Families Mourn the Loss of Airblue ABQ-202: Crash Near Islamabad: 152 Dead, No Survivors

Posted on July 28, 2010
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(Note: A full list of passengers on the plane and a phone number where more information can be obtained is available here).

There is little except words of condolence and silent prayers that one can offer to those who have lost their loved ones in the fatal crash of Airblue flight ABQ-202. They will have to live with the loss and the agony forever. Our words will change little, but they are one way to cope with the cold chill that runs down one’s spine as one reads the details of what happened in the skies over Margalla Hills..

In the four plus years we have run this blog, we have had to do too much mourning of Pakistanis dying needlessly.One of the very first times we had to write such a post was of another plane crash – PIA’s Fokker crash in July 2006 that killed 45. Since then it has been needless dying galore of Pakistanis.

The pain gets into the very marrow of the bones of all of us. But it never becomes less painful. You never get used to it. Each time is like a ton of bricks hitting you. Then, something like this happens and it hurts even more. Maybe, because there is no one to lash out against. All you can do is to offer words of condolence and silent prayers to those who have lost their loved ones. You know the words will change nothing, but you hope they will offer some solace in solidarity to the grieved, and maybe some little venting to your own pain.

The news is now known to all. There were no survivors.  Here are some details from Dawn:

There were no survivors from the Airblue passenger plane that crashed in the Margalla Hills in Islamabad on Wednesday, Interior Minister Rehman Malik said. “There are no survivors. We believe all are dead. We are recovering the remains of the dead bodies from the wreckage,” Imtiaz Elahi, chairman of Islamabad’s Capital Development Authority told Reuters. Elahi said earlier reports of five survivors from the crash were wrong and that all 152 on board the plane were killed. Meanwhile, the city’s police chief said rescue workers had recovered dead bodies of more than 100 people from the wreckage of the plane. “More than 100 bodies have been found. We have not yet found any survivor or injured,” Bani Amin Khan told AFP. “The search is continuing,” he added. Meanwhile, the plane’s black box was also recovered, the Civil Aviation Authority said.

… “I along with four other police and rescue officials reached the crash site. The debris of the plane was scattered there in raging fire. The plane had struck a ridge which fell on the wreckage,” official Arshad Javed said. “All we could see were charred hands or feet. I collected two heads, two legs and two hands in a bag.” The plane was flying from Karachi to Islamabad and the exact cause of the crash was not immediately clear. The aircraft had lost contact with the control tower during the crash which occurred amid thick fog and heavy rainfall in Islamabad. Guards with the forestry service said they had found some wreckage and seen some bodies, police official Mohammad Saeed said. The army said it was sending special troops to the area to help out along with helicopters.

… One Saqlain Altaf told a private television news channel that he was on a family outing in the hills when he saw the plane, looking unsteady in the air. ”The plane had lost balance, and then we saw it going down,” he said, adding he heard the crash. Thick clouds of smoke were rising from the Margalla Hills. Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani ordered authorities to control the fire immediately and rescue passengers. The government declared a day of national mourning and called off a cabinet meeting that was scheduled for today.

… Raheel Ahmed, a spokesman for Airblue, said an investigation would be launched, but that for now the focus was to find survivors. The plane was no more than eight years old, and it had no known technical issues, Ahmed said. He added that to his knowledge, the pilots had not sent any emergency signals. Airblue flies within Pakistan as well as internationally to the United Arab Emirates, Oman and the United Kingdom. The only previous recorded accident for Airblue, a carrier that began flying in 2004, was a tailstrike in May 2008 at Quetta airport by one of the airline’s Airbus 321 jets.

… There were no casualties and damage was minimal, according to the US-based Aviation Safety Network.
The airliner began operations in 2004 with a fleet of Airbus A320 and A321 aircraft, the company said on its website. The plane that crashed on Wednesday was also built by Airbus, the European planemaker said. “We regret to confirm there has been an accident with an Airbus aircraft and we will provide more information when we have more confirmed data available,” Airbus spokesman Stefan Schaffrath said. According to the latest available data published by Airbus, Airblue operates six aircraft from its A320 family of short-haul and medium-haul aircraft seating up to 185 passengers.

47 Comments on “Families Mourn the Loss of Airblue ABQ-202: Crash Near Islamabad: 152 Dead, No Survivors”

  1. July 28th, 2010 11:20 am

    May God bless the bereaved and bereaved families.May they rest in peace.
    And May God grant us the wisdom to learn the lessons, in all respects from such incidents.

  2. Adam Insaan says:
    July 28th, 2010 11:21 am

    Ameen.

  3. Asma says:
    July 28th, 2010 11:34 am

    What a tragic loss. My prayers for the departed and their families.

  4. banjara286 says:
    July 28th, 2010 1:11 pm

    heartbreaking. inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raaji’oon :-(

  5. Ben says:
    July 28th, 2010 1:35 pm

    It is a real tragedy and the plane possibly crashed due to the fact that the it was being flown by an over-aged pilots. Instead of learning a lesson from this tragedy, the PIA Board of Directors decided today to rehire retired pilots. Story at: http://fmeducation.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/why-should-we-pay-for-your-blunders/

  6. A.F.S. says:
    July 28th, 2010 1:52 pm

    Rumour in Islamabad is that as the plane tried to land it got into a no fly zone near the parliament and was shot down.

  7. July 28th, 2010 1:59 pm

    I wonder why our government is so sad about the plane crash tragedy? I mean what about the other thousands of deaths by the terrorist attacks, target killings, train crashes, bomb blasts, military operations etc? Why they don’t announce the mourning for those, why only for the passengers who were traveling in airplane, just because they were high class people?

    woh loug jahaz mien safar kar rahe the is liye soug ka ilan? and woh jo rouz martay hein un ka kisi ko khial nai ata?? just because keh woh 3rd class and 4th class mediocre hien??

    kya woh insaan nai hotay? ya jahazon mien safar karne walay kisi dosri duniya se aye hoye hien???

    unfortunately its the bad culture and system of our country,,,we lack leadership and strong Governance system,,,,all we need is education, honesty, unity, faith , discipline and need to follow the golden rules of our Islam religion which is based on justice and peace,,,,the only key towards success,,,,educated class of Pakistan have a great responsibility to take part in the progress of Pakistan,,,,

    In the end , I’d like to say that I m really sad today, not only about the tragedy that had taken place in the hills of margala, but i m sad for those too who got killed and martyred in the bombings and target killings and in drone attacks and in military operations and the list goes on…

    Thanks ATP for giving me a plat form to speak!

  8. Faisal says:
    July 28th, 2010 3:35 pm

    A horrible accident, as if the deaths from terrorist attacks and monsoon rains were not enough, a plane had to crash. Our govt buffoons made things worse by first stating that there are some survivors.

    And what good did the FAZAI JAIZA of PM, 3 chief ministers and others did in a Helicopter, with bad weather and rain round the corner? God forbid if this aircraft had met with another accident?

    I am further incensed with the needless analysis (you have to see Dr. Shahid Masood trying to propagate the absurd conspiracy theory by asking all kinds of reckless questions) and visuals of weeping family members aired all over our tv channels.

  9. Abbasi says:
    July 28th, 2010 3:38 pm

    A very sad incident. My prayers for the deceased, rest in peace. The pictures above are heartbreaking.

  10. July 28th, 2010 3:59 pm

    Here are a few of the comments posted on the ATP Facebook Page:

    - “Inna lilahe wa inna ilahy rajeoon..”
    - “Inna lilahe wa inna ilahy rajeoon”
    - “inna lilahe wa inna illahy rajeo0n! . . . may thr souls rest in heaven! AMEEN!”
    - “Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji’un”
    - “very sad tragedy … :(”
    - “Inna Lilahe wa inna Ilahy rajeoon, Amen !”
    - “I wonder why our government is so sad about the plane crash tragedy? I mean what about the other thousands of deaths by the terrorist attacks, target killings, train crashes, bomb blasts, military operations etc? Why they don’t announce the mourning for those, why only for the passengers who were traveling in airplane, just because they were high class people?

    woh loug jahaz mien safar kar rahe the is liye soug ka ilan? and woh jo rouz martay hein un ka kisi ko khial nai ata?? just because keh woh 3rd class and 4th class mediocre hien??

    kya woh insaan nai hotay? ya jahazon mien safar karne walay kisi dosri duniya se aye hoye hien???

    unfortunately its the bad culture and system of our country,,,we lack leadership and strong Governance system,,,,all we need is education, honesty, unity, faith , discipline and need to follow the golden rules of our Islam religion which is based on justice and peace,,,,the only key towards success,,,,educated class of Pakistan have a great responsibility to take part in the progress of Pakistan,,,,

    In the end , I’d like to say that I m really sad today, not only about the tragedy that had taken place in the hills of margala, but i m sad for those too who got killed and martyred in the bombings and target killings and in drone attacks and in military operations and the list goes on…

    Thanks ATP for giving me a plat form to speak!”
    - “Inna Lilahe wa inna Ilahy rajeoon, Amen”
    - “Inna Lilahe wa inna Ilahy rajeoon, Amen”
    - “ur rite fr some extent ,,but dey were also innocent people ,, v shud feel sad for dat ,:(( INA LILAHI WA INNA ILAHY RAJEON AMEEN”
    - ” u need medical asisstance, its hypocrares like you who has no right to join this page called Pakistaniat,, so keep away n get a life”
    - “i do agree with all of urcomments, but its so sad, may Allah bless their souls.”
    - “yes I know, And I m feeling sad, but i never heard any gov official announcing one day mourning for the people who died in the target killings, and all the bombings? Or did they??”
    - “please take a miute to mourn the loss….what i don’t get is why do we ALWAYS have to dredge up awful things that have happened/ are happening whenever a tragedy strikes….please be human and think that every tragedy is to be mourned for some time before we move on to the next one….
    @sarmad…please be kind enough and do not drag politics into this… we know how many people are suffering in Pakistan throughout….and we do keep them in our prayers….please be kind and human enough and do not sling any kind of dirt anywhere….pray :(“

  11. July 28th, 2010 4:03 pm

    More comments from the ATP Facebook Page:

    - “why i have no right to join this page? stop being an EXTREMIST PATRIOT! be a patriot in normal way! If u dont agree with me, give me a reason as i respect everyone’s comment on this platform!”
    - “I m not dragging politics, i m a non political person, but lets just think of it as a human…as u are saying…
    I am sad about all what happened, because, people are already dying, and now this, the plane crash…
    and yes exactly, every tragedy is to be mourned for sometime, but our government is not doing this.”
    - “u just need to learn, what to talk and when to talk. just follow that, you might be right sometime, but at the moment, your comments look quite stupid and non serious !”
    - “Stupid? just because i m going in the other way? i m posting something that is not according to ur taste?”
    - “rest in peace those who passed away ameen.”
    - “We just know what we see on t.V. Media is responisible for all of our thoughts now a days. And the people who are saying that its not the right time to speak. Are ignoring the facts. Alas ! We don’t have time to think of our poor brothers. Yeah as he said because they are third class them thay don’t have right to moun. They should always remain behind the scene. Because they don’t deserve live a happy life.”
    - “media is responsible too, they discuss everything in between 48 hours and then they don’t even bother to discuss it.”
    - “bat bilkul sahi he,lekin har bat moqe ke hisab se bolni chahiye….apni halat to check karen ham log?kis jungle se aae hen sare? kuch bhi hojai har waqt phadda or behso mubahisa….wahan log mar gai or yahan sarmad bhai ne apni politics shuru kardi….bajai iske ke do meethe bol boldete koi dua kardete lage pare hen larai horai he masha allah masha allah,ye musalman hen?me to poochta hn ye insan hen??”
    - “Kya ap sure hain k hme dukh nai hoa aur hm ny dua nai ki?
    Zrori to nai k sb ko dikha kr he har kam hota hy.
    Uska mtlb hy, k death tb b hoti hain jb hm party ma hotay hain aur tb b jb club ma.
    Wo jo rozana drone hamlo ma apnay ghar k andher he be gunah mary jaty hain, kbi wo nai suna?”
    - “Khar, ap khud he dakh lena k 4 din bd apky dil ma is bt ka kitna afsos reh jay ga”
    - “yes exactly, wahan loug mar gaye, wahan aik plane crash howa!
    kabhi aap ne ya kisi aur ne apna status un logon ke liye update kia ya soug ka ilaan kia kisi baray ne pooray mulk mien keh aj satar(70) banday shaheed ho gaye hien, un ke liye soug ka ilan… kabhi aap mien se kisi ne kaha keh bomb blasts ke result mien jo loug shaheed hotay hein un ke liye aik din soug ka ilan?
    aj chun ke woh loug jahaz mien safar kar rahe the, elite class ke loug the, is liye un ke liye soug ka ilan kar dia gya?
    mien lar nahi raha… mien aap sab ko is baat ki tarah ishara de raha hoon keh hum loug jahazon walon ke liye tou soug ka ilan kar dete hein, par jo sarkoon par, namaz ki halat mien, terrorist attacks mien maray jatay hien, un ke liye soug ka ilan kyun nahi??
    mien bahesiyat musalmaan aur aik pakistani… kehta hoon keh mujhe bhi dukh hay un logon ka jo aj shaheed hoye..
    exactly, even hum bhi, jo abhi barh charh kar baat kar rahe hien, humien bhi 6 din baad bhoola ho ga keh koi hadsa howa tha, jis mien kai khandanon ke loug shaheed ho gaye the…”

  12. July 28th, 2010 4:06 pm

    Yet more comments from the ATP Facebook Page:

    - “Bs afsos ka muqam hy. Per hm sb asay he hain. In sb se “used to”ho gay hain”
    - “i agree with u both ^ .. i think kuch log sarmad ki bt ko galat interpret ker gye .. all he’s sayin is that .. agr in logo k liyay soug hai tou un logo k liyay b hna chye .. that’s it”
    - “we Pakistanis, Emotions control us, we dont control our emotions..”
    - “Jo mar rahe hen ya marchuke hen blasts me ya target killing me….woto begunah mare gai or shaheed hoke hamesha keliye jannat me chale gae.,ab jo peeche rehgae hen wo sochen ke ham mare gae ya mar gae to kia kam aaega?jahan takhukoomat or hukmarano ki bat he to bhai seedhi si bat he jesi awam wese hukmaran,roads pe chale jao ya bazaro me,sabzi wale ke pas chale jao ya kfc chale jao,ameer ke pas chale chahe ghareeb ke pas,80% ke pas akhlaq nam ki cheez nai he,har koi har kisi se kisi na kisi waja se nafrat ka pahar liye betha hota he…ye un musalmanu ka hal he jinke bare(sahaba) ke akhlaq aese the ke kafir unka rawayya unki tijarat dekh kar musalaman hojate,hamare akhlaq angrez legai or shayad badtameezi or badmashi ka kuch hissa tohfe me dete gae..
    sb ko apni islah or apne gireban me jhank kar dekhne ki zarurat he,wahan log margae or hamy ahan apne apne dilon ki bharas nikal rahe tuff he ham sb par,sb par,awam aesi he to hukumat 100% aesi hi honi chaiye.”
    - “^pehli baat .. bharas koi nae nikal rha … discuss ker rae hain .. aik bt kahi hai usne .. ksi ko hazam nae hui .. kya bt thi ? .. agr un k liyay sog hain tou un k liyay b hna chye .. itni c bt ko kya bna dia .. koi bharas keh ra hai .. koi usay insaan e nae smjh ra .. koi keh ra hai he’s mentally ill .. hah Allah k bando kya galat bt ki hai usne jo yeh yeh kaha ja ra hai usay ? ap ko bt thk lagti hai tou keh do thk hai .. nae lgti theek tou keh do nae thk sath apni reason bta do k shyd uski islaah o jye … yeh bharas .. mentally ill .. insaan nae tm .. yeh sb kya hai ?”
    - “Very tragic…. Sorry for the families who lost their loved ones.”
    - “galt bat ni ki ,,he is rite bt un ko jo aj hua us p afsos hona chayaye n hai b ,,is liye he is not wrong i thing ,, agar ap politics ki bat krte hain to plz lev it ,,may b ye b uno ne i krwaya ho ,, anythng can b expected by our government
    44 minutes ago · Like · · ”
    - “nae yr politics ki bt koi nae ker ra .. itni bt hui k jis tarah hmein in logo ka afsoos hwa isi tarah hmein apne un bhaiyo behnaun ka b afsoos hna chye .. itni bt ki hai usne .. mai heran hu k kya kya kaha logo ne usay .. mentally ill .. ye wo .. khair .. Allah un families ko himat de jinhaun ne apnaun ko khoya .. Ameen”
    - “please i request you guyzz to make DUA for our lost brother’s and sister’s rahter then jst discussing irrelevant topic..we can leave that for later..many thnx plz pray with me all MAY ALLAH grant all of our lost brothers and sister with jannah and give patience to their family and friends in this sorrow and grief…AMEEN”
    - “^another negative reply …
    pehli bt .. topic was long over :)
    dusri bt .. the topic wasn’t irrelevant :)
    teesri bt .. abi abi we prayed :) “

  13. Brian says:
    July 28th, 2010 4:13 pm

    There is something fishy about this. Why would the plane just blow up with no reason and its a new plane.

  14. Haroon says:
    July 28th, 2010 4:33 pm

    Heartbreaking indeed.

  15. Gohar says:
    July 28th, 2010 5:20 pm

    Another tragedy strikes our beloved yet befallen motherland. It’s ironic that Mr. Obama offers his condolences to the families of the agrieved. His “humanitarian” forces have killed what, 1,000 to 2,000 innocent civilians in Pakistani drone attacks? Those lives must be disposable because they are mostly the unwashed masses and “The U.S. does not comment on ‘ongoing operations.’”

  16. Ikhlaque Chan says:
    July 28th, 2010 5:36 pm

    The radar operator had the plane on his screen.
    He can see the planes speed, direction and altitude.

    Why was the plane then still out of course?

  17. AMNA ABBASI says:
    July 28th, 2010 6:11 pm

    feels really bad about the Plane Crash in Margalla Hills.. May ALLAH S.W.T rest their souls in peace and give patience to their families ( AMEEN ).. INALLAH HA MA’SABREEN
    ( ALLAH SABAR KARNAY WALOUN KAY SATH HAI )

  18. Jabbar says:
    July 28th, 2010 7:53 pm

    What a pathetic display of conspiracy hatching by Shahid Masood and others on various TV shows today. These guys enjoy dancing on other’s graves.

  19. HH says:
    July 28th, 2010 8:04 pm

    I haven’t even seen Dr. Shahid Masood’s coverage of this, but I’ve got to say the media has been horrific. Other blogs (Cafe Pyala, 5 rupee) have already talked about this, but the crashing plan animation on GEO was so incredibly tasteless. Also, the harassing of grieving families left me horrified.

    Sometimes I wish we could back to the good old days of PTV, because this free media really isn’t good for anything.

  20. someone says:
    July 28th, 2010 8:10 pm

    Its just amazing that our Govt & information Minister have two versions of Black Box. The first he confirmed that the Black box of the plane was found and at 9pm he say its not found. I was at the spot with a CAA guy who confirmed that the Black Box is found and waiting for the concerned authorities to be handed over, he was communicating with the crash site through his wireless. Everyone is saying that its the Capt’s fault but i believe its not as he was a very senior pilot with around 30000hrs flight experience so given below are my observations:
    1. There was no thunderstorm in Islamabad with normal rain and the mountains were covered with clouds otherwise rest is all clear at certain height so why the pilot didnt follow the route and went towards mountains which is 4 to 5 nautical miles away from the normal round which he needs to take. I cant believe with such experienced pilot he doesnt know where are the mountains and what was the altitude of the plane.
    2. What happen to Aircraft collision avoidance systems which is pre-installed on every plane and atleast you get to know 5 miles before what is coming to you if there is any collusion to happen so it was off or everyone at the cockpit was sleeping.
    3. Islamabad is surrounded by mountains by only two sides and the other directions its all land and no mountains so why the pilot went only towards mountains why not the open sides even he can see where are the clouds and mountains are in Islamabad. Why all the systems at the plane were unable to tell that you are flying low in altitude and there are mountains ahead.
    4. The plane altitude was very low below the required altitude which is also questionable and why the pilot unable to climb the plane.
    5. As PIA flight was directed towards Lahore then why airblue flight was kept there. I believe just to save the cost which means passengers life is not important as compared to cost.
    6. If you see on all the news channels that they went to the homes of the victims but no one went to see the pilot family or no information about them so what they want to hide or to show to the public.
    7. There were many eye witness but none of the them came on the news channels so my question is WHY. One eye witness said that the plane was not flying properly so it means there was some fault in the plane but just to safe Airline the reports are hidden and all the blame is going to the pilot.

    There are many other points but what my opinion says is that there was a fault in the plane and the pilot took the plane towards mountain just to avoid civilians or more deaths in case of crash landing on the land. The black box is also now not found so this means it just vanished after being found means they want to hide information.

    So all of you just think over it what point i had made.

    Links for Black box found at 6pm on Geo news and other channels confirmed by Minister of Information and then at 9pm link from Geo that the Minister denied of any Black box found.

    http://www.geo.tv/7-28-2010/69121.htm
    http://www.geo.tv/7-28-2010/69112.htm

  21. Jabbar says:
    July 28th, 2010 8:14 pm

    This comment by “someone” is another pathetic display of our tamashai culture. I have lost all respect for all Pakistani media after this. Listen to them or read them and they seem more ‘happy’ to have landed a ‘big story’ to talk about than show the type of genuine empathy that you see in this blog and others and amongst ordinary Pakistanis. Shameful.

  22. Razi says:
    July 28th, 2010 8:23 pm

    A real tragedy indeed. Our prayers for the departed and their families.

    However, can we please be spared watching these self proclaimed Aviation specialists (including non-practicing Doctors) crawling all over the TV channels. I caught a comment by a certain ‘Professor’ in support of one such conspiracy theory that the accident could not have been caused by wind or weather. And that the only place in the world where there is a sudden change of wind is Singapore. I wonder if the good ‘Professor’ is familiar with the term “Wind Shear” and “Microburst” and its effects on planes?

    Let the investigators/specialists do their job and determine the real cause of the accident.

  23. Jamal says:
    July 28th, 2010 10:19 pm

    Why was a pilot who had already retired from PIA flying this plane? The lost lives will not come back. But we deserve some answers to what happened here and some steps that it will not happen again.

  24. Arjun says:
    July 28th, 2010 11:13 pm

    Deepest and heartfelt condolences from Mumbai. Such tragedies are so unexplainable for the families, to lose someone beloved so suddenly and in such an unexplained manner is the worst and really really sad. Our prayers are for them to have the courage to deal with this.

  25. banjara286 says:
    July 29th, 2010 1:04 am

    it is common in north america that a flight is delayed/stopped at the origin if the weather at the destination is unsuitable for landing and/or there is unusual congestion in air traffic around the destination airport.

    perhaps such a system of flow control should be put in place in pakistan, if it does not already exist.

    also, if arrivals at airports such as the one at islamabad could benefit from better weather and fog/visibility conditions at a later hour in the day then the flight schedules should be set up after taking these factors into consideration.

    even the thought of the pain of the bereaved is overwhelming beyond words. g_d have mercy and grant peace to the departed and to their devastated families.

  26. Danish says:
    July 29th, 2010 2:40 am

    I was close to the crash site as my place is near to Margalla hills with direct view to crash site. The plane was flying quite low, with a stable trajectory, but it seemed pilot had no clue of where they were headed. There seemed to be a sudden throttle burst from engines which made the aircraft sound different just a couple of seconds before there was a loud explosion, and it appears that pilot did try to pull up when he got the GPWS warning, and probably the belly of the plane clipped the hills.

    Let’s not forget that there are radio frequency jammers in the vicinity of Islamabad especially in the no fly zone. Add it in with low hanging clouds, and pilots disorientation of direction, and it could be difficult to figure out where you are headed in a few minutes time. An aircraft traveling at 300 Km/Hr speed just needs a couple of minutes to cover 10 NM, which is the distance from the runway to Margalla Hills, and before you know it you are heading straight for the hills. Infact, on a clear day, you can actually see planes landing on the airport from Daman-e-Koh, so the airport doesn’t appear to be much far.

    There are a million things that could go wrong, and although the chance of failure in planes is pretty low, but it does happen. Many aircraft accidents are usually a chain of errors that start from a seemingly innocuous event. In this case suppose you have visual site of the runway, you are about to land and suddenly you lose site of it because of clouds, and you are focused looking for it. And when you are too busy finding the runway, you hardly notice how quickly minutes have passed. Before you know it, your instruments stop working, and before you even try to figure out what went wrong, and are under the impression that everything is under control , in a few seconds, you see hills in front of you.

    That could be one of the likely chain of events. Infact the pilot who landed 30 minutes before the doomed aircraft cited that he had great trouble in locating the airport and he considered the weather to be really bad for landing. Also there has been a previous event like this with Thai 601 , and this incident looks remarkably similar to that.

    Eventually, to get objective assessment, the authorities need to recover the black box, and the government needs to do transparent investigation and not make this a mystery like previous disasters have been made “in the best interest of the country”.

    Recovering the black box, and investigating the results from it is very important, and so is gathering vital clues from crash site so future incidents like this could be avoided.

    Deep condolences for the affected families

  27. Kashif Bukhari says:
    July 29th, 2010 4:04 am

    I came to know about this horrific tragedy within an hour of the incident and saw this whole tragedy unfolding while glued to TV watching Pakistani channels Express, Geo, and many others for straight 4-5 hours.
    Kudos to all the rescue workers and people at front for putting their lives @ risk but I was totally shocked about how our institutions and government dealt with this crisis. There was utter chaos, miscommunication, rumors and irresponsibilty at higher level. With all what has been happening in Pakistan lately, we should have been prepared way better.
    This is a wakeup call for everyone.
    Rumor 1
    First of all one won’t expect such a stupid mistake from cabinet ministers saying that there are 5-8 survivors. This irresponsible comment lengthened the agony of the families to an unprecedented level
    Then no one could verify or deny this information at any level including CDA, CAA, Police, Airblue and DMG on top of that another rumor
    Rumor 2
    that ambulances have started bringing dead bodies and injured people. But actually there was no sign of that and one TV channel was saying its only 30min drive from where the ambulances are bringing people. Again nobody was verifying… accepting or denying that ambulances left from the scene for hospitals including all the above depts.

    Rumor 3:
    The ambulances are arriving at atleast four different hospitals if not more.

    This caused such a pain and agony for all families and friends

    The families and relatives were running between PIM and other hospitals for 4-5hours to check if anyone survived. It was so bad that some even flew from khi to isb to check if anyone survived.

    It took six hours for the stupid minister to end this agony by saying who could survive such a crash.

  28. Shez says:
    July 29th, 2010 5:21 am

    So many people are getting involved in infighting and demolishing each others’ theories about the crash. Everyone has the right to express one’s opinion so who are you to disparage their remarks? Get a life.

    I live pretty close to the crash site but unlike others, I didn’t see the plane. I was talking on the phone out in the open and it was only drizzling, there were no massive showers or thunderstorms as some have suggested.

    So it’s up to the investigation authorities to find out the root cause but one can almost always conclude that the report will never be made public as is the case in Pakistan. The confusion around the discovery of black box or the lack of it has already sparked some new conspiracy theories.

  29. YLH says:
    July 29th, 2010 5:52 am

    It is a horrific tragedy and terrible loss.

    My question: Could it be that the plane was shot down?

    I mean it crashed within 4 miles of the national assembly, the presidency, the proposed GHQ, the Air headquarter and smack in the middle of the “No-Fly Zone”?

    Could it be that the plane was shot-down. Those of us who have hiked up the Margalla Hills know that the hills are swarming with military personnel and equipment.

  30. Shakil Malik says:
    July 29th, 2010 5:59 am

    Deep condolences for the affected families.

  31. Ali Shah says:
    July 29th, 2010 6:02 am

    One of the victim was Ghulam Abbas Datardina , his elder daughter’s (Sahar Abbas from LUMS) wedding was to be held on 30th July 2010 in Karachi , the groom (Baqir Lakhani) and his family had already come from USA , two functions were to be held in Karachi and one in Islamabad since Mr. Datardina had his business setup in Islamabad and was also residing there from quite some time , all the prepartions were complete and Ghulam Abbas Datardina went to Islamabad for finalizing some minor work when this incident took place.

    It is a great shock for the family , only two days before the wedding of Sahar Abbas datardina , his son was scheduled to attend Waterllo University this fall , this incident took place , only ALLAH knows WHY ???

  32. Abbas Shah says:
    July 29th, 2010 6:06 am

    One of the victim was Ghulam Abbas Datardina , his elder daughter’s (Sahar Abbas from LUMS) wedding was to be held on 30th July 2010 in Karachi , the groom (Baqir Abbas Lakhani) and his family had already come from USA , two functions were to be held in Karachi and one in Islamabad since Mr. Datardina had his business setup in Islamabad and was also residing there from quite some time , all the prepartions were complete and Ghulam Abbas Datardina went to Islamabad for finalizing some minor work when this incident took place.

    It is a great shock for the family , only two days before the wedding of Sahar Abbas datardina , his son was scheduled to attend Waterllo University this fall , this incident took place , only ALLAH knows WHY ???

  33. Shez says:
    July 29th, 2010 7:27 am

    There is a talk of the area where the plane crashed being a no-fly zone. While the parliament house and surrounding areas are in the no-fly zone but Faisal Masjid and the adjoining Margallah hills, including Daman-e-Koh, are not.

    Those who have taken the flights to Gilgit, Skardu and Chitral know that they almost always fly over the Faisal Mosque and the same spot where the ED 2020 crash happened. Sometimes the planes flew all the way over F-6 and Pir Sohawa as well.

  34. Muhammad Saim says:
    July 29th, 2010 9:11 am

    Inna llilahi Wa inna Illaihi Rajeoon. May Allah bless the souls of those who became the victims of this crash and give strength to their relatives. Ameen

    May Allah also give some sanity to our so call free media to show some mercy by not airing the pictures and agony of the traumatized relatives of the victims and to our government officials who were giving irresponsible remarks (by first claiming that 5 passengers have survived and that they have found the black box) which added to the misery of the tragic stricken relatives. Ameen.

  35. Zaheer says:
    July 29th, 2010 9:31 am

    @YLH. Why spew conspiracy theories in our already edgy society you will only get people even more agitated. This is like those silly theories about US bringing down the twin towers themselves. Please don’t let your imagination run wild. In a jahil society like ours, it can be very dangerous. And WHO would shoot the plane down on purpose?

  36. Guflam Ahmad says:
    July 29th, 2010 10:45 am

    It all could be happened at the time happening. God bless all the persons and provide the place in to the heaven.

  37. MARYAM NASEER says:
    July 30th, 2010 2:05 am

    I am very much upset on this sad demise. MAY ALLAH REST THEIR SOULS IN ETERNAL PEACE ameen sum ameen. Please Almighty ALLAH fogave us please please. We are sinful people…. Please shower your endless blessings on all of us and save us from such natural climites.
    Please do as much astaghfar as possible due to prevailing devastating situation of the country.

  38. July 30th, 2010 8:52 am

    It is really very terrible condition for those who lost their loving ones.It could be you, it could be me.It could be any one amongst us.Lets pray to Allah and say “Astaghfaar” for our bad deeds. May Allah rest their souls in peace.Amin

  39. RAO TANVIR says:
    July 30th, 2010 11:53 am

    It is really very terrible condition for those who lost their loving ones.It could be you, it could be me.It could be any one amongst us.Lets pray to Allah and say “Astaghfaar” for our bad deeds. May Allah rest their souls in peace.Amin

  40. HUMAUN KHALID says:
    July 30th, 2010 11:55 am

    I am very much upset on this sad demise. MAY ALLAH REST THEIR SOULS IN ETERNAL PEACE ameen sum ameen. Please Almighty ALLAH fogave us please please. We are sinful people…. Please shower your endless blessings on all of us and save us from such natural climites.
    Please do as much astaghfar as possible due to prevailing devastating situation of the country.

  41. July 31st, 2010 8:27 am

    It is a wake up call for all Muslims. We never know when our turn comes but its bitter truth and a message from Almighty Allah that we should be no more cruel to his mankind and our parent.We don’t know about tomorrow lets ask Allah for his mercy and blessings.May Lord rest the victims’s soul in peace.Amin

  42. Watan Aziz says:
    August 4th, 2010 11:11 pm

    May the loved ones of the departed find comfort and strength.

    But I have to ask, what is the difference between the uneducated and the educated of Pakistan?

    Answer: The educated will spread rumors in proper English.

    And then the blame the uneducated of Pakistan for the mess!

    ‘Kyun?’ (Why?)

  43. Mushtaq says:
    August 23rd, 2010 5:01 am

    Does anyone know what happened to the enquiry on this.

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  47. tariq says:
    January 21st, 2011 5:28 pm

    It is a wake up call for all Muslims. We never know when our turn comes but its bitter truth and a message from Almighty Allah that we should be no more cruel to his mankind and our parent.We don’t know about tomorrow lets ask Allah for his mercy and blessings.May Lord rest the victims’s soul in peace.Amin

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