Adil Najam
Mohammed Hanif, the brilliant author of the engrossing book “The Case of Exploding Mangoes†(I have been planning to write about it ever since I first read it many months ago; and I will) – known to many for his stint at Herald before he joined BBC’s Urdu Service – has just written a most cogent and readable op-ed in The Times of India which is wroth reading; whether you agree with it or not. It is a good argument as well as a good read. And I say that even thought there are more than one points here that I might quibble with. But before we quibble, lets give Mohammed Hanif the floor – and a full and proper hearing. Here is the op-ed he wrote in The Times of India, in full:
Ten Myths About Pakistan
Living in Pakistan and reading about it in the Indian press can sometimes be quite a disorienting experience: one wonders what place on earth they’re talking about? I wouldn’t be surprised if an Indian reader going through Pakistani papers has asked the same question in recent days. Here are some common assumptions about Pakistan and its citizens that I have come across in the Indian media.
1. Pakistan controls the jihadis: Or Pakistan’s government controls the jihadis. Or Pakistan Army controls the jihadis. Or ISI controls the jihadis. Or some rogue elements from the ISI control the Jihadis. Nobody knows the whole truth but increasingly it’s the tail that wags the dog. We must remember that the ISI-Jihadi alliance was a marriage of convenience, which has broken down irrevocably. Pakistan army has lost more soldiers at the hands of these jihadis than it ever did fighting India.
2. Musharraf was in control, Zardari is not: Let’s not forget that General Musharraf seized power after he was fired from his job as the army chief by an elected prime minister. Musharraf first appeased jihadis, then bombed them, and then appeased them again. The country he left behind has become a very dangerous place, above all for its own citizens. There is a latent hankering in sections of the Indian middle class for a strongman. Give Manmohan Singh a military uniform, put all the armed forces under his direct command, make his word the law of the land, and he too will go around thumping his chest saying that it’s his destiny to save India from Indians. Zardari will never have the kind of control that Musharraf had. But Pakistanis do not want another Musharraf.
3. Pakistan, which Pakistan? For a small country, Pakistan is very diverse, not only ethnically but politically as well. General Musharraf’s government bombed Pashtuns in the north for being Islamists and close to the Taliban and at the same time it bombed Balochs in the South for NOT being Islamists and for subscribing to some kind of retro-socialist, anti Taliban ethos. You have probably heard the joke about other countries having armies but Pakistan’s army having a country. Nobody in Pakistan finds it funny.
4. Pakistan and its loose nukes: Pakistan’s nuclear programme is under a sophisticated command and control system, no more under threat than India or Israel’s nuclear assets are threatened by Hindu or Jewish extremists. For a long time Pakistan’s security establishment’s other strategic asset was jihadi organisations, which in the last couple of years have become its biggest liability.
5. Pakistan is a failed state: If it is, then Pakistanis have not noticed. Or they have lived in it for such a long time that they have become used to its dysfunctional aspects. Trains are late but they turn up, there are more VJs, DJs, theatre festivals, melas, and fashion models than a failed state can accommodate. To borrow a phrase from President Zardari, there are lots of non-state actors like Abdul Sattar Edhi who provide emergency health services, orphanages and shelters for sick animals.
6. It is a deeply religious country: Every half-decent election in this country has proved otherwise. Religious parties have never won more than a fraction of popular vote. Last year Pakistan witnessed the largest civil rights movements in the history of this region. It was spontaneous, secular and entirely peaceful. But since people weren’t raising anti-India or anti-America slogans, nobody outside Pakistan took much notice.
7. All Pakistanis hate India: Three out of four provinces in Pakistan – Sindh, Baluchistan, NWFP – have never had any popular anti-India sentiment ever. Punjabis who did impose India as enemy-in-chief on Pakistan are now more interested in selling potatoes to India than destroying it. There is a new breed of al-Qaida inspired jihadis who hate a woman walking on the streets of Karachi as much as they hate a woman driving a car on the streets of Delhi. In fact there is not much that they do not hate: they hate America, Denmark, China CDs, barbers, DVDs , television, even football. Imran Khan recently said that these jihadis will never attack a cricket match but nobody takes him seriously.
8. Training camps: There are militant sanctuaries in the tribal areas of Pakistan but definitely not in Muzaffarabad or Muridke, two favourite targets for Indian journalists, probably because those are the cities they have ever been allowed to visit. After all how much training do you need if you are going to shoot at random civilians or blow yourself up in a crowded bazaar? So if anyone thinks a few missiles targeted at Muzaffarabad will teach anyone a lesson, they should switch off their TV and try to locate it on the map.
9. RAW would never do what ISI does: Both the agencies have had a brilliant record of creating mayhem in the neighbouring countries. Both have a dismal record when it comes to protecting their own people. There is a simple reason that ISI is a bigger, more notorious brand name: It was CIA’s franchise during the jihad against the Soviets. And now it’s busy doing jihad against those very jihadis.
10. Pakistan is poor, India is rich: Pakistanis visiting India till the mid-eighties came back very smug. They told us about India’s slums, and that there was nothing to buy except handicrafts and saris. Then Pakistanis could say with justifiable pride that nobody slept hungry in their country. But now, not only do people sleep hungry in both the countries, they also commit suicide because they see nothing but a lifetime of hunger ahead. A debt-ridden farmer contemplating suicide in Maharashtra and a mother who abandons her children in Karachi because she can’t feed them: this is what we have achieved in our mutual desire to teach each other a lesson.
So, quibble if you will. But do tell us what you think about the argument that Hanif is making.
Aamir:
“Indeed this is a Pakistan-related forum. If that is your defense then what are you, an Indian, doing here? If you Indians do bother to post on Pakistan related forums, why do you bring India-centric and barely hidden anti-Islamic views here ? Do you think you are going to find any takers?”
Farrukh:
“Unfortunately, this and some other posts are being highjacked by our visitors from India. I have seen this happen before at ATP. They come, they get excited about the forum and then they lose sight of forum rules and the fact that they should respect the subject of the post. I would request everyone to please respect the rules and traditions of the form. It is really annoying when someone tries to take teh whole discussion in a totally different direction.”
And as a non Pakistani who visits ATP often, I have seen this type of remonstration all too often from some commentators about supposedly India-centric commentators, “anti-Pakistani” elements hijacking threads, even if the comments in question aren’t even saying half the things that they are alleged of saying. I haven’t read any of Arjun’s posts, but your comments strike me as ridiculous. Do you propose that ATP start asking someone’s nationality before they can comment? Instead of Spam protection, maybe there should be a box to check off “Pakistani,” “Non-Pakistani” or “Indian”.
Blog posts are often the only means for people from opposite corners of the world–let alone two neighbors– to interact, state their opinions, and even take a discussion in different directions. As long as they are not personal attacks and the ATP moderators do not intervene (like Prof Najam), I see no reason why some commentators should police threads.
@ Arjun and Amir
I agree with the general gist of Arjun’s post. This to me appears to be mostly and a healthy and an open discussion, However if someone feels slighted or we visitors appear to smack of anti-Pakistan bias, then sincere apologies. That is not the intent of this writer.
I only disagree with Arjun regarding the following lines:
“You will be surprised to know that there are 1 billion Indians in the world, and probably as many views and opinions held by them on a single subject”.
I believe the Indian politicians (especially Haryanavi ones) feel it is their constitutional right to have more than one view on each topic so that it can suit the need of the hour ;-)).
@ Bloody Civilian and Bonobashi :
You both are hilarious and should write a screen play for a joint movie.
Indeed this is a Pakistan-related forum. If that is your defense then what are you, an Indian, doing here? If you Indians do bother to post on Pakistan related forums, why do you bring India-centric and barely hidden anti-Islamic views here ? Do you think you are going to find any takers?
Aamir Ali, a humble request to you is to get past the fact that I have the crime of being Indian and just read my posts dispassionately and judge them on the merit of their content rather than on the person’s nationality.
Being Indian should not preclude me from being interested in any country in the world, let alone a neighbour like Pakistan, to visit its discussion forums, to comment on articles or to participate in discussions. Since I have never once brought India, Hindu beliefs or anything else India-related into the discussion ever, but solely focused on Pakistan, I hope you will not accuse me of being smug, superior, holier-than-thou or any of the other random attributes that Indians get labeled with in your country.
Pakistan has many many problems, but unlike you Indians, we don
@bloody civilian
It’s amazing that you spoke about the Wagah border ritual in the terms you did, since for some months now, I’ve shared the exact identical vision, except that in my version, it was a pot-bellied, not very well shaven regular police constable who strolls up, salutes the flag and brings it down, and so on… It was startling to read your words.
I have to concede you the point: I was indeed thinking about what happened post-’47. By the way, I’ve never doubted that the Congress blew it by its intransigence in the last years, actually, even the last months before August.
My quibble was about the nature of a nation, and you certainly are making a lot of sense with your arguments. This needs some mulling over. Excuse me if I take a little time over that.
Your last para had me in splits. Couldn’t we, instead, hire the Sri Lankans to run both countries? That is, if they agree to let the Tamils run Sri Lanka. The possibilities, now that you’ve released that genie from its lamp, are wonderful.
To all: Yes, indeed this is an exciting forum, and yes, it does beg for comment. However, the intention can never be to ‘hijack’ or otherwise be discourteous to my hosts. I hope I’ve stayed on topic at all times. If not, please say so, without hesitation.
@ Amir Ali Pakistan is a reality and no rational Indian in their right mind should even question its existence or ask for a rationale for its existence.
Which Pakistan exists though affects not only its own citizens but also Indians for obvious reasons that I have stated earlier. You can forgive us for getting alarmed as well when Swat gets overrun by zealots who I believe are scaring most moderate Pakistanis as well.
Bloody civilian is absolutely right though when he says that this Indians interest (and statements by Indian Hawks) make the task of Pakistani moderates so much harder and play into the hands of the extremists .
Nevertheless I hope you can see that the concern in this forum by us