocking fb will make no difrence bt atlst v shud show our feelings by like strike or boycott 4 one day etc so tht the custodian of human rights and feedom of speech may make sum rule to stop tht abusiveness of sacred personalities , sacred places nd sacred events . eg y nt they tawk abt holocaust ?

  58. Deeda-e-Beena says:
    May 19th, 2010 7:27 pm

    READ: ” THE 100″

    The 1978 Published Book by MICHAEL H. HART. Revised
    and Updated 1992.

    It is the Ranking of the 100 Most Influential Persons in Human History. AND Muhammad saw is the First.

    Need one say more?

  59. Mike says:
    May 19th, 2010 8:04 pm

    “I have not visited the offensive page in question and do not intend to”

    However you call it “offensive page”. WOW

  60. Aziz says:
    May 19th, 2010 8:30 pm

    As a muslim, I am told that I cannot create any image of Prophet PBUH. To that point, I am ok. I understand why this restriction was placed. However, I do not have any problems with Facebook or any Danish guy trying to create his image. It does not bother me. It does not make me any worse Muslim, nor does it affect my spiritual or physical life in any way. Best thing is to walk past it and forget about it.

    This comment may offend a few but as the author said, ignore it just like our beloved Prophet PBUH used to. No harm done.

  61. libertarian says:
    May 19th, 2010 8:40 pm

    Interesting that Pakistan and Pakistanis seems the most worked-up about these issues. Kinda harks back to an Egyptian’s comment that many Pakistanis behave like Islam was invented (by them) in 1947.

  62. May 19th, 2010 9:17 pm

    Very well written blog post. These are exactly my thoughts, can we please just ignore it.

  63. Nazish says:
    May 19th, 2010 9:32 pm

    I think it is our right as a muslim to show our disgust and justified anger at this incident. It calls for attention, why shouldnt we complain? why shouldnt we draw attention to an attempt designed to disrespect our believes. We too, are users of facebook, we too have an opinion and a right to express.
    Hum bhi moonh main zuban rakhtay hain.
    Dont go over board, dont make threats but by all means request, complain and make as much noise as you can to draw attention to this debacle and get facebook administration to get rid of this group.

  64. Fareedi says:
    May 19th, 2010 10:17 pm

    Have patience. All things are difficult before they become easy.
    Saadi

    Chaos is inherent in all compounded things. Strive on with diligence.
    Buddha

  65. Rashid Ali says:
    May 19th, 2010 11:45 pm

    Adil, a very balanced write up. Exactly how I felt. We made Salman Rushdy a millionaire by giving him unlimited advertisement. Pakistani nation and Muslims of India have been one of the most pan Islamic group in their vision. But lately this pan Islamism has been converted into tools of protests. We protest by shouting more than any other Muslim nation and act destructively to the detrement of our society.

  66. Ari says:
    May 19th, 2010 11:52 pm

    What Muslims fail to realise is that ultimately they have no one to blame but themselves. Hindus, Christians, Jews and Buddhists do not protest, riot, threaten and scream over pictures and cartoons. Muslims need a dignified understanding of what freedom of speech means, and whether or not you agree or disagree with something does not change the fact that greater society does not have to follow your own religious rules.

    Muslims must understand that resolving problems by screaming and throwing tantrums is not an appropriate solution for “enlightened” people; it only represents the embarrassing reality of what Islam represents itself as today; and no one but Muslims themselves are to blame for this. Civilised society has grown restless at the fact that Muslims have a different way of solving their problems, it is not through intelligence or dialogue but through throwing tantrums and screaming loudest – this road does not yield results.

  67. khadija says:
    May 20th, 2010 12:01 am

    So I asked a friend what she thought about this article and she said:

    S says:
    *okay claim 1) that by telling other ppl to ban the page we sort of promote them
    S says:
    *well one, as they say, no publicity is bad publicity
    *and number two, its called the streisand effect
    S says:
    *ppl say just ignore it theyll dwinadling dwn
    *honestly, if were standing in front of Allah and He asked that you knew someone was going to insult my prophet yet you did nothing
    S says:
    *rather i think we should fight back, even if it provokes them furthur simple because we have to show ppl this isnt worth taking lightly
    *if we ignored it, then it will become just like what isa alahis salam has become
    S says:
    *where ppl make fun of him and use him constatly in their media etc. for jokes etc
    *not to insult chrisitans but just because hes a famous figure who is not off bounds
    K says:
    *YES!
    *exactly
    S says:
    *to be honest, everyone shold boycott facebook forever
    *or at least for longer than one day
    K says:
    *im goign to post this convo on the comment section
    K says:
    *in the article

    When shame is gone, no disrespects seems bad enough.

  68. Naseer says:
    May 20th, 2010 12:27 am

    Absolutely brilliant.

    Love this part, can we somehow get the FB people to read this:

    “Regardless of what your belief or religion might be, to throw out offensive and hateful vitriolic for the simple and primary purpose of hurting someone else’s feelings – when you know that (a) those feelings will be hurt and (b) when hurting those feelings is really the only purpose of doing what you are doing – is inhuman, cruel, and clearly offensive. If Facebook does not recognize that, then it knows nothing either about “social” or about “networking” and certainly not about “community.””

  69. May 20th, 2010 12:40 am

    I truly don’t care whether someone draws Mohammad. What I can’t fathom is why the Lahore High Court ordered the Department of Communications to block Facebook through the end of May.

    Is this what it has come to? Are Pakistanis so volatile that they cannot be trusted to trusted to maintain their composure through something as inane as a Facebook group? It is sad that we allow the government to encroach on our access to information. First YouTube, now Facebook. What’s next?

  70. Aaron T. says:
    May 20th, 2010 12:42 am

    Powerful ideas here.

    I am heartened to read your take on this. Bigots are everywhere and we have plenty in the US too who try to spread hatred. The only way to deal with them is to ignore them and not to encourage them by giving them more importance than they deserve.

  71. Yasmeen Aslam says:
    May 20th, 2010 12:50 am

    A very sane and sensible post. Thank you for writing it and saying what so many of us are feeling.

    It is sad that a very small minority of haters in the West can create these things and an even smaller minority of extremists in our country react to it and these two minorities then hold all the rest of us as hostage in their hate.

  72. Anita says:
    May 20th, 2010 12:55 am

    Adil sb
    I think facebook administration must have some policy about such pages esp.in the present circumtances of already hatred for the west.This type of inflammatory things lead to anger and anger leads to violence.On one side we r trying to stop violence and on the other side promoting it.We should protest against it.

  73. Qazi Atiq says:
    May 20th, 2010 12:59 am

    Very well said, my feelings exactly. I don’t usually comment (A silent reader) but went through the same feeling of having to write about it when I was ignoring it completely
    :(

  74. l. says:
    May 20th, 2010 1:01 am

    I’d hazard a guess that Mohammed wouldn’t go around displaying hopping-mad anger and losing his dignity, like Yosemite Sam with steam coming out of his ears, over such small potatoes as a few bloggers in the Western world, known for its freedom of expressing even the most obnoxious statements and ideas, throwing a few insults his way.

    Secondly, I think the whole “draw Mohammed” idea is taking off more than it originally would have due to the physical attack on Lars Vilks during his recent appearance. Maybe there are some who feel that he personally, as well as his right to express himself, however obnoxiously, are in need of some backup and support and protection as a defensive reaction to this kind of attack.

    Personally, I’m pretty courteous and wouldn’t display insulting pictures on a blog of my own, but I’m not going to get bent out of shape about those who do. It isn’t just Mohammed or Islam that comes in for mockery in the West. Nobody is excused, nobody is a sacred cow, and nobody is sancrosanct when it comes to freedom of expression. Of course, anyone who is offended is also free to express their feelings. But ultimately – and here I’m agreeing in a roundabout way with the conclusion you reached – the extreme reactions and attention given to these cartoons are just going to provoke more attention and more of the same behavior.

  75. Carsten says:
    May 20th, 2010 1:06 am

    As a Danish citizen all of this fuss has effected me greatly.
    Here is what I think.
    1. It was wrong to draw cartoon of the Islamic prophet when the editors knew very well that it will hurt peoples feelings.
    2. It was wrong for the protesters to turn violent and even killing people.
    3. It is wrong now for this FB page to do things they might find funny but so many people find hateful.
    4. It is wrong if anyone again reacts to this by violence.
    This cycle of one wrong thing after the other has to stop.
    We cannot always wait for someone else to stop it.
    This is why I think this is a good example of someone saying, let us be the first to stop the cycle of wrongs.
    Thank you.

  76. Uni says:
    May 20th, 2010 2:07 am

    Salam to all

    The post is no doubt very ”moderately” written so that everybody and anybody would agree with it. But why are we so forgiving to the people who are not so ‘moderate’ regarding our religious beliefs. Most of the commentators agree with ignoring this act. I feel that if we ignore it, it’s only going to get worse.

    In the ideologically disturbed times of today, there is no sitting on the fence. You have GOT to take sides. And if you’re not taking this side, you’re definitely on the other. Again, in the words of George Bush on November 2001, ”éither you’re with us, or you’re against us.”

    So, why should I dignify it by a visit? Why should I publicize it? Why should I give it the attention it was created to seek.

    That is a very convenient way of letting people walk all over you. After all, why will there be a fight when one party just decides to become the punching bag? There is no logic in that.

    When you talk about the models the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) followed, there were always specific reasons for doing so (they weren’t strong enough, they had a higher purpose in mind, etc). The question is, did the Prophet allow artists to draw him then? He could have “handled it with grace, with composure, and maybe even with a touch of good humor.”

    But did he?

    No he didn’t.

    If he didn’t… what gives us the right to see something like that happening (and worse, because they’re making cartoons and insulting him), and not protest?

  77. Aliya says:
    May 20th, 2010 2:19 am

    @Uni. Please don’t lie about the Prophet.

    “handled it with grace, with composure, and maybe even with a touch of good humor.”

    Yes, that is exactly what he did. Always. At Hudaibia, with the women who threw garbage at him, always.

    Unless you consider yourself better than the Prophet (SAW), please don’;t spread lies about him and make him seem like an evil and angry mobster. He is Rehmat for the world and that means he was always tolerant. He would even have been tolerant with the likes of you!

  78. Ruhina says:
    May 20th, 2010 2:29 am

    Rasul Allah (sal Allahu alaihi wasallam)
    said: “He who stirs enmity among people, by quoting their words to each
    other, will not enter Paradise.” [Bukhari] – Listen up people.. The world has enough problems, dont stir up new ones. Ignore the provocation. Prove your love through obedience.. not demonstrations. How many of u, who are of…fline today, pray 5 times a day? Stop nitpicking.. concentrate on the facts. Good write up Mr Najam.

  79. Truth Seeker says:
    May 20th, 2010 2:40 am

    Freedom of speech is guaranteed by the constitution of civilized countries.

    You can disagree with the draw Mohammad idea, but you cannot destroy public property or break any civilized law.

    Simple.

  80. A. Danish says:
    May 20th, 2010 2:42 am

    Alhamdulillah, this is excellent writeup. You have spoken like a true and dedicated Muslim. Those who are inciting violence are only doing fitna in the name is Islam. Your approach in this writeup is the right one. Let us learn from our beloved Prophet (saw) and not dishonor Him (saw) with our anger.

    Wassalam.

  81. Farukh Sarwar says:
    May 20th, 2010 3:14 am

    The author has very rightly pointed out the problem with our people. Our Prophet (PBUH) always used to forgive and forget the people who hated him and threw stones at him; instead he (PBUH) always used to pray for their forgiveness.

  82. Fatima says:
    May 20th, 2010 3:31 am

    I would just like to say, I’ve been getting texts about certain illegal software and websites that will be used to take down facebook and the related website. Don’t do this. This terrorist and cyber crime is exactly the kind of things those hate group people want us to do. It will prove them right, and it might make matters worse for Pakistanis and muslims internationally. So we should think about this.
    In addition, if you do not want to view those images, don’t. Have some self control. Don’t block the whole thing. Some people have friends and family on facebook that they need to keep in touch with. We have been ordered not to view those images so that we don’t unconsciously start worshiping the prophet (PBUH). They were never ordered not to make them.

    Jahil log Jahil kaam he karte hein, you know you are right so take the high road and ignore them. If you stoop to their level, you make them right.

    Do not let the government gradually take your different freedoms away in the name of blind rage.
    There are worse websites out there than that one page. Let us use enlightment, knowledge and polite words to make our point. Lets make a good impression and show the world what Islam really is.

  83. Cutey says:
    May 20th, 2010 3:39 am

    It’s an attempt by racists who are trying to incite racial hatred. it’s not freedom of speech, it’s an attack on an individual group. Religion has always been a sensitive topic and some people are taking sick delight out of this whole business. I would only say that people should not base their opinions on things they do not understand. I doubt if any of these so called freedom of speech people have ever even read the Islamic shariah (rather than heard it from this and that source which is often incorrect) what i find extremely shocking is that despite the fact that many people reported the group to the FaceBook authorities the page still wasn’t deleted. does that not tell us how little FaceBook cares about it’s users and their privacy as well as their integrity. What we need to ask ourselves is should we trust such site with our personal information that cant even protect us from racial hatred and insults on our faith??

  84. libertarian says:
    May 20th, 2010 3:58 am

    Dawn says Youtube is blocked too. Boy – you guys have some real donkeys in charge.

  85. Tariq says:
    May 20th, 2010 5:13 am

    we must learn to repect mutual sensitivites especially relating to faith/religion. It seems a sizeable majority in the West has learnt to enjoy violance as they have startd to touch extemely snesitive issues in the name of freedom of speech. Every now and then such issues are raised by the so called free media and press with the sole aim of hurting the religious beliefs of muslims who are taken as weak and easy to irritate.
    The reaction so far has been effective and non violant and this should be enoungh as any thing more than this would amount to fullfilling the objective of this malacious campaign. We in this part of the world can plan dirtier and much worst things to the savage west but then what will be difference between us and them.

  86. Kashifiat says:
    May 20th, 2010 5:37 am

    What would Mohammad (PBUH) Do?.

    He exactly do what he did with Kaab Bib Ashraf, who killed by Sahaba (RA) at his fort. He ignored the Zulm In Makkah but in Madina, Where Islamic state has been formed his policy was aggressive.

    Since last one weak Muslims, protesting in peaceful way by using “Report” Option on FB, but FB administration criminally ignored & violet their own terms & conditions & policies. Its deliberate effort, so its our responsibility to raise voice & reflects our sentiments in peaceful manner, which we done by convincing other Muslims for boycott , which is very much welcome across the board. This is not at all the issue of one URL, whole FB administration is culprit.

    Lahore High Court verdict is landmark achievement in this struggle, I fully support this decision. It should be ban in Pakistan for certain time, this action will convey the message to all devilish mindsets that Muslims can’t tolerate any insult of any Prophet including Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH).

    Blasphemy can’t be a civil liberty.& Blasphemy can’t be consider as exchange of idea

    I have around 700 close contacts at FB & after shutting down of FB, I am missing nothing in my life. These all are illusions, hallucinations & delusions of our narrow approach.

    Since, yesterday I didn’t met a single person who has any objection on court verdict. These issues raised in Pakistaniat by Adil Najam ,Miss Saba Imtiaz of Express Tribune & some like these folks of so called Liberal Clan.

    Don’t count the things in penny / Rupees / dollars , even on them impact of one paise will not come, no matter. We should show our sentiments , which are going in right direction

    Ishq needs sacrifices, don’t use Logic here, Ishq is above than any logic. & Isq-e-Mohammad (PBUH) is above them all.

  87. Truth Seeker says:
    May 20th, 2010 5:57 am

    The very idea of religion is deeply offensive to any rationalist who bases him-herself on logic and evidence. Still we don’t see athiest or nobel prize winning scientists demonstrating on streets against religion.

    Any and every idea should be open to criticism in a civilized society, specially the ideas that are void of any scientific evidence and hence are by definition delusional.

    Societies that practice blasphemy laws have a long way to evolve.

  88. Kashifiat says:
    May 20th, 2010 6:06 am

    For those who believe on so called rationalism

    لازم ہے کہ دل کے پاس رہے پاسبان عقل
    لیکن کبھی کبھی اسے تنہا بھی چھوڑ دے

    Pls read

    http://kashifiat.wordpress.com/2010/05/20/may-20-boycott-facebook/

  89. Farm Boy! says:
    May 20th, 2010 6:28 am

    some comments stink of radical cancer of IJT activists!

  90. Farm Boy! says:
    May 20th, 2010 6:37 am

    Condemn Islamofascist judiciary of Pakistan! this judiciary is quick to ban the whole of social networking site but hasnt made any hue & cry at condemning the Clauses of Hudood Ordinance which permits punishment of BLIND RAPE “VICTIMS” .

  91. May 20th, 2010 6:45 am

    I totally agree with you Adil!
    I sufferend from a lot of pain too for this Facebook page been created on our Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) but you are so right about the pain we are feeling because of what have done. They have achieved their target. They might not have blasphemized our religious point but they surely have succeeded in creating a fuss in muslim society. I don’t know why our community gets so infuriated and not act like sensible and more in a religious way that they could do things and adopt ways to ignore all this like our Prophet (P.B.U.H) had done always. I wonder our High court and Supreme has the tendency to act upon all this right away and what about the filthy blood scukers our politicians who are a sheer follower to this Jewish rule and the unfathomble anti-religion society. This is just not the way to protest it. They demoral group targeted Facebook for that just because Facebook is the world no. 1 Social Media portal. It’s Facebook now but then it will be another site on next turn so on forming a chain. So people please solutionize it dont empower them more. THINK!

  92. Uni says:
    May 20th, 2010 6:56 am

    @Uni. Please don’t lie about the Prophet.

    “handled it with grace, with composure, and maybe even with a touch of good humor.”

    Yes, that is exactly what he did. Always. At Hudaibia, with the women who threw garbage at him, always.

    You misunderstood me. Read my comment again.

    I never said he didn’t behave in a very very tolerant way in the Meccan days. But I disagreed with this tolerant behaviour towards things he was strict about – one of them being drawing portraits.

    In his whole lifetime, he did not approve of artists making a portrait of him, though they did approach him. As a reaction to their request, he could have “handled it with grace, with composure, and maybe even with a touch of good humor” – but he did NOT.

    Now do you get this point?

  93. SAM says:
    May 20th, 2010 7:01 am

    An another attempt to make muslims outrageous on such provocative groundings ,which is totall unacceptable at our ends .Firstly they are continued with their efforts by hurting the great majority of muslims all over the world ,secondly for this vaild reason this face book n all the useless social networking websites belonging to these countries should be completely ban ,3rdly its such a waste of time being on these sites so it would be better for all of us ,if we deactivate our accounts.

  94. Satrangi says:
    May 20th, 2010 7:43 am

    http://tinyurl.com/37br4pr.

    Freedom of speech ends when some body abuse your father.
    Ask your “loving FB people ”
    to allow us to have page on “Draw the holocaust”

  95. Vinnie says:
    May 20th, 2010 7:58 am

    Face Book is a social network and every one there should respect others religion and consider the values. I think this is good that Face Book has been banned. The Humble and polite way was to make a cause against that but the people whomade such pages didn’t refrain from it.

    Atleast we should have the courage to speak against it and Boycott it!

  96. Ammar says:
    May 20th, 2010 8:26 am

    Mr. Adil,

    I am happy it is banned. When reasoning and requests do not give results this is the next step. So many muslims and i must say from ALL AROUND THE WORLD for many days were asking to ban the page as it hurts them, its defamatory, against the fb so called policies but they did not. I bet if it was anti-jew or making fun of holoaust or maybe against someone’s mother they would ban it…
    Before facebook people certainly did not die and will not die if it is banned. I am a regular user of facebook…
    If facebook doesnot give a damn if it hurts me or millions of muslims… why should we give a damn what they think or people think… or if they think we are backwards…. they do not give a damn anyway…either way….

    I am a regular user of facebook but i am happy its banned… there are many ways to contact the loved ones so people saying not having fb will do this that are just being foolish…

  97. Nihari says:
    May 20th, 2010 9:03 am

    Why is Pakistan the only Islamic country banning facebook?

  98. Naveed says:
    May 20th, 2010 9:03 am

    Well said, Adil. I couldn’t agree more.

  99. Eidee Man says:
    May 20th, 2010 9:26 am

    This is getting more idiotic with each passing hour. Terrorism ravaging the country, policemen being massacred at checkpoints, mass-kidnappings taking place, no power, no water, a devastating flood in the offing, and what attracts the most attention? An Internet post by some juvenile person halfway across the world.

    I had hoped that Adil’s views were representative of all of us, but sadly, that does not seem to be the case (judging from the comments posted here).

  100. Muldoon says:
    May 20th, 2010 9:37 am

    I can understand that as Muslims we are offended whenever there is a negative portrayal of the Prophet (pbuh). However, I don’t understand why we lose our minds so readily, with people like Qazi Husain Ahmed advocating violence against the perpetrators (I saw this on Dawn TV), and the minister for religious affairs bandying a global oil export embargo by Islamic states etc (same TV show).

    We always have knee jerk reactions and fan the flames, increasing the popularity of a small group of people who are on the margins somewhere. Our reaction over ‘Satanic Verses’ gave Salman Rushdie’s flagging litrerary career a second life, we made an obscure Danish cartoonist a hero, and our reaction to a page on Facebook will increase the site’s membership and popularize. It seems that the we are perpetrating a ‘saazish’ against ourselves!

    Every faith, country, ethnicity will always have a group that questions its belief systems from both inside and outside, often to the extent of being disparaging about it. Instead of banning people who do this, my suggestion would be that the educated and articulate amongst us counterbalance them by influencing their ausdience. For example, write to local and national newspapers, talk to people in your community, hold open houses etc and demonstrate that you are not made of fire and vitriol.

    It’s a game of hearts and minds, and we gave to play it too.

  101. Muldoon says:
    May 20th, 2010 9:38 am

    I can understand that as Muslims we are offended whenever there is a negative portrayal of the Prophet (pbuh). However, I don’t understand why we lose our minds so readily, with people like Qazi Husain Ahmed advocating violence against the perpetrators (I saw this on Dawn TV), and the minister for religious affairs bandying a global oil export embargo by Islamic states etc (same TV show).

    We always have knee jerk reactions and fan the flames, increasing the popularity of a small group of people who are on the margins somewhere. Our reaction over ‘Satanic Verses’ gave Salman Rushdie’s flagging litrerary career a second life, we made an obscure Danish cartoonist a hero, and our reaction to a page on Facebook will increase the site’s membership and popularize. It seems that the we are perpetrating a ‘saazish’ against ourselves!

    Every faith, country, ethnicity will always have a group that questions its belief systems from both inside and outside, often to the extent of being disparaging about it. Instead of banning people who do this, my suggestion would be that the educated and articulate amongst us counterbalance them by influencing their ausdience. For example, write to local and national newspapers, talk to people in your community, hold open houses etc and demonstrate that you are not made of fire and vitriol.

    It’s a game of hearts and minds, and we have to play it too.

  102. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 20th, 2010 9:53 am

    Ahem. When France imposed ban on scarf then every liberal endorsed it by giving lame reason. Now when it was done by a Muslim country then every one is lecturing us for freedom of speech. Hypocrites.

    Now how come Constitution of Pakistan is not supreme. AFAIK, the LHC imposed ban according to the law. One should not mould law for his own interest.

    I might not second band on entire network but protesting and boycotting is a legal exercise against some action. There’s no harm at all.

    Plus,95% of Pakistani awam use it just for wastage of time so I hope to increase in productivity and lesser procrastination in coming days. ;)

    To be religious issue or not, Pakistani youth don’t deserve such digital freedom at all

  103. Salman says:
    May 20th, 2010 10:07 am

    Great mean of drawing people’s attention away from the important and critical political isssues in Pakistan. Shame on this country’s leaders who share champagne with their Western friends when abroad and at home stir up the ignorant masses against such insignificant scandals. You cannot prevent someone on the other side of the globe to hate your religion. Do something to show how good it is. Yelling on your country’s streets: good, good, keep on man, you’ll go to paradise, at least.

  104. Ravi says:
    May 20th, 2010 10:16 am

    @Adil:

    “Regardless of what your belief or religion might be, to throw out offensive and hateful vitriolic for the simple and primary purpose of hurting someone else’s feelings…”

    Nice sentiments, brother!

    One last question.

    Does it ever occur to you that breaking of idols so glorified in Islam may be hurtful to someone else’s feelings?

  105. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 20th, 2010 10:28 am

    “Does it ever occur to you that breaking of idols so glorified in Islam may be hurtful to someone else’s feelings?”

    Not only Islam. It’s impermissible in all Abrahamic faiths.

    If I am not wrong, Sweden is a country dominated by Bible followers, regarding creating idols and image, have they ever read up Ten Commandments?


    You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

    You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me
    (Exodus 20:2)

    As far as freedom of speech is being advocated, something very classy I read online:


    your right to free speech ends where it steps on someone else’s right. Just like my right to swing my arm ends before it connects with your nose.

  106. -Farid says:
    May 20th, 2010 10:33 am

    Balanced View.

    A protest helps when it has a bearing on those being protested against.

    In this instance, some half-wit across the world does something stupid and we react by blocking some websites on our end.

    We’ve pretty much delivered ourselves in the hands of anyone in the world. Tomorrow if someone wants to shut down Emails in Pakistan, all he has to do is start a chain Email on a topic we don’t like and we’ll close down that as well.

    Certainly we should protest, the government can lodge a protest officially with Facebook. Individuals can protest using the same medium used to spread the vitriol. Newspapers should certainly write about this. But lets not make it so easy for anyone and everyone to control our lives.

    Don’t get me wrong. I’m no fan of Facebook and as such I don’t mind not having it. But lets handle matters in a more measured manner – this achieves nothing.

  107. Athar S. says:
    May 20th, 2010 10:41 am

    Well Said, Adil – Dead On!!! Can’t agree more.

    And, more commentators agreeing with us should come forward.

    Only the fringe minority can not and will not speak for all of us.

  108. Ravi says:
    May 20th, 2010 10:42 am

    @Adnan:

    “Not only Islam. It’s impermissible in all Abrahamic faiths.”

    So what? Do you mean to say that feelings of Abrahamic faiths should not be hurt, however others are a fair game?

    But wait a minute.

    You yourself answer it later that “my right to swing my arm ends before it connects with your nose”.
    Apparently, in your opinion the dictum should not apply if the nose is non-Abrahamic!

  109. libertarian says:
    May 20th, 2010 10:44 am

    “Does it ever occur to you that breaking of idols so glorified in Islam may be hurtful to someone else’s feelings?”

    Not only Islam. It’s impermissible in all Abrahamic faiths.

    You’re obfuscating …

    As someone on Facebook notes: “I’m starting a religion where the gods are circle, triangle and square. The new religion forbids depiction of these gods in any form. Any depiction will be met with mindless violence.”

    Ridiculous? This storm in a teacup is not a big step from there.

  110. Harris Siddiqui says:
    May 20th, 2010 11:01 am

    Today I visited this site after a long time and was not disappointed to find out that stupidity is still thriving in Pakistan.

    We have already isolated ourselves on the global platform and we are working hard at making sure that we are looked upon as irrational, emotional and destructive nation throughout the world. Way to go!!!

    Let’s see when Israel bans youtube for seemingly millions of videos of the Naik, Israr and other idiots like them who don’t let an opportunity go by without spreading their hate for the Jews and Christians.

    When will India ban that site for the garbage that comes out of Zaid Hamid and Hamid Gul’s mouth and pasted all over the internet?

    When can we learn that the best way to deal with a pack of barking dogs is to ignore them and keep walking. Why do we always end up barking back and encouraging even the quiet ones in the pack to start barking?

    For our esteem minister of religious affairs who thinks that a trade embargo should be the call of the day, I have just one thing to say. A country that can not survive without even importing fertilizer should think twice before uttering that phrase.

  111. omera says:
    May 20th, 2010 11:05 am

    being a Pakistani women i am pretty secular (though i dont pride myself on it wish i would offer my prayers more ) but when i learned abt this page it only took me seconds to join the boycot page on facebook… i could not be a bystander and let this happen. ur point is valid but think abt this if we had not done protesting and all that they still would have done it weather they got attention or not (like they have before in south park) .
    Pakistani people were dealing with this stituation in the correct manner , making boycott pages on fb , creating awareness through blogs and website and exposing fb’s double standard but the govt ruined everything. we could have done fb more damage without banning it.
    we the muslim nation have been looking other way for a looooong time now. we let them disgrace islam name and repution, corrupt the leaders of muslims nations and destroy plestine afghanistan iraq . enough is enough

  112. Ahmed says:
    May 20th, 2010 11:07 am

    Couldn’t agree to you more.

    For all the comments against this post, I have only one question:

    What would the Prophet (SAW) have done in this situation?

    For comments like ‘we have a right’, ‘what if something was said against your parents’, ‘we had had enough of peaceful requests to Facebook’:

    Here the subject of this entire affair is somebody who forgave killers of his uncle. We could express our extreme hatred and anxiety by having a contest for giving the best quote of the last Prophet (SAW), a best 200 words piece of writing on His life, the last Prophet (SAW) in the words of prominent non-muslims and countless other things.

  113. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 20th, 2010 11:17 am

    No I am not obfuscating. I am just letting him know that it’s not only Islam which does not believe in several gods. There are other religions as well who believe in same.

    @Ravi: Don’t get hyper. If you want a straight answer then being a Muslim I have no right to ridicule your religion or anything associated with it


    Ridiculous?

    Why? If someone believes star as gods then you should respect it or what it believes.?

  114. Alfredo says:
    May 20th, 2010 11:28 am

    Single best commentary I have seen on this or any issue regarding Muslim-West relations anywhere. Congratulations to author.

  115. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 20th, 2010 11:28 am

    Goin thru comments on Tech crunch and other sites,majority, or I say 97% Pakistanis are endorsing ban. There are several developers who earn via Facebook apps also not rejecting te idea of ban. lets not forget that majority of Pakistanis imposed self-censorship by reporting the group invalid. Several deleted the accounts as well. Govt.of Pakistani this time just made their sentiments offcial. Whether one like it or not but majority says it. I was rather not advocating ban as I was seeing this an opportunity to tableegh Islam to several non-Muslims because not all are ignorant and they do have good heart.

  116. libertarian says:
    May 20th, 2010 11:32 am

    I was rather not advocating ban as I was seeing this an opportunity to tableegh Islam to several non-Muslims because not all are ignorant and they do have good heart.

    King Farouk of Egypt was right: Pakistanis did invent Islam in 1947 …

  117. Abbas says:
    May 20th, 2010 11:34 am

    Interesting how some of our resident Indian trolls are feeling “left out” and trying to highjack this post too. Aah, attention seekers all :-)

  118. Humaira says:
    May 20th, 2010 11:36 am

    This is an excellent and very logical summary. I just tweeted it to my friends and I hope others will too. This is much more like what 97% of Pakistanis actually feel and we should be spreading this view.

  119. teena says:
    May 20th, 2010 11:58 am

    @ adnan siddiqi
    your comments are always so stupid, i wonder why you insist on using the same name always. i think you are under the delusion that you are “smart” and “so right”. Buzz off man

  120. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 20th, 2010 12:26 pm

    @ libertarian

    Why does it hurt you if I have affiliation with my religion?
    “Pass this on even if it’s a single verse”. This is what said by Prophet Muhammad(saw) in his last sermon.

    I am not ashamed of publicly admiting my religious association. Nobody stops you to proudly reveal your association with Britany Spears or whatever you believe.

    As far as Islam invention in Pakistan..well I would rather say Islam “re-discovered” in Pakistan which Iqbal seems to endorse as well.

    @Teena: Kindly don’t stress on your knee much. And by the way, why shouldn’t I use my own name?some kind of obsession?

  121. chander says:
    May 20th, 2010 12:30 pm

    Whether I beleive in 1 GOD or several or no GOD does not make me less human than any body atleastI dont kill anyone in the name of GOD.Let people make fun,my faith is not that small that it will get affected.I dont have to burn any effigy or kill any one to show that I am religious.
    Will the Pakistan gov ban Facebook or any other social network site if they were to make fun of any other religion.

  122. Athar S. says:
    May 20th, 2010 12:31 pm

    Adnan Siddiqui:

    Please take your rants away with you dude.

    We don’t live in your megalamaniac utopian La La land – and, don’t you inform us that your self discovery (or whatever) is a fringe, and you keep it on fringe.

    We will NOT let you hijack our sentiments, nor let you speak for us.

    I stand by what I said – Adil has done wonderful wonderful post, and you should read it again in entirey.

    We don’t have time for your useless rants, ignorance and self-defeatist victim mentality – sure shot path to destruction and hell.

  123. Nihari says:
    May 20th, 2010 12:42 pm

    For 4 months we had a catastrophe building to destroy human life and belonging. I am referring to Hunza. In Karachi 23 people were killed. the whole country is facing an acute shortage of electricity and clean water. In Lahore, 6 kids were killed because they were sitting on the roof of the bus and they hit the bottom of the byepass. We are facing a terrorism issue that is eating the foundation of the country like a termite..Yet the entire resources of the respected and AZAD judiciary, media and the government are busy in banning or condemning websites. We have the honor of being the only Islamic country to do so..Because the other believes that if you spit on the moon, it will come back on your face…

    Conclusion…We are the damned of the damns

  124. Atif Saeed says:
    May 20th, 2010 12:52 pm

    OMG!!! What is wrong with you people? So lets say we do try “the peace philosophy” and ignore’em. What’s next? do you really think they’ll stop? Look at what have they done to the image of Jesus(Hazrat Isa). I bet someone once said a cartoon of Jesus wouldn’t hurt anybody and now they have made a spectacle out of him. You can see Jesus guest starring in all types of movies and TV shows these days, in the most humiliating and disgraceful situations. It’s not that I am an extremist or a radical or something, I have been a fan of South Park and have seen all its seasons but there were times when I had felt extremely guilty for watching a humiliating sketch on Jesus and skipped a few episodes. Would you believe or follow a religion whose Prophet has such a disrespected image?.The fact is that this dishonored image of Jesus has already takien its toll. As per the American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS) conducted in 2008,the percentage of people who call themselves in some way Christian has dropped more than 11% in a generation. Atheism has doubled from 8% to 15% of the American population from 1991 to 2008. So keep your silence and decide that you want your beloved Prophet to be disrespected in the same way. Don’t you have any self esteem left? Don’t you want to protect your religion’s respect? We need to make a point right now and not using facebook or youtube is not going to kill us or anybody else.

  125. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 20th, 2010 12:57 pm

    Here comes the leftist Mullah Athar.”S” who is sending me in “Hell”. Kindly Join the Liberal Wing of IJT.

  126. kehkashan saher says:
    May 20th, 2010 12:57 pm

    i agree with Mr.Adil.bt i think everybody has his or her own style of expressing love.some people express their love by kinda extreme reaction,while some remain calm and composed till the end though they r not by heart,bt they dont want any sort of panic around them.it is not possible for everybody not to react on such an unbearable action.

  127. Anees says:
    May 20th, 2010 2:03 pm

    What will Mhammad (SAW) do? Exactly what he said:

    “The best among ye is he who is most courtesous.”   

  128. Babar Shehzad says:
    May 20th, 2010 2:11 pm

    Hi Adil, Can I have you email address? Add me or just drop me an email at babar-shehzad@live.com

    Many Thanks,
    Babar Shehzad

  129. Salman says:
    May 20th, 2010 2:39 pm

    Wikipedia(english) and Flickr are also BANNED .. just checked these..

    how is this creating “respect” for us or the religion ??

    why should the world give “respect” when we are bent upon making ourselves a laughing stock..

  130. The Me. says:
    May 20th, 2010 2:48 pm

    OmG. I’ve been trying to form a solid opinion about all this in my head since some time now. But for some reason, haven’t been able to find the right words or something. I’m GLAD I came across this post. This is exactly what I’ve been thinking and feeling about the whole thing.
    I totally agree with everything you’ve said. =] Yay.

  131. kashifiat says:
    May 20th, 2010 3:00 pm

    Dear Adnan,

    These mouthpieces of liberal / moderate clan is not more than 2% of society

    Vocal Minority at Pakistaniat vs Silent Majority of Pakistan

  132. Saad says:
    May 20th, 2010 3:06 pm

    Wow! An excellent analysis!

  133. M Adnan says:
    May 20th, 2010 3:07 pm

    @ Adnan Siddiqi
    If he is a lifist or a Mullah Abbas, then what are you? Rightist? or westist? or Adnan Siddiqi Bush? or Adnan Siddiqi Shiv Seena? or what?
    Personally i think you should either remove that word Siddiqi attached to your name or go behind the history of Siddiqis.
    You say many of people are developers on facebook. I myself is a developer but i can work in other fields, facebook is a not a priority and besides rizk aap ko Allah ne dena ha, facebook ne nahi, its only a passage/way. Also the ban is because what they did is wrong and it hurts us, and you know Muslims love their Prophet 10s of thousands time compared to the love they give to their mothers (perhaps you are not one of those). Also i think of this, after death when God will ask, this happened what you did? Also think if Mohammad PBUH was there and these things would have been happening and here comes some bloke name Adnan Siddiqi supporting facebook because of some noob cause. If you want to tablig you can do it through some other sites as well.

  134. Monkey says:
    May 20th, 2010 3:09 pm

    Thank you for this sane perspective. Thank you so much.

  135. Shahzaib says:
    May 20th, 2010 3:11 pm

    I have the exact same opinion.. just didn’t have the words to convey my message and influence my friends.. thanks to you.. I will make my friends read this for sure! Thanks again! :)

  136. aliza says:
    May 20th, 2010 3:20 pm

    hi Adil.
    i m very much disappointed by your article “What would Muhammad(SALALLAH’ HU ALAI’HI WASALAM) DO”. I think you should have named it as “What would i and other so called Modrate Muslims do” I think that suits the article most.
    I can’t believe you people can be so coward. Muslims can’t be cowards because we believe that everything is in ALLAH’s hand no one can kill or harm us in anyway until ALLAH wants. bro don’t be afraid. Musharaf also said that he is with America to save Pakistan but is Pakistan save????? just look around and open your eyes and accept the truth. If we would have supported our Muslim brothers of Afghanistan, Pakistan would have been in a much more safer position.
    Waiting for your reply.
    Your Well wisher sister.

  137. Arslan Ahmad says:
    May 20th, 2010 3:46 pm

    Agree but 70 %, Disagree Pak is nt the only country where protests are going on, Many other countries esp Iran which you think the role model for Muslims has now completely banned tht facebook so don:t say a stupid action taken by Court.
    As a whole nice try appreciable…. “Make your path clear, Love for Islam n Muhammad S.A.W, this stuff cannot do anything”
    again nice try man :)

  138. Arslan says:
    May 20th, 2010 4:00 pm

    Name of the article has to be changed …. Last part which i disagree, you are try to think like Muhammad S.A.W, how u knw He will do tht action You are taking decision no just one Hadess without knowing consequences …. A boy who dont knw about Hadess Quran n Fiqa is thinkg like Prophet then What these stupid(dash dash) Ulmah are doing here spending their life to knw about Islam ….!!! any answer

  139. Bangash says:
    May 20th, 2010 4:01 pm

    @Aliza

    If you had supported your terrorist brothers in Afghanistan and Pakistan instead of siding with the world after 9/11, as Musharraf did, then you will be living in the Stone Age, as had been promised by the world.

    Perhaps you should open your eyes and accept the truth that is it is because of terrorists that America is in the region, and it is because of foolish overreactions and rampant emotionalism of Muslims that Salman Rushdie, cartoonists and Facebook get super-publicity and make millions of $$$.

    Perhaps you will realize this after you calm down a few months later.

  140. Nihair says:
    May 20th, 2010 4:06 pm

    BREAKING NEWS.

    Supreme Court of Pakistan called the full bench on the issue mentioned above….People in attendence include all major party leaders and our Presedent and PM….Under the direction of our CJ, after banning Facebook, flickr, youtube and wikipedia, finally they have produce an order to have a complete ban on COMMON SENSE in Pakistan. They described it as ultimate blasephemous and injurious to health and mind of the Muslim Ummah….In addition they did an advance fateha to the people who are going to die in the Hunza disaster in future.

  141. Johnny says:
    May 20th, 2010 4:42 pm

    Bangash says:
    Perhaps you should open your eyes and accept the truth. It is because of terrorists that America is in the region, and it is because of foolish overreactions and rampant emotionalism of Muslims that Salman Rushdie, cartoonists and Facebook get super-publicity and make millions of $$$.

    I agree with this statment. (ie foolish reaction).
    If someone drew an offensive cartoon with pencil and paper, would you ban pencil and paper ? Why not ban computers altogether ? Banning Facebook, or any other form of expression is foolish.

  142. Teena says:
    May 20th, 2010 4:52 pm

    @ adnan siddiqie
    ah so yr stressing on ankle didnt help, cz if someone says such stupid things they shld at least not try to make a brand name associated with it. and one will only do so, if they dont smell the stink of their stupidity, i have been reading yr comments on several issues since month and your acidic and pathetic comments never fail to amaze me.

    also this article started with some sensible comments by users but majority of stupid pakistani masses have taken it over. I think internet should be totally banned in pakistan as these ppl live in stone ages and want to control e one.

    @ another dumb M adnan. please just because you are ignorant, have no courtesy, are backward, followe bearded beasts ulf moulvees, apologize for talibanees, live on USA aid and still hate your helpers, and have a peanut sized brain does not qualify you as somebody who understand quran and our prophet. somehow, in our country, the more ignorant, naliaiq, pathetic, and backward you are, more qualified you think of speaking about religion. people like you will soon persih, and its enligtened and mentally mature ppl like adil najam who will define in coming ages what pakistan and islam are. somehow ppl like you have brought nothng but jahalat, baiwaqoofi, and ridicule for us.

  143. teena says:
    May 20th, 2010 4:55 pm

    oh yes one more thing to all backwards here if hearing the truth about your peanut sized brains somehow set your sorry behind on fire, and your complexed male ego gets really bruised, I will feel I have done some real job in showing pathetic ignorant morons like you that how backward and stinking your thinking is.

  144. Teena says:
    May 20th, 2010 4:58 pm

    oh yes one more thing to all backwards here if hearing the truth about your peanut sized brains from a WOMAN somehow sets your sorry behind on fire, and your complexed male ego gets really bruised, I will feel like I have done some real nice job in showing pathetic ignorant morons like you that how backward and stinking your thinking is. I have lived my life in at least ten different countries but i have never seen stupidity as rampant as anywhere else as in my dear motherland Pakistan, we also rank highest in backwardness of men in this country.

  145. Qsaeed says:
    May 20th, 2010 5:28 pm

    Thank you Adil, for putting into words so eloquently, what i was trying to explain to this young pakistani guy yesterday, when he asked me not to go to facebook today and also told me that if i sit and watch, i will be just as gunahgar as the people doing it. and all i could do was just stare in horror at this guy’s thinking!!! i wanted to react and yell at him, as to how dare he said that to me and then i realized, may be thats what he wants! to rile me and make me react!!! so i said ‘to each their own’ and walked away.

  146. Uni says:
    May 20th, 2010 6:00 pm

    and it is because of foolish overreactions and rampant emotionalism of Muslims that Salman Rushdie, cartoonists and Facebook get super-publicity and make millions of $$$.

    This is a common argument presented both in the article and the comments section. The publicising issue. How we react and make the inciters more famous by doing so.

    Analyse our surroundings. WHO do we really speak out to? Who do we really react to? If the ratio of an organised Muslim protest is seen as compared to the times we’re all silent, is teensy. The ratio is tiny. So we don’t make a hue and cry out of everything. There is a host of individualistic insulting/derogatory remark-passing going on. And I dare say, many individuals might be secretly doing all they can to insult this religion. Fine. Let them.

    But our right to protest peacefully comes when they start something PUBLIC and make it spread out almost virally … and support it.

    Our right comes when they do not pay heed to any ‘Reporting the page’ function they’ve added, and totally ignore that part. If a page is being reported thousands of time, it has to be offensive to a lot of people. The dual-attitude of FB is also very apparent in the sense that I have heard they do ban (and very quickly) Islam-related content and pages.

    About whether protesting has produced any useful result, well.. At least Facebook is considering blocking the page to Pakistani user base. (Source: Yahoo News – http://tinyurl.com/2a98bs4).

    And finally :D

    @ adnan siddiqi
    your comments are always so stupid, i wonder why you insist on using the same name always. i think you are under the delusion that you are “smart” and “so right”. Buzz off man

    *chortle*. And I thought this was a mature comment board.

  147. Anwer says:
    May 20th, 2010 6:32 pm

    Top Ten Other Gratuitously Offensive Draw-a-Cartoon Days
    Posted on May 20, 2010 by Juan Cole

    http://www.juancole.com/

  148. Zecchetti says:
    May 20th, 2010 6:44 pm

    Excellent advice Adil,

    In fact, take a look at this advice given by a NON-MUSLIM:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ci1VmxtPb0

    Excellent advice.

  149. Asim says:
    May 20th, 2010 9:28 pm

    Adil, I appreciate your idea but the question is not what Prophet PBUH would have done in this situation, the question is what we have to do to prevent or stop this now and in the future?
    Our biggest problem is the lack of interest in your deen and extreme lack of Ummah unity. This issue should have been addressed by some central body of Muslim countries like OIC within United Nations or directly with Facebook management but since Muslim countries have no courage what so ever, we are seeing these days.
    I know confrontation is not the answer to these evil acts but atleast Pakistan is the only country which noticed it and restricted FB. Tell me which other Muslim country has taken it’s notice or has made any effort to rectify this situation?

  150. ali b says:
    May 20th, 2010 9:58 pm

    It was important to protest this kind of hate mongering activity and to bring to the notice of the Facebook management that this being a social networking site, how it has allowed offensive material to appear .If the muslims ignore this kind of activity and keep quiet,it will spread like wildfire and it will be difficult for muslims to even walk on the streets of any western country. The result of this protest has been that the author of this fiasco has denied that she posted any such request and at the same time apologized to the muslims.
    Facebook has also issued the following statement,” we want Facebook to be a place where people can openly discuss issues and express their views while respecting the rights and feelings of others”.
    In spite of this statements from Facebook management some goof may still try to post an offensive article and at that time we will see whether Facebook allows it to appear or not and muslims will re- act accordingly.

  151. PAKISTANI says:
    May 20th, 2010 11:17 pm

    Would facebook allow everyone post child porn day? Would they allow everyone call black people Nig.er day? Would they allow Holocaust was fake day? Why is freedom of speech not applied when offending others but when offending Muslims all of sudden they have to defend freedom of speech?

  152. Bushra says:
    May 20th, 2010 11:24 pm

    Very very nice. Agree 100%.

  153. banjara286 says:
    May 21st, 2010 12:16 am

    i agree that banning facebook does not solve any of the day-to-day life issues of people in pakistan. however this argument cannot be used to justify hateful practices such as the “draw muhammad day” on facebook. muslims have a right to express their indignation over such disgusting incidents.

    it is even possible that the court’s decision has helped to contain the reaction on the streets within manageable limits.

  154. readinglord says:
    May 21st, 2010 12:33 am

    They have blocked YouTube also. Why not ban import of computer now so that ‘Nah rahey baans nah baje baansri’. Don’t forget it was the PPP govt. during the reign of which an earth shaking amendment (the 2nd one) was made which had converted the constitution into a ‘takfiri fatwa’.
    So they can shake the earth again.

    Btw, the most hated thing in Pakistan today is the load-shedding. Why not they ban import and use of air conditioners also, a sure way of ending this nasty LS.

  155. Moeen says:
    May 21st, 2010 1:05 am

    Its v funny; for hundreds of years Muslims have been disrespecting and making fun of other religions; why this cry now? Abraham killed the gods of his people and blamed it on the bigger god. So did Mohammad, he told Quresh, they aren’t the real gods. For 1400 years, Muslims have been telling the neighbouring countries, become Muslim or give jazia or we’ll come and kill U and fill our harams with your women. Many great Muslims have been invading India, destroying Mandirs and killing hindu gods. Ghulam a Qadiani is still made a fun in Pakistan. Muslims don’t even respect that Jesus is a son of god. Hellloooo…why the Muslims are sooo disturbed now? As I said its v funny. A sacred person for U may not be sacred for me. I may make his cartoons. Live with it. Also, people living in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones at other people’s house. Its a free world; you don’t like it, don’t see that but pls don’t ask me the whole world to call your father abba jee:)

  156. Ammar Zafarullah says:
    May 21st, 2010 1:49 am

    Religious intolerance is a perturbing phenomenon, Face book exists all over the globe and apart from repressive regimes such as Iran or Saudi Arab which other Muslim country has banned face book? Or are we the only pious Muslims on the face of the earth? PTA and courts conveniently ignore numerous hate-speech sites which propagate extremism yet they are not blocked! I fail to comprehend this absurd logic!

  157. Uzma says:
    May 21st, 2010 2:14 am

    Thank you for writing this. You have said what so many of us are feeling and you have said it so well.

    A very small minority of fanatics is holding all the rest of us Muslims hostage in their anger and we must not let that happen. Just like a small minority of hate mongers like the ones who made this page do not represent all of the ‘West’, the few fanatic mullahs do not represent all Muslims.

    Thank God for that.

  158. Anita says:
    May 21st, 2010 2:26 am

    If face book was not banned all of us could have expressed our feelings on it and put pressure in a civilized way.Closing a window does not clear the filth outside.Banning all modern communication tools will throw us back in the stone ages.
    Common sense and rationalism is already banned in pakistan.Soon we will be thrown on rehm o karam of mullahs.GOD save us.

  159. Abbas says:
    May 21st, 2010 2:31 am

    Freedom of Speech only means Governement cannot stop or censor, however, each and every channel and website have their censorship policy, they do not give the right of freedom of speech as it is their personal property.

    Similalry if this reaction widens the policy of censorship on social networks, in the long run it would be better for the peace and harmony and for all human kind, and our muslim brotherhood as well.

    and Pakistan is our Property, we have the right to stop it, and if UN also pass this resolution for the sake of ‘sanity’ and confine the people who in the name of freedom of speech, only bring hatred and bad feelings for others, it will be upgradation of ethical standards.

    If someone belives that my body and my physical property has the right to be protected from harm, if my soul and feelings need that, something must be done.

    For facebook which is a money making business, it needs larger customer base, for profits, they will always go for what majority wants.

    And as customers we can negotiate our terms and conditions.

    and on the lighter note, atleast it is politcially good for the Government.

    One thing more, If my father was targeted every now and then without any good reason, and I had gone to the court, and court of any place would have not ask me to keep quiet, rather sue the person who have hurt my feelings.

  160. David S. Berger says:
    May 21st, 2010 2:36 am

    Dear Dr. Najam,

    My daughter sent me a link to this site and asked me to read this. I must say that I did so with skepticism, expecting another passive-aggressive outburst of victimhood and anger.

    I write to tell you that I was wrong. I have been impressed and wowed by your argument and the clear presentation of your case. I admire your humanism and the clarity of your thought.

    I wish you the best in creating a better understanding amongst Muslims and non-Muslims around the world.

    My daughter was right, we need more people like you on our planet today.

    Thank you.

  161. May 21st, 2010 4:33 am

    Mr Adil
    Instead of expecting or speculating about the Prophet PBUH who is no more in this world. I would ask you two simple questions
    What if somebody posts on internet the real photos of your sister or mother having sex with their boy friends. I hope you would never mind it having high moral grounds in your heart for that wrong doer.
    What if some one calls names(abuses) your mother grand mother father or sister in front of people on your face, I guess you ll surely turn your back at him and forgive him.
    I am sure about that Mr moral…

  162. ali hamdani says:
    May 21st, 2010 6:12 am

    He would have probably forgiven then. You should win others by ur moderate way of life. If Taliban had lead a life according to Islam and a normal life loving others. This would never happen. Taliban kill their people and they plan chaos in our country.

  163. yousuf says:
    May 21st, 2010 7:54 am

    It’s now the time that we MUSLIMS / PAKISTANIS take the step towards ruling the technology world, and Allah willing, we, the Muslims, can easily be a bigger internet power than them. Support the Pakistani youtube http://www.utube.com.pk which is owned and controlled by a Pakistani company so there will never be any blasphemous material on it for MUSLIMS. Let’s make our website successful, so we can beat their youtube and facebook

  164. Straw says:
    May 21st, 2010 7:58 am

    It’s amazing how we equate recklessness, inhumanity and indifference to people’s beliefs and emotions with freedom of expression. While ‘enlightened and moderate’ are so concerned and apologetic about the way people behave, they render a rather sheepish criticism of the act which instigated them in the first place.
    I personally believe learned facebook-ers apparently wanted to respond to the site’s failure(which was in clear violation of Facebook’s Statement of Rights and Responsibilities), of removing the preposterous group even after being ‘reported’ by Muslims around the globe, by a token economic blockade and boycott (instead of taking to streets and setting tires on fire) but our government decided to shut it down with a censor point of view.
    I also believe that we should be more educated and learned about our religion; its philosophies and its teachings. We need to understand that unlike Ostriches, we have to stop being scared of what we might come across or face and need not bury our heads into sand. Censorship is not the solution. Dialogue is! Let’s study our religion comprehensively, understand its true message, understand how and why other people would behave in the way they do and then get our message through with reason and honor without feeling the urge to be apologetic. I have, through the same mediums that our government has dim-wittedly banned, cleared misconceptions, shared the other side of the picture and convinced a dozens of my friends from Europe and US, the ideas we truly believe in and how we need to respect each other for the same.
    Killing of thousands of Muslims in Gaza, Iraq and Afghanistan in the name of war against terror, extra judicial apprehensions, trial-less tortures, banning of freedom to choose what one wears or builds and events like caricature drawings are targeted against a set of people, against everything they believe in and are nothing short of fascism, hatred, discrimination and bigotry. And the nations, western or eastern need to take the responsibility and accept the challenge of making this world culturally, morally and religiously aware.

  165. Bilal Ahmed says:
    May 21st, 2010 9:08 am

    Mr. Adil Najam! First of all I would like to congratulate you that many Non-Muslims (on a forum) are praising your article and the way you think and I want to congratulate you on proving yourself a true follower of our Great Prophet (pbuh). I would but like to raise some questions, number 1: Yes, in circumstances like these, Prophet (pbuh) would have acted as you said, but how can you say that his followers should also act like him? My mother can gracefully ignore someone who insults me, but would I be a good son if I also just ignore that wrong doer and if I do not do anything against his wrong act? 2: Do you know that in life of Prophet (pbuh) some of his followers killed a Jew who insulted Muslim women of Medina in worst possible way, do you that assassination happened on orders of Prophet (pbuh)? Do you know that in his life, on his orders, at least one fake Prophet was killed as he was inciting Muslims to accept his new religion and to leave Islam? 3: Facebook is just a social networking site, it is not like Google or Wikipedia (two most useful sites), so what harm would happen to us if we leave a site on publishing caricatures of our Prophet (pbuh)? Especially when facebook earns more than 45 % of it’s revenue from Muslim users, just imagine, if they have to lose their 45 % revenue, wouldn’t this force them to think on their retarded definition of “freedom of expression”?

    With Love and Respect from your Pakistani Brother :)

  166. Abbas says:
    May 21st, 2010 9:23 am

    Dr. Najam, first let me congratulate you on an excellent article. You have expressed the sentiments of many here.

    Also, let me point out that actually there has been no violence or violent protest.

    As a means of protest refusing to visit the offending page is perfectly good and those who want to do so should do so.

  167. John says:
    May 21st, 2010 9:48 am

    I am a non-Muslim living in the USA.

    I would first like to point out that the Facebook group and movement is called “Everyone Draw Mohammed Day”, not “Everyone Ridicule Mohammed Day.” Although many people will do just that, there is nothing in the original cartoon that encouraged people to be disrespectful. Unfortunately, even respectful drawings would inflame the Muslim world.

    Many people are talking about how Muslims should use protests and peaceful methods to get this stopped and to ensure that such things are prevented in the future. My question is, if Muslims want everyone else in the world to abide by Islamic rules so as not to offend them, are Muslims prepared to extend the same courtesy to the rest of the world? What if I find the name Muhammed to be deeply offensive? Are Muslims prepared to erase of all mention of their prophet from the internet so as not to offend me? Somehow, I don’t think so.

    Some people have asked what would happen if people started drawing pictures of the holocaust. Well, racists DO draw such pictures, and they get protested about. It doesn’t become a worldwide issue. The only reason that this HAS become such a big issue is that the people behind it know that Muslims are so easy to anger. That’s the entire point. This entire thing was staged to show the world how easy it is to provoke Muslims. If things like the Danish cartoons and the South Park episodes had only sparked letters of protest or peaceful demonstrations, none of this would be happening now. Instead, the fanatics had to send death threats. In any other case, they would mostly be written off as idle threats. However history has proven that death threats from Muslim fanatics aren’t to be taken lightly.

    You wonder why it’s considered acceptable for people to intentionally offend Muslims? Maybe it’s because Islam has produced more psychos in the last 50 years than all other religions of the world combined. And yes, “psycho” is the correct term for anyone who would strap a bomb to their body and use it to kill as many innocent people as possible. Or who would hi-jack a plane and fly it into a building.

    Even if you ignore the fact that most of the world’s terrorists are Muslims, how is the world supposed to respect a religion that is used to justify things like “honor killings”, or teenage girls being stoned to death in backwards villages for the ‘crime’ of being raped? You can say that such things don’t accurately represent Islam as a whole, but why are such things allowed to happen at all?

    To put this in perspective; If it became known that a Catholic church in a small US town was torturing confessions out of accused heretics and then publicly burning them at the stake, there would a huge public outcry, the people involved would be arrested and the government would take steps to ensure that it didn’t happen again.

    Until Islam as a whole can end the majority of barbaric acts committed in its name, both by terrorists and by extremists who believe they have holy law on their side, the world will continue to see Islam as a threat.

  168. Aftab says:
    May 21st, 2010 9:48 am

    A highly persuasive and rational article. Keep on enlightening us.

  169. kamran says:
    May 21st, 2010 10:37 am

    Sir Adil Najam,
    Did you know your article is making waves everywhere and has gone viral. Just did a quick Google search and found this:
    THE AUSTRALIAN did a full story around your headline: http://bit.ly/bGEuiy
    THE EXPRESS TRIBUNE carried a version of your post, but I think without the best part, which was the ending, http://bit.ly/FBTrib
    FRANCE24 news channel also quotes you: http://bit.ly/9AZgMe
    Well done in spreading the sane message around.

  170. Jonathan says:
    May 21st, 2010 10:41 am

    Love the perspective. Sane. Rational. Reasonable.
    Wish all of us everywhere could be like that.

  171. Aftab says:
    May 21st, 2010 10:43 am

    I think it is OK to protest if the protest is peaceful. Better than government bans.

  172. Bangash says:
    May 21st, 2010 10:49 am

    @Bilal Ahmed

    From where do you get this figure that facebook gets 45% of its revenue from “Muslim” users ? Did Zaid Hamid drop that figure in one of his crazy broadcasts ? Facebook is not Geo News which operates in Pakistan and relies on Pakistani advertising.

    I have also seen some other goofy comments on Dawn.com with people praising the ban and claiming it will lead to Pakistanis “inventing new technologies and not relying on West”. LOL!

  173. Waqar says:
    May 21st, 2010 11:08 am

    Great post. And a very sensible and true Muslim viewpoint. This is the real islamic approach. One that learns from the Prophet [saw] and not from some angry mullah.

  174. Syed Ehtisham says:
    May 21st, 2010 11:18 am

    Very nicely written and well argued. But unfortunately the rationality of the many can be broken by the irrationality of just a few.

  175. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 21st, 2010 11:26 am


    Muslims can’t be cowards because we believe that everything is in ALLAH’s hand

    well..Jo Allah se nahi darta wo sab se darta hay.

    Anyways, Adil is a professor hence naturally he would talk about theoretical matters rather practical one. I have no right to do badgumani about what all he advised because “ideally” it should be like that but one thing i would like to know why did he even refer Muhammad or His life for this particular incident.

    Did you ever think of “following” Muhammad’s life on other matters of life too. Why there is no mention of Muhammad(saw) and His Hadith which oppose paintings of living and Music? Why there is no mention of Muhammad(saw) when it comes to offer Namaz, do Miswak and keep beard. Why there is no mention of Muhammad(saw) when He said;


    No one can be a Muslim who keep Me(saw) dear more than your parents and other loved ones (Bukhari)

    Why there is no mentioning and following of Muhammad(saw) when He said in his last sermon,pass it on even if there’s a single verse

    It’s funny that you are using Muhammad(saw)’s teaching while in past 3 years you did not even bother to think of mentioning Him and advising others to follow Muhammad(saw)

    I myself would not advocate plain ban for already mentioned reasons but why is it irking several psuedo intellectuals if ppl are not willing to use facebook or registering their protest online? Why does it irk if ppl on road protesting about it?

    When ppl can chant out about Altaf or Zardari or when can lawyers can make life hell by protesting on roads for their cause then why not those who are against it? You are not a dictator hence can’t dictate anyone. As long as ppl are not harming others, they are free to protest about anything.

    Facebook or anyother sites have baisness. The non-Muslims who have been telling us about “evil” of Islam are not aware of the Bible which they have already thrown in dust bin. So when a “Jhon” don’t remember what Jhon The Baptist teaches then how can he even think of lecturing others?

    I think the dilemma of Western society is that they are forgetting their own values. The secularism which they feel proud of has vanished in air and now entire society has got radicalized against Islam. I can feel the pain because Islam has been penetrating in presence of all hurdles but let’s not “blame” us for it. Your own elders initiated something which is actually working in reverse. The “Mujahideen” of “Promised Land” who still dream that they are Children of “Israel” hence God is happy with them are not embracing the reality of the religion which was already prophesied in their own Book and trying various excuses to reject what was said in Bible; Be it “Songs of Solomon”,Verses by Moses in Bible or Advise by Jesus(AS) , they are not willing to accept hence their racist mind can’t accept someone who don’t belong to their trible just because He is an “Ishmaelite”. The incident like Gulf wars and other discrimination against Muslims make a “bored with religion” person to get into the religion because when someone attacks a belief other would get hurt or would get curious to read about the stuff which is being opposed.

    Should not I be thankful of mr.bush who played the major part in my life to get back to the religion back in 2003 otherwise I was as ignorant and beghairat about religion like many pseudo intellectual here? Allah has his own ways to spread His religion. I was a person who had just finished Quran twice or thrice in 26 years but when I saw online after war that how non-Muslims talked crap about my religion and asked various Questions about my own faith ten i felt dumn as I had no answer. They tried to ridicule my religion by saying ,”your prophet was a pedophile” ,”your prophet could not even read then why did Allah choose him?” and various other questions. In past 7 years I found the answers of what all which naturally disturbed me.

    You have 3 ways. 1)either get out of control and hurt you and others by getting involved in harmful activities like blast and others 2) you act up like a beghaira t,become ignorant and believe what non-mUlsims teach you and at times become apostate too 3)believe in Allah(Swt) is perfect and is RIGHT about what Allah has done so far. Thankfully Allah put me in 3rd type and made me to study Islam. I am yet a student and know prolly 0.1% of Islam but whatever I know I feel contented about it. I have no shame to tell others I am Muslim and to tell you honestly, your non-Muslim friends would respect you and often would get curious about your faith. As long as you know what are you following, you are safe otherwise you would turn to a “Liberal” who is neither in “teen mey na tera may”

  176. Samad says:
    May 21st, 2010 11:31 am

    It is those who want to take us away from the way of Islam and the way of the Prophet who incite us to violence. The real path of Islam is always the path of tolerance.

  177. Jamshed says:
    May 21st, 2010 11:50 am

    This whole thing has the potential to turn very very ugly.I hope people on the streets remain peaceful.

  178. Akif says:
    May 21st, 2010 11:55 am

    John, I’m a muslim living in the USA and let me address (from my perspective) some of the issues you raised.

    First of all, I agree with you about your points about muslims being overly sensitive, having produced more psychos in the last 50 years (how convenient of you to erase the 50 years before that), the curse of honor-killings in certain communities etc. I’m no fan of religion as most veterans on this website can vouch.

    However, let’s step back and get some perspective. You questioned whether muslims would afford the same courtesy to non-muslims. When was the last time you heard or read a muslim (even the psychos) ridicule Jesus, Moses, Buddha or any other religious figure from any other religion?

    You sanctimoniously declare that muslim are easy to anger….and they are. But is the anger at home….our home….any better? Have you ever frequented the blogosphere surrounding anything muslim and encountered the hate that’s spewed out every minute of the day? How is a person sitting at his desk with all the information in the world at his disposal any better than the ignorant muslim shouting in the streets? Yes, I realize and am grateful that this anger is not allowed to translate into violence due to the rule of the law….but it’s a fine line…..and it’s increasingly becoming finer.

    You say that if it became known that the Catholic Church was doing something of the sort, there would be a huge public outcry, people involved would get arrested etc. Funny thing, the Catholic Church is involved in something of the sort (unless rape is not looked upon unfavorably) and I haven’t seen any arrest warrants against the Pope yet. Secondly, the church did plenty of torturing and killing in their times until power was wrested away from their unwilling hands. As Jon Stewart once said,” you know why the Church is sooooo nice now…….because they don’t get to have an army anymore”.

    While the muslim world does not have anything like the Church, unfortunately the religious zealots do get to have their own armies. And that’s a reality that we have to deal with for the foreseeable future……until the more hopeful times when the power will be wrested away from their unwilling hands. It’s an intercommunity struggle that will take its course and it cannot be expedited by foreign intervention, imposing democracy via occupation, winning hearts and minds etc. Only education, trade, travel and Facebook can make these breakthroughs. And that’s why I think Pakistanis should ban all bans because they never have and never will serve any purpose.

  179. Calculating_Misfit says:
    May 21st, 2010 1:08 pm

    @Bangash

    “From where do you get this figure that facebook gets 45% of its revenue from “Muslim” users ? Did Zaid Hamid drop that figure in one of his crazy broadcasts ? Facebook is not Geo News which operates in Pakistan and relies on Pakistani advertising.”

    The correct figures is that there are 2 million user accounts from Pakistan from a total of 400 million. This amounts to 0.5% of the total. Not to mention, that ad space is probably less revenue generating than in western countries.

  180. Asim says:
    May 21st, 2010 1:20 pm

    Feel free call me kafir or anything else, but how does anyone know which religion is right…I mean what proof do we have that any prophet is telling the truth… all the things prophets say happened to them occurred when there was no human witness. All the messages that we say are from God they appear to be our interpretation.

    I have asked Molvis about that and they say that I am thinking like kafir and I have to blindly follow what Quran say….to me, all I am doing is asking a question and clarification and nobody seems to offer any answer other then another verse which has no real meaning to me.

    To Adnan Sidiqi, you say fear God…why? becuase he can do bad things if we dont obey him? Why not love God because he can also do good things? God does good things to people who do not obey him aswell!

  181. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 21st, 2010 1:34 pm

    @Asim: Good questions. To Molvis who called you being Kafir for questioning are ignorant about Islam itself because if questioning was Haram in Allah’s Sunnah then Abraham would not have questioned in his Childhood when first he considered Moon his God then stars and then Sun and when all were set then He(AS) thought there is someone who is above All and that is noone but Allah(SWT)


    you say fear God…why? becuase he can do bad things if we dont obey him

    If you love someone a lot, say your girl friend ,your mom or wife or kid, would not you have fear to lose if you don’t obey any of them. Tell me, don;t boys and girls get ready to do ANYTHING for their loved ones? Now would you call it a “brutal fear” because they would “beat you like hell” or because of Love?

    same goes with God. Everyone is free to accept God in His own way as it’s the matter between God and the person but When I know that Allah is “Rahman” and “Rahim” then I would automatically feel no fear to befriend with him. And when Allah(swt) Himself claiming in Quran that Noone can be my best friend more than Allah then why do you act like an idiot and seek expectations from other humans which I know can turn around anytime?

    So avoid such illetrate molvis. As far as your question is which religion is right, well my friend unless you read about religions which you have doubt, you can’t know it. As far as Islam is concerned, If you are serious then Allah will help you Himself because Guidance is in Allah’s hand only. Even Muhammad(saw) did not have power otherwise Abu Talib, Muhammad’s Uncle would not have died as an infidel. So read about Islam. After all there are thousands of people who read about Islam after 9/11 and embraced it. On youtube you can find various videos about new converts.

  182. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 21st, 2010 1:37 pm

    Sorry for typo:


    than Allah then why do you act like an idiot and seek expectations from other humans which I know can turn around anytime?

    should be read as


    than Allah then why do Iact like an idiot and seek expectations from other humans which I know can turn around anytime?

  183. Saima Khan says:
    May 21st, 2010 2:02 pm
  184. libertarian says:
    May 21st, 2010 2:19 pm

    Especially when facebook earns more than 45 % of it’s revenue from Muslim users, just imagine, if they have to lose their 45 % revenue, wouldn’t this force them to think on their retarded definition of “freedom of expression”?

    Surely you jest. Don’t know about “Muslim”, but (from running a site which generates > 100M and growing at 50% per year) Pakistan is more trouble than the money it brings in. Facebook cannot say it openly, but they probably feel similarly.

  185. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 21st, 2010 2:40 pm

    The most sensible comment is actually given here:

    http://tinyurl.com/26sgjej


    I think this whole thing is seriously misguided.
    Let’s be honest- this isn’t about free speech. No one’s free speech was ever impeded. Drawing pictures of Mohamed is perfectly legal. Drawing them anonymously doesn’t mean anything, because there’s no threat to you. All these people are doing is giving an anonymous ‘fuc k you.’ Also, most of the Mohamed drawers are probably hypocrites.

    Consider child porn ography. In most western societies, it’s illegal to even draw child por n. Why is this? Technically, it’s not hurting anyone. However, in Western culture, child por n is considered a crime, immoral, sick, disgusting, etc. So we condemn people who use child porn, socially ostracizing them.

    This is exactly how some Muslims feel about drawings of Mohamed. It doesn’t have to make sense to you, that’s just how they feel.

    Now, if you believe in the principles of Draw Mohamed Day, upholding free-speech, nothing is sacred or off-limits, then you should have no problem with something like Draw Child Porn Day

    Now one should cry over this law and allow child porn or even child labor.

    On other hand Jews protest against “Anti-semite” Cartoon

    http://www.thejidf.org/2010/05/action-alert-comedy-centrals.html

  186. aliya says:
    May 21st, 2010 3:06 pm

    pakistan has done the right thing, all these people need to remove their accounts from facebook and youtube and take their accounts and .5% revenue some where else. On facebook their are all kinds of pages eg a group that prays about Obama’s death, a group about “all those who hate jews”, a group that says “i wish all romanians die”, all kind of absurdities.

    i dont understand this appeal to “ager koi tumhari maa ya behun ki galli dai to tum chup raho gai?”, well it depends, if one is a high school kid yes u will stay and fight, if you are a mature individual who has grace and composure you will walk away.

    also people who are talking about islam here, it is so funny and absurd that they even dont know the fact that Muhammad’s uncle and grandfather and father, all were on “deenay ibraheem” and did not die Kafir. LOL please educate yourself and then go out and teach other people what to do. For a starter read Martin Ling’s book on prophet. It was awarded prize for best biography of Prophet by Pakistan govt.

    SO long Jahalat in pakistan.

  187. rehan yamin says:
    May 21st, 2010 3:31 pm

    To some extent,i agree with you point.. But according to me,we
    should’ve spread the awareness and banned it,without visiting that
    page though..
    If Muhammad (PBUH) were here and he had to handle all of these
    matters,that approach we can’t judge,how could’ve he done it..
    But at very first place,this wouldn’t have happened because we’ve
    shown them this much leniency to help them doing it..we’ve kept all of
    our data at that website,our interest information etc..they’re doing
    whatever they want and we’re just watching it silently as a
    movie..they’re invading our territories and we’re silent..
    Atleast in this scenario,we worked together,we are A Bit United
    because of this page event.. Like earth quake in pakistan brought us
    closer and had shown the world our real strength and unity..
    Once Again,its my view
    No Offence :)

  188. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 21st, 2010 3:31 pm

    @Aliya: Ignorance is bliss. Usually a sect of Islam claims what you are talking about or treat Ali Abi Talib holier than God. What I said about Abi Talib is not my words as it’s all mentioned everywhere that Muhammad tried his best to convince him to emrace Islam, he did not. Read Quran about it please.

    Abi Talib had his own reasons at that time but technically He could not be called Muslim after the advent of Islam. When Islam arrived then Allah canceled all previous Shariah otherwise people of that time could continue drinking Alcohol in the name of “Deen-e-Isa” since Alcohol was not forbidden in his time. And what’s surprising in it? Stating about Abi Talib does not mean to ridicule Him. But let’s not get into this detail. I was telling Asim that Hidayat is in God’s hand and he should not give up just because he does not get it at first place

    As far as Serat Book is concerned, the award winner Book(due to world contest) ,”Al Raheequl Makhroom” or “The Sealed nector” in English is one of the best books in easy language about Prophet Muhammad(saw)

  189. Uni says:
    May 21st, 2010 4:07 pm

    @Samad

    The real path of Islam is always the path of tolerance.

    Yes, tolerance is quite emphasized on in Islam, that’s correct. But there are certain issues on which there is no question of ‘sitting and watching silently, then making a move to have a chat with the inciters over a cup of tea’.

    One of these issues is insulting the Holy Prophet (saw).

    You might have seen, heard thousands of articles, videos, discussions, books (you name it) which insults Muslims, or their religion. So don’t we all TAKE it? And be tolerant about it. At the most, we give an e-mail feedback to such content and forget about it the next day.

    It is ONE particular issue here that’s caused this reaction. Not the many thousands of insults/derogatory remarks that crop up by the second literally.

    @Asim
    all the things prophets say happened to them occurred when there was no human witness.

    And that’s why one should argue about something when they have at least basic knowledge regarding it. That line of yours is a glaring misrepresentation of knowledge and is factually incorrect. Please go and read about the stories of all the prophets known today. Many events were actually seen by the public, and in Prophet Moses’s case, there was an entire audience which viewed one particular event.

    And don’t blindly trust just any scholar. Do your own research, and then go for questions.

    @aliya
    well it depends, if one is a high school kid yes u will stay and fight, if you are a mature individual who has grace and composure you will walk away.

    This doesn’t make sense at all. Why? Because people care about their families and their reputations far more than anything they care to care about. Whenever there is a rape case being reported, why do they protect the said girl’s identity? Sensitive matters are always fiercely protected, and anybody would be extremely hurt and protest if their families’reputations were attacked.

  190. Tanzeel says:
    May 21st, 2010 4:31 pm

    In my view entire internet should be banned. During Mohammad’s time we never had this evil concept hence its against sunnah!

  191. Mian A. Ahmad says:
    May 21st, 2010 4:33 pm

    I felt ashamed to be a Pakistani when on seeing demonstration scenes on TV yesterday, in which abnormal, mentally retarded mullahs and seminary students were burning flags of USA and Denmark. Imagine a scenario whereby an announcement is made during the very demonstration that US and Norwegian embassies are giving away visas liberally and all those who can make it to those embassies within an hour will get visas and work permits instantly. I am sure that all those buring the flags of those very countries will run towards those embassies to go to the land of opportunity. Such are the double standards of these religious fanatics. May God Help Pakistan.

  192. Asim says:
    May 21st, 2010 4:55 pm

    Well my question is, if God loves his beloved prophet so much, then why doesnt God take care of people insulting his dear prophet?

    I personally have never received any direct order from God and i dont believe in any molvee or his sermon or any quote from any book….infact i dont even knwo who wrote our book as it was written after Prophet Mohammad’s death and we all know how all muslims fought amounst themselves for power, So unless God comes down and clearly tell me what to do, Oh dear God no hints please as I dont want any room for any mistake, I am going to use my own brain to do what I think is right and not do what I think is wrong!

  193. Asim says:
    May 21st, 2010 4:58 pm

    forgot to tell this to God that you know how dumb I am, so if you dont give me straight forward order and simply rely on hint, my interpretation might not be what you are hoping for!

  194. Bilal says:
    May 21st, 2010 4:59 pm

    While I agree with the writer to some extent. One must not forget that here we are talking about the greatest(and the last) of Prophets. Mohammed (P.B.U.H) cannot simply be made fun of in any way. There is no if or but.
    I fully support the anger and the ban. While we cannot stop anyone in Uganda doing that, there may be a hundred other instances of this hate towards our Prophet- we must do whatever we can. facebook is a global social networking hit, what better way to convey our message.

  195. aliya says:
    May 21st, 2010 5:00 pm

    @ uni in Pakistan every 7 min one girl gets raped, but instead of reporting it and punishing the victim, ghairatmund ppl like you hide it. then according to your shria the rape victim needs to prove she is innocent by producing 4 witnesses or get prepared to be lashed. very fair and islamic. but of course if someone curses your mother or sister you should make sure that person learns the lesson. this is twisted male ego = ghairat and has nothing to do with justice and morals and ethics.

    @ adnan
    i am so at the end of my wits. where are you coming from that abu talib was kafir. oh wait group of savages (slafi or saudis) who in hatred of ali would say anything. also Martin ling (who later converted to sunni islam and his muslim name was abu baker siddiqi) wrote in his most authentic book that what was the lineage of Muhammad which hands he was raised in and which pure lineage he came from. His father, uncle abu talib and dada abdul mutlab were on din-e-ibrahim.

    of course many ignorant like you also believ that Muhammad (pbum) was an illiterate, waqai-miraj didnt happen, and other stupid things. cause ppl like you have no spiritual understanding of how prophets of God are raised and where they come from. Please educate yourself. the greatest threat to the message of muhammad are ignorants like you who are full of hatred and nonsense. yet you have to protest for a facebook page.

    you are absolutely beyond reason and logic. i will waste no more time reading your comments and reply cause you are not worth any sensible person’s time or money. Good luck with your jahalat.

  196. May 21st, 2010 5:31 pm

    @Asim: I also never received any Direct order from the CEO of Intel about how to troubleshoot Intel products if they ever get failed. What all He did that He provided a Manual and other helping materials to deal with it. Anyways this forum is not the place to discuss this topic.

    @Aliya: Sigh. Imam Shafai(RA) would have met someone like you that he had to say this:


    I debated a scholar and beat him. Then I debated a layman and that layman beat me – he had no knowledge of the principles and texts. I had nothing to say

    Have fun.

  197. Uni says:
    May 21st, 2010 5:38 pm

    @Asim
    Well my question is, if God loves his beloved prophet so much, then why doesnt God take care of people insulting his dear prophet?

    That’s kind of on the same lines as ‘If God wanted to protect good people, why ever would they fall sick, be poor, get into scrapes and accidents and be hurt?’

    This discussion is definitely not relevant to this particular comment board. You’re now debating on Islam, rather than the issue at hand. That’s a discussion for some other post. Perhaps.

    One thing. There is absolutely no use for discussion/asking questions if you don’t have an open mind.

    @aliya
    in Pakistan every 7 min one girl gets raped, but instead of reporting it and punishing the victim, ghairatmund ppl like you hide it. then according to your shria the rape victim needs to prove she is innocent by producing 4 witnesses or get prepared to be lashed. very fair and islamic. but of course if someone curses your mother or sister you should make sure that person learns the lesson. this is twisted male ego = ghairat and has nothing to do with justice and morals and ethics.

    Read my comment again. I mentioned “Whenever there is a rape case being reported, why do they protect the said girl’s identity?”

    I am not against the REPORTING of the case. I’m merely talking about the news channels blurring out the face of the victim and the families (if they request and most DO), for the sake of privacy for the family. And that is not even remotely connected to your claims that I believe that for a rape case, four witnesses have to be produced etc.

    Do you even believe that Islam, calling for justice, would ever do this grave an injustice to a victim?

    I was talking about protecting the families. That’s inherent, and practised by all. You would be idiotic to assume that people would sit quietly and have a dialogue if anybody happens to insult their near and dear ones. They wouldn’t take it on FACE… let alone FACEBOOK.

  198. Salman says:
    May 21st, 2010 6:22 pm

    Anyway..

    In the name of holiness and pleasing God..

    we have banned ourselves from one more site ..

    news.bbc.co.uk

  199. Salman says:
    May 21st, 2010 6:39 pm

    When the Quran clearly restricts who can be killed, how do we justify murderous hatred against those defaming Islam ?

    Can someone please clarify, if we actually have examples of punishments against “blasphemy” from during the time of the Prophet or Caliphs ? or where else are they derived from ?

  200. Tawfiq Ali says:
    May 21st, 2010 6:47 pm

    (These words are courtesy from Muzammil Baig)

    I would like to mention two important things from history……. REMEMBER these are not my ideas these are from history

    When Hazarat Ummar (RA) was Calif, an Imam of mosque used to recite the same versus of Quran in every prayer. Some people mentioned this to Hazarat Ummar (RA) about this and he (RA) called him and asked about it. The Imam replied that he used to recite these versus because Allah warned Prophet (PBUH) in these versus and I used to enjoy the warning of Allah to Prophet (PBUH)…….. by the end of this sentence Hazarat Ummar (RA) has be handed his head from his body with his sword.

    When kuffars used to torture Hazarat Bilal (RA) and ask to say just once that What if Prophet (PBUH) is on your place here on fire and sand. He (RA) always replied it’s better for me to die here but I can’t even imagine about what you are saying.

    ………. history is full of such incidents of love with Prophet (PBUH)

    Dear fellows, it’s not the matter what Prophet (PBUH) do in this situation but question is that what is level of love you feel here. Last thing, that please don’t adopt the opinion of anyone without knowing him. A doctor has final to say about disease, a mechanic has final to say about car, a person having command and knowledge about a field has to say last…… the same way why you should consult someone having full knowledge of Islam and then believe on it. Just to mention I am not talking about political Mullahs.

    Mr. Adil Najam its a typical response who lives in the west, Is he has to say final about this issue? ask yourself…….

  201. Ajnabi Khan says:
    May 21st, 2010 9:36 pm

    I found your write up very interesting, and great analysis.
    Usually, I agree with the more liberal views, however, I beg to differ with your stance in this article. While ignoring the issue would have been one option; and, definitely better than shooting someone, burning tires, or “general tore-phore”. The main point where I agree with you is that Face Book should have shown sensitivity to millions of people who would be offended by “Draw Muhammad Day”; they knew better; it is in bad taste, to say the least. Is there nothing better to do for these people other than spend time insulting others?
    Just like when we become liberal minded and we expect that the religious people should respect our right to think independently; is it not incumbent upon us to offer the same courtesy to those who continue to be live their lives “more religiously”?
    Even though I might have ignored this competition because I am liberal minded; I agree with those who think that they need to protest “loud and clear” that their feelings have been hurt. A boycott of Face Book would, in my humble opinion, be a reasonable way to show that this behavior is unacceptable. “Tore-phore, burning tires, shooting, and killing” does not achieve anything.
    Hopefully, those whose feelings are hurt will send the message in an appropriate manner; peacefully and with dignity.

  202. Jeff Wheeler says:
    May 21st, 2010 10:41 pm

    I support the Facebook page. I support free speech. Everybody has the right to draw a cartoon of whoever they choose — Mohammad or anyone else. It’s important to stand up for this basic human right. It hurts people’s feelings, or offends them? So what. Do you think people have a right to expect to go through life without getting offended or having their feelings hurt? No they do not. You might say it’s forbidden in your religion to depict Mohammad. Maybe so (although in history, many Muslim artists have depicted the Prophet). In any case — rules of the Muslim religion do not apply to non-Muslims. What makes you think you can make up a rule that binds me? That is not your place. As a cartoonist, I have the right to draw anyone I choose to — and you’ve got NOTHING to say about it. If your feelings are hurt by a cartoon, your job is to grow up and get over it — quit being a pathetic crybaby. Hopefully “Draw Mohammad Day” will become more popular every year, to make the point that your “feelings” are not more important than the right to free speech. You can’t cut off all of our heads.

  203. Elaine says:
    May 21st, 2010 11:34 pm

    Nice read and thoughtful take on a difficult subject. This gives me hope that we have sane people still with us. But maybe we still have more insane people – those making these hateful pages as well as those getting all twisted because of them.

  204. Bangash says:
    May 22nd, 2010 12:06 am

    @Jeff Wheeler

    Your stance is unreasonable. If you are free to provoke, others are free to respond. Alas provocateurs like you can now draw their filth, and make some bucks due to the overreaction of Pakistanis and other Muslims.

  205. Allan says:
    May 22nd, 2010 12:21 am

    The Facebook page was in response to the censoring of an episode of South Park that was to depict the Prophet Mohammad. There was a lot of outrage from the Muslim community and even death threats were sent to the creators of the show. There was no outrage from Christians or Buddhists, however, even though the show had Buddha using cocaine and Jesus looking at internet porn. The mere mention of Mohammad, on the other hand, leads to death threats. My question is how come there is a double standard with Muslims? How come shows like South Park and websites like Facebook can be offensive to certain religions but not to Islam? That question is not rhetorical, I really would love to know.

  206. Tammy says:
    May 22nd, 2010 12:56 am

    Seems like the proponents of the web page are as worked up as its opponents. Maybe the creators of the page should also lighten up. Don’t fool yourself into thinking you are saving civilization by doing this. You are as idiotic and as extremist and as fundamentalist as those who are protesting in the streets againts you. Actually, the two groups are exactly the same in attitude, just on different sides.

  207. Rashid says:
    May 22nd, 2010 1:05 am

    First of all, this is really an outstanding analysis and my congratulations to you on it. I totally agree with your views and I think most Pakistanis and Muslims do.

    But let me say that we should also be proud that Pakistanis, even those who disagree with this view, have found ways to protest peacefully and without any violence. If this passes without any violence then the haters who made the page would really have lost because then they are really proved wrong.

  208. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 22nd, 2010 1:34 am


    Well my question is, if God loves his beloved prophet so much, then why doesnt God take care of people insulting his dear prophet?

    @Asim: Read last ayah of Surah Kausar. Allah has already decided the faith.


    For he who makes you angry (O Muhammad (Peace be upon him)), – he will be cut off (from every good thing in this world and in the Hereafter)(108:3)

    @Jeff: I am rather thankful you guys are revealing the darker(and actual) side of Western Civilization which our liberals worship more than a God. Thanks for such sick attempts against Islam. As long as there are people like Bush,Molly Moris ,Lars Vilks and others, I as a Muslim less worried to promote Islam in West because you people are working up entirely opposite of human nature. More you spread anti-Islamic content, more people are curious to know more Islam about Islam. No doubt Allah has own ways to spread his religion.He can use anyone to let others know about Islam.

    Even I had joined that blasphemous page and I entered with following lines:


    Salam(peace) to All mankind. I am a Muslim and proud to be one! I belong to a religion which cares more for mankind than the God itself that’s why Islam cares more for human rights than submitting to rituals. Islam is a religion which provides way to help others. This is why Islam rewards when someone removes the stone from road or any obstacle. Islam rewards when someone gives a smile to his parents early in the morning. Islam rewards when someone give away his meal to the needy.

    I agree that there are lots of confusions about Islam;due to some lame activities by crackpots and then propaganda by media. I believe most of you re good at heart and due to lack of knowledge you consider Islam is a threat.

    Guess what? surprisingly many contacted me personally and welcomed me on board too. Some of them asked me where can they know more about Islam and Muhammad because before the incident they were not fully aware about Muhammad(saw);eh how can they when they are not even aware about their own religion. See, you guys are promoting more Islam than us Muslims. Thankyou! and continue it

    @Salman: dude BBC is working. Stop getting hyper.

  209. Moeen says:
    May 22nd, 2010 1:42 am

    The most stupid comment I found here was by Mr Chand Khan; he says to Adil: “Mr AdilInstead of expecting or speculating about the Prophet PBUH who is no more in this world. I would ask you two simple questionsWhat if somebody posts on internet the real photos of your sister or mother having sex with their boy friends. I hope you would never mind it having high moral grounds in your heart for that wrong doer.What if some one calls names(abuses) your mother grand mother father or sister in front of people on your face, I guess you ll surely turn your back at him and forgive him.I am sure about that Mr moral…”
    Just imagine my friends, how a person can become out of his/her mind by a religion; this guy is comapring someone’s siter, mother and grandmother that U have lived with, touched, eaten with a freaking preacher that was born 1500 years ago that you have never met, talked to or seen? just imagine friends; how religion can make U nuts and banannas:)

  210. Ravi says:
    May 22nd, 2010 1:44 am

    I personally believe that the esisting world religions won’t survive another 100 years, but the concept of god might survive in some form. As of today Americans have achieved the power of god – They created artificial life from the scratch and Americans are entering the age of Synthetic Biology. They are the ultimate creators on Earth, you go around your house and give me a list of 10 inventions that was not invented in the USA. I doubt you could find any. They could take any life if they really wanted and now they are in a position to give life. Americans should be biologically classified as Homo Sapien Americansis a higly evolved human subspecies!

  211. Moeen says:
    May 22nd, 2010 1:47 am

    Ravi: Where do U live? Americans are v religious and fantic people; drive around a church on a Sunday morning. They are as fanatic as Muslims/Hindus. Being an athiest in America is just like being a gay in America in 50s:)

  212. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 22nd, 2010 2:15 am

    Moeen has made the most hilarious and stupid comment on this forum.

    According to his lame theory, he does not respect those whom he never met(physically). By that mean he would not hesitate to be a potty-mouth for his forefathers whom he has never met, right Moeen? After all that’s what atheism/secularism all about. I am still hoping I find some sensible atheist/secularist who once try to use his brain while discussing on public forums. But how can they be sensible when they proudly tells that their ancient forefathers were…. roaches!!(Darwinism zindabad!)

    On a related note, LHC has asked govt to submit case in International Court of Justice! oops!

    BTW, the current peaceful protest by Pakistani Muslims against the page must have given a severe heart attack to those who had been dreaming for secular Pakistan for last 9 years. It seems their all attempts like spreading vulgarity, ridiculing religion in the name of modernism have gone all vein. They should curse to Molly Morris and others who once again ignited the “Muslmaniat” of Pakistanis.

  213. Moeen says:
    May 22nd, 2010 2:40 am

    Adnan: U made the point buddy. Yes, I can’t even imagine how my forfathers look like and U want me to respect them or compare with someone’s living sister, daughter or mother? Infact, I don’t respect, love or hate them because I haven’t met them; don’t know them…so U close yr eyes and imagine Mohammad and start loving them more than yr family that u r living with?hahaha

  214. Moeen says:
    May 22nd, 2010 2:45 am

    Yes, we were not roaches, we were and are monkeys. Thats what research data suggests; not some talking snake telling Eve: eat the fruit and guess what; they become naked and are thrown on the earth. Fairy tales. Mohammad was just a man who came up with a religion saying theres a big man sitting on 7th sky. If someone makes his cartoons, live with that; its a free freaking world:)

  215. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 22nd, 2010 2:55 am

    @Moeen: Thanks for explaining what kind of moral values you posses even for your own forefathers.

    I guess “evolution” process has not touched you that’s why you are still being a Monkey. Thanks for explaining me evolution though I would suggest you to read a bit what carl segan says. You would reconsider your views because he claims that we were sharks in ancient times then became human. I guess such stories are more fictitious than “religious stories” you deny.


    Its a free freaking world

    Well I could agree If I was free to live but you and me both have to die one day. Give me an eternal life then I would endorse your claim

  216. Mobitunes Codes says:
    May 22nd, 2010 4:08 am

    facebook should completly and permanently blocked in pakistan and all other islamic countries.it will be a lession to others.

  217. Bilal Ahmed says:
    May 22nd, 2010 5:09 am

    I want to share some thoughts on this topic. My questions are from non-Muslims posting in reply to this article.

    Number 1: What good purpose this distasteful and extremely disgusting “freedom of expression” serves?

    Number 2: Why do you think that we can call this “freedom of insult” as “freedom of expression” as the former is a negative and destructive act, which only creates hatred and chaos and the later is a positive and productive act, which forces people to think on their behavior?

    Number 3: I do not care about atheists, but cannot Christians stop trying to insult our Prophet (pbuh) only for the sake of love and respect we have for their Prophet (pbuh) (who is a true Prophet according to Qur’an)?

    Number 4: We Muslims would accept for dialogue and share our thoughts on any serious, decent and civilized criticism on our Prophet (pbuh), then why don’t you people adopt the civilized way to criticize our Prophet (pbuh), as that would initiate a serious dialogue among us and we would come to any conclusion?

    Number 5: If you can call this childish and disgusting practice, freedom of expression, why can’t we call death threats and assaults on those cartoonists, freedom to act?

    And at the end of my post I want to address some extra-Liberal Pakistanis, if Iqbal, thinker of Pakistan supported killer of a person who insulted Prophet (pbuh) (Ghazi Ilm Deen Shaheed) and if Quaid-e-Azam fought for him in British-Indian courts, what exactly “Pakistaniat” is on this specific issue?And yes I also condemn non-serious and childish attitude of some Mullahs who only caused and are causing problems for us, with their attitude, but not for those wrong doers.

    Respect and Love :)

  218. Zecchetti says:
    May 22nd, 2010 5:18 am

    When you attack black people, they call it racism. When you attack Jewish people, they call it nti-semetism. When you attack women, they call it sexism. When you attack homosexuality, they call it intolerance. When you attack your country, they call it treason. When you attack a religious sect, they call it hate speech. But when you attack the Prophet peace be upon him, they want to call it freedom of speech!

  219. Hamza Qamar says:
    May 22nd, 2010 5:28 am

    *… slogans, banners and naara-baazi. Ok the article is impressed but i would like to ask just one question. Would the Prophet (PBUH) ignore people making fun of religion, would he ever ignore the idols in Ka’ba, would he ignore the wars they fought for Islam? Point is, if we follow his steps, we can ignore what’s happening bad with us. For the Prophet (PBUH) religion was a higher priority than his own being, for us our Propher (PBUH) is one of the major components of our religion. So we can ignore if someone throws garbage at us, or we can offer the other side of the face if somebody slaps on one, but we can’t ignore the blasphemy of our religion. We reacted well and I am proud to be a Muslim and a Pakistani…

  220. Hamza Qamar says:
    May 22nd, 2010 5:37 am

    Please read impressed as impressive line1 and Propher as Prophet line7.

  221. Majid Ur Rehman says:
    May 22nd, 2010 6:11 am

    By banning facebook, we have accepted that we are not good believers of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). If we were, we would not have required to ban facebook.

  222. Abu Salamaah says:
    May 22nd, 2010 7:25 am

    All Praise Due To Allah Alone, The Lord Of The Worlds

    May Allah’s Peace, Blessings And Mercy Be
    Upon The Imam of Messengers and Prophets (Allah’s Peace Be Upon them all), all of his Companions, his Family, his Wives (The Mothers of The Believers) and to all those who follow him and fight and defend his Cause (Which Is Actually Allah’s Cause.)

    Allah The Almighty Mentions In Surah Al-Mumtahana Chapter 60 Verse 1-3:

    “1. O you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies as protecting friends, showing affection towards them, while they have disbelieved in what has come to you of the truth, and have driven out the Messenger (Allah’s Peace and Blessings Be Upon him) and yourselves because you believe in Allah, your Lord! If you have come forth to strive in My cause and to seek My good pleasure. You show friendship to them in secret, while I am All-Aware of what you conceal and what you reveal. And whosoever of you (Muslims) does that, then indeed he has gone (far) astray from the straight path.) (2. Should they gain the upper hand over you, they would behave to you as enemies, and stretch forth their hands and their tongues against you with evil, and they desire that you should disbelieve.) (3. Neither your relatives nor your children will benefit you on the Day of Resurrection. He will judge between you. And Allah is the All-Seer of what you do.”

    If they gain dominance over you, they would be to you as enemies and extend against you their hands and their tongues with evil, and they wish you would disbelieve.

    This is in response to those who have dedicated a day to insult the Messenger of Allah ﷺ. This is the ruling of Islam upon you in this world. And if you die unrepentant, then your punishment in the afterlife will be more severe than what you can imagine. This ruling is upon those who insult the Messenger of Allah ﷺ directly and those who encourage it and call it “a good idea” or endorse it in any way – which is an insult in itself. These drunken hopheads who were abandoned by their parents have been going around advertising themselves and the creations of their frustrated minds.

    1- The Ruling on those who insult the Messenger of Allah (with evidences) – May Allah’s Peace And Blessings Be Upon him

    2 This is ruling applies not only to Prophet Muhammad (Allaah’s Peace And Blessings Be Upon him) but to all other Messengers and Prophets of Allah. (Allaah’s Peace Be upon them all)

    3- Doubts regarding the application of the ruling
    4- Message to Muslims
    5- Message to the filth

    The Rulings on those who insult the Messenger of Allah ﷺ:

    Abu Dawood (4361) narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas that a blind man had a freed concubine (umm walad) who used to insult the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and say bad things about him. He told her not to do that but she did not stop, and he rebuked her but she did not heed him. One night, when she started to say bad things about the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and insult him, he took a short sword or dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it and killed her. The following morning that was mentioned to the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). He called the people together and said, “I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right over him that he should stand up.” The blind man stood up and said, “O Messenger of Allah, I am the one who did it; she used to insult you and say bad things about you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not give up her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was kind to me. Last night she began to insult you and say bad things about you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.” Thereupon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Bear witness, there is no blood money due for her.”

    (Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 3655)

    – The permission of Killing those who insult the Messenger of Allah ﷺ

    – There is no blood money due for the person who is killed for insulting the Messenger of Allah ﷺ

    – No permission is needed from any Khaleefah or king or Imam in this matter. The blind man killed the woman without informing or seeking the permission of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ. If this was wrong, the Messenger of Allah ﷺ would have corrected him for that and said “You should have asked my permission” or something similar to that. The silence of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ is evidence of permissibility.

    Doubts regarding the Application of this ruling:

    The Hadd punishment cannot be carried out without the permission of the Imam or the Judge.

    Reply : The Above Hadith is proof that the person who kills those who insults the Messenger of Allah ﷺ does not have to inform the Imam or the judge or seek his permission.
    The evidence for this is the blind man did not inform the Messenger of Allah ﷺ or seek his permission. If this action was wrong, the Messenger of Allah ﷺ would have pointed out his mistake and corrected him. Instead, the Messenger of Allah only said: “Bear witness, there is no blood money due for her.”

    We should forgive them because and show them mercy

    Reply : It is true that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ would either forgive those who insulted him or punish them. But the Messenger of Allah is dead and nobody in this ummah has the right to forgive those who insult him “on his behalf”. This is the exclusive right of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ. If it was a personal insult to me, it is up to me to forgive the person or seek an equitable revenge. I have no right to choose on behalf of the Messenger of Allah (Allah’s Peace and Blessings Be Upon him). Also, the blind man did not forgive the woman even though she gave him two sons like pearls and she was kind to him. He did not forgive the woman on behalf of the Messenger ﷺ even when the Messenger ﷺ was alive. How can we forgive those who offend him after he is dead?

    Message to Muslims :

    This is for those who bow to none except Allah and affirm the Messengership of Muhammad ﷺ – their love for him is greater than the love of the blind for sight, fish for water and all living beings for life. Indeed, love is not possessed except by the living. I address this message to a mountain of apparently dead hearts – hoping that there are signs of life in at least some of them. No one believes in Allah and the Last Day except those who love Prophet Muhammad ﷺ and Al-Islam more than all of the creation. Defensiveness for the deen is the essence of true Eemaan. The Kuffaar, in their arrogance, have once again exceeded the ethical limits derived from the Fitrah – which all humans possess – and have fallen below the level of dogs and pigs. They had destroyed our Masaajid. They have killed our children. They have violated our women. They have wiped our villages out of existence. But all of this does not come close to their greatest transgression – the selection of a day to insult the Messenger of Allah ﷺ.

    As for people like Adil Najam, who attribute falsehood to the Prophet (Allah’s Peace and Blessings Be Upon him) things that they themselves do not know!

    There is very strict warning against this.

    The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever narrates a hadeeth from me thinking that it is false is one of the liars.” Narrated by Muslim in the Introduction to his Saheeh (p. 7).

    Narrated by al-Mugheerah ibn Shu’bah (may Allaah be pleased with him) narrated that he said: “Lying about me is not like lying about anyone else. Whoever tells a lie about me deliberately, let him take his place in Hell.” Narrated by Muslim in the Introduction to his Saheeh (no. 4).

    Allah Mentions in Surah Al-Maeda, Chapter 5, Verses 51-53:

    51. O you who believe! Do not take friends from the Jews and the Christians, as they are but friends of each other. And if any among you befriends them, then surely, he is one of them. Verily, Allah guides not those people who are the wrongdoers.) (52. And you see those in whose hearts there is a disease, they hurry to their friendship, saying: “We fear lest some misfortune of a disaster may befall us. ” Perhaps Allah may bring a victory or a decision according to His will. Then they will become regretful for what they have been keeping as a secret in themselves.) (53. And those who believe will say: “Are these the men who swore their strongest oaths by Allah that they were with you” All that they did has been in vain, and they have become the losers.

    One MUST NOT BE AFRAID TO TELL THE TRUTH WHATEVER THE CONSEQUENCES

    Allaah Mentions:

    “Except those who repent and do righteous deeds, and openly declare (the truth which they concealed). These, I will accept their repentance. And I am the One Who accepts repentance, the Most Merciful”

    [al-Baqarah 2:160]

    WHATEVER HAS BEEN DECREED BY ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER (ALLAH’S PEACE AND BLESSINGS BE UPON him) – NONE CAN CHANGE:

    In Surah Al-Ahzaab, 33:36:

    “36. It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger (May Allah’s Peace and Blessings Be Upon him) have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenge (May Allah’s Peace and Blessings Be Upon him), he has indeed strayed into a plain error.”

    Allah Says in the Quran, Surah Al-Baqarah Chapter 2,Verse 42

    “And do not clothe the truth with the falsehood, nor hide the truth while you know .”

    Therefore, it is not for us to convey what we desire but to convey the religion in its entirety no matter the consequence.

    Also

    Your Eemaan is confined to “condemnation” and expression of disappointment” but has failed to move a finger in action. How long will you procrastinate? Will you let this opportunity to demonstrate your love for Muhammad ﷺ pass? Do you prefer to stand shamefaced on the Day of Judgment – the shame of having failed to take even the smallest step in the defense of the honor of the Messenger ﷺ? Or do you wish to smile at the Hawdh al-Kawthar with pride in your eyes and radiance on your face that you were able to annihilate the voices that cried out and the pens that moved to defame the one who awaits you there?

    If you come to know about this and wait – even to drink a glass of water – you have waited too long. Rush to the defense of Islam. Rush to the defense of the honor of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ. Let them taste the fruit of what they have sown. Let them taste the fruit that will make them mutes down to their last generation.

    Message to the filth ,

    Soldiers of Shaytaan! Take heed! Take heed! We are people who drink blood and we hear your blood is very sweet. You cowards – who have lost on every battlefront – have finally thrown off your veils and exposed your real face. But we knew what you hid in your hearts all along.

    We are people willing to die defending the honor of Allah’s Messenger ﷺ and Al-Islam and then rise up again and then die again and then rise up again and then die again – with smiles on our faces – forever. And how long is ‘forever’!

    Repent! Repent! before a Muhammad Bouyeri finds you riding a bike on the street. We are not afraid of the darkest prisons or the worst torture. Our worst fear is facing our Rabb on the Day when a person’s limbs will testify against him. So this fleeting world, with its “laws”, “police”, “courts” and “trials”, looks ridiculously childish to us and is unworthy of our attention. So don’t even think that you can stop us from upholding the rights of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ. We will not hesitate or show mercy. No! Our heart will not soften for one second to “think twice” or “sympathize” with you. We will, if Allah wills, try our utmost to make sure we are not disgraced on the Day of Judgment.

    Your enemy – An Ummati Of Prophet Muhammad (Allah’s Peace and Blessings Be Upon him)

    Let the east and the west witness: this is the Ummah of Muhammad ﷺ and it will not abandon him like the previous nations.

    Let the east and the west witness that we are lions and we will hunt down these filthy boars and feast on their bloods.

    Oh Allah! I have called to Your path for Your sake and out of Tatayyum for you.

  223. Jennifer says:
    May 22nd, 2010 7:55 am

    The only thing this debate has proved to me is that there are idiots everywhere. Those agitating defending incitement and those agitating a silly page are equally idiotic and both those they are the custodians of the world. Sadly, we are fools too, because we notice both these sets of idiots.

  224. Malik says:
    May 22nd, 2010 7:56 am

    Excellent job Dr. Najam. You have said what so many of us feel and said it well.

  225. Farooqui says:
    May 22nd, 2010 8:33 am

    THE MOST COURTEOUS AMONGST YOU IS LOVED MOST BY ALLAH.

    That is the only lesson I need to know. That is my Islam. Those who preach violence in the name of religion as as misguided as those who preach violence against religion.

    Those who made this page are also extremist mullahs. Just of a different kind!

  226. Riaz says:
    May 22nd, 2010 8:51 am

    100% agree with Adil Najam.
    My faith is stronger than something that will be threatened by a stupid FB page or by hurtful comments from people who think they are being too smart for themselves. I do not need them to reaffirm my faith and nor do I need mullahs.

  227. Salman says:
    May 22nd, 2010 8:56 am

    @Abu Salama:

    You have been the most sincere person among all those putting their comments here..

    you have my respect for standing up without hiding and twisting the truth ..

    and the way you have explained that according to Islam, one doesn’t need any permission from anyone before killing a blasphemer is the most unapologetic response I have ever read..

    Thanks.. your post should teach something to all “peaceful” people here..

    And I would request Adil Najam to take take a more sincere stance now that we have a much more clear and documentary evidence regarding what the Prophet would have done..

  228. Erik Olson says:
    May 22nd, 2010 9:10 am

    Tolerance. I wish the hater mongers who made this page and the people protesting it could both learn a little tolerance.

  229. rajan says:
    May 22nd, 2010 9:37 am

    @Hamza:

    “Would the Prophet (PBUH) ignore people making fun of religion, would he ever ignore the idols in Ka’ba,…”

    No. He would not. He would break the idols without any regard to other people’s religious beliefs.

    It is wrong to hurt religious sentiments of Muslims. However, there is nothing wrong in hurting other people’s religious sentiments.

  230. Rajeev says:
    May 22nd, 2010 10:58 am

    I have been a silent follower of this blog and I must say that this must be one of the best ever posts on this or any blog I know. Right up there with what Prof. Najam wrote recently about the medal ceremony in Pakistan and his post on the Bombay attacks. Thank you Prof. Najam. You are the conscience of all of South Asia.

  231. Ajnabi Khan says:
    May 22nd, 2010 11:31 am

    @Jeff Wheeler says:
    May 21st, 2010 10:41 pm

    Just because you think that you have the right to draw anyone you choose, as a cartoonist; does that mean that you have the right to be insensitive towards other people?
    Some people living on this planet might think that insensitivity equates to uncivilized behavior. Is it not this insensitive thinking pattern that can approach hate mongering, practicing double standards, racism, etc; and, ultimately lead to overt and covert acts of violence and intolerance?
    Don’t you think that free speech also includes the right to freely express disgust towards insensitive and callous behavior?
    I totally agree with you that one needs to grow up! May be, it is the insensitive people who need to grow up!

  232. me says:
    May 22nd, 2010 11:35 am

    Uni says:

    I am not against the REPORTING of the case. I’m merely talking about the news channels blurring out the face of the victim and the families (if they request and most DO), for the sake of privacy for the family. And that is not even remotely connected to your claims that I believe that for a rape case, four witnesses have to be produced etc.

    Do you even believe that Islam, calling for justice, would ever do this grave an injustice to a victim?

    Perhaps you haven’t heard about Aisha Ibrahim, the 13 year old girl who was stoned to death in Somalia by Islamic extremists for reporting her rape at the hands of three men?

    http://tinyurl.com/2eo6afy

    Or Zafran Bibi who was sentenced to death in Pakistan for reporting her rape, and was only freed after a public outcry.

    http://tinyurl.com/2a3rz84

    Abu Salamaah

    You are the perfect example of why the world would be a much better place without Islam.

  233. Amit says:
    May 22nd, 2010 4:12 pm

    @Abu Salamaah

    What do you think of this rendition by Ustad Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan of a hymn by the Sikh Guru Sri Angad Dev:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZy-wK5nC0&feature=related

    Do you think your interpretation of the Quran is supreme? Perhaps you should pay heed to this addition by Nusrat Sahab while singing the hymn:

    “Aql mein jo ghhir gaya laa-intehaa kyun kar hua
    Jo samajh mein aa gaya phir wo Khuda kyun kar hua ”

    Lyrics and meanings here: http://forum.spiritualindia.org/koi-bole-ram-ram-koi-khudae-with-lyrics-meaning-t25041.0.html

    Much love,
    Amit

  234. paul says:
    May 22nd, 2010 6:14 pm

    Respectfully, I think you’ve missed the point of the protest that the page signifies. It is more about protecting free speech than inciting Muslims. If it were a fringe Christian, Scientologist, or Manchester United group that threatened violence for expression of free speech, we’d protest against them. The aim of the page isn’t to offend Muslims for sadistic pleasure, it’s to point out how nonsensical and destructive taking such offense is, to whoever threatened violence.

    Further, you have fundamental human rights when you are born into this world. One of those rights is _not_ that you are allowed to go by without ever being offended, or having your most cherished beliefs challenged. The world will not (and should not) edit the free exchange of ideas just because it makes you (whoever “you” happens to be) a little uncomfortable.

  235. May 23rd, 2010 1:44 am

    I don’t get why is it giving fits to many if people of Pakistan themselves decided to register their protest and removed account and LHC endorsed it? People are protesting peacefully. Does not democracy give right to them? Millions of people protested against Iraq war in West, are they all lunatic? Are they all extremist? France imposed ban on scarf? So how come that does violate freedom to practice a religion?

    Don’t people in Western world protest against something? And Kiya kaho Adil mian ka double standards ko. Adil why does not you use same tone against Tribal terrorists? Why does not you recall Muhammad when people asked to negotiate with Taliban terrorists? Just like Western terrorists imposing their views, similarly Taliban do the same, so how come one be so polite and apologetic for a cabal and aggressive for other?

    And as I mentioned before, why are you using Muhammad for your own sake? Muhammad even asked to offer salat, spread Islam(Dawah) and various other things, how come Muhammad Vanished all of sudden for those matters? Tsk tsk Adil. I am sure even you would be feeling guilty to use Muhammad like that.

    Iqbal though said for Mullahs of his times but it perfectly fits well for today’s liberals:


    Khud badaltay nahin Quran ko badal detay hain

    Huway kis darja faqeehaan e haram bay-taufiq

  236. May 23rd, 2010 2:08 am

    @Paul:

    As Kashif Aziz of Chowrangi.com said on BBC:

    “There’s a difference between freedom of speech and freedom to offend”.

    As I read somewhere:


    your right to free speech ends where it steps on someone else’s right. Just like my right to swing my arm ends before it connects with your nose.

    How true!. I am free to stay in Pakistan or any part of the world but I don’t have right to force my siblings to go where I go. Second what I have learnt that most of atheists are away from civilization. Since they don’t respect any religion hence naturally they don’t know how to give respect to others.

    Third thing, you non-Muslims MUST realize that Muslims are more touche about their Prophet than you guys would be for your girl friends or wives. Heck Even Muslims are more sensitive about their Prophet than their girl friends and wives.

    For you religion is a Sunday School that you go in Church and that’s it. For Us Religion is practiced all time,24 hours a day. If I am giving a smile to my parents early in the morning, I am rewarded equivalent to reward of a Hajj. If I am removing stones and other obstacles from road while going office, I am being rewarded infinite times for that action. If I am saying Salam while entering in office, those who reply me,all of their rewards is multiplied by my own action. If I am asking my peer first before starting the meal, I am being rewarded. If I am saying Allah’s name before starting my work, my 9-5 job automatically converted into prayer. Heck! even if I am going toilet and say the “Dua” to enter in Bathroom, i performed a prayer hence got reward.

    So kindly learn to make difference between other faiths and Islam. In Islam, more is emphasized on Human rights than God’s rights and this is why Muhammad(saw) had to say that He would prefer to destroy Kaaba(Muslim’s Holy place) than to break a heart. Now this single statement clarifies what Islam is all about. Whether Islam is true or a fake religion, I don’t give a damn but bring one faith on earth which have all such qualities and mind you I was just talking about “features” which pertain to individual. I did not even talk about How Islam talks about good governance and how Islam is more secular than secularism which exist in books today. I think, there’s some reason many non-Muslims have been embracing Islam. We born Muslims are usually ignorant about own religion and have no idea about its beauty, ask those who later embraced Islam, one would find a clear difference b/w them and us.

    Even those cartoonists understand Islam better than us that’s why they are doing all such thing. Ironically a jew know about Islam more than a self-acclaimed Muslim. I was surprised when I read some “Moeen”‘s comment when he told that Muhammad would already got ‘Muqam-e-Mehmood” and Muslims should take care of them first. I wonder how many Muslims even have a clear idea of Muqam-e-Mehmood? Atleast I don’t have…

    So don’t read Islam thru eyes of ignorant Muslims. You should study it to know what it is and why it’s unique. No wonder media which is usually controlled by my fellow Abrahamic faith;Judaism will never like to promote Islam in Good faith because after all their monopoly was tarnished when God appointed a prophet which did not belong to tribes of Issac and Jacob hence they have to do this anyway.

    why freedom of speech is exercised on Islam only? Why doesn’t anyone make cartoons of Shiv,Om or Krishna? Why does not one mock Buddhism? I mean there is something which those fanatics know. I see such attempts as signs of weakness and helplessness. They used Wars, they declared Islam as a terrorist religion yet Islam spread more. They called our Madrassahs as hub of terrorism and used our “Mir sadiqs” aka Liberals as puppet to promote the idea, they failed, They ridiculed Islamic laws yet they failed. So I think such cartoon row and other future incidents are more exposing the failure of Western world.

    It was iraq war that turned to a “liberal” guy like me to study Quran while in my 25 years of life till 2003 , I had just finished Quran only twice and that too without translation. Thanks to Mr.Bush,s war on terror that converted to a liberal guy like me to a person who later read entire Quran with translation and studied other things. Keep practicing such freedom of speech stunts, you are not only converting non-Muslims to Muslims but converting “away from religion” Muslims like me towards Islam. As Allah said in Quran:


    They plotted and schemed, but so did GOD, and GOD is the best schemer(3:54)

  237. Bilal Ahmed says:
    May 23rd, 2010 4:08 am

    I agree to all what was said by Abu Salmah with verses of Qura’n and Hadiths, but I would like to tell him that Qur’an orders us to talk with Non-Muslims (people of book) with most possible polite way, you called them filth, you are not a follower of Islam and Prophet (pbuh) when you do so. If you called those cartoonists filth, then yes they are, but you post shows that you divide mankind in Muslims and “filth”, which is again un-Islamic as according to Islam, mankind is divided in Muslims and Non-Muslims, this division in also only based on faith, otherwise in eyes of equality and justice, we are all one. I am also impressed with Non-Muslims’ attitude in replies, you are hasty to condemn and criticize Abu Salmah but you didn’t answer my questions on page 28, good choice, I must say, and positive attitude too.

    Love and Respect :)

  238. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 23rd, 2010 4:18 am

    Adil,why did you remove my comment in which I said freedom is not absolute?

    There are sites which are banned in Pakistan like “Haq Chaar Yaar” and several other anti-Shia Sites? There are videos which re banned in which Rafidians(current Shias) history has been discussed but they were removed from youtube. I am sure Alqaeda might ask to lift the ban on all sites which promote their agenda

    Please tell me why there is double standard? If Internet is free for All then it MUST be free for All.

  239. Naveed Abbas says:
    May 23rd, 2010 4:37 am

    Dear Mr. Adil Njam.
    Its a poignant post.

    Remembering Iqbal here:

    Yae raaz kesi koo nahin maloom k Momin
    Qari nazr atta hai haqeqat mein hai Quran

    Best Practices is the name of the game.

    Regards

  240. Imran Nasrullah says:
    May 23rd, 2010 7:01 am

    I could not agree more with your assessment! Muslims – and increasingly Pakistanis – seem to be their own worst enemies; and because we are so thin skinned we let our inflammatory emotions get out of control. If anything, we have shown these sanctimonious hypocrites how predictable we are. We are like the metaphorical hornet nest that everyone likes to insert a stick into because they know we will get angry. Patience and perseverance in the face of hardship is the biggest lesson Prophet Muhummad (PBUH) taught, and evidently we have forgotten.

  241. Imran Nasrullah says:
    May 23rd, 2010 7:15 am

    The freedom of expression and speech always seems to used to school Muslims, yet I find that some of the biggest censors of free speech are often the putative proponents of it. I recall this same pattern with the publishing of Satanic Verses, and I also recall the British Gov’t banning the writings of pro-IRA authors, or writings that supported the thesis of the IRA at around the same time. I mean if you really want to fight back through free speech, write a cogent argument for the case against radicalism instead of offending people and throwing “free speech” in their face.

  242. Uni says:
    May 23rd, 2010 7:36 am

    @me

    Perhaps you haven’t heard about Aisha Ibrahim, the 13 year old girl who was stoned to death in Somalia by Islamic extremists for reporting her rape at the hands of three men?

    Or Zafran Bibi who was sentenced to death in Pakistan for reporting her rape, and was only freed after a public outcry.

    Consider this. If there is mobile snatching on the roads of Karachi, illegal money laundering by the highest political circles of Pakistan, target killings in the city where little kids, mere four years old, die without a reason — even THEN I wouldn’t say that these acts are allowed in Islam, or are part of Islam.

    Similarly, if there is a rape case, which is taken to be a Zina case under the Shariah Law, and the victim unjustly punished – then too, this doesn’t prove that it’s advocated in Islam. Islam has clear laws regarding the an act of coercion and an act of mutual consent. You cannot mix the two on the basis of incidents of gross misinterpretation of Islam.

  243. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 23rd, 2010 9:33 am

    A world which happily embraces drone attacks,3rd degree torture and Gitmo jail does not sound good to tell me what I speak about Islam or not.

  244. Pakistani says:
    May 23rd, 2010 12:35 pm

    Adil, I am OK if they ban FB but only if you will also bad Adnan Siddiqi leaving his moronic messages here!

    Can you please spare us all and moderate him out of here please. Why do you keep tolerating this troll.

  245. Bilal Ahmed says:
    May 23rd, 2010 1:06 pm

    @ Salman

    Not all of us are advocating “peaceful” reply to those filthy cartoonists, I want to make it clear that I want death of those people, but tell me how practically can we do this? We Muslims are living in center of this planet earth, even then we 1.5 billion ineffectual fools cannot bring any harm to our enemies who are guilty of mass massacre of Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan, we cannot bring any harm to those enemies of Prophet (pbuh) who tried to insult him in most disgusting manner. All world’s all type of traffic, be it oil traffic, trade or passengers, pass through our lands, air and seas and even then if we are not united and do not answer them unitedly, shame on us, being Muslims. If Muslims put a ban on oil supply to west and put a ban on every type of traffic from east to west, in how many days do you think, those advocates of their retarded type of “freedom of expression” would give up and accept that insulting religion and religious heads is not acceptable? But we would not do this, you know why? Because we are ineffectual fools and we only know how to talk but we do not know how to act. We are afraid that if we would do this we would have to face a new crusade, as if now we are living in complete “peace and harmony”. I ask what would happen if we do so? They would attack some more Muslim countries? What else they are doing? It is better to answer them once unitedly then being hit one by one. They are tired in Iraq and Afghanistan and cannot afford a new front, so I don’t think so that if we do what I suggested they would attack us, but I know we wouldn’t, because we are ineffectual fools. I am utterly disappointed.

  246. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 23rd, 2010 1:26 pm

    @Pakistani: LOL!

    Ironically *trolling* is officially embraced by this site. Don’t you see Adil Najam creates a new post every time a bomb blasts and discusses same one sided rants? so why my *trolls* are hurting you.

    Yes please spare them all as I am just exposing the fragile side of those who are yet not able to decide whether they follow a religion or a “belief” which keeps them safe in West.

  247. Salman says:
    May 23rd, 2010 2:10 pm

    After what Abu Salama revealed, everybody has the right to kill without trial.. drone attacks, 3rd degree torture at Gitmo, u name it..

    are people against violent behavior just because it isn’t in fashion these days ?? what about adherence to religion ??

    @Pakistani:
    There is a difference between banning Facebook and banning some person here..

    regarding facebook, we are banning OURSELVES from using it.. regarding a person, we will be banning them from accessing the blog..

    so if you agree with the Facebook ban, you should somehow ban yourself from being able to read Adnan’s post.. and then we will all show “respect” to you .. :P

  248. Uni says:
    May 23rd, 2010 2:47 pm

    @Adnan, Uni…

    No matter how much you give your self-created lectures on Islam, Abu Salama’s true depiction of what Islam really is about is what we really need to honestly look at .. He was the only one who was not apologetic about the religion ..

    Your argument isn’t valid here. Why?

    1. Abu Salama talked about a particular incident of Islam. But this was not the norm. So a reference to context is needed here.

    2. The other side of the spectrum is where total forgiveness was meted out to the perpetrators at the time of Conquest of Mecca.

    This situation lies somewhere in the middle. And that is the reason why we’re frankly (not apologetically) talking about a protest, yes. But a peaceful one.

    This post is against the very act of protesting and/or banning etc. It talks about NO reaction (or a dialogue). The Muslims tried the ‘reporting’ (one extreme mentioned above – it could have been forgotton, had FB taken action) way and when it didn’t work, then they resorted to protesting (somewhere nearer the other extreme but not quite).

  249. Amber says:
    May 23rd, 2010 2:49 pm

    Apart from a few trolls who keep flooding the board with many messages (to attract traffic to their own sites or to fool people), the fact is that most Pakistanis and Muslims here have been giving a consistent message. The FB page was hateful, but the best approach is to ignore it and do with the Prophet did, exhibit tolerance.

  250. Tauqeer says:
    May 23rd, 2010 3:03 pm

    Excellent article. Hats off to Adil Najam.

    P.S. Moderators, can we please stop people from repeating the same point again and again and again in the comments, just wastes everyone’s time.

  251. Seriously says:
    May 23rd, 2010 3:29 pm

    I think this was all manufactured by Pakistani social websites as a way to boost their own traffic :-)

  252. Zeb says:
    May 23rd, 2010 4:00 pm

    I think it is time to move on. Done. Over. Now lets please get back to more important issues.

  253. Cheetah says:
    May 23rd, 2010 4:36 pm

    Absolutely right.
    The worse part is that we do not understand that even our noble intentions go right into the drain by reacting like this.
    Just undue publicity to a almost non event

  254. ANOTHER PAKISTANI says:
    May 23rd, 2010 8:40 pm

    @Paul says
    “It is more about protecting free speech than inciting Muslims.”

    To defend freedom of speech and not to offend others, I dare you to put up a page for “everybody say Nig.er day”, or “everybody deny holocaust day” or “everybody draw child porn day”.

    The facebook page is the clearest evidence that Racism today is only acceptable against Muslims. How fast did they shutdown the holocaust deniers page? less than a day?

  255. Rasheed says:
    May 23rd, 2010 9:42 pm

    (or you might as well say, “crazy” Rasheed, since my voice might be the minority voice not so much in agreement with Mr. Najm’s stance)

    I agree with blocking the facebook website. I didn’t know Pakistan could even do so. Tomorrow, get ready for someone portraying our beloved Prophet in some (Na’oozubillah) compromizing position bordering on pornography. I would certainly want to protect my children from visiting such a site. Already, there is no dearth of what the western internet spews, regarding his (Peace Be Upon him) marriage with Hadhrat ‘Aiyshah (Raziallahu Anha).

    It is true that we should be tolerant and polite, but not always when our Prophet (pbuh) is attacked just for the sake of it. Remember the battles during his life – the Sahabah would take direct hits from enemy arrows upon their bare hands shielding his holy face from the onslaught of the arrows, till their hands would get perforated.

    So, blocking the site is a mild message and befitting response. Responding with a bomb would be certainly wrong.

    The west’s response to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s recent call for a fresh attempt at researching the alleged holocaust is still fresh in our memories. If they can declare criticism of ordinary jews, or their views, hate speech, why can’t we at least express symbolic outrage to attempts at desecrating our most holy personage ever.

    Sorry for a different view from those of most readers of this website. I may be wrong but wanted to speak out any way.

  256. Ravi says:
    May 23rd, 2010 11:35 pm

    If you are prone to conspiracy theories syndorome, this incident is an attempt by Facebook management to get cheap publicity at the expense of Muslim religious sentiments. I really don’t belive the Facebook crooks are saints. Islam is supposed to be the least ritualistic religion, but not any more. Rotten apples like Tali-qeda fanatics destroyed the image is Islam beyond repair. There was a recent blog entry about – Two suicide killers, hiding behind burqas, murdered more than 40 plus helpless IDP’s . That article received just 8000 views and this article already received 18,000 views, 250 comments. Facebook billionaires
    only care about their pockets. Don’t forget that.

  257. libertarian says:
    May 24th, 2010 12:50 am

    The facebook page is the clearest evidence that Racism today is only acceptable against Muslims.

    Muslims are a race now? Fascinating.

    If you had a whiff of a clue you’d figure out you’re not really the center of the universe. And most normal people do not have a day to waste “inciting” you. But it is morbidly fascinating to watch for unhealthily interested people like myself.

  258. umer says:
    May 24th, 2010 3:49 am

    hey stupid,s rn,t u a muslim?????????
    bhaio b one if facebook barked against us boycott it plz

  259. Saba Kamran says:
    May 24th, 2010 8:14 am

    Awesome post as usual! :) That is exactly how I feel… He (PBUH) for whom we are doing all these things, would have never resorted to them himself.

  260. Saba Kamran says:
    May 24th, 2010 8:14 am

    Awesome post as usual! :) That is exactly how I feel… He (PBUH) for whom we are doing all these things, would have never resorted to these things himself.

  261. Hiralious Hira says:
    May 24th, 2010 9:46 am

    You have me convinced that the reaction should have been planned well.
    HOWEVER…if it causes them a monetary loss, as it has..then don’t you think its good? we are doing something ? it pays them well….!
    all the same, missing facebook a lot, no word from PTA as yet, when will the ban be lifted?

  262. Ali says:
    May 24th, 2010 11:32 am

    Nice post. I responded to a friend of mine saying “it is just the beginning, kahan kahan tak, kiya kiya block karoo gay”. Honestly, I think we will see more of this. Basically we are playing their (or ours too?) game with their rules (e.g. freedom of speech) and on top of that members of their team have lot of hatred (which I don’t totally blame them for) towards Muslims.
    This is another sad picture of state of muslims in the world today, they dont have any effective mean to channel their views/protest. They can scream, jump up and down, block websites but nobody is paying attention as they are not significant enough.
    Funny side to this, why all of those muslims doing on that infidel’s website anyway? dont they have anything better to do :), even I am posting this message using infidel’s network.
    Take care.

  263. lida says:
    May 24th, 2010 1:19 pm

    this is my last post as I have banned internet from my life.

    facebook uses the internet to get to us. lets ban that also :)

  264. Mohammad Asim says:
    May 24th, 2010 3:05 pm

    These are the sentiments of a true Muslim. Thank your for writing what I am also feeling. This is the real Islam and the ideas of those shouting against this are the jahil ones.

  265. Faraz says:
    May 24th, 2010 3:27 pm

    I believe that ignoring this whole issue or finding a different appropriate approach would have been the best option but only for the reason that Prophet Muhamamd (PBUH) himself had done the same. For many it should have been ignored (or not protested) because of the free speech culture in West. Unfortunately I am unable to find basis to this claim.

    All western countries which support such acts in the name of freedom of expression (with exception of US) have some sort of laws that don’t allow even academic discussion on certain aspects of holocaust.

    US has similar history. Screens Actors Guild with help of FBI was boycotting/ blacklisting some of the most talented hollywood personals because of their views during cold war. Just few years ago Dixie Chick faced backlash and threats after expressing their views on Bush policies and were banned from many radio stations. Even American Red cross refused donation from them. There are countless other similar examples involving media and politicians as well.

    Facebook itself has blocked holocaust denial pages multiple times which alone is enough to put this “free speech” myth to rest.

    So while disagreeing with the ways Muslims are reacting, please don’t use this freedom of expression term. From a Muslim’s perspective if there is even a single taboo in West, their reasoning is flawed. From a Westerner’s perspective if drawing caricatures is right in the name of freedom then there shouldn’t be any exception.

    And also please don’t forget that any non-violent protest including boycott is part of free expression itself. Whether its effective or not is a different matter.

    On a lighter note all this reminds me of a quote from “Shutup & Sing” that “Freedom of speech is fine as long as you don’t do it in public” …. :)

  266. Al Boswell says:
    May 24th, 2010 5:33 pm

    As an ordinary American who does not really follow any religion much, let me just say that I do not support the type of hate mongering that is happening with this facebook page. I am glad that you are all speaking out and that you are using words and not violence. Beat them by reason and beat them by love. Thanks

  267. Salman says:
    May 24th, 2010 6:25 pm

    Just that we banned “ourselves” from facebook..

    we didn’t ban facebook..

    that is to put simply.. ridiculus.. but then what else can you come up in a highly charged emotional state .. that too from the country’s judiciary..

    we are in dire need of cartoons of ourselves .. may work as a mirror..

  268. Atif says:
    May 24th, 2010 6:36 pm

    Excellent article and analysis of that issue. Sensitivities can only be cured through wisdom and patience which we Muslims unfortunately don’t practice too much.

  269. readinglord says:
    May 24th, 2010 9:02 pm

    @Saba

    How could he the PBUH could have done that when there was no Internet then and even Allah had to communicate through the angels. What a pity the computer age issues are being governed by camel age mindsets.

  270. readinglord says:
    May 24th, 2010 9:22 pm

    @Bilal

    Don’t you think they can deliver nuclear bombs through DRONEs? But they won’t do that because they need you and you are running to them even at the risk of your life.

  271. pakistani atheist says:
    May 24th, 2010 9:31 pm

    you said it mr najim, but what about “freedom of speech” what about “freedom of press” what about “freedom of expression” i guess you never heard of that…
    i laugh when you wrote about articles on lack of freedom in pakistan and now you are complaining of too much freedom, i been to that page and i found that page “funny” a childish act by its creator…here is the problem with “muslim” world and espcially pakistani muslims who thinks they are better than every one els in the world and whole world revolves around them and sir you are no different from them either. we can cretisize politition but not religious figuers and why not? everything in islam is punished by death anyway, sir instead of complaing about facebook you should look under your own bed i bet you will never post this letter on your comments page and here you are feeling pity on yourself…lol….you yourself cherry pick teachings in islam so why not choose freedom of expression as well and among other unislamic things that you justify, justify freedom of thought also. by the way lady who banned internet i wonder how she post comments online maybe by prayer…lol..goodby sir….

  272. Abida Hameed says:
    May 24th, 2010 10:40 pm

    Assalamu Alaikum
    I only saw this now and I must say this is the single best and the most ISLAMIC response. Indeed, we should learn from our Prophet (saw) in all things. Indeed, his path was the path of tolerance.

    Well said Prof. Najam. Thank you.

    Wassalam

  273. Frank says:
    May 24th, 2010 10:41 pm

    Good stuff. This is the sensible approach, always. Glad to see that most Muslims are acting so responsibly and not falling to the extreme. I wish those who made this page could do the same.

  274. Debugger says:
    May 25th, 2010 9:39 am
  275. Adnan Siddiqi says:
    May 25th, 2010 2:10 pm

    Awab alvi conducted a poll and according to the poll, majority is in favor of ban

    http://twtpoll.com/gai283

    India Times also cites another post:(70% Pakistani is in favor of ban)

    http://bit.ly/bZnvRA

    It seems BiBi was right: Democracy is the best revenge.

  276. Page Faulkner Mordecai says:
    May 25th, 2010 10:55 pm

    RE: ‘Everybody Deny the Holocaust Day’: A Meta-spectacle of Human misery

    This has become a spectacle now. Well, it was already a spectacle with EBDMD, but now it’s been escalated to a Meta-spectacle!

    I thought we got past that after the twentieth-century—one of the most violent centuries, at least in recent history. It’s ALL wrong; so, you know that most of the world knows this, right?

    While I do see the backlash connection with ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day,’ etc. One offense against humanity (seems to) deserves another.

    An eye-for-an-eye: I get it. This is where the reactionaries step in and (rightly or wrongly) fight back. It’s a fringe thing on the internet, which will bring-on more rioting and violence.

    Maybe, after all is said and done, it will all awaken humanity at last; and, we’ll all have learned a valuable lesson and furthered ‘truth’ in the face of fundamentalist extremists. I doubt it.

    On the one hand, hand, I saw nothing about EBDMD that furthered truth or humanity –just extremism. Most of us, around the world, were horrified and humiliated for every Muslim and non-Muslim alike who were forced to witness that ignorant event.

    Well, except for the national bloggers, like Dan Savage, a leftist, fundamentalist extremist who managed to hijack a cartoon drawn by an apologetic cartoonist and fuel an international firestorm that created maelstrom and censorship, world-wide.

    Now, with the proposed “Everybody Deny the Holocaust Day,’ I see nothing that will further the truth or humanity either—just a knee-jerk reaction to ignorance by right-wing fundamentalist extremists who want to prove what we already know: humans can be crazy and ignorant.

    I have visited Dauchau, in Germany. As you enter the death camp there is a sign that reads: ‘Arbeitet Machen Sie Frei!’ (‘Work Makes you free!’)

    And from there, you witness tourists at Dauchau taking photos of their families posed around the ‘gas showers’ and the ‘ovens,’ seemingly oblivious to the atrocities that occurred there.

    How exactly does an event like ‘Everybody Deny the Holocaust Day’ equalize the ignorance of ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day?”

    If I thought that this event would finally awaken humanity from denial; and, so oblivious to the past, I would fervently support it. If I thought that this event would promise respect for what is sacred, I would support it.

    But I doubt it will even the score. It will only inflame fundamentalist extremists, both from the right and left, while the rest of us watch in horror.

    Meanwhile, humanity will remain ignorant, because violence begets violence. Hasn’t the world shed enough tears already?

    This is a Mega-spectacle of human misery!

    Would God or Allah or Jesus Christ, or the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) see this as an act of wisdom, or as an act of the ego?

    Although I am not a dogmatically religious person, I do recall what Jesus Christ said while being nailed to the cross: “Forgive them, father. They know not what they do!”

    I say: ‘Live and let live.’ Literally, please!

    This would be the greatest act of truth and humanity that any of us could perform.

    Page Faulkner Mordecai, professor
    and writer for “The Front Porch Talker”

  277. May 26th, 2010 9:50 am

    Facebook should be banned forever in all muslim countries

  278. May 26th, 2010 1:50 pm

    ThankGod they lifted ban from youtube, now will have 50% less narazy bazi and debates regarding censorship

  279. May 26th, 2010 4:11 pm

    It is beyond any doubt a very very sensitive issue as it revolves around our Prophet (pbuh).
    “Yes” we are offended by this devilish act. Not even a single muslim on the face of earth can deny this. But the question is, how to deal with this in firt hand.
    We surely have mishandled it in every aspect. The question is what have we done to avert this in future. ‘NOTHING”. Rather our childish reaction to this episode has made it a headline.
    The need of the time is to educate non Muslims on Islam. I have read a lot on this issue published internationally, in various blogs and sites. Surprisingly found very few Muslims who are trying to confront non Muslims on Intellectual grounds.Hilariously, 99% comments from Pakistanis are nothing but abuses and it saddens me. We are making a fun of ourselves by posting such comments. If you me or us wants to do something to save Sanctity of our Prophet, we have to act in a much mature manner. THINK
    Rehan bin Iftikhar
    http://www.chitchatwithrehan.blogspot.com

  280. Rizwan says:
    May 27th, 2010 4:51 am

    Mr Najam, you seem to be quite sure that the creators of the page attained their goal through the protests of the Muslims,, Are you one of those creators?

    dear, when something goes wrong, you should at least raise a voice against it and do not remain deaf and dumb like Saudi Arabia and other so called Muslim countries. It was only due to Pakistan’s ban on facebook which compelled the organizers of facebook to remove this page.

    Great job done by Pakistanis. Keep it up

  281. May 28th, 2010 4:53 am

    Dear All,

    Just one thing I just like to say for the creator of this topics or those who are behind this.

    Always it happens like this:

    They are shouting for human rights: They are breaking ALL over the world, Afganistan, Iraq and so on.

    They are shouting for freedom of life: But they just simply break it by offensive topics like this one.

    And they are the people who made “Guantamo”.

    I must no HATE them but I HATE their word vs works.

    Thanks.

  282. May 28th, 2010 8:58 am

    i have been trying to post a comment here but always get a reply that it seems its duplicate. i even cannot view my comments posted here too. Can you please guide me regarding this

  283. Humanoid says:
    May 28th, 2010 11:22 am

    Well this issue has the same dimensions as Salman Rushdie’s book. Being an emotional lot, we showed a reaction the west wanted us to show. Do you think they care? they will just show the images of us burning effigies and American flags. Rest of us will still be watching Hollywood, Bollywood, bribing and what not! That is all alright, but facebook cannot do this and Salman should not have done that!
    Being in avid reader, i read a renowned British writer denouncing Salman that he was not a writer worthy of any praise but got famous by ridiculous reactions by Muslims. Imagine if the world had not reacted to Salman Rushdie’s book, would people have given a hoot about him? He wanted quick fame, and he got it! West gave him protection (remember the phrase West is west and east is east and ..) like west has given protection to Altaf’s Nawaz’s Khar’s and so on! Whom we all vote!
    I visited the page on facebook, had 13000 pictures, out of which 10000 would have come because of our senseless reaction. If they had done that, and not a single muslim had visited the site nor had left a comment, tell me, what would have happened? Nothing! they would have failed in their attempt to arouse all of us. Sanity is what left us!
    Once in school a teacher of mine told us all that there are 2 ways to reach glory, a short quick way and the other longer, hard and time consuming path. He gave an example that of a person goes nude in a bazaar, he will be the talk of the town, instant fame! While if the same guy wants to get to the same spot via hard work, legitimate process, it will take him many years. He said that’s what Rushdie did and we were all his accomplices in his fame.
    Blaming west is senseless, they have achieved something that we did not. Always respect a worthy opponent and the need is to upgrade our selves to a level that they stop doing so!

  284. Sohaib says:
    May 29th, 2010 7:36 pm

    @ Adil Najam’s article… Adil I think you don’t have enough knowledge about Islam… Otherwise you wouldn’t have written this article… Secondly, I do agree that the way we protest is wrong.. but blocking the site wasn’t wrong.. Non muslims should know that making fun of Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) won’t be ignored… I hope one day the muslim ummah will unite so that non-muslims would think twice before doing such hideous acts. And please don’t compare us with the Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.), it is our duty to protect Prophet Muhammad’s (s.a.w.) name. We should make the non muslims understand how we respect Prophet Isa (a.s) Jesus, and how we respect Prophet Moosa (a.s) Moses, and in the same way they should respect our last prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.)

  285. Azheruddin says:
    May 30th, 2010 1:33 am

    Is it true that Facebook is now back on in Pakistan?

  286. May 30th, 2010 3:16 am

    A timely message indeed by Adil Najam.
    Banning sites doesn’t serve any purpose, neither do the large scale demonstrations on streets- burning tyres- forcing shopkeepers to shut down or to attack foreign owned banks , network cos. and other joint venture / multinational business concerns.
    We demonstrated against the caricatures by a Danish cartoonist but the same caricature is still on display on every Google image page once you enter the word ‘images, caricatures’. Now you can’t ban Google because it is such a powerful search engine that provides among other things information which all of us need in our day to day life. To my mind tools of the cyber world are like any other tool we use almost every day. We use a knife to cut up vegetables but the same knife can be used also to cut up throats of human beings. That’s the negative side of using that tool but you can’t ban a knife just because it is also being used by criminals to take human lives.

    So what we need is our own attitude towards the teachings and actions of the holy prophet. I think had the prophet been here amongst us, he would never have condoned the actions of these so called ‘prophet lovers’ for he was the man who pardoned even his arch enemies, he was the man who blessed even those persons who had subjected him to an extreme type of humiliation, pains and tortures. Unfortunately our actions are exactly opposite to what the prophet would have ordained under such circumstances [although his teachings are even today the most appropriate guidelines to follow].

    In this age of information when propaganda has turned into a high valued marketing tool [interestingly negative propaganda has many a times proved to bring positive results for the product or service itself], through our stupidity we have given an out of bound feedback to that particular page on facebook and this is exactly what the publisher of that page would have wished to.
    P. S.
    Thanks humanoid. You have very aptly said it too: “Blaming west is senseless; they have achieved something that we didn’t. We need to respect our opponents and need to elevate ourselves to a level that they think twice before indulging into such acts”.

    Nayyar Hashmey
    http://wondersofpakistan.wordpress.com/

  287. May 31st, 2010 1:15 am

    Facebook ban lifted by Lahore High Court. Fro Express Tribune:

    LAHORE: The Lahore High Court (LHC) lifted the ban on social networking website Facebook on Monday.

    The popular social networking website had been banned by Lahore High Court after a controversy over it hosting blasphemous caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

    Muslims across the world were offended by a Facebook page which declared May 20 a day to caricature Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Despite a growing surge of protests by Muslims, Facebook had opted not to remove the page.

    The court had temporarily banned the social networking site Facebook till May 31 across the country. It had issued the order after an Islamic forum of lawyers sought ban on access to the popular social networking site for holding a contest of drawing caricatures on Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

    The controversial page by the name “Draw Muhammad Day” had been created by a Facebook user in response to American cartoonist, Molly Noris’s protest to the decision of US television channel, Comedy Central to to cancel an episode of the popular show “South Park” over its depiction of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH).

    Noris had however disavowed having declared May 20 “Draw Muhammad Day” and had condemned the effort and issued an apology. The page was subsequently removed by the creator.

  288. Scott says:
    May 31st, 2010 2:08 pm

    One thing that globalisation (and facebook) shows us is the chasm between cultures.

    While your article speaks of a phobia of islam and bigotry (and those things certainly exist), the cultural divide really isn’t about anti-islamists vs. islam. It’s about the inherent problem of a post-religious culture (the west) co-existing with a religious culture.

    The reality is that secular westerners (either as individuals or as governments) do not recognise blasphemy of any religion as a crime. The vast majority of westerners do not recognise blasphemy to be wrong. Indeed, there is a philosophical tradition of critical thinking of religion (principally against christianity) dating back to the 18th century which has become integrated into the western psyche.

    This post-religious thinking doesn’t reflect a hatred of islam specifically. It’s simply secular.

    If another religion (say judaism or christianity) were to become as sensitive or hostile to western secularism as some muslims currently are, the focus of secular critique would shift to that religion.

    Part of your article appears to recognise this where you argue that if believers would simply ignore the taunts, the taunts would cease to exist. That’s probably right. At a minimum, they would cease to be effectual–by definition.

    Anyone with access to mainstream western television can see how secular western culture has become since the 18th century. It’s not islamophobic; it’s religiophobic.

    Where one side sees bigots and blasphemers, the other side doesn’t even know know what blasphemy is, as the concept no longer has any legal or moral meaning to them (and hasn’t for a couple of centuries).

    One of your readers argues that the only way correct this cultural divide is for westerners respect the prophet just as muslims respect jesus and moses. But this argument assumes that secular western culture respects the religions of jesus and moses. While these religions certainly exist with millions of western adherents, the western societies and legal systems in which they operate do not protect them against their blasphemers.

    It’s actually just the opposite…it is the secular blasphemers whose speech is protected by western secular law, not the hurt feelings of jews or christians.

    So we have the inherent conflict that occurs when one culture places the right to criticise religion (actually the right to criticise anything and anyone) above respect for religion, and another culture places respect of its religion above freedom of speech.

    In the west, the intensity of this conflict has largely dissipated, as jews and christians have become accustomed to living in a secular society which protects their right to worship, but also protects the rights of infidels and blasphemers.

  289. Johnny says:
    May 31st, 2010 4:09 pm

    Scott says:
    May 31st, 2010 2:08 pm
    One thing that globalisation (and facebook) shows us is the chasm between cultures….
    ==========================================
    Well said. And very well written.

    It is also true that the first Europeans that came to North America were looking for religous freedom. Lots of people were persecuted in their homeland, so they went to North America.
    Whenever I see disrespect toward ANY religion I turn away and say a prayer for those people that were disrespectful.
    Sometimes even the flag of the US is ripped apart or burned by people that don’t like the current government policy. That is also considered free expression. As far as the law is concerned nothing is sacred.
    On the other hand anyone may read from the Quran or the Bible on any street corner.
    The only expression forbidden in public is pornography and profanity.

  290. Rajesh says:
    May 31st, 2010 11:37 pm

    I agree with Scott when he points out that teh real intolerance comes from teh so-called “west”

    “If another religion (say judaism or christianity) were to become as sensitive or hostile to western secularism as some muslims currently are, the focus of secular critique would shift to that religion”

    What globalization has done is that it has brought many different cultures to the world stage and the West is struggling on how to deal with it. Because of its arrogance it cannot do so and you find these apologists from the West talking just like fundamentalist Muslims, as if ‘their’ way is the only right one. As if the US constitution is something the whole world should follow. The fact is that the West is in decline and globalization is ruled by other forces, mostly China and India and Muslims because of their numbers.

    As Scott points out, the West will have problem with any view that is different from it because West is incapable of tolerating others. Unfortunately for it, the West’s view is no longer the dominant one and is less and less important to the rest of the world. Luckily other emerging powers like India and China are far more tolerant.

  291. Aliya says:
    June 11th, 2010 6:21 am

    I agree totally with the sentiments in the original article. We should have just ignored this. But the fact is that there is also a growing intolerance in the west for anything that is not western. We certainly have serious tolerance problems ourselves, but the fact is that this was also an example of western tolerance.

  292. Larry says:
    June 11th, 2010 6:26 am

    The problem historically has been that everytime the west has tried to spread western ideas it has done so violently. Like when the westerners came to North America supposedly for “religious freedom” what they did was destroy (really kill) the real Americans. So the Americans of today are really the killers of original Americans. Everywhere where westernism has been spread, it has been spread violently. Different types of violence like the genocide of native americans, world wars, environmental disasters. But westernism is always dripping in blood.

  293. Tariq Ali says:
    June 13th, 2010 3:34 am

    Seems to me that there are more Pakistanis now back on FB than there were before all of this. I guess it was all good advertising for FB in Pakistan.

  294. Dilawar says:
    June 13th, 2010 4:51 am

    I just saw this. Hope I had seen it before. Excellent viewpoint and exactly as so many of us feel.

  295. Muhammad Asad says:
    June 13th, 2010 4:06 pm

    Unfortunately, there are too many jahils – amongst Muslims as well as non-Muslims – who want to just selectively take a few incidents out of context rather than looking at the larger message which is clearly one of tolerance, just like it is in every religion. I think the first responsibility is for us Muslims to ourselves follow the real message of peace of the Prophet, otherwise no one is going to believe us. This is why this is such a great article.

  296. Shabbir says:
    June 14th, 2010 3:58 am

    I have learnt that more a person talks about religion, the less likely he is to know anything about its essence. Those who actually have real faith do not go around agitating about it.

  297. Gul says:
    July 5th, 2010 7:02 pm

    So, can anyone explain to me please what good came out of this whole drama!

  298. Fayyaz Mahmood says:
    July 18th, 2010 8:35 am

    Muslims live all over the world. But most did not make so much hue and cry over these cartoons as we have done in Pakistan. Low literacy rate and poverty has made most of our population very emotional. Our population can be very easily manipulated in the name of Islam. Mullahs of all color and creed are fully aware of this Pakistani weakness and they exploit it to the hilt. This tendency has now risen to self destructive level. Now a days, all one needs to bring all of Pakistan to a halt is to take a few pages on which some Arabic words are written and burn them in front of a Mullah. Rest of the job will be done by zealots in Media. The whole nation will be propelled into a self destruct mode with in a few hours.

  299. maqsood says:
    July 18th, 2010 9:05 am

    Folks, we got another distinction. As per the reports generated by google trends, we top the list of deviant pornographic searches on internet:

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/12/data-shows-pakistan-googling-pornographic-material/

    I wonder if anyone is outraged by this or not!

  300. raheem says:
    August 23rd, 2010 4:47 am

    Powerful words. Yes, I also think that our anger is always out of control. One of the reasons i stopped posting comments on blogs was because no one wants a discussion, they just want to put the other person down. The badtameezi of our everyday life translates to this brutality when it goes totally out of hand.

  301. KK says:
    August 24th, 2010 5:35 am

    You are a voice of reason my friend. Well Said !

    How appropriate to ask. What would Hazrat Mohammed (PBUH) have done in this situation.

    You said it !

  302. maskeenel says:
    August 26th, 2010 1:50 pm

    How many centuries will be exhausted when the Muslims of the world will act like the Christians and say do what you want and say what you want you can’t hurt our Mohammad(PBUH). Christs name has been dragged through dirt by many even by the Muslims. But it doesn’t bother the Christians. Lets face it Islam is almost 600 years behind Christianity and one day they will catch the meaning of peace by not defending something or someone like the prophet(PBUH) and let his teachings do the defending. Till then we need to teach the uneducated.

  303. Liza says:
    September 2nd, 2010 4:29 am
  304. sufyan asghar says:
    November 30th, 2010 9:24 pm

    your right we must have to protest against them

  305. HUMMA says:
    December 4th, 2010 3:15 am

    MUHAMMAD (PBUH) DAY MUST BE CELEBRATE ON WORLD LEVEL,… THANX

  306. shabana says:
    December 10th, 2010 5:15 am

    What a super article u have written . U donot like what facebook is doing and u suggested that we just turned our face away and ignore those ignrant people . U also said” The one thing I am absolutely positive of, is that the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) would not have done what we are doing now: making an international public spectacle of ourselves. Most likely he would have just walked away and ignored (the ‘look the other way when someone throws garbage at you’ model), he might have negotiated with Facebook on the basis of their own stated rules (the Hudabia model), he might have reasoned with detractors (the discourse and discussion model). Nearly certainly Muhammad (PBUH) would have handled it with grace, with composure, and maybe even with a touch of good humor. Most importantly, the Prophet (PBUH) would have kept focusing on his own actions and proving his point with his own deeds rather than with slogans, banners and naara-baazi”.

    In the earlier paragraph u also said “Regardless of what your belief or religion might be, to throw out offensive and hateful vitriolic for the simple and primary purpose of hurting someone else’s feelings – when you know that (a) those feelings will be hurt and (b) when hurting those feelings is really the only purpose of doing what you are doing – is inhuman, cruel, and clearly offensive. ”

    Now i come to my point if u have such an honarable Christian like values forgiveness , patience and respect then why is a Pakistan citizen a poor Christian women being treated with so disrespect and cruelity. Her co-workers can degrade her ,insult her ,beat her becuse she touch the water and refuse to drink water from her hands saying its dirty becuse she is Christian and when she tries to defend her religion she was imprisioned under blasphemy law and now sentenced to death.

    Now what do u say is it not inhumane, cruel and clearly offensive.

  307. Razi says:
    March 14th, 2011 9:04 am

    The question in the title of this post is the one we should always ask. And if we did we will see that Muhammad (PBUH) would nearly always do the opposite of what the mullahs and Taliban want us to do. So, whose side are these mullahs on? Not Muhammad’s (PBUH).

  308. readinglord says:
    March 26th, 2011 6:30 am

    @Razi says:

    “The question in the title of this post is the one we should always ask. And if we did we will see that Muhammad (PBUH) would nearly always do the opposite of what the mullahs and Taliban want us to do. So, whose side are these mullahs on? Not Muhammad’s (PBUH).”

    Certainly! But what to do about their weird logic!

    The other day, I happened to see a talk show on blasphemy law on a TV channel. Speaking against the grant of forgiveness to the blasphemy accused on the analogy of the prophet having done that in a number of cases, a pro-BL mullah said that only the prophet had the right to do that which we , the Ummati, cannot do, i.e., to forgive any one guilty of blasphemy and this argument appeared to have clinched the discussion.

    The problem in fact is the antic of the mullah in that they install themselves as scions or inheritors (وارث) of the prophet as their expediency demands and treat them as ‘ummati’ (followers) when it suites them otherwise. They, however, never let go their prerogative to lead the prayers assuming themselves to be the inheritors of the prophet instead of standing in line with the namazies in general and thus blatantly defying the quranic injunction which says, “Warkaoo maarraakiein (Jhuko jhukne waalon ke saath)”.

    They are in fact self-styled ‘hangmen’ of Islam who do not believe in Islam of God who is ‘rehman and rahim’ and the prophet, who is ‘Rehmatulaalimin’ and the Blasphemy law is the main weapon by which they terrorize the people into submission. The BL, however , being a double edged sword, it does some time hit the mullah themselves. So beware and take care.

  309. May 31st, 2011 12:15 pm

    well written but what ur point is u r saying to ignore such things how it is possible??????

  310. July 2nd, 2011 4:28 am

    its is the worst freedom example that they wish to have and we will fight it again and again

Have Your Say (Bol, magar piyar say)