ATP Poll Results: Chief Justice Chaudhry Iftikhar’s Removal

Posted on March 16, 2007
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Adil Najam

Today Chief Justice Chaudhry Mohammed Iftikhar is to appear again in front of the Supreme Judicial Council (SJC). It is not at all clear what will happen today or in the days to follow. But the verdict from ATP readers does seem to be quite clear.


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The last week has been a whirlwind of disturbing development. Starting with the removal of Chief Justice Chaudhry Mohammad Iftikhar by the President, things just kept going from bad to worse. Protesting lawyers were mistreated, as was the Chief Justice, Minister Wasi Zafar embarrassed himself as well as the nation yet again, and most recently we saw that not just the judiciary but also the press is under stress as private TV channels are told to cool off and the GEO TV news show by Kamran Khan was banned.

We have tried to look at and make sense of these events fromvarious angles, including the poetic. But like Pakistanis everywhere we remain confused and concerned about the direction of events. Things seem to be spinning out of control. The government seems to be panicking. And public frustration with the turn of events is escalating.

But one thing is very clear. Much more clear, in fact, than one might have imagined. It is not just that these events have left Pakistanis rattled, it is also that the sacking of Chief Justice Chaudhry Mohammad Iftikhar is not supported by many – and possibly most – Pakistanis. At least this has been the result of the ATP Poll that we have been running the last many days and which we today closed. Notwithstanding the fact that this was not a scientific poll and was subject to all the (many) limitations and problems of web-based polls, this is a result one can be quite confident of. Indeed, one did not need to run a poll to come to this conclusion. It is obvious from the reaction of the lawyers, of judges, of shopkeepers, of the media, of bloggers, and just about everyone else. However, our poll results do strongly validate the all-too-evident view. Here are some highlights:

  • At the time of closing the Poll a total of 786 responses had been recorded (not including some 60 duplicate responses that were discarded).
  • Of these 625 votes – a whopping 80 per cent – believe that the decision to remove teh Chief Justice was a wrong one and an expression of abuse of power by the President.
  • Only 65 people – a mere 8 per cent – believe this to have been the right decision.
  • 96 votes – 12 per cent – were for the ‘Don’t Know’ option; signifying that these people wanted more facts before they made up their mind.
  • Votes were still trickling in at a steady pace when we closed the poll, but the interesting – and very surprising – finding is that the proportions for the three options have remained steady and nearly unchanged from the very beginning. Between 78-80% consider the decision wrong; around 8-9% consider it right. From the very beginning, this proportion never really changed even as events took many unforeseen twists and turns. (Compare this, for example, to our current cricket poll, where the response proportions have fluctuated widely over about the same period). This, in fact, is one reason why we closed the poll; it seems that what needs to be learned from it has been learnt – i.e., this decision is strongly rejected at least by the type of Pakistanis who woudl visit bogs like this!
  • If one looks at the comments that go with the various posts on the subject, it is very striking that many people say that they were Musharraf supporters but are no more; that this and other recent events have pushed them out of that camp. Indeed, it seems from the comments that this vote is more ‘against’ Gen. Musharraf than ‘for’ Chief Justice Iftikhar.

While one must never over-analyze such non-scientific web-based polls that necessarily give only a snapshot of a limited internet-savvy community, the rather decisive numbers and the content of the accompanying comments suggests that the result is, in fact, rather robust. Long time readers of ATP will also realize that although the reader participation has been very enthusiastic, excited and even emotional, for most part most people have actually been in strong agreement. Indeed, while this has been an emotional discussion, it has not been a confrontational or even controversial one!

To end on a personal note, I want to say something about comments of despair for Pakistan that some people left here or are being made at other blogs. I must confess, I do not feel despair. Indeed, I think ordinary public – particularly lawyers, but also others including bloggers – have demonstrated that at our core we as a society DO WANT DEMOCRACY. Earlier this evening I was giving a lecture at Harvard University (Kennedy School of Government) on democracy in Pakistan and there I introduced the notion that “Pakistan is a democratic society trapped inside an undemocratic state” and that “this moment we are living through right now is a quinessentially democratic moment; a moment of turbulence, but also of hope.”

While the abuse of democratic norms by state institutions should be rightly condemned, let us not forget to celebrate the courageous and honest demonstration of democratic values by societal forces, including the legal profession, journalists, and ordinary citizens. Ultimately, it is not as much a question of ‘who will win’ as a question of whether the societal urge for democracy will overwhelm the statal desire for control… and, in that process, transform the state.

P.S. This video news report clip from GEO includes Gen. Pervez Musharraf’s response to the current state of affairs. In fairness, we should also give this a hearing.

President Gen. Pervaiz Musharraf in Gujranwala
04:28
President Gen. Pervaiz Musharraf in Pakpattan
02:24

77 responses to “ATP Poll Results: Chief Justice Chaudhry Iftikhar’s Removal”

  1. MajorSahib says:

    13 constabils had been arristd today – they was culprut on their own account. Case of Geo is therefour sulved. Now drop this nonimpotent issue and is moveon.org.

  2. DB9 says:

    Please refrain from using negative language about our country on BBC & other foreign blogs, this is our internal matter and we will deal with it. Show positive language in fron of others please.

  3. Moeen Bhatti says:

    I get very low self esteem when I look at these pictures, I was born & raised in a country like this. This is the time for a revolution but again I get hopeless when I see no sincere leadership who have an ideology and a school of thought & something to ‘offer’ to people of Pakistan. I choosed an easy path, I left my country and settled in the West. But my heart bleeds, I can’t help that. May God send some ‘Moses’ in this dark period. Ameen.

  4. siham says:

    It is really ironic that Mushrraf sacked the Chief Justice of Pakistan without giving him the opportunity of being heard. This reminds me of a similar action taken by Nawaz Shaif, when he sacked Musharraf from the position of the Chief of Army Staff. Not only that Musharraf in violation of the constitution removed the Prime Minister, arrested him but also tried, charged and sentenced him of treason and conspiracy of murder. If I understand correctly, under the provisions of the constitution, any one who overthrows the elected government by way of coup is guilty of treason and liable for death penalty. Musharraf should have in fact been charged and tried for treason and not Nawaz Sharif. This is yet another coup by Musharraf, a judicial coup. If Musharraf is justified in taking the action against the Chief Justice then Nawaz Sharif was also right in sacking him.

    I am not pro Nawaz Sharif but can not help saying this that sacking of Mushararaf, right or wrong, was a legitimate action, taken by him, within the powers vested with him as the Prime Minister. The action taken by Musharraf on the other hand is illegal ab initio taken without lawful authority. The difference is that Musharraf is mighty powerful and strong, with the backing of the army whereas both, Nawaz Sharif and the Chief Justice, despite holding powerful positions, were weak and powerless, with no backing and support of their respective institutions. The whole army, supported Musharraf, even if some might have disagreed with him in their personal capacity, whereas Nawaz Sharif and the Chief Justice were betrayed and stabbed by their own people – politicians and the judiciary.

  5. Adil Najam says:

    Many people have seen this picture, published in The Nation. The original caption read:

    ISLAMABAD: Police ‘requesting’ suspended Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry to sit in the police car after he refused to do so – Photo by Sajjad Ali Qureshi.

    I was able to find this larger version of the picture (since earlier versions on the web were very small). I wanted to be see whether this is what it looks like. I know that it is standard police procedure most places in the world to keep a hand over someone’s head as they enter a car. Is this just that and made more incriminating than it is by the camera, or is this really police pulling at the Chief Justice’s hair, etc. I am still not fully sure. But it certainly does not look good!

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