This is Not Funny. This is Not Journalism. This is Disgraceful.

Posted on January 16, 2011
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Adil Najam

I have been forwarded a link to this video over a dozen times since yesterday. Like some of those who forwarded this to me, I do not find this video funny. And I certainly do not see any journalistic value in it. In fact, I find it rather disturbing, sometimes disgusting, and entirely disgraceful. I don’t really want you to see the video, but I do want us all – and especially our electronic media managers – to think real hard about what we are doing in our totally laissez-faire (the better phrase would be ‘mader, pidder, aazad’) attitude to what goes out as information, infotainment, and entertainment these days.

Note that the so-called “reporter” Shahid Hussain of Samaa TV tells us nothing about what the protest march is about or for. He finds that irrelevant and assumes everyone else will too. He accuses everyone of ogling and leering at the young nurses and is interested only in the fact that it is a march by young women. Why they march in protest, who they are, what their demands are – all of that matters not to him. I, for one, find all that relevant, but have no idea what this is about. Nor is there any condemnation of the ogling that he is supposedly ‘reporting’; only an expression of his own amusement and rather cheap and demeaning puns (‘nazaroun kay hifazati hisaar‘)!

Yet, the only thing that can be said with certainty is that it is the reporter Shahid Hussain and Samaa TV (through their cameras and narration) who are ogling indecently, misrepresenting and demeaning young working women in Pakistan and possibly also lying in what is supposed to be a “news” report (Do we have any evidence that the rickshaw actually got stuck because the driver was ogling? Did the policemen actually tell the reporter that this duty was good for tucking in their tummies and that they would like more such duty? Or is all of this just made up for by reporter’s wild imagination?)

I am not a prude. I think I can enjoy a good laugh and appreciate the pressures of live television with good humor. Nor would I ever think of advocating media clampdown or censorship (I was a working journalist during Zia-ul-Haq’s time when censorship was real as well as ugly; my commitment to a free media is absolute and unwavering). But I do know what is clearly not funny and what is disgusting. This is both.

This is not a call for clampdown or censorship; this is just a call for basic decency and reasonable taste. This is about the media making bad choices. Really bad choices. And making them again and again. These are not just ‘mistakes’. These are willful and deliberate attempts to sensationalize, trivialize, sexualize and dehmanize important issues.

With the case of Salman Taseer’s murder and the role of the media in fueling hatred so recent, would this not be the time for the media to think introspectively about what values they are promoting and what prejudice they are spreading? Some will no doubt accuse me to making too much of this. Maybe I am. But at a time when we have seen the destructive power of the media and of anchors to ruin lives, instigate frayed nerves, and spread venom in an already fractured society, it is the responsibility of the media to monitor itself.

The issue may be different as might be the stakes, but the dynamics of instigation, of misinformation, of legitimizing anti-social behavior and of dehumanization are exactly the same. And so is the damage to society as a whole. What are the values being promoting here: The disrespect of women? The trivialization of worker concerns? Raw chauvinism? Even if these are values already in society, is it the role of the media to trivialize, evangelize and celebrate them?

All those who habitually lie to themselves about how we have great respect for women in our society; well, this is the respect we have!

There is a great line in the movie Spider-Man: “With great power comes great responsibility.” The media in Pakistan today has assumed great power. I wish it would also learn to demonstrate some responsibility.

83 Comments on “This is Not Funny. This is Not Journalism. This is Disgraceful.”

  1. Humaira says:
    January 16th, 2011 8:47 am

    Adil Najam, thank you very much for writing this.
    This video and report is outright shameful. If Samaa thinks THIS is funny then they are sadly mistaken. It shows just how difficult it is to be a working woman in Pakistan and how society makes you an object of ridicule and jokes, even news channels do.
    I am glad at least ATP is speaking up on this disgrace.
    In any other country the TV channel would be issueing an apology and firing those who made this. In Pakistan, I guess they think this deserves an award!

  2. I. Zubeir says:
    January 16th, 2011 8:54 am

    Definitely can’t disagree with your take on this sub-standard form of journalism and all it culminates is a YouTube clip which will be viewed over & again. Without going into much detail as you have already covered it well, this is the take of the so-called journalist(s) who shot this and commented on it yet no mention of the importance of this march and it’s agenda.
    Is the use of term “Lafangay” meant to appropriately represent the covering journalists? appears like it based on their attempt to highlight the lafanga pan of their own narrative on this clip.

  3. Junaid says:
    January 16th, 2011 8:58 am

    Well said, Sir.
    This ‘report’ is a mockery of journalism as well as of respect for women. The guy who made and ran this should not be allowed to be a journalist.
    As Zuberi said, he is the only “Lafanga” around.

  4. HarOON says:
    January 16th, 2011 9:03 am

    Totally agree. Shows again how the media will stoop to any depth of badtameezi for a little rating boost.

  5. Aliya says:
    January 16th, 2011 9:12 am

    Bravo ATP.
    Very powerful and very right.
    Our society thinks it is “funny” to ridicule women in general and poor, weak working women in particular.
    This report is another example of that.
    Thank you for speaking up.

  6. ShahidnUSA says:
    January 16th, 2011 9:29 am

    I would not look at that video again and neither I would recommend. Yes it was made in a poor taste, demeaning and would discourage other females to come out and work, which is bad.

    An insecurity within that they may perform better than men.

  7. January 16th, 2011 9:38 am

    yup this is ridiculous and should be brought to contempt.and sad news is this that this is a true figure of our society social behavior which is seen on the road (roadside traffic,and people staring and police) is so obvious that no one can’t deny.its not just a journalism flaw but the whole society is presenting an overwhelming situation.It’s an peak hour to ponder over what we ourselves do and what is happening around us and what are our remedial measures .

  8. Amjad says:
    January 16th, 2011 10:08 am

    I agree it was in bad taste. But you may also be over-reacting just a bit?

  9. Anwer says:
    January 16th, 2011 10:09 am

    Was this the only coverage of the march on Smaa TV? Did they seriously cover the issues that led to this protest march, in their regular news programs? Have they in the past covered and highlighted the problems that Pakistani women regularly face as they struggle with their lives?

  10. January 16th, 2011 10:22 am

    Thank you Adil, for bringing this to our notice and highlighting it. One of the most CHEAP and insensitive reports I have ever seen. Really outrageous. I think a complaint should be lodged against the reporter and the channel for sexual harassment and denigrating (?) the struggle of young working women.

  11. Saddened says:
    January 16th, 2011 10:51 am

    Watching this report saddens me. I wonder if, in my lifetime, Pakistan will ever move forward.

  12. Adnan says:
    January 16th, 2011 11:19 am

    Welcome to progressive and modern society of Pakistan.

  13. Hermoon says:
    January 16th, 2011 11:23 am

    The issue is not of young nurses walking on the streets of Lahore but the real issue is where is our ‘free’media taking us,in what direction and what do they want us to see and think?
    Geo is already getting onto our nerves.A recent survey showed that more people are suffering from hypertension watching Geo than any other channel.Samaa TV in the mad race to attract more viewers goes a step further.
    Then there is another dangerous trend.Bad news reports often lambasting politicians are accompanied by gawkish bollywood tunes.
    It is time these TV channels are leashed and their content filtered to be made suitable for viewers.
    This report is nothing as compared to dozens of others that have already gone unnoticed by ATP.

  14. Reporter says:
    January 16th, 2011 11:25 am

    As the media has grown so fast there is a great rush to produce material no matter good or bad and lots of people who are reporters have no qualifications to be so but the market is hot and they get in without any training or any quality control from the channels. They forget that the type of ‘ghatia’ mazak that they do with their friends is not the same as putting on air. It is the responsibility of the channels to keep such ghatia stuff out, but clearly the channels are failing in this.

  15. KJ says:
    January 16th, 2011 11:44 am

    Downright disgraceful

    Its not only a reflection of falling Media standards but a general reflection of the attitude our society has developed about participation of Women in public space.

    On one exterme are the people who would just laught, jeer, oogle or harass women in public and on the other are people who will use this kind of video to justify curtailing Women’s participation in public space, marches, protests.

    Samaa TV should publish a proper clarification and its stand on this – If they have a iota of sense of responsibility left, then nothing short of a public apology to Nurses is desired otherwise it will be a seen as a active collaborator of this moral carcass of a society.

  16. KJ says:
    January 16th, 2011 11:46 am

    @Adnan

    Progressiveness & Modernity have got nothing to do with this junk.

  17. Ali Ahmad says:
    January 16th, 2011 11:47 am

    You almost mentioned everything! And I wonder why they are so (read so very much) biased in reporting!

    Where’s the “Islamic Country” part of story? And are those the same people who praise QAADRI for killing Taseer??

    As long as its another girl – as long as its you doing some bullshit – this is all fun – otherwise this is an unforgettable sin

  18. Bushra says:
    January 16th, 2011 11:56 am

    Thank you for highlighting this. This is really cheap and low down behavior by the Samaa reporter.

    I must also say that I think some of the comments seem to be misinterpreting this. I am not sure if people or police were leering or ogling. Some might have but the Samaa people have selectively chosen parts and put them together to make all pakistanis look like ugly leering people as if everyone does that all the time. That portrayal makes things even different for working women. That is why this is doubly bad and sad.

  19. Huma Shah says:
    January 16th, 2011 12:21 pm

    Thank you for highlighting this Adil. The video is sexist and shoddy. And so is the reporter. I endorse all the views by the readers here, except for Amjad, who seems to think we’re all over-reacting. Would also like to add here that even though the reporter seems to have no sense or ethics of how to report a story, it is shameful that the editors/owners of Samaa tv let such a cheap piece of journalism go on air. They need to apologize to all women, esp the nurses taking part in that demonstration!

  20. Abbas says:
    January 16th, 2011 12:43 pm

    This is so sexist and demeaning. Thank you for highlighting this. How can a channel put this. We should really all make a noise about it whatever way we can so that they learn, otherwise they will keep doing this sort of stuff.

  21. Zeeshan says:
    January 16th, 2011 12:49 pm

    Please dont think of me as being a lesser human being, but i’d like to play devil’s advocate here. Indeed, the coverage was demeaning and insensitive, but I wouldnt call it disgusting or appalling, as some have suggested.

    In fact, id go so far as to say that the protest march coverage showed us the various angles of what such a march looks like, beginning with the ogling, the initial group of young nurses (which grew into a larger caravan), the odd relationship of law enforcement with those they are trying to enforce the law on, etc. I thought the coverage was holistic and showed many different facets of Pakistani society.

    What was most derogatory for me was the use of Abrar-ul-Haq’s music in the background, which belittled the event and the coverage. In an of itself, the clip was not so troubling for me.

  22. Parveen says:
    January 16th, 2011 12:50 pm

    Prof. Najam, thank you for writing this and thank you for writing this with such honest passion. I look at the video and it makes me doubt our future, but reading your words and the comments here gives me hope that we have not lost our soul.

    If this is the face of our media, then the rot is deep indeed.

  23. razia says:
    January 16th, 2011 12:53 pm

    adil how can you complain about the pakistani media when you yourself are guilty of such behavior as well. Currently, pakistan is facing serious crises at many fronts. In order to bring about a positive change we all need to think in long and short-term solutions. I have written eyewitness accounts on serious matters: inspiring efforts of a young woman who is setting a phenomenal example to uplift Pakistan’s poor. An example we all should follow or at least support her efforts. It went unpublished on your blog. The other eyewitness account is of the floods still devastating lives in the interior sindh., also did not find a spot on your blog. While posts on trivial subjects, which are of no consequence appear on regular basis.

  24. Humaira says:
    January 16th, 2011 1:02 pm

    @razia
    Your rant makes no sense. I know of no blog that has written more and more often about the floods than this one. Look at the top of this page and their post about flood affectees is still there, just follow the links or do a search on floods. So, your accusation makes no sense, unless you are only angry because your post did not get a space?
    Maybe we should be a little less selfish and look not at our own glory and publicity but at the issue. I am sure sure a blog this popular gets loads of submissions each day and cannot publish them all. As a reader, I certainly like the quality control they have and the diversity of topics from their team. Mostly putting topics that few others are writing about (like this one).

  25. Gardezi says:
    January 16th, 2011 1:06 pm

    This is deeply distressing and really pathetic piece of journalism. Good that you highlighted it and with strong words.

    I know most TV channels are owned by newspaper owners, does anyone know who owns Samaa?

  26. Gardezi says:
    January 16th, 2011 1:15 pm

    @Zeeshan.
    And you do not find it at all disturbing that the ‘reporter’ does not even say WHY they are marching? Or how his voice and words are smirking at the sexist leering as if it was ‘just good fun’?

  27. Yasir says:
    January 16th, 2011 1:33 pm

    Thank you for writing this great post. The media is just falling down and down and even news channels look like sleazy rags. They have no journalistic ethics left in them. There has to be a way to reign in this decline through viewer pressure because censorship is clearly not the answer.

  28. zaheer says:
    January 16th, 2011 2:06 pm

    well written Mr. Adil Najam. hope this gets into the heads of the tv channel owners .

  29. banjara286 says:
    January 16th, 2011 6:43 pm

    ah … so there isn’t anything wrong with the sick behavior of our menfolk? the entire fault is with the reporting that exposes this – one of the uglier – face of our pious society?

  30. Aamir Ali says:
    January 16th, 2011 6:52 pm

    This reporter was probably rejected by a lot of girls and feels like he is taking revenge. I remember from my high school days in Pakistan every pretty and somewhat pretty girl had many scandalous tales said about her and most of them would be madeup by boys they had rejected.

  31. ~C~ says:
    January 16th, 2011 6:57 pm

    Media is not falling down, it’s people like you who are ignorant
    sitting at the peak of some K2! Killings are going on in Karachi and more than 35 have been killed. Now curfew has been imposed in some areas, But not to speak of the media who just had one of their brilliant reporter targetted and killed, nobody, not even the bloggers here, have the guts to name the killers eventhough they definitely know who is killing whom??

    First make yourself courageous enough, Mr Najam, to name the killers and condemn them, as did Zulfiqar Mirza lately, before maligning the electronic media which alone is NOT responsible for exposing all the ills fully knowing that the hypocrite secularists do not have a heart to bear someone without losing his life exposing their ugly faces ! If you gave the guts share some responsibility with the media and let us know at large the real and bitter truth you’re knowingly suppressing like anyone else!

  32. Nihari says:
    January 16th, 2011 7:08 pm

    Samaa is the crappy channel who presented Mumtaz Qadri’s smiling interview after the murder of Salman taseer. Samaa and waqt tv are being penalized by pemra. What other high standards of journalism can you expect from such pieces of scum.

  33. ~C~ says:
    January 16th, 2011 7:09 pm

    @ Adil Najam

    Why didn’t you post this video which clearly states the demands of nurses???? Pls research and update yourself before
    spilling ink on others!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoBJijOUKO8&feature=related

  34. Khuram Khan says:
    January 16th, 2011 7:15 pm

    @C
    “nobody, not even the bloggers here, have the guts to name the killers eventhough they definitely know who is killing whom??”

    You seem to lack the guts to even name yourself.Do appreciate the good please.

  35. January 16th, 2011 7:18 pm

    Adil,

    I agree with you, that the report is not only shallow reporting but also share embarrassment. However I would also like to highlight why such content is aired in Pakistan.

    In the race for rating in the Pakistani media, the relevancy of news and the basic values and structure of a news report, a constant pressure comes from the owners of the channels for ratings from the news editorial. This in the absence of trained news managers and editors not only sensationalize the news and creates a lot of noise instead of information (on an individual level) that can be transformed into knowledge (on a societal level).

    That is why are one of the most informed nations with 30+ News Channels in Pakistan (out of 80 television broadcasters) and probably the least knowledgeable people knowing and appreciating the basic values of a society.

    We must question why there are no efforts on investments made by media houses on human resource, instead it is considered easier to poach on to others’ human resources by simply offering a lump-sum amount to a star of another channel.

    This has not only resulted in an increase of upto 25% in doing media business in Pakistan over the last one year but has also resulted in deterioration of basic values, morale of the real journalists in Pakistan.

    I fear that the media will be cluttered with more such reports in the coming days, if we do not realize the importance of basic values and how media is impacting the collective intelligence and psyche of the nation.

    AJ

  36. fuzair says:
    January 16th, 2011 8:05 pm

    As reporting its cr*p but come on Adil; that’s a fantastic line “apni baRti hoey toundon!”

  37. Jamal Din says:
    January 16th, 2011 8:54 pm

    ذرا سمندر پر بھی توجہ دیں

    وسعت اللہ خان

    بی بی سی اردو ڈاٹ کام، کراچی

    بھارت کی ساحلی پٹی ساڑھے سات ہزار کلومیٹر طویل ہے۔ اس میں سے چھبیس فیصد کو سمندر آہستہ آہستہ نگل رہا ہے۔ مشرقی ساحل پر اڑیسہ اور تامل ناڈو کے متعدد علاقوں میں گزشتہ سو برس کے دوران سمندر بارہ کلومیٹر تک اندر گھس چکا ہے۔جبکہ مغربی ریاست کیرالہ میں سمندر چھ میٹر سالانہ کے حساب سے زمین کو پیچھے دھکیل رہا ہے۔ ریاست گوا کے ایک سو پانچ کلومیٹر طویل ساحل میں سے دس فیصد کو سمندر چاٹ چاٹ کر اب گوا کے گورنر کی رہائش گاہ کے پچھواڑے تک پہنچ گیا ہے۔ اندازہ ہے کہ اگلے بیس برس میں یہاں کا سفید ریت والا وہ ساحل غائب ہوجائے گا جس کی کشش ہر سال پچیس لاکھ سیاحوں کو کھینچتی ہے۔

    پاکستان کی ساحلی پٹی ایک ہزار پچاس کلومیٹر طویل ہے۔ جس میں کراچی سے کچھ کے درمیان صوبہ سندھ کے دو اضلاع ٹھٹہ اور بدین بدترین سمندری غنڈہ گردی کا شکار ہیں۔ ہر سال سمندر لگ بھگ پچاس ہزار ایکڑ زمین کھا رہا ہے۔ ٹھٹہ کی ایک تحصیل کھارو چھان کا آدھا حصہ سمندر ہضم کرچکا ہے۔اس بحری جارحیت کی دو موٹی موٹی وجوہات بیان کی جاتی ہیں۔

    اول یہ کہ اس خطے میں موسمیاتی تبدیلیوں کے نتیجے میں بڑھتے ہوئے درجہ حرارت کے سبب سمندری سطح میں ایک اعشاریہ ایک ملی میٹر سالانہ کا اضافہ ہورہا ہے۔ شائد اسی لیے پاکستان دنیا کے ان دس ممالک کی فہرست میں شامل کردیا گیا ہے جنہیں موسمیاتی تبدیلیوں سے سب سے زیادہ خطرہ ہے۔ دوسری وجہ یہ بیان کی جاتی ہے کہ ٹھٹہ اور بدین دریائے سندھ کے ڈیلٹا پر آباد ہیں۔ یہ دنیا کا چھٹا بڑا دریائی ڈیلٹا ہے۔ یہاں تک پہنچتے پہنچتے دریا خشک ہوجاتا ہے۔ سمندر کی بدمعاشی سے بچنے کے لیے سالانہ دس ملین ایکڑ فٹ دریائی پانی اس ڈیلٹا سے گزرنا ضروری ہے۔ لیکن گزشتہ پچیس برس کے دوران یہاں سے اوسطاً سالانہ پونے ایک ملین ایکڑ فٹ پانی ہی گزر پارہا ہے۔چنانچہ سمندر اس کمزوری کا فائدہ اٹھا کر ڈیلٹا پر چڑھ دوڑا ہے۔
    اول یہ کہ اس خطے میں موسمیاتی تبدیلیوں کے نتیجے میں بڑھتے ہوئے درجہ حرارت کے سبب سمندری سطح میں ایک اعشاریہ ایک ملی میٹر سالانہ کا اضافہ ہورہا ہے۔ شائد اسی لیے پاکستان دنیا کے ان دس ممالک کی فہرست میں شامل کردیا گیا ہے جنہیں موسمیاتی تبدیلیوں سے سب سے زیادہ خطرہ ہے۔

    مگر اسلام آباد ہو کہ دلی کے پالیسی ساز، وہ کسی اور دنیا میں ہی مگن ہیں۔ انہیں احساس ہی نہیں کہ جس ایک سو پینتیس کلومیٹر لمبی اور بتیس کلومیٹر چوڑی کشمیر وادی کے لیے وہ پچھلے تریسٹھ برس سے ہر سطح پر ایک دوسرے کو نیچا دکھانے میں لگے ہوئے ہیں، اس کے برابر کا رقبہ اسی عرصے میں سمندر برد ہوچکا ہے۔اور کشمیر وادی کی آبادی سے چار گنا آبادی اس سمندر گردی کے سبب بھیک مانگنے کی سطح پر پہنچ گئی ہے۔

    چھہتر کلومیٹر طویل اور پانچ کلومیٹر چوڑے سیاچن گلیشیئر پر لگ بھگ چھ ہزار فوجی ایک دوسرے کی آنکھوں میں آنکھیں ڈال کر گزشتہ چھبیس برس سے کھڑے ہیں۔ ان تک پانچ روپے کی روٹی پہنچانے پر پچانوے روپے خرچ ہورہے ہیں۔ یہ مہم جویانہ عیاشی اس حقیقت کے باوجود جاری ہے کہ جس گلیشیئر کو حاصل کرنے کے لیے اب تک چار ہزار کے لگ بھگ فوجی سردی اور گولی کی غذا بن چکے ہیں وہ گلیشیئر بھی اگلے پچیس تیس برس میں شرم سے پانی پانی ہوکر غائب ہوجائے گا۔

    دونوں ممالک اپنی مٹی کا ایک ایک انچ مقدس سمجھتے ہیں۔ ہر صبح بھارت ماتا کی سوگند یا پاک سرزمین کی قسم کھاتے ہیں۔ اور سمندر ہے کہ ان سربہ گریبانوں کا پاجامہ کھینچے لیے جارہا ہے۔

  38. January 16th, 2011 9:07 pm

    Some comments from the ATP Facebook Page:

    - “absolute Buffoon”
    - “cheap!!!”
    - “This is how we have been ridiculing our women.”
    - “Shameless..”
    - “Very nicely written article. Pakistani media needs a lot of brain storming as it is getting more and more to play the role of king maker and opinion maker so suddenly and simultaneously. As a first step, there is no harm in providing some lessons on civic responsibility to its journalistic entourage.”

  39. Gardezi says:
    January 16th, 2011 9:12 pm

    @ ~C~ (I assume you work for Samaa?)
    Maybe you did not notice but the link you gave is FROM A DIFFERENT CHANNEL… in fact, its not just a different channel it is in a DIFFERENT LANGUAGE!
    But I am glad you gave that link because it shows once again how the difference between the Urdu and English press is now also between English and Urdu channels… Urdu channels are doing propaganda and throwing half worked at filth. The link you gave only proves that you CAN report this as a proper news with real facts. Why then do urdu channels throw out this stereotype cheap filth?

  40. Hermoon says:
    January 16th, 2011 9:40 pm

    The question is why did the ‘young’ nurses decide to take a walk on the streets of Lahore?
    There is no mention of any ‘demands’ or what the strange protest was all about.For the last few years,taking a ‘walk’ has become a fashion not as much as to press for demands or to highlight an issue but rather to gain media attention.
    Nursing in Pakistan is sadly and unfortunately never considered a ‘noble’ profession and then to take a walk accompanied by Punjab police was always asking for attention.
    Passersby couldn’t help but stop by to take a look.
    It is sad and regrettable and reflects at the state of our society and where we are all going.

  41. January 16th, 2011 9:57 pm

    Media interprets things in its own way. I have been noticing that it tries to produce thrill in nothing. Many times they don’t know or cover the real scenario !

  42. Ismat says:
    January 16th, 2011 10:37 pm

    @Hermoon Gill
    So, you are saying it is the nurses fault!
    I am sorry that is not acceptable and as sexist as the reporter. Other reports of the event clearly stated that the nurses were protesting the non-payment and reduction in salary. Why shouldn’t they! The question is why is this reporting reporting the “nazarey” rather than the issue. Just because they are young women and nurses and he has his own frustrated stereotypes of deal with!

  43. Viol-8-r says:
    January 16th, 2011 11:20 pm

    It is the bare & hard TRUTH. This is what you are going to reap now when you keep on sowing for the past 55+ years.

    Now Blame the Press, Media and every body else except yourself.

    Who is media ? it is you and me

    Now you feel it hurts, it is going to hurt even more, even going to hit where it hurts a lot.

    Everybody including you and me are all involved. It is me and you who let this culture get developed and until today when mirror on the wall shows the outcome, it is disgrace, how come?

    Feel it, absorb it and change it; not by writing few lines on internet, and hope that you did what you could do. Change yourself first, then around you then come out CLEAN and ask the community to change.

  44. Viol-8-r says:
    January 16th, 2011 11:26 pm

    PRESS is just a mere reflection of what you don’t want to see but it is there and the you need a JUSTIFICATION to BLAME somemone else and prove yourself INNOCENT.

    But my deal Pakistani fellows, don’t try put some fog on the mirror and deny the FACT.

    FACE it and CHANGE.

    Start from your HOME

    Don’t worry about the Global and who is going to be the Governer and what President said today.

    There 999 steps to fix until you reach step 999 and it will be fixed automatically.

  45. Viol-8-r says:
    January 16th, 2011 11:36 pm

    ATP , 4.6 Years of age
    5712 readers
    1777 follower
    72381 comments

    One Question and Only.

    What change it brought to the life and daily living of a poor and common citizen of Pakistan; who is living an unsecured ; far below the poverty level life every day. And there is NO HOPE at all any time soon in the next 5-10-15-20 years.

    Comment, Argue, Criticize, Argue, criticize everything and anything and hope that it will change by itself one day.

  46. HarOON says:
    January 16th, 2011 11:49 pm

    @Viol-8-r
    What amazing negativity.
    I guess you Indians take great pride in reigning negative. I have never figured out why you Indians are so keen on dropping in uninvited to anything Pakistani with you negative dropping.

    By the way, I assume from you last comment that you have brought great change and goodwill to the world. Congratulations!

    ATP, can you please block such comments that serve no purpose except venting the frustrations of losers and wannabes who have done nothing themselves and want to give talqeen to anyone who is actually doing something!

  47. razia says:
    January 16th, 2011 11:49 pm

    humaira, i had addressed my remarks to adil himself but since you interjected, let me tell you it is not the first or the second time my write up hasn’t been posted. Not only that many of my comments have been deleted because they were critical of the blog or United States policies in Pakistan.

    True, there may have been many posts on flood, but the floods are still wreaking havoc for lot of people. How many of the posts on floods were eyewitness accounts of one of the readers? Who has gone to remote areas to find out if the needs of the victims of floods are met? People are without food and blankets, sitting in the cold – temperatures barely above freezing- a few yards from their village because it is still under water. And how many accounts have been posted which show how eighteen year olds are changing the landscape of Pakistan?

    Let’s look at the posts on the front page: Uncle Urfi: A PTV Blockbuster; Growing Up Pakistani in Peking, …; Three Poems for Troubled Times:… Faiz Centenary: Tina Sings Faiz. Again; Rickshaw ho tou aisa ho.

    May be there is some life changing formulae in these posts, I find majority of the posts on this blog are of sentimental and feel good type where commentators feel nostalgic and rush to praise the autor. Some times it sounds more like a mutual admiration society than a serious blog.

  48. HarOON says:
    January 17th, 2011 12:03 am

    Never understand why ATP attracts all these wannabes who want ATP to “do more” and miraculously these know-alls know exactly what it should do! Don’t like the blog, go make your own and do what you want with it! Lots of people obviously like what ATP is doing and that is why it works and can actually construct a real social conversation raise real money for real efforts and raise awareness all round. What more do people want from a blog for God’s sake!
    This envy of other’s success is unbecoming.

  49. jawed says:
    January 17th, 2011 12:08 am

    This notion that journalists are just a ‘reflection’ of society is only partly correct. The media is partly that but has to be more than that. Majority of people in Pakistan who use internet and also in US spend lots of time viewing porn. Does that mean our media should start showing it? Lots of people use abusive language in their daily lives, everywhere. Does that mean that the media should use the same language? Part of being a mirror to society is to show what is wrong and right. If this same report had talked about how leering behavior is bad, said a single word against it, it may have been worthwhile. Right now its just leering itself. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

  50. ShahidnUSA says:
    January 17th, 2011 1:24 am

    I appreciate that most of the comments are constructive (highlighting the shortcomings) and not suggesting anything that looks a revenge.

    I love theatric performances, (Yeah!) they are very effective, BUT!

    there is a thin line between fun and sending a wrong message.
    A critic dose can be harsh at times depending on the level of the offense is fine to me if it is correctional and rehabilitating without causing too much humiliation.

    Introspection, self reforming and then revisitation , you are the best!

  51. Vicky says:
    January 17th, 2011 1:40 am

    Hats off to ATP for highlighting this issue. It is difficult being woman in Pakistan and more when you are a middle or lower class younger woman in the work force. The attitude of Samaa to make these young women a subject of ridicule and disgrace is itself disgraceful.

  52. Pakistani says:
    January 17th, 2011 1:49 am

    Here is the contact information for PERMA (http://bit.ly/h7caai) and SAMAA (http://bit.ly/fQfxeX) for anyone who wishes to complain about this. I am. (Thanks to Mosharraf Zaidi’s twitterfeed for this).

  53. Azra says:
    January 17th, 2011 2:26 am

    The chuvinistic and stereotype attitude of this reporter is “these women work and they are out on the road protesting so it must be OK to ridicule and disgrace them.” This not an unusual attitude amongst Pakistani men (look at how they leer at any woman in public) but to see a whole news report structured around this attitude and celebrating and laughing at it as if this is a joke just shows what depths the media has fallen to.

    P.S. By the way, I have always known Dr. Najam’s sense of fairness and justice on women rights issues, but am very glad to see so many other males who “get it.” That is a good sign for Pakistan.

  54. January 17th, 2011 2:32 am

    I came across this shocking video a few days back too and was having trouble finding it funny as my friends laughed about it. I felt the same, about how most of the commentary sounded fabricated and the actual issue (Why are they protesting?!) was ignored. Sigh.

    I spoke at a seminar in 2009 at Ali Auditorium, Lahore, on the Psychological Effects of Electronic Media in Pakistan. I pointed out how people were becoming desensitized to violence and sensationalized news which was leading to ‘better’ news items coming out every day, showing more violence and creating more sensation.

    The attendees included people from a few major news channels. The direct response from them? “It’s a huge business, running a news channel. Sensationalized news or “Karbala Reporting” as many good journalists call it, sells. News channels wouldn’t be showing such stuff on TV if people didn’t want to watch it. It might be unethical but it’s lucrative – that’s all a businessman should focus on.”

    I haven’t watched a Pakistani channel since then. I turn to the interwebz for my daily dose of news, thank you.

  55. Kafir Per Pakistani Law says:
    January 17th, 2011 3:17 am

    THIS IS PAKISTAN AND ITS CITIZENS.

    We very easily differentiate between a Muslim and who is Kafir.

    But we can’t differentiate between what is funny and what is disgusting!

  56. Kafir Per Pakistani Law says:
    January 17th, 2011 3:21 am

    If Pakistani nurses were earning as much as nurses in USA, (in terms of income relative to other professions), Pakistani males would be kissing their feet and bending over backwards with their proposals.

  57. Gardezi says:
    January 17th, 2011 3:54 am

    I am sending an email of protest to PERMA (http://bit.ly/h7caai). I hope others will too.

  58. Lafanga says:
    January 17th, 2011 4:01 am

    The only ‘lanfangabaazi’ in this video is by the Samaa reporter. The police are actually doing their duty. The cars are stopped because where else would they go. People are watching because that is natural and they would watch even if it was a bunch of crazy mullahs in protest. Its Samaa who should be ashamed of this childish, stereotype, sexist report.

  59. January 17th, 2011 4:30 am

    i dont know what to say about it. all i can say is that i agree with every thing that you have said. this not so newly free media has yet to learn so many thing. the issue with the media is the same that the issue our whole nation is facing. i have said that many times in my blog posts too and i will have no shame in saying that again that we have destroyed preferences as a nation we do not know what should be preferred on exactly which thing or factor and in the result we get to see such stupid idiotic things on the media.

  60. Durrani says:
    January 17th, 2011 10:54 am

    The quality of those who report on TV is even more pathetic than those who are so called ‘anchors.’ What I am always aghast is how all of them seem to express opinions rather than facts. And every report ends with what government “should do”. Everyone seems to be an advisor to govt. And if govt is to do everything, then what are WE to do!

  61. Hermoon says:
    January 17th, 2011 11:16 am

    @Lafanga
    Out of 60 odd comments so far,I would rank yours as the best.

  62. nusrat says:
    January 17th, 2011 11:26 am

    razia – such modesty is unbecoming in pakistan. when prof.najam did not post your essay even though you submitted it twice, you should have bribed a mullah and obtained a fatwa against him, compelling him to publish or risk being declared a kuffar. and we all know the punishment for kuffars in pakistan.

    better yet, razia, why not teach him a lesson by hitting him where it really hurts — start your own blog, which will undoubtedly be of a very high standard. very soon, all ATP visitors, along with those wise ass commenters will migrate to your blog. soon there after, when prof. najam submits his “write up” to you, you can thrown it on back to his face, virtually of course.

    ps . if either doesn’t suit your needs, may i suggest contacting the “young lawyers association” of islamabad. i have heard that they are always willing to help the disenfranchised, pro bono.

  63. Yahya says:
    January 17th, 2011 12:17 pm

    I think any woman who works in Pakistan in the service sector, specially low paying jobs is a woman of exceptional courage and I salute them all for putting up with the attitude of the men around them.

  64. Qadir says:
    January 17th, 2011 12:34 pm

    So glad you write this and wrote this so strongly.
    I had also seen the video and felt angry at it. But I thought I was the only one. So happy to see that most people are actually sane and not like the idiotic reporter who made this video.

  65. razia says:
    January 17th, 2011 6:33 pm

    oh, brilliant, talented, insightful and patriotic women of pakistan rush to defend ‘poor prof najam’ from this evil ignoramus wench. pakistan is in good hands, indeed!

  66. SAM says:
    January 17th, 2011 9:29 pm

    looks like when these channels dont find appropriate news to broadcast on they just want anything crapy who could catch the viewers a bit on the channel to atleast watch at anything which doesnt make any sense.few years back i was watching tv at very fine evening n i got stucked on geo channel on which they were broadcasting a news abt “ki ajj lahore ka mausam acha hai tu loog garam garam pakoray kha rahay hain …lolzzz..they broadcast any crap anytime by which they can stick the viewers on tv.no matter whatever senseless and clueless thing they are showing.

  67. nusrat says:
    January 17th, 2011 10:07 pm

    razia – that you really believe because you submitted your “write up” on more than one occasion is reason enough for it to be published on ATP is the reason i commented. such arrogance…!!

  68. Wadood says:
    January 17th, 2011 10:20 pm

    I am constantly amazed at the type of things that get on air in the name of news. the anchors are but but these reporters are worse on every channel. Totally nonsensical stories without any sir-pair and with opinion and bhoonda mazaq rolled in. It seems there is no editorial process at all on these channels and whatever anyone produces they just put up without any quality control and review of it. This is just one example, but it happens all the time and every day.

  69. Rehan says:
    January 17th, 2011 11:19 pm

    i think they are all too much impressed by Hum Sab Umeed Sau Hain and want humor on every serious or non serious issues.

  70. January 17th, 2011 11:49 pm

    Mr Najam I can understand your concern over such trivia being telecast on TV.

    I think the pressure on reporters to come up with special stories may be the reason. The sexual frustration among males in sub-continent, more a problem in Pakistan, leads to ogling which can be reported and it shows that the society is so starved that men salivate at every woman.

  71. ShahidnUSA says:
    January 18th, 2011 2:12 am

    To make a fair assessment, I had to visit http://live.samaa.tv/
    and I am unhesitatingly stating that no violation and abuse of power was noticed.

    When next time a reporter or a disciplined army personal had to rush to report or control a particular scene would hopefully perform responsibly and less violently respectively.

  72. Ch. Aslam says:
    January 18th, 2011 3:01 am

    Its not just this one, the media seems to cross the line all the time. The line between humor and vulgarity, the line between news and opinion, even the line between fact and fiction. I hope the media will police itself on this and get better reporters or train them better. Otherwise the gains of a fee media will all be lost.

  73. Gul says:
    January 18th, 2011 3:43 am

    I could not find an email address on the Samaa site to send a complaint to. Does anyone know?

  74. Mike says:
    January 18th, 2011 8:29 am

    I did not understand the language, however I found nurses very bold and very attractive!

    Relax, don’t be too prude, it is just a stupid and sophomoric video. There worst thing happening every day in Pakistan.

  75. Ayesha says:
    January 18th, 2011 10:48 am

    Absolutely disgraceful.
    Samaa TV news and current affairs heads should be sent for training in basic ethics and journalism before all of the reporters, cameramen, sub editors and NLEs are given compulsory training as well.

  76. January 18th, 2011 12:29 pm

    Some comments from the ATP Facebook Page:

    - “Agreed. The ‘journalism’ is disgraceful and shameful !”
    - “reating women as eye candy….this is something you don’t expect from mainstream media and journalists. Very shameful! Instead of focusing on the nurses grievances and reason for their march, they just couldn’t get over the fact that they were young women walking on the roads and how men were gawking at them,”
    - “Yes it is :(”
    - “Very bad… not journalism but” yellow electronic journalism..”
    - “on the other hand , reporter tries 2 locate the interest of our police that they can enjoy walking if there r young women on streets …its doesn’t matter wot their demand is ? to hell wid all that”

  77. Omer says:
    January 19th, 2011 1:14 am

    I totally agree, all that is required is some basic decency.

    The aim of a news channel is to inform the people, after watching the video I couldn’t tell what the rally/march was for?

  78. Kaliwal says:
    January 20th, 2011 1:01 am

    Guys, Media is Media, it can not be 100% correct or rational…….it’s same in India, in West too and everywhere. Let’s not forget when there was no media at all, just the PTV and the Jang and few more Newspapers………I hate to remember the era where I had to wait 2 days to get a paper where I had no choice but to believe in what ever was reported…..without having any chance to compare to what otheres are saying, mostly it was all government controlled…….Now we have a huge Media presence and to be honest it’s killing the bad guys, for most part…….ask a Politician and he will tell you what effect our media has on them…….it is awakening us, this report however disgraceful is does not represent the whole media, these are minor failures on the part of media, look at the bigger picture…….everybody is at least now scared of doing anything because the Media is going to pick up on it…….let us keep this KingKong free of leash………and plan to leash it when the time is right so that sanity can previal……..!!!

  79. Nasir Aziz says:
    January 22nd, 2011 2:24 am

    Wait a minute? We are worried about this in the media? Really? I suppose everything else is hunky dory in Pakistan that this report has to fancy our attention.

    Let the media be media. My only concern with media is when they so blatantly report issues in a way that hurt our national security and image. That’s where they need to be careful and tread carefully at least. Our media is being monitored around the world, and matters of such nature need to be mature and responsible in nature.

    All things considered, there is no harm to get a few laughs once in a while, Pakistanis can definitely use that. Distasteful or not, this report was not worth talking about, especially when the author says “I don’t want you to see this”. Why not? Isn’t that sort of oxymoron?

  80. Rasheed says:
    January 22nd, 2011 5:34 am

    Sorry for sounding different, but *I* think that the reporter did a fairly good job in reflecting the TRUTH of today’s Pakistani society, which is probably quite different from the way in which Maulvi Adil Najm left a long time ago!

    There’s something called satire, which, in case you didn’t figure, I, too, am using in this comment, to hopefully avoid its deletion! Throughout the “report”, the reporter is being sarcastic — ok, maybe getting carried away every now and then — but remains focussed on the vanity of our menfolk, who seldom see so many young females on the street. That includes the ones entrusted with the task of keeping the society straight. He shows these officers intoxicated with the sights like troubled teenagers. The report is NOT about the nurses’ protest or demands, which obviously deserves extensive coverage on its own. It’s about how our society looks like today, mainly, but not exclusively, the condition of our men — notice that I avoided being sexist (against men), because you can also clearly see some of the “ladies” flirting with the policemen shown for 12+ seconds: 0:29-0:42.

    But your visceral criticism of the reporter in this story is almost indicative, if not revealing, of some axe one might have to grind. You are better than that, Adil. Let’s be consistent here — remember you’re the apostle who preaches with great emphasis ………….. tolerance? Let’s tolerate even the reports that we’re glad we didn’t file :)

    BTW, “Nusrat”, LOL about your response to “Razia” about starting her own blog :)

  81. Hassan says:
    January 27th, 2011 12:17 am

    Policemen were with this rally to protect them and to maintain law and order and if they were acting friendly whats wrong with it…

  82. Ruszn Baloch says:
    January 27th, 2011 7:32 am

    Talking about responsible rather irreponsible journalism check this news item that was on all Pakistani media outlets and has been forwarded to me by a few friends of mine as well. http://ejang.jang.com.pk/1-24-2011/Karachi/pic.asp?picname=1026.gif
    and
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFZPKZYS14w
    Its about this so called eminent Pakistani scientist , pride of Pakistan and distinguished professor Dr. Aurangzeb Rafi. This guy is a complete fake. A brief search on the web took me to his website. You can check his website and his CV on http://siraurangzeb.org/cv.php . I checked Google Scholar for any of his work. He does not have any research papers published in any journals. He was never associated with any of the universities that he has mentioned on his website and all that stuff in that press release by an online PR website does not make any sense scientifically. There are no publications on his so called “hecto disciplinary modeling” which literary means “100 disciplinary modeling” in the literature. I am surprised how irresponsible Pakistani media is and is ready to declare a cheat pride of Pakistan. What part of their reporting should we believe?

  83. Tamashbeen says:
    January 27th, 2011 8:50 am

    @Ruszn Baloch.
    Yes this man Aurangzeb Hafi or Rafi is a huge fraud and liar. Can’t understand why Express Tribune still has this on. The people who have supposedly given this ‘Award’ are actually a Catholic religious order and they have publicly denied any such award and said that this is a fraud.

    I have also commented on this in detail and more evidence of this Fraud’s stupidity, here (in comments section):
    http://pakistaniat.com/2006/11/22/shame-czar/

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